This became a recurring joke on my first trip to Rio; I decided to use Don’s services to optimize my 11 day stay. I had done all the research, read trip reports, etc. and probably could have done all right on my own. After reading some recent reports on Don and what he could provide, I decided to utilize his expertise. It was the right decision, I derived far more value than the cost incurred. On to the joke, Don knows the girls, the establishments and the mongers, so if anything goes awry he is the focal point. The problem, regardless of who caused it, becomes Don’s fault and thankfully he is there to smooth it over. I would jokingly blame him for several of my situations with the girls, knowing full well he merely provided the opportunity, I really created the situation. Believe me the situations I found myself in would be the envy of most males on this planet. More on this later.

A little background on myself, I am a 47 year old accountant from Southern California. I had been doing the TJ, Mexico scene for the last three years. I learned how to do TJ from the Brockton O’Toole document and the old Redsnake board. I have never really had a favorite and rarely do a repeat, probably done a 100+ different girls down there. This did not prepare me for the intensity of the emotional allure of the garotas. I have what I call the “Inner Dog” one of reasons I have been utterly unsuccessful at an exclusive relationship with a woman. The “Inner Dog” doesn’t want an emotional connection, just lust and and hot ass sex. One night I had a conversation with BluesTraveller about how I did not need to observe the 3X rule with the garotas, the “Inner Dog” was strong enough to combat their allure. I should have listened to his sage advice. The “Inner Dog” took some damage in Rio.

The timing of my trip and being with Don afforded the opportunity to meet numerous mongers. It was great meeting and hanging out with Hemp, Carolinaboy and friend(wink), GCL, Layne87, UWphoto, DonGringo, BluesTraveller, Sandman, Mitchc, Dood, Bwana Dik and a couple of others whom I did not know their handles and will not mention names.

The Girls. I am going to give my experiences, impressions and thoughts, but not details as to each garota. Sorry, but I think there is so much variation involved it is not of value. In fact, I did several girls noted in Hombrecito’s report and as stated YMMV. I did 27 sessions. I did not have one session I would call bad, some were better than others. BJ in every one, only two covered and two went to completion and one had me blow my load on her face. I had my balls licked, stroked and nibbled on in a multitude of ways. Anal by several, but then again it really is not my thing and I never asked. The only girls, two, that did not allow DATY were non terma garotas. It’s truly amazing the sexual skill level of these girls, especially given their ages ranged from 19 to the oldest at 25. I had some great kissers and once again the only girls, three, that did not allow were non terma girls. I did girls that looked like cheerleaders; I did girls that fit more of the Brazilian ideal (bigger butts). There are all types and I am sure something to fit your taste, many, many beautiful girls. I had my best experiences with the terma girls, both in the terma and in outside sessions. As I alluded to earlier, I ended up with two girls that went beyond the typical client relationship, if I believe what they told me and how our sessions changed. I am easy to fool and I believe that all women can be great actresses. But, what 47 year old male wouldn’t like to believe he is desired by a beautiful 20 year old? One shed tears as we said good bye and both gave me the ability to continue correspondence. Like I said I really don’t know. Beautiful, intelligent women are dangerous. Regardless to what happens, a couple of pieces of my heart will have been left in Rio, and that is Don’s fault damn it.

The Establishments.
The termas I went to were L’uomo, 4x4 and Monte Carlo.
L’uomo Terma. Located in Copacabana, this was my favorite place and had the girls I thought the most attractive. It is smaller, but I thought the best facilities I experienced. I ended up doing 4 different girls out of here and there were at least another 4 I would have done, actually probably more like 8. At any particular time, there are around 20 girls in the boite.
Monte Carlo Terma. Also located in Copacabana. At first I was not impressed, but the talent changed as time went on. More big butt girls, but there are some stunners in the place. I found one to do both times I was there.
4x4 Terma. Located Downtown(Centro). This place would be hard to find, if you did not know where you are going. Thanks to Don, after several trips with him, I was able to find it on my own. The problem is the taxis just can’t get close, it only accessible by walking several blocks. It opens up at 2pm and is bigger than the other two termas noted above. By 5pm there are ton of girls and some real stunners. This place is a great deal for an hour suite before 5, at the current exchange rate, less than US$50 and I always had at least 2 beers included in that price.

