All the girls we know who say they go to Italy to work, it is not true. They go to work in Svizzera, or Switzerland in Italian. Our sport is not legal in Italy, they have no sex establishments that are open destinations. The girls actually go to work in a culturally similar part of Switzerland called the Ticino just 40 kilometers from Milan. This is my second visit, during which I gained a much better lay of the land. Canton Ticino is the southern most area of Switzerland bordering Italy. Most of us are familiar with Lake Como, and Lake Lugano is only a few kilometers away. The area has a Mediterranean climate with mild summers and mild winters. Lugano is a beautiful city surrounded by mountains and situated on Lago di (Lake) Lugano and actually about half of Lago di Lugano is in Italy. You may as well be in northern Italy as the Ticinese speak Italian, eat Italian, dress Italian, look Italian but different than Italy, most everyone is very wealthy. The area is comprised of two major tourist towns, Lugano and Locarno. Lugano is the third largest economy in Switzerland and also the private banking capital of the world. Insurance and institutional banking is bigger in other parts of Switzerland, however, for private, high net worth individuals, Lugano is ground zero. Every major Swiss bank has a private investment set up there. So in order to accommodate this private banking industry, they have facilities to compliment high net worth business travelers – nice hotels, great restaurants, great shopping, and most importantly, great looking women for hire. Lugano is also a resort destination for people who live in the Milan area, wealthy Milanese actually do their shopping in Lugano where all of the major high end retailers have stores in the most beautiful pedestrian shopping area I have ever seen…Gucci, Prada, Bulgari – they all have high end stores with clerks dressed in custom tailored suits. There is also a Casino that is packed nightly with Northern Italians.

Now for the women:

The non pay for play nightlife is non-existent in Lugano, or at least I could not find it. There are essentially two areas to find pay for play, on the southern area of Lugano fronting the lake (the Paradiso area) and the Lugano Sud area along the A2/A3 autostrada frontage roads and areas near the autostrada exit as you head into the Lugano-Paradiso area.

The area fronting the Lake is frequented by wealthy business travelers and features eastern European women working in the bar format. One could spend 2-300 CHF on drinks alone. At that point it would cost anywhere from 250-500 CHF to take a girl back to your room for an amount of time which would be negotiable. I did not chose this option but I spoke at length with the owner of Cecil (the most expensive “clip joint” on the lake where the drinks can run 80 CHF and the girls don’t leave for less than 500 CHF) , the waiter for another lakeside club, and a cab driver to get my information. I also walked into two of these places and did some investigation. There were some very attractive women, however, none that warranted an 80 CHF drink nor 500 CHF for a session or two. I checked out Cecil and another bar two doors to the south of the Eden Plaza Hotel. The Lake options just did not appeal to me based upon price and the uncertainty of service level that I’ve experienced with Eastern European women.

Now for the areas around the autostrada.... These clubs are frequented by mongers from northern Italy commuting across the Swiss border. The women working in these places were predominantly Brazilian with a minority of Columbians, Dominicans, and a few Romanians. I visited three clubs – Bar Oceano, Bar Corona, and Iceberg Disco.

Bar Corona (Strada della Coruna, 3)

