2006/07 Jjgettis - FKK Again!

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By Jjgettis on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:02 am:  Edit

FKK Again!

Last year I reported in “Completing the Grand Slam of Mongering: FKKs” about my first visits to these brothels-cum-nudist colonies. Late June, I had an opportunity to again transit through Frankfurt on some European business. On my prior visits I had some frankly poor sessions and this time I improved my selections. Although this is an extraordinary way to monger, I find these venues and somehow girls lacking when compared to traditional 3rd world action. Ignoring the high associated costs of lodging, meals and transportation in a Euro currency country, 50 Euro is a terrific bargain. However I had much better time with some of the higher cost 1 hour bookings with a escorts in London (described in “London Calling.“ to be filed shortly).

Summary of the Weekend:

I finished some business on a Friday afternoon, and from my downtown hotel I took public transportation to FKK-Palace which is located close in to town. Palace remains my favorite, and the U-Bahn subway proved a very easy way to get to and from the Palace.

On Saturday I rented a vehicle and drove to the outlying town of Nidderau to visit a smaller FKK and new place for me -- Malibu. I liked this place but for new visitors to FKKs I would think you should stick with the Frankfurt Big Three: Palace, World and Oase. From Malibu and Nidderau I intended to drive to World but found myself at Oase so that is where I finished up Saturday. On Sunday I flew on to business in Madrid. I had a total of six sessions spread over Friday night and Saturday through early evening.

More on How to get to the clubs:

This is always a challenge but it seems to work out well in the end. With this being my 2nd time it still wasn’t easy but the anxiety of the first foray was gone and it really wasn’t too bad.

Both the U7 and U6 Schnellbahns or subways run to a stop adjacent to Palace, so I took those and avoided a rent car or a cab ride of shame. (Interestingly I saw a cab billboard for Palace on a taxi in Frankfurt.) Your hotel can give you a downtown street map with a subway and train map of the town, but I caught the subway at Alte Oper, a very easy to find stop downtown. You need to catch the train to Industriehof/Neue Borse which means you want the trains marked with their final destinations of Hausen or Prahnheim or Heerstrasse. I bought a short (“kurz”) ticket from a machine which costs only 1.35 Euro. Here is a link to the map:

www.rmv.de/coremedia/generator/Bilder/0Abbildungen/PlaeneNetzplaene/PLA__Schnellbahnplan2006_3Dgr,property=image.gif

Industriehof is the first stop after the subway comes out of the ground and runs at street level. When you get out and after the train pulls away if you look on the left side of the track (assuming you are facing in the outbound direction) you will see Koinigstrasse painted on a 3 or 4 story white building. Cross the tracks and street at the pedestrian crossing. The building numbers will be visible. Make a right as you walk up and follow the street around a U curve and you will see #23 Palace on your left. Less than a tenth of a mile walk along Koinigstrasse.

For Malibu, I downloaded a map on their website:

http://www.fkk-malibu.de/de/anfahrt

I also, thankfully, download a map from mapquest which was set to show surrounding villages. I rented a car at the train station and it seems that you really need to rent at the airport to be able to get a nav system, but I was confident on my second trip. Leaving Frankfurt and heading for the autobahn towards Hannau which you exit to get to Nidderau, I seemed to end up following secondary roads as the yellow signs I chose to follow directed me that way. Pretty soon I was in Hannau but I had trouble finding a Highway 45 sign and just sort of drove in that general direction. The map with the villages really helped at this point since lacking signs that said, Nidderau, I just bounced around like a pinball clicking off one town and following signs that seemed to be advancing me until I finally found a sign for Nidderau. I drove in town. I then found that the detailed town map from the Malibu site was pretty vague. I had the street name though and I could have stopped and asked but that isn’t how I play the game. Finally seeing that the dotted lines on the fkk map where supposed to be rail lines I found that upon going under the rail line at the (northeast?)edge of town the first left was Seimensstrasse which leads to an industrial park. Now after I’m back and looking at the close in mapquest map I can see this clearly. I had some trouble spotting Malibu but it is directly across the street from the Opel facility (your eye goes to the yellow Opel sign and causes you to miss Malibu.)