Lido Bars
Don Juan. Damn, this place was scary. I would not have ventured into this place except for Don being there. I think BJ’s were available for R$20 in the back, not for this boy. This place does give you a real appreciation for the termas.
Baccarat. There actually were a couple of decent girls and some very scary girls. BJ’s went for R$60 in the back area, which is fully accessible for your viewing pleasure. You can cheer your buddy on if you need. Once again not appealing to me, but that did not stop one of our group. Saw a lesbian sex show while there, carpet munching and dildos included.
Pussycats. Well we are moving up in the talent level. Some nice topless dancers. I ended hooking up with a girl Don knew and left the group. She was pretty and had a smoking body, just not as fun as the terma girls I had been doing. You have to watch what you drink in all of these places i.e.Lido Bars, they will try and take advantage of gringos. Another advantage of having Don along is that he makes sure this does not happen.
Franks. This place had live entertainment, including a singing stripper, lesbian show and a male female sex show. Some talent in this place. I ended up going home with a girl from this place. She had a great set of tits and was very tight, but once again did not come up to the level of the terma girls I had done.
La Ciccolina. Drinks are getting more expensive as we go down this list. Good talent in this place, but I was pretty much done, as far as sex, the one time I went into this place. Can’t remember if there is a barfine or not. There is a lot better information on this place elsewhere on this website.
Bar Barella. Went in here the same night as La Cic. There was considerable talent that night. But it will probably cost you. A JackD and coke was R$50 and I believe there is a R$50 barfine. I was just not really looking.

With the Lido bars YMMV, as I talked to some others who had pulled out some outstanding sessions and thought it was well worth the money they spent.

HELP.
I only went in here one night and did not see anything that appealed to me. Others reported the talent picked up as the week went on and that they had some outstanding sessions. I did pull a girl from Meia Pataca and from the Onda Terrace out in front of HELP. The girl from Meia Pataca ended up a little too pro, no kissing etc.. Pretty much the same for the Terrace girl. I talked to another monger who pulled a real sweetheart, who then did not charge him, out in front of HELP. So as always your mileage may vary.

Food
Food and beverages are just so cheap. One night GCL and I went to a Rodozio(can’t remember the name) on AV Copacabana. All you could eat, bottle of wine and a couple of bottles of water each. Food was great and it ended up costing us a grand total US$10, not each, total. I would definitely recommend Marius for seafood, right on the beach in Copa. Another all you can eat place, excellent mussels, stuffed crab, grilled shrimp and lobster. Totally stuffed myself, including three lobster tails for less than US$16. Up in Ipanema there is a place Don has found called Café Feliz. Excellent preparation and presentation, just an outstanding meal from the appetizers to the ice cream for desert. One night even had the privilege of dining on Don’s homemade red sauce and pasta, it is no wonder the girls rave about what a great cook he is.

I had absolutely a blast on my first trip to Rio and yes, Don it is all your damn fault. Oh, and maybe having relationships with two garotas on the “programa” 6,000 miles away is right up my alley, I can always blame it on Don.

P.S. I am working on a return trip in November.

I forgot to add a blurb about the hot dog truck next to Help. For late night, i.e. after 2am until daybreak, this was an outstanding hot dog. You can get them with corn, peas, onions, potatoe strips, darn near anything but a kitchen sink. Very tasty. If you were facing Help, it is on the street directly to the right.

Great to hear your perspective on things. I also have the "Inner Dog" you talk about. I think I'm capable of relationships with hottie girls but I never lose the pangs of desire to sleep with multiple hot girls. No matter how hot the girl is I'm dating I always see the grass greener on the other side. Is that wrong?? Ha, ha.

I can't wait to hit Rio in December. Hearing from all of you and reading your reports has been great. I'm gung ho about making this trip a success. I started Pimsluer Portuguese and have to say that Portuguese is one difficult language. Spanish is a breeze compared to Portuguese.

I'm also starting to work out more. I'm in pretty good shape but gearing up to be prepared to be drained and depleated of all energy I might have. Doing 3 girls a day in Buenos Aires might help me be prepared for what awaits in Rio but something tells me that Rio will be wilder. I'm also preparing myself financially. Can all you Rio pros suggest other things I can be doing to prepare for this adventure?

Thanks.

Sounds like you are on the right track. I started the beginning Pimsluer, didn't get very far. I used a phrasebook and translator to get the girls to teach me, icebreaker. If you know spanish, a bunch of the words are the same. Pronuciation is way different. One other thing I didn't note in my report, at about day 7 I started using Viamin V intermitently. If the unit didn't go soft, the girls would ride until the hour was over. Flippin insatiable.

cortogringo- i am in the planning & research stage you describe for a first trip late oct. can you elaborate on "don's" services & costs and how you best utilized them. thanks in advance. also what kind of translator would you recommend? [weak spanish only]

CortoGringo did you get the photo's I emailed to you yesterday? Hemp

Oi Corto Gringo,

Great to read your report, and it was fantastic to meet you, and also discussing the inner dog. Whether you want call it that, or just plain horniness, it is best served in Rio.