This place was difficult to find. The first time I visited Lugano I drove around for quite a while looking for this place. This time, before I left, I was able to get the address from another board, however, I still could not locate the place either on mapquest or the Tom Tom portable GPS that I rented from Avis. I found this website in Italian that gave narrative directions, and it was only by chance that I found the place – the concierge at the hotel had circled a restaurant on the street Strada Della Coruna. Even after I located the street driving, it took me several minutes to figure out that when you exit the main road headed towards the autostrada, you need to make a right in the dead end direction instead of continuing on in the direction of the exit. The parking are for the place is at the dead end of the street. If you ever visit, keep this in mind or take a taxi. Bar Corona is almost exclusively Brazilian women, ranging in quality from 6-9. The place is small and I counted about 20 girls working there each time I visited. The bar is nice and well lit so you can really take a good look. The format is that you session in a room in an apartment building adjacent to the bar and the girls actually live in the room…there is actually a little kitchenette in the rooms, just like a small studio apartment in the US-the same went for Bar Oceano. The first time I went, I sessioned with Valentina from Brasilia, 5’9”, 135 lbs, DD implants, 9 face, 9 body, 24 yo. Very enthusiastic, no rush, wonderful BBBJ. 150 CHF for the session, however, you must buy the girl a drink before going upstairs, and for a suco laranga it was 28 CHF! Beers for the customer are 14 CHF. The session was a solid 10. The next night I stopped Bar Corona again. Once I realized Valentina was the hottest garota working there I employed her and one of her friends to spice it up a bit. Her friend Kelli, 5’10”, 125 lbs, solid B cup, body 8, face 7,5 was one of those garotas who just had a perfect pussy. It looked so good. It was 300 CHF for the session which lasted about an hour and I thought it was great that, besides having to buy two 28 CHF drinks, there was no dupla premium. The only thing better than sex with a garota is sex with two of them at once.

Bar Oceano

I hit Bar Oceano twice during the two day visit to Lugano. The first night there were over 70 girls in the place. I would say that 40-50% of them were Brazilian with the balance being an equal mix of Columbians, Dominicans, and Romanians. There were even a few Italians. When you walk in, you get a card that tracks your charges, however, you don’t need to buy a girl a drink in order to session like at Bar Corona. There is no difference in drink costs for girls or customers, beers are 14 CHF and other drinks are various prices. I found out the hard way that Sex on the Beach costs 28 CHF when I bought it for a garota that I sessioned with. Same bar downstairs and apartment building format as Bar Corona. When you go to session, you walk out the front door (paying for your drinks first) and around to the back of the building where you meet up with the girl. So the first night I chose Raquel, a 5’2” inch 105 lb., 22 yo spinner from Porto Allegre-body 9, face 7.5 c-cup. She works for 3 months then spends two months at home then works again for 3 months. All of the girls told me something like this, and after the fact, I realized it must have something to do with EU visa entry requirements and length of stay limitations. By the way, Brazilians are not allowed in Switzerland without a special visa, so these girls are smuggled across the Swiss/Italian border. At first I was not that interested in Racquel, however, after chatting her up for a few minutes, I realized that she was fun and a little crazy in the head (translates to crazy in the bed). We chatted for a while and headed to the room, she was really excited to talk with someone who spoke some Portuguese). The session was outstanding. She gave a top 5 BBBJ (could really use her tongue) and had those 21 yo firm breasts can’t be surgically replicated. She fucked like a champ for those of you who really like the energetic types. She told me that she was formerly married to rich kid from Sao Paulo who had a trust fund, a cocaine problem, and a habit of beating her. I asked her why she did not get some form of alimony or divorce payment and she got a stern look on her face and said in Portuguese “I don’t want his money!” I was thankful that she was satisfied to earn mine instead! Afterwards she said that she was done working for the evening and whipped out a huge bag of pot and rolled the tightest little pinner joint I have ever seen. She said it was Swiss pot, and after smoking it I was chapado (stoned) and the drive back to my hotel (raining, negotiating traffic circles, not 100% sure where I was going) was really nerve racking – I have not smoked pot in months and I could only imagine the consequences for driving high in Switzerland. Needless to say Swiss weed is decent. The next night I stopped by Bar Oceano again and this time picked Michelle, a 21 yo 5’3” loira spinner from Goias, 10 face, 9 body. She was easily the hottest girl working in Bar Oceano. She said that she worked at Barbarella in Rio for a few months, met some gringo from LA who sent her $2-3 K per month and when she failed to get a student visa, he stopped sending money. She tried to give me a CBJ, however, I politely objected and she was very nice about it, said no problem, you give me a little bit more $$. BBBJ nothing to write home about. Sex was great with her, she said that she had an orgasm. The only thing I did not like was that she was throwing out all this “Fuck me hard baby” and “I likee your big cock” business…I guess that coupled with the attempted CBJ is what you get when they are trained at Barbarella