I left Nidderau and drove in the general direction of the A5 hopping to head up to World. However I came to a village with a sign pointing to Burgholzhaussen which is next to Oase so I adjusted my target. From Burgholzhausen you just follow the sign to Ober-Erlenbacher and Oase is on the right hand side of the street. The process is the reverse from Ober-Erlenbacher but I found this much easier to see the signs and find the place.

My takes on each of the clubs/reports on sessions.

Palace remains my favorite club. I have not really sampled World beyond a slow Sunday afternoon so I can’t fully rate this place but I think I am an exception in rating Palace above Oase, preferring the ambiance and more limited but still stellar selection of Palace to the crowded babe filled Oase.

Palace on a Friday afternoon had maybe 12-15 girls when I arrived around 5. The count grew to 20 or so when the evening commenced. I found, when I arrived that there were 4 girls that I would rate as at least 8s, 4 as 7s, and 4 as flawed to be at the 6 level. I am the type of guy (which I think most of us are) that is really only interested in nailing the top level of lookers.

People should be cautioned that Palace appears to be the only club where most of the women wear scarves or some sort of wrap around their pussies. I don’t find this a problem, but the other clubs are pretty much true nudist, for the girls.

My first selection was a German girl from Koln, Laura. Source of attraction: (SOA) Stellar good looks/would be first German girl for me to nail in an FKK. I would probably give her a 9. Tall, say 5’8”, thin and blonde she is most easily recognized from the nickname “Joker” which is inked on the diagonal across her left side. I had her sit with me on a couch and we spent ten minutes kissing and stroking and in general making sure that she understood the pace I wanted. In the room there was lots of slow dfk which I like and then a bbbj. She moved up the tempo during that but it was okay. I also 69’d a little. Quickly we began with her on top and moved though a variety of positions. Very nice. I wanted to upgrade for the cim finish (I love that the 50 Euro upcharge is stated up front by the receptionist) and so I pulled out and took off the rain coat. However I should have told her that is what I wanted because she pulled away from the bbbj at the moment of truth and finished me with a hj. I was told later to specifically sign on to the upcharge if that is what I want. Still a very nice session. I like the part of the FKK session where you take a beautiful 1st world beauty like this 9 and walk her to your money locker and extract 50 Euro ($65) and pay it to her for 30 minutes of gfe sex and she says, “Thank you.”

About an hour or so later I was looking for a second selection. There was another German girl, very thin with mosquito bump tiddies. I liked her a lot and would have picked her but she wasn’t around. I settled with a Slovkian bruenette. SOA: Petite, cute, pig tails, impish smile and big firm breasts on a small frame. Despite my warm ups before going to the room she seemed to be a rusher and when I finished after 15 minutes she insisted we leave rather than give me a brief massage to fill out the 30 minutes. This was a disappointment.

I cut the evening off at two sessions.

The next day I drove, as described above to Malibu. I had picked this place based upon wanting something different and some low key recommendations on the fkk sections of 21orover.com.

Indeed Malibu was different. The woman at the front obviously ranked higher than receptionist. She told me that because it was summer she only had 5 girls although some more would be coming in though the afternoon. I asked if I could see the girls and she brought out 4 women that were generally in the 7 range. I like the looks of two of them and because admission was only 50 Euros, included 3 beers, and I had driven a piece to get there; I went in.

The club is smaller, with the main/bar room (a more home sized room rather than the commercial space of Oase, World or Palace) showing porno on flat screens as in World. There is a separate small den with a big screen showing a movie channel, which was an interesting way to pass time. Also an outdoor patio with a hot tub, Barbeque pit and lounge chairs.

I cashed in the coupon for a beer and was surprised to find that you get a real bottled beer and a pilsner glass. At World, my recollection is you get a smallish glass of draft.