I feel that I made the most progress in Portugese this trip than my prior two. There are two things that made a difference this time:

1. Focus on saying and hearing the differences in the sounds between Spanish and Portugese. Once you can start hearing the sounds properly, then the Spanish comes in a lot more handy. Two big things are the letter R, and the letter J.

2. Find a girl that will patiently work you through things and say the same sounds over and over until you can hear them. I actually met a girl at 4x4 that spent an hour and half with me, and it was a big big help. Of course, I rewarded her with an 1 hour in a suite.

BT

BT,

Damn guy. LOL. I just watched a few of your videos. I gotta tell you...I like how you joke around with the girls. That is almost verbatim how I am with the girls in Buenos Aires. I just watched the one with Patricia and got a kick out of you joking around with her.

From the sounds of it, it looks like you speak Spanish and brushed up on your Portuguese. I'm all the more determined now to learn the language. I hate going somewhere and not being able to communicate.

P.S. I just talked to my travel agent today in Buenos Aires and she said that UWPhoto called her this morning and asked to check prices for flights to Rio for this weekend!!! LOL. I guess he didn't get enough last week.

UW Photo is in a class by himself. I had heard that he did 6 garotas in one day. Insatiable would be a good word.

If you are good at Spanish, then the key is to be able to hear and say the differences between the languages. I just had the garotas say the words over and over until I could truly hear every distinction of every letter. It helps if you are getting drunk during this process.

Boa Suerte

BT

Hemp, Did not get the email. I just sent you an email with an address that should take an attachment. Thanks bud, hope to see you soon.

BT,
I had a blast hanging and speaking with you. I am working on getting that personal touch as far as Portugese language skills. I will be writing back to Rio and I am looking at putting an ad/bullitin board post here at the University for a tutor, fairly significant number of Brasilian students. Gotta love the "Inner Dog".

47 years old, 11 days in Rio, and you had 27 sessions. I'm impressed. Since you are an accountant let me ask you how you handled what must have been a large depreciation of liquid assets?

Good report. It was fun reading.

Sweetmesquite, Don is pretty flexible in doing what you want. Included was being picked up at the airport by a driver he knows. I was picked up at a terma for my return trip to the airport by the same driver. They had to drag me out of that terma. Hemp, guess who my last session was with? Don will take you to termas and let you know if he knows anything about the performance level of the garota you are interested in. If you are interested in an outside session with a terma girl, he will see if it is possible. Don will take you on a tour of the Lido Clubs and make sure you are not ripped off on your drinks and once again if he knows anything about a girl you are interested in, he will share. He does know lots of the girls. You will get a cell phone so you can get a hold of him at any time( within reason, he does sleep a couple hours). This is pretty helpful if you srike out on your own for dinner and your cab driver has no idea what you are talking about, Don can talk to him on the cell and get you there. Believe me I ran into enough taxi drivers who were not the brightest bulbs on the planet and spoke no english, yet still try to rip you off. Don or Rhonda will arrange transport for tourist activities, etc.. I would suggest you get a hold of Rhonda at riotrips@hotmail.com to discuss your needs and any further services I have not discussed, along with the price. Hope that helps.

The pocket translator I used was a SEIKO DF4033, cost about $30. Not a ton of words, but it helped.

Cortogringo,

Please don't take this the wrong way, I mean NO disrespect. Can you give an example of your problems with the cab drivers. How badly could they have been trying to rip you off? Was it really worth paying 200US to Don in order to keep a cab driver from overcharging you 10 reals?

Kinda sounds like my brother who spends 5 bucks in gas by driving all the way across town in order to save 2 dollars on a car wash.

I have been to Rio 8 times in the last two years, and have 3 other trips schedule there this year (Oct, Nov, and Dec).

I have never had a taxi problem in Rio. At first drivers had problems understanding my Spanish. Now I have a piece of paper with the address. Works every time.

Maybe I have just had good luck. If you keep the address of the Termas on a piece of paper, the address of your hotel, and some resturants you want to visit, you should not have any problems.

CP

I'm with CP and Thumper, I never had a problem with cabbies in Rio.

If you write down the neighborhood and street address, they will usually drop you off right in front.

For example, tell any cabbie you want to go to Rua Buenos Aires quarenta-quatro in Centro. You'll find yourself dropped off right in front of my personal fave terma -- 4x4. It's the smoked glass door to the left of the Whisqueria (Which is what your credit card statement will say *lol*).

I know you guys all appreciate Don, and I'm sure he's a great guy who provides a wonderful service. I wished I would have met him on my trip. But the idea of paying someone to hold my hand when all the information I could possibly need to have a great trip is supplied in triplicate on this site boggles my scrotum.

Whether you know any Portuguese or Spanish is irrelevant. I hung out with a guy who knew no Portuguese, had never heard of CH, and still managed to find the Great Eight termas, bag gorgeous babes and have a fabulous time.

