2006/11 Knockkneedman - No Heat in Kiev

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By Knockkneedman on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 04:40 pm:  Edit

Preliminaries:

So I was initially scheduled to go on a trip to Prague leaving October 14th. I decided to change jobs and when I gave notice was politely asked (well I didn’t think it was really all that polite but that is a different story) to depart immediately. This left me with nothing to do and a paycheck to boot. I was fortunate that my ticket was refundable and so I changed the dates on the ticket and left the 11th returning the 19th. I also decided to change the itinerary and to spend 4 nights in Kiev along with three nights in Prague. The main reason was to do something different and see if there was something to be found off the beaten path. The biggest problem I had with the change was getting hotels. For some reasons hotels are tough to come by in Kiev and I had a really tough time finding a room. I was able to find a suite at a 3-star hotel near downtown but not at the places I really wanted to stay. (Rule 1: Don’t make plans to go to Kiev at the last minute). Fortunately, I have Diamond status at Hilton and they got me a room and I used points for my nights in Prague.

Prague 1:

I made arrangements in advance to have an escort meet me at the hotel when I arrived. I used Charme-Models (http://www.charme-models.com). The girl was Bara. She is the girl in the picture and was gorgeous. Spoke OK English but far from fluent. She did kiss and BBBJ to completion but it was kind of a pseudo CIM. She kept her mouth there while a came but didn’t actually keep sucking it out or anything, so it just drooled out of her mouth. Not really all that great of a finish. The sex was average at best. We went to dinner and then back to the room for round two. Again, it was basically boring sex with a really hot girl.

I sent her on her way and dozed off for a while and then woke up and went to K5 (it was around midnight). The doorman at the Hilton called K5 for me which was helpful because it was really crowded and they did not want to let me in at first until I said told them I was from the Hilton and was told I had a reservation (it just happened to be really full, normally this is not an issue)

K5 has been described so I am not going to explain the place. But all in all I think it is the most overrated sex club I have ever been to. The girls are hot but they just want to get you in the room and then the sex is boring, no passion at all. You can sit with them as long as you want in the bar but it is not like they really appear to be enjoying hanging out.

One of the most interesting things was that I ended up recognizing/knowing a couple of the girls from L’Uomo who were there working. I wasn’t going to do any of them because I am not going to fly to Prague and have sex with a Brazilian but talking with them was almost as enjoyable as the lifeless sex that Prague had so far shown me.

The next day I did the tourist thing and then went back to K5 earlier. Nothing really made my jaw drop and so ended up just talking with some folks in the bar, drinking a bunch of Coke Light and going on my way


Kiev – The best laid plans collapse

So I again set up in advance to have an escort spend some time with me. I was going to have her spend a day with me to help get me settled etc. I had read some reviews elsewhere about the agency (GIA) so felt good about the deal. So as I am getting ready I call up the agency to finalize everything and something has happened and she is not able to meet with me. There was one other girl I really wanted to do (no English so just for a bang) and she ends up being sick so is a no go also. So now I am going to be arriving with nothing in place, ugh.

GIA: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-biztravel4nov04,0,3063025.story?coll=la-home-business

Before the trip I had done a bunch of looking around and found a few escort web sites (listed below). So I was hoping that things would still work out. So I get to the hotel which by American standards is nothing special and small, but certainly adequate (although for the price I complete rip-off but this seems to be the norm). If I were to go again I would stay at the Radisson. The prices are outrageous but I think it is probably the only really good hotel in the city. There are some 3 star hotels that seemed to have OK reviews but none that had any rooms (see Rule 1 above).

So I start making calls to some of the escorts I had found and am a bit surprised to find that English is not very well known (especially because some of the sites are in English or say ‘I speak English’ in the ad). I am able to arrange something and the girl comes over. She is the girl I asked for and is hot, easily an 8, and the cost $100 for an hour. We get to it; no real kissing, covered BJ (this is standard) the sex, though, was pretty good. Once we got going she seemed into it and it was a fun romp, especially after the ho-hum sex in Prague.