I settled on Betty, a dark haired Pole. She was a bigger girl than the petite type I like but an 8 and well put together. She later told me she was 29, and that showed in her breasts which were a hung a little low as compared to the perky ones of youth. There sure ain’t no secrets in an FKK! SOA: Probably only 8 candidate there, she seemed sweet on the couch. We sat on the couch and kissed and petted for a while. I really like that. Malibu has rooms on the ground floor and down in a basement as well. She took me to a room with a hot tub downstairs. Very nice session, lots of dfk, etc. I elected to finish cim this time and told her. She verified I would be charged 50 Euro for this and proceeded to perform. After a clean up she had me turn over and massaged me until the session was up. The clothes lockers with my money was on the same floor and she waited there while I paid her 100 Euro.

One thing I liked about Malibu was the very low key nature of the place. There were maybe 4 guys and 5 girls there. I had brought in a paperback and I took it outside and drank two beers and read during the recovery period, which is a better option for passing time than what is available in other clubs.

I was told most of the girls were Poles. There was a Brazilian girl, big tiddies for a Braselera, 7+ body but a 6- face. Even so I just refuse to do a Brazilian outside of their home country. I liked a very thin small breasted blonde Pole on looks, say 7+ but she seemed more business like than the others so I passed. I ended up with a Bulgarian, dyed blonde, a straight 7. SOA: Process of elimination and limited selection moved her to the front of the line. Not nearly as nice a session as Betty, nothing to remember it, but of course it included dfk and all the standards.

My beer coupons were out and although I could buy beers at reasonable prices, 3 beers was probably enough to still be able to drive and it was now raining ruining the outside lounging. I decided to leave and drive in the direction of the A5 which if I head north would bring me to World.

When I walked outside to get into my car, I saw a car pull up with a girl and her boyfriend, just like you sometimes see outside a strip club in the US. I waited just to see if she was doable. I would put her as a 7, and she would have made my short list at this club. I left though.

As I said, I fell into Oase, and so decided to stay there.

Oase is just wall to wall women. Whereas Palace started with 15 and worked their way up to maybe low twenties. My count of Oase around 7 on Saturday was 45 or so. There must have been another 10 in session while I counted making a count of 55-60? The appeal is obvious. However, with maybe 40 guys and a club layout with a severe choke point or two I hate the crowds. In Palace you can find a couch at all times and there are several lay-down couch areas Oase will likely have you sitting on a bar stool but certainly not laying down. I also didn’t find an over abundance of top tier women. Most of them are 7s for sure but the certain 8s and above maybe are 8-10. Compared to Palace’s 4-5 girls rated the same.

I enjoyed Oase’s Saturday grilled sausages as the best food I had. Probably you would have to sample the other clubs grills. Because it was still raining, I didn’t get to enjoy Oase’s substantial outdoor area. Palace lacks an outdoor area and maybe even a grill? The food is at best passable in any case.

My first selection was a black girl from Ghana. I hadn’t intended to go that way, but somehow she seemed to appeal. I had spent a lot of time talking to the 4 girls that were on my short list.. I almost was ready to pick a Czech brunette since she had something many of the girls lacked: a slim wasp waist, but I didn’t like her crooked teeth. SOA: Some how during my third time talking with Miss Ghana there was something about her smile and gentle stroke of my towel wrapped unit that got to me.

The Ghana girl turned out to be a disappointment. Dflk was good but she had too many nos for me to enjoy the session. I have no problem with a girl not wanting to do something specialized but she should decline politiety or say, I prefer to do x instead. We were in doggie and I asked Miss Ghana to lay on down for some lazy dog, but she sharply said no. Because I was doing a third session on top of two fairly recently I pulled out and knew that she needed to give me better stimulus. I asked if I could blast on her breasts and again with the no. I asked about cim and still no. Sigh. This was my 4th disappointing session here out of 4.