Rio is, to be perfectly honest, like shooting fish in a barrel. You paid $50 for your membership here, Sweetmesquite, just print out some trip reports and info from the Brazil section and you'll be set. Use Don or Kenn at ez-riorentals.com for your apt if you're not staying at a hotel. Rent a cellphone, if you need or want one. But meet other mongers -- we're everywhere down there -- and explore the city. Just start talking to anyone speaking english at meia petaca or in a termas and you'll probably make a new friend.

Just one quack's opinion,

Ducky

CortoGringo you now expect me to resend those email photo's when you said BIA was the last one you did (again) before your went to the airport just like BT. CortoGringo do you play the lotto? Well thats the odd's on the photo's. Since your an accountant you should be looking at Excel spreadsheets and not Rio photo's anyway. Hemp

I think that a lot of the taxi drivers are just stupid. I always carried with me the address and a map of where I wanted to go (and the address and map showing the location of the Debret). The driver would look at the map, and I'd have to explain it was downtown or what street it was-either they had never seen a map or couldn't read. This happened about 25% of the time. I also couldn't believe how many taxi drivers couldn't find the Debret-the FIRST thing I learned to say correctly was exactly where the Debret was in relation to Help Disco and how the hotel is 2 blocks down Atlantica from Help. I know I said this correctly in Portuguese, but a number of the Taxis got it wrong anyway.

Don told me that a lot of the taxi drivers don't work in Copa and aren't familiar with the streets, but don't want to tell you this, so they guess where to go.

The bottom line is to always have the written address of your apartment or hotel and also a printed map of where it is, then have a map with printed address of where you want to go. I'd say about 1/2 of the taxi drivers knew where the Terma was I wanted to go to.

HC1

Here’s a funny story about Don..

When I was there last month, he had a short Indian guy in tow with him at the termas and restaurants. Turns out he had come to Rio just for a vacation and didn’t know about mongering. He was staying at the hotel that is adjacent to Terma Monte Carlo. In fact, it may be the same building. This Indian guy was real nice, but he has a thick Indian accent and spoke no Portuguese, so nobody could understand his English when he was asking where to find some pussy. The first few days he went to the beach, but he couldn’t talk to the girls-I don't think he even made it down to Help.

So this Indian guy is walking out of his hotel a little frustrated, and who does he bump into going in to Monte Carlo?-Yep, he approaches Don walking in to MC and asks him if he has any idea where the action is in Rio. Don then turns him 180 degrees to face Monte Carlo and points to the door. We got a big kick out of this because there is probably no one in Rio who knows more about mongering than Don and the Indian guy really hit the lottery by asking him about where to monger. Needless to say, this guy became a client and enjoyed the rest of his trip immensely. If this guy hadn’t run into Don he probably never would have known that his hotel was next door to a Terma (or even known what a Terma was), and he would have left thinking that Rio had no action.

I didn’t use Don, but I will say that a lot of guys swear by him and he does know pretty much every hot spot in Rio.


HC1

Even a blind Indian should be able to find Monte Carlo if he gets in a cab in Rio & asks where the action is (that's why cab drivers get kickbacks). Anyone that has spent more than 15 minutes reading this board knows where every hot spot in Rio is (or at least the names - you can print the addresses for the cab drivers). Finding friends to discover Rio with is easy (list your trip on the calendar or in the Rio Trip buddy section) - or go sit in Meia Pataca for 30 minutes (you can find guys in there that make Don look like a cigar puffing virgin). One can go to 4x4 and get laid there for the entire week for what Don charges folks.

Youngtom,
Thats great, but HC1s story is true. The guy had been in town for days literally feet from MC. He had limited communication skills due to the locals limited english and his heavy accent. Don was there with the info for him, and you werent.

YT,

I have never used Don's services because as you say it can BE done without a guide, particularly if you speak some Spanish and brush up on Portugese and read these boards.

However, I have hung out with Don many times, and I consider him to be a good friend, that has helped me many times, not because of money just because he's a good guy.

YT, have you actually met him and hung out with him? I am just trying to figure out the underlying reason on why you are so negative on him.

Although I don't pay for Don's services, I can certainly see how many other's would. It is also evident from this board, that virtually everyone that has paid for his services, has had a positive review.

So what gives? Have you had a negative experience with Don? If not, how can you have developed such a strong opinion of him?

BT

Nope Thumper I won't take it the wrong way. You took one example of how I thought Don could help a newbie and made it a focal point and yes, I don't believe the fee for Don's services are worth saving R$10. I looked at how smooth my trip went and how effectivly my time was utilized and how at certain junctures if things had gone wrong, what it would have cost me in time and effort had I been on my own. Kinda like insurance, when you don't use it, it seems a waste of money. But when you need it, money well spent.
Duckman, I don't know what times you go to 4x4? But the half a dozen times I went in the early afternoon, if a cab driver would have tried to pull up to the door, it would have easily added another hour to the drive time. If he even could have done it with the kind of traffic involved.