After some dinner I was going to find what Kiev offered. I asked the friendly bellhop where to go to find woman and he told me about someplace called the River Palace, so off I went. The River Palace is a big boat with a Casino and bar and a nightclub. For some reason I was expecting a strip club or something along those lines. The nightclub opened at 9:00 but the lady told me things did not get going until after 11:00 (although at this point I don’t really know what that means). So seeing as it is only 9:00 and I already lost too much money gambling in Prague I decide to just go back to the hotel and chill.

At the hotel I proceed to fall asleep (the time change between CO and Eastern Europe really mucked me up) and wake up at about 2:30. I figured if the club did not get going until after 11:00 it was worth checking out at 3:00, so off I went. So what this club ends up being is like a miniature Help without much dancing. It was pretty easy to tell that the girls were all working. So I hang out for a while and find someone that I am into, we strike a deal, and off we go. Now I learn that in Kiev everyone is going to try and pinch you every chance they get (an exaggeration but not really). After arguing with the cabbie about price I finally get him from absurd to expensive for a ride back to the hotel. When I get to the hotel I find there is a $20 ‘fee’ to bring the girl up to my room (this is paid discretely to the security). These fees are basically standard costs of doing business in Kiev.

Again no real kissing and a covered bj but once we get going the sex is great and we go at it for hours and by the time I finally collapsed she still wanted more. We both fall asleep and all is well. Unfortunately when we get up and she is ready to leave I find out that we had agreed to $200 not the $100 that I thought. I wasn’t too happy about it but gave her the extra money (I would later learn that $200 was standard at that club so I probably did misunderstand).

So why did I call this report ‘No heat in Kiev?’ It seems that the government controls the heat many building throughout the city. The second day it turned really cold but the city had not turned on the heat yet. The hotel along with pretty much everyplace else was really cold. The heat did not get turned on for another day

So the one piece of standard tourist advice I will give everyone is make sure to get maps that have both the English transliteration and the actual Russian spelling. Being able to say the name of a street doesn’t do much good when you are looking at a sign written in Russian. Same goes for a map of the Metro. The trains are about $0.10 each way (yes that is 10 cents) and pretty easy to navigate but the signs are all in Russian. My first trip on the Metro I learned this the hard way. I would suggest taking the Metro as an interesting experience at least once if you are there. Taxis are not cheap so the train is the way to go, imo.

The next afternoon I did get a girl from GIA (the agency I mentioned earlier). I wasn’t too sure from here pictures but she spoke English and I was in the mood to have somewhat of a conversation. Well she arrived and I was not all that happy with her looks, but she her description said BBBJ/CIM so I figured I would give it a shot. We talked and I said I was just into oral so she went to town. She did deliver as advertised, which was a nice change of pace. After that I just had her give me a message and we talked and then another BJ before she left. So I was able to get pretty taken care of and not really have to look at her too much.

The next night I went back to the River Palace but got there around midnight so I could check it out a little longer. After a while found someone I liked, she had spent some time in Miami and spoke ok English. She asked $300 for a few hours but went down to $200 (you may be starting to see that Kiev is by no means cheap). Same story no kissing, covered, but again pretty good sex.

The next day it was back to trying girls from the internet with the same difficulties in finding someone that spoke English well enough to make the arrangements. But I did get it done. That night I ended up not making it to River Palace.

My last day I was determined to go to do an incall with one of the internet agencies. They are apartments with what I figured where a few girls at all times. So after some serious effort to finally figure out where I needed to go I made it to the apartment. I guess I had envisioned something along the lines of an Asian MP in the US or a message parlor in Brazil. This place was nothing more than a large apartment (not all that nice). There were three girls and some guy. No one spoke much English if any. One girl was hanging out in her bathrobe and I was most interested in her (another had been the one that came to my hotel the previous day). I jumped in the shower and then we went to her room. So the room is right off the living room and has a blanket hanging up instead of a door. I was very pleasantly surprised to find she did have a great body under the bathrobe. The same story though, no kissing and covered.

My summary experience of the Kiev private scene is that the pictures on the web are accurate so you might as well just have the girl come to your hotel.

My next thing was to try to see what a Kiev strip joint would be like. Basically, no different from a US strip club and did not seem worth the time. The one girl I talked to for a while tried to get me to buy her a $20 drink.