More hang around time spent eating and seated in the Porno Kino. On the front row a couple went at it. Again I think the hang around time in Oase is the worst. I rushed it to another session just to beat the boredom. I did meet a German girl that came up to me but she was a thick older woman that didn’t appeal to me. I grabbed a Romanian honey with blondish hair, thin pretty face. It is hard to test out the couch areas, but I did get her in the corner and make sure she kissed. SOA: lets grab something just to get going. She was alright but sort of deflated in room.

Four times in a day is likely it for me. Maybe I could have squeezed out a fifth session later but I didn’t want to wait around and I didn’t want to drive home in the dark either. It was just getting towards dusk when I got to the autobahn and headed back to downtown.

Summary:

Six sessions but I only had two good ones. About the same ratio as the last time I was in Germany. I think the sessions are just too scripted by the girls and the 30 minute time frame is too short. Contrast this to a 40 minute Terma session -- it is rare the girl doesn’t go all out and she has to be called for the fun to end. How many of us have even come twice in one 40 minute period inside the cabine?

On the girls looks in FKKS, I think that the bigger clubs have a large number of rejects. Square asses, funky tits, etc. Puts them in a 6 category and because there are nude 7s and 8s walking around you ignore them. Amazingly I rarely found what I would rate as my top level girls as unavailable due to demand.

The positives are worth a trip for sure, and probably even a second. I am sure that at some time I will visit again, most likely I will try the Northern clubs around Dusseldorf:. The 50 Euro session, good looking 1st and 2nd world women and picking from a 20+ woman nude line up. You have to try.

My final club ranking after two trips is:

Palace: I like the lay out and the non crowded nature of the club. I’ve had more great sessions here and I think there are plenty of good looking women.

Malibu: A niche club. Like the beer and the laid back attitude. Obviously you could get there and find 4 sub par girls, but it is worth a visit in the midst of the FKK trip.

Oase: Must see club due to the huge canvas of women. Don’t like the crowds and until I have a top tier session here I have to remain convinced that the club and the crowds make the performance level pure mechanics.

World: Not rated based upon small sample size. Nice facilities, long way from town.

That’s it. - jjgettis

By Yujin on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 04:26 pm:  Edit

jjgettis,

Thanks for the report! I've had FKK on my "to-do" list for the past five years. Unless a disaster happens, I intend to check the FKKs off my list in 2007.

Again, thanks for getting me motivated!

Yujin

By Copabrasil1 on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 06:39 pm:  Edit

thanks for the informative report.

CB

By El_apodo on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 06:51 am:  Edit

Nice report. FKKs are on my to-do list. I just need to make a whole lot more money!

EA

By Downandup on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 04:57 pm:  Edit

Jjgettis,

Thanks for the posting, Today I booked a trip in November to go to my brothers wedding and after that make a detour back to the us via Frankfort to try out at least one FKK.

By Jjgettis on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 01:42 pm:  Edit

Thanks for the kudos. This report needs to be read in conjunction with my post from the prior year and Tijunga's to get a fuller over view. In my last report I said that everybody should visit the big four venues of mongering: Rio, Thailand, Phillipines, and the FKK Scene. Unfortunately the FKK scene means you have to travel to Germany which is very expensive, but the FKK charges themselves are in line with visits to Termas in Rio. Having said all of that, I think I've outlined my own problems with FKKs -- a terma or a LOS girl will leave you much more satisfied. None the less picking from 1st (and 2nd) World nude girls and getting full range sex is unique and worth doing atleast once.

By Earthy on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 11:09 am:  Edit

I love the internet.
Check out these websites>>>
the Palace: http://www.the-palace.de
Oase: http://fkk-oase.de/Girls
FKK Club Mambo (formerly Malibu): http://www.facebook.com/pages/FKK-Mambo/166958406683085

By Laguy on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 12:22 pm:  Edit

Do the girls featured in the Palace video (on their website) actually work there, or are they better-looking professional models designed to entice us to visit? Related to this, if they do work there, are they typical of what you find there, or the cream of the crop?

They do look pretty damn good.


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