Corto--do not be questioning Ducky. He is the only monger I know of amongst us who has CLIMBED to the top of SugarLoaf rather than take the cable car.

By the way YT, I dont know what you do in termas, but the cost of Don would only buy me two terma visits. Not to mention he has saved me a few hundred by teaching me the scams to look out for.

GCL

Hemp, Damn it I am going to win the lottery this week. I need the money for my next trip. I don't beleive that I said whom I did? The beauty of Excel is that you can embed photos, makes for a much more effective presentation. Later, my friend( I hope).
CG

TightFit,
I had hugh reserves in my fixed assets. When I was a student at SDSU, I tried to get the accounting frat to get t shirts printed with the following " Accountants do it with Double Entry"( a late 70's ploy on words). Advisor looked at me like I was nuts.

GCL,
No disrespect intended and yes, climbing Surgarloaf, garners hugh respect.

YT,

I have to disagree. I had to steer two English blokes staying next door to me at the Debret to MC. They said they had read the internet and were told that Help was the place to go. About my 4th day I overheard them in the hall complaining about a Help garota, so I asked them if they had tried a terma. Their answer.....What's a terma? So I gave them a copy of the map with MC and Luomo and told them to hit it. 3 days later I ran into them in MC-they had spent all 3 afternoons and nights there and had done basically every girl. The last day of my report I mentioned two other English guys (they were a different pair) in Luomo's locker-they too had been steered to Help the first few days of their trip and a taxi driver finally dropped them off at Luomo. All of these people would have greatly benefited from a guide.

I think it's naive to assume everybody knows about this board or speaks Portuguese well enough to find the hot spots. I'd wager most guys don't go to Rio to monger, but just want to find some action on the side. Just think that if you didn't know about this site or maybe WSG, how would you know what you do about Rio if you'd never been? Say you were going to Prague next week and didn't have internet access, how would you know where the action was?

As for Don, I would never use him as a guide because I don't use guides. I would recommend him to others because I've seen him help a lot of guys.

HC1

Honest, I know how to spell. Hugh = huge

I don't have anything against Don personally (he sounds like a great guy & I've never heard anyone have less than fanastic remarks about him) but I think that guides in Rio are a waste of money (at least for anyone that has access this board & takes the time to read the various Rio trip reports & tidbits that people have posted in the Brazil section). Personally I tell the blind Indians roaming around Rio to go join clubhombre.com for $5.95 a month.

Many 4x4 fans do get in & out of 4x4 for 150 reais each visit (40 minutes in the cabine). 150*5 = 750 reais which is about 200 bucks at current rates.

YT, you'd probably get a kick out of this. Don is an A-hole when he's drunk!!! He's a bad drunk as we drank with him several times. But you know what, we still like him. Don isn't just a guide, he is a great friend to have in Rio. We never paid him a dime or depended on him to get laid.

I'm sure your friend Ken is also a great guy. We've never heard you went against people using or planing to use Ken's services. We wonder what's really your motive with all these severe atti toward Don given the fact that you've never met the man.

Also, go easy on the "blind Indian". I have been mongering for 15 years, but didn't discover "the enternet" until couple years ago through the old Redsnake.

After my first trip to Rio 5 years ago, I desperately wanted to move to Brasil. I am a IT professional and I foolishly thought I would have no problem finding a job with an American company in Rio. 5 years later I realise that its damn near impossible to get a job in Rio unless you have MAJOR hookups.

I have nothing negative to say about Don, in fact I am green with envy. I NEVER in my wildest dreams thought I could get someone to pay me 200US a shot to take them around to termas and Help. I only wish I had thought of it before he did, I would have quit my job long ago and moved to Rio.

YOUNGTOWN, MY 1ST POST ON CLUBHOMBRE.COM WAS ABOUT WHY GUYS PAY FOR GUIDES!!!ETC. with ALL the INTEL/INFO on this site and others on RIO Mia P./HELP/TERMAS/BARBARELLAS/BEACHES ETC.

I to couldn't understand why I guy would need to pay (OR BE AROUND A GUY THEY JUST MET EVEN FOR FREE). I CAME UNDER ATTACK maybe it's my years many years in the US NAVY or world travels, but I have learned that everyone is not like me or others and they would need a guide or someone to show them around a new place.

BUT, for the guides that are members of this site or KNOW ABOUT THIS SITE I couldn't understand it but then again it's not my $$$, and a person can spend their $$$, or whatever they want to. I have seen DON/KEN walking around RIO over the years but I never met (DON,KEN) I have heard guys speak of them in good terms, so I don't think anything is wrong with either of them two each his own.