That night I went back to River Palace and found one of the most beautiful girls I have ever had sex with. While she did do a covered BJ everything else was great (she did kiss and was really into receiving oral).

Another non-mongering related comment I will make is that I found the food in Kiev to be terrible, unless you are into the salty cured fishes.


Kiev escort sites:

Contacted girls from these two:
http://www.top-models.com.ua (can’t find link anymore to girl)
http://www.hot-kiev.com/ (http://www.hot-kiev.com/detal.php?page=girl&id=67, http://www.hot-kiev.com/detal.php?page=girl&id=83)


Others I found but did not use:
http://lancewolf.com/kiev/escortludmila/#
http://www.belamodel.tk/
http://www.ladieskiev.com/models-kiev-escort.htm
http://www.vodkaescort.com/gallery.php
http://www.kievprivat.com/
http://www.kievbeauties.kiev.ua/en/main/

Prague 2:

I returned to Prague for a night on my way back home. I took the girl named Jane from the Charme models site listed above. She is not as good looking face wise as the pictures but had a really nice body and amazingly firm breasts. She was pretty passionate and we had pretty good sex all in all.

By Jaguar on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 05:59 pm:  Edit

Knockneedman,

How are you doing? Sounds like you had a great trip with some real beauties. The web sites are fantastic!!

Thanks for the detailed report, it must have been a real adventure.

Jag

By Kjtrav on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 12:18 pm:  Edit

Spent what seemed like a month one week in Kiev in the spring and it was the same with the heat. We also only had hot water everyother day. Great report. River Palace did have a lot of really nice woman.

By The_happy_monge on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 08:16 am:  Edit

thanks for sharing ,,,,

i do like the fact that the Eastern Europe girls
are very hot looking, but also they can
be as cold as their frigid weather.
sometimes ??

and $20 for a drink, they can kiss my white ASS !! know thats expensive

thats my 2 cents,,
happy monger

By Tbirdjoy on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 09:29 am:  Edit

Knockneedman

Thanks for the report on Prague and Kiev. I've been to Ukraine and Russia both twice and can attest to the outstanding beauty of the Russian women. I've learned some Russian over the years which helps with the women. Russian women can be extremely passionate but they need to warm up to you a little bit before hand. Knowing the prices of durable goods in Ukraine and what the average income per is month $200 for a piece of ass is why above what it should be. I don't know how they justify that price. I've added a link to a great site for independents in Moscow with very reasonable prices for anyone interested. Again thanks for the great report.

Tbirdjoy

http://www.publichouse.nu/searchgirl_eng.php?pics=1&typeofsexnormal=1&maxonpage=500

By The_happy_monge on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 09:46 am:  Edit

hei there..!! Tbirdjoy...

always in need of better prices..

thnaks for info,,,

By The_happy_monge on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 01:56 pm:  Edit

thats the reason we are flocking to ASIA.
most of us mongers..

nice, beatifull, calm, easy going,
outstanding service from the girls.

By The_happy_monge on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 01:59 pm:  Edit

thanks for them web adresses...

know only if I could go there, actually no,

bring them here to Chicago,
just as cold as Ukraine, but we got plenty
of HOT WATER..!!!!!!!!

By Hunterman on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 11:30 pm:  Edit

Hey KKM, good report--nice to get off the beaten track and do some exploring, thanks for the reporting.

Bara looked pretty sexy (as did most of the other girls on that site). How much did she cost--did you have to take the minimum booking of 6 hours like the site said? Were the rates the same for the others?

By Knockkneedman on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 05:41 am:  Edit

Hunterman good to see your name floating around the board again. You do have to take them for the minimum times. There are other places that have 1-2 hour rates but from what I read on a European board these agencies are less reputable. Barra was gorgeous unfortunately not super performance. You definitely have the chance to do some runway model level girls, but you cannot be budget minded.

I am planning on giving Thailand another try this summer, no business this time and head to Pattaya.

By Knockkneedman on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 05:47 am:  Edit

Not sure what happened but I notice I have the wrong link for GIA in Kiev. The link is:

http://www.gia.com.ua/e/


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