For does that don't have internet or belong to this site WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE INTEL/INFO ON RIO OR EVEN ABOUT KEN/DON or any of the other guides I have talk to JOSE before all of these guys are cool and gives a good service, if a guy feel that they need a guide go ahead and spend his own $$$, I will never tell a grown man how to spend his time and $$$.

But, Youngtown I do see your point I wouldn't say anything BAD about ANY GUIDES unless I have paid or went out with one and had 1st hand INFO on one.

I WILL END THIS WITH for guys out there that never been outside of the USA and if you are a nervous type or like to drink alot or JUST DON'T LIKE TO WALK AROUND ALONE, it would be a good ideal for you to hire someone to be with and I WOULD SAY GO AHEAD and hook up with some of the guides that guys have talk about on this site.

But for guys that have been in the US NAVY or any other branch of services I wouldn't have to tell you guys anything you already know the tell and I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM OVERSEAS and I didn't speak all the langauges of the different countries that I have visit one langauge that they all understand that's the $$$$.

When walking around were in RIO, (Mia P.,and termas/help) etc. even the shopping malls when you hear guys speaking English just ask them for some INTEL/INFO they would be more then happy to show you around and then you have a buddy to hang out with, for myself I like to go on RECON missions SOLO, I have had my BEST times on travel destinations alone going to were I want to go,when I want to go, when I want to leave etc. not having to worry if a guy is going to get drunk and act like a ugly American etc. and have to worry about baby sitting a guy etc.

By the way some of my BEST SO-CALLED GUIDES HAVE BEEN TAXI DRIVERS (middle age guys), when ever I go anywhere overseas I have always found me a good taxi driver that understand english and know were the red-light areas are etc. I don't care if they get kick backs or not from the bars/clubs/termas/etc. In what is important to me is a ride/driver that is going to be there when I want them to be there, and take me there for a good price, I don't need a guy that have a phonebook or cellphone full of numbers JUST TAKE ME TO THE LOCATION (help/termas/barbarella/etc.) AND I WILL PICK OUT AND FIND MY OWN GIRL THAT I WANT PICK FROM, as far as english goes I never had a problem with girls understanding what I WANTED THEM to do for me trust me THEY SEE MANY GRINGOS OVER THE YEARS TO KNOW WHAT WE ALL WANT FROM THEM,the more they understand and speak the more $$$$ they will make, they not dumb to not to understand this fact so guys out there don't think you must have SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR YOU, BY THE WAY I HAVE FOUND OUT OVER THE YEARS THE LESS THE GIRLS UNDERSTAND ENGLISH THE BETTER THE TIME I WOULD HAVE, (I am sure others will say different, I feel this way) for the one's that speak English they seem to feel that they should CHARGE MORE BASE ON THE FACT THEY FEEL THEY ARE BETTER THEN THE OTHER GIRLS BECAUSE THEY SPEAK ENGLISH.

Sorry so the long report but, I wanted to makes some points on this guide issue that seems to go up from time to time, as we all know everyone have their own views on this subject, the bottom line is used who you want to KEN/DON/ etc. to each his own.

But one last question for guys that don't have internet and don't know about clubhombre,WSG etc. HOW WILL THEY KNOW ABOUT THE GUIDES MENTION ON THIS SITE??? or the club HELP/BARBARELLAS/TERMAS etc.

That's why I would RECOMMEND to you guys that whenever travelling to ANYWHERE BE IT USA/OVERSEAS go to the DOORMAN at the hotels they mostly will speak some English ask them to TURN YOU ON TO THE GOOD TAXI DRIVER that speak english and want try to take you for your $$, THINK ABOUT IT you have to pay for a ride anyway why not have a driver you can trust at 3:00am in the morning to take you were you want to.

Something else I notice after my travels around the world (BRAZIL,PHILIPPINES,SINGAPORE,THAILAND,JAPAN,GERMAN,NETHERLANDS,etc.etc ) I wonder why I DON'T NEVER SEE EUROPEANS GUYS with guides to towed mostly just Americans ?????????

I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A FLAME WAR I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT DON/KEN/JOSE ETC. I even said, used them if you feel a need to when taking trips to ISLANDS I meant used JOSE next time or if I want apartment I AM SURE DON/KEN can take care of that to many of your guys have sad go things about them not to used them for apartments, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS A GUY HAVE WHEN LOOKING FOR A GIRLS OR PLACES TO VISIT IN RIO.

The point I am making NOT JUST IN RIO, I AM JUST TRYING TO HELP GUYS OUT WHEN THEY TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD: THIS SITE HAVE ALL THE INTEL/INFO a guy could ever need to have a good time in any desination they would want to go to,
This site is for guys to write there own point of views, SOME LIKE BLACK GIRLS SOME LIKE WHITE GIRLS SOME LIKE BIG TITS, SOME LIKE BIG BUTTS, SOME LOVE ASAINS GIRLS SOME LIKE THE EUROPEAN LOOK. SO SOME LIKE GUIDES AND SOME DON'T THIS IS WHAT MAKE AMERICAN the way it, to each his own, everyone should be able write their own view points if all reports was the same I WOULD FALL TO SLEEP as I sure other would also.

And this is my style (view point) I am sure 50% will agree and 50% will disgree but thanks goodness we all have a FOURM to share

KidCisco

I MEANT TO SAY YOUNGTOM, I see you point not YOUNGTOWN.

KidCisco

If Don wasn't a guide in Rio I would still like to hang with him as he is a terrific guy and a lot of fun drunk or sober, cigar or without. I would have also liked to have met Kenn on my last trip but unfortunately I didn't. You are right guys everyone has their own opinion and I respect that. I can assure you no matter how many times I go to Rio I will always look Don up. Hemp

Sorry that some of you have taken my words as a personal attack - I didn't mean them that way. I just feel anyone with an id on this sight probably shouldn't need a guide.

Anyone hanging with GCL,UWphoto,DonGringo and Sandman is bound to have a great time.
These guys are legends in the monger world !

Great report its very hard to stay a TJ man with all your reports !!

Thanks
Milkman

YT
"anyone with an id on this sight probably shouldn't need a guide. "
You're absolutely right. I do not need a guide.
I can do perfectly fine without one.

This is about more than whether I need a guide. Fact is, I WANT a guide. It's a vacation. I can afford a guide. I frequently travel alone and appreciate a hombre-friendly guide's company. Also, when new to a country on a short trip, I like the learning curve to be short and painless.

Examples:
I consider Orlando in San Jose to be a friend. Great guy, and I'm glad he's helped me out. He doesn't have a set price, but is very reasonable. When I wanted to rent my own car and drive the Pacific coast solo, he offered to drive me in his van for the same price as the car rental and gas. That's a good deal.

Jesus in Havana is an invaluable resource for a cuba newbie on his first day. He too does not have a set price. He'll meet you at the airport, set you up with a classy casa particular and drive around w/you to teach you the ropes.

Don in Rio is a character. These things he did for me:
-found me a clean apartment and saw that I arrived there safely at night (he doesn't want any of his guests to get hassled or robbed)
-lent me a cell phone for free (i paid for the prepaid minutes) I could call the US from the taxi to check in, which meant more time to play.
-brought me medicine to the apartment when I was VERY sick
-provided a very entertaining tour of the best/worst of Rio's night scene
-attempted to arrange a killer party for us at VIPS, which was cancelled due to rain
-translated for a guy who knows no portuguese

If you're on a budget - skip the guide. However, it cost me less than $20/day in CR and Cuba. That's a no-brainer to me. Don's Rio guide fee is higher, but the level of service is as well. YMMV.

Sakebomb,

You're been mongering for 15 years? Holy sh*t. I didn't know if that was a misprint. If so you started damn early. LOL. You look young to have started hobbying 15 years ago.

I totally agree with Milkman. Sometimes simply by hanging out with other experienced guys you can have a good time. Every trip to BA has been fun hanging out with the other guys from the various chat boards. I'll take 2 or 3 more trips down to South America this year and each trip gonna be hooking up with some guys.

Guide or no guide you can bet I'll find the hottie chicas. As I mentioned to one member on this board. Even the blind find a way to get water and food that are essentials. I consider sex to be no different than water or food. It's a basic necessity!!!

What is VIPS in Rio? Is it a club?

Dang, this thread got long. Ok, you've read my report. Did it sound like I had fun? I did, a hell've alot of fun. Did I meet some great guys, yea I met some great guys and I am thankful for it. I hit the ground running and I hit it hard, I am not a young man. I said in the beginning of my report, that I thought I would have done allright on my own. Bottom line is I don't know if I would have had as good a time as I did without Don's help, I do know I had a great time and meet some great folks by being with Don, which especially includes Don himself. Do what you feel comfortable with, I did and I have no regrets. I consider this an investment in my mongering future and when it is averaged out over my total Brazilian experiences, the cost will be a pittance. I will be back in November, hope to see you there.
P.S. Good to hear from you Dongringo, hope all is well. Great meeting you in Rio.
CG

Godfather, that wasn't a misprint. I hung with the wrong crowd and was introduced to my first puta bar in Mexico when I was 16. I'm craved for beautiful women since then.

Since you're going to stay at an apt on your trip, try to have a local POC (Point of Contact) or a local friend available whenever you need their help. The reason I said that is because most private apts don't have a staff to serve you. The security guard at the apt doesn't speak a lick of English and he can't run any errand for you. Why is it important? It really isn't unless you run into the problem I had.

I got stung by a bee while hanging around Copa beach. My left ankle was swollen and I couldn't walk for almost 2 days. So unless, you're fluent, try to say "I'm stung by a bee and I need some medicine to cure it" in Portuguese. The Spanish and Portuguese you use to joke around with the garotas and the chicas do not seem to help at that severe instance. "Os", the guy we rented those apts came over with medicine and foods w/i 10 mins after I called him.

That was my case, but guys do get food poisoning, flu, bronchitis, mugged...and unless you're fluent, having a friend while mongering in a foreign land is better than having none. With that to say, call Don, Dood or send them an email before your arrival. You absolutely have nothing to loose. Take my words for it.

CortoGringo - I'm sorry for interrupting your thread about your trip. I'm glad to hear that you had a fanastic trip.

Vips is a high end love motel located in Leblon with a great ocean view -http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/
The high end rooms there are awesome for special occasions.

The best stories I have had on my mongering trips would have been ruined, absolutely ruined, if I had I guide to save me from my mistakes. I am cautious, but I don't like to play it boring.
That being said, I met Don, fortuitously, on my last trip, hung out at Alcazar for a few beers. He's a decent enough person for those who either need or want his services.

Cortogringo,
Great report, and it was a fucking pleasure getting to know you in Rio. Let's do it again.

On the value of a guide, and specifically Don: Don put in the ultimate "cock-block" for me one night at MC. I wanted to give Deborah a spin, having heard amazing reports from some very trustworthy guys. Don called Deborah and told her I would be by and what I looked like (amazingly, the description didn't scare her off). When I got to MC the place was packed. Sitting at the bar I overheard two separate conversations of guys waiting their turn with her. One big guy was getting testy, saying he was a regular and had been waiting for hours. Finally, Deborah appeared and she made a beeline to me, pissing off the other two guys royally. She explained to them that I was a "special friend." Upstairs I asked her how I'd become a special friend, she said that any friend of Don's is her special friend. So, having taken a cabina for 45 minutes, Deborah proceeded to work me over like I'd never been worked over for 2 hours. When the phone rang after 45 minutes, she took it off the hook and said "I'm not done with him yet" and left the phone disconnected. Man, what a ride (she has a great collection of toys and an unending supply of energy). When I was leaving (we closed the place down, leaving the other guys fuming), she told me to make sure that Don invites her to his apartment for dinner again--as CortGringo noted, his culinary skills are legendary among the terma girls. So, it appears that they way to a girl's pussy is through her stomach.

Bwana,
Thank you, it was great running into and hanging with a kindred soul. Let me know the next time you're going to head to Rio and I will do whatever I can to see you there. I'm sure I will see you soon.
CG

Rio is like the land of gender opposites.

While there, I witnessed several girls publicly taking an assertive/dominating role in the pursuit of their man. Pretty girls too. Very refreshing.

"the way to a terma girls' pussy is through her stomach"... that is so wild too.

From the stories, as well as my personal experiences, the girls aren't happy unless they show you one helluva orgasm. Also, several times I was prohibited from changing position or rythms while the garota was getting off. That hasn't happened to me very often anywhere else.

Seeing Bia's face light up whenever Cortogringo was in the room was wild. And by my math, CG is old enough to be her father.

Call me easily fooled, but I have reached the conclusion that the average Rio Terma girl enjoys her work, and really enjoys Americans. The attitude/price ratio in Brazil must be one of the best in the world?

DonGringo,

"The attitude/price ratio in Brazil must be one of the best in the world?"

That's the conclusion I've drawn. I know tastes and preferences vary, but I have traveled all over the globe, and I always return to Rio (and Brasil more generally) because the women are so into it themselves. There have been occasions when I wasn't certain who was working for whom. After Deborah ran me ragged for two hours, I almost asked her for 150 reais.

A friend of mine who used to work at 4X4 (Duda) told me last week, when I asked why she had continued to work at 4X4 for a year after she'd gotten a real and better paying job, "I can go there and get paid and get pleasure at the same time. Are there any jobs for men where you can do that?" She had me there.

CG-

Jan. 27th. Be there or be square.

BD

DG-

PS. Not only do the girls want to get off, but they are devastated if you don't get off. I have had girls do a condom check to make sure I got off. Once I tried to fake it because I'd already come earlier in the session and it was five days into the trip...bad mistake! She scolded me, lubed me up, and jerked me off until I came on her face.

BD

Thanks Sakebomb. Good advice. Yeah, the owner of the apartments is American and offered to show us around for free. Also, his employee in Rio also speaks English. I can't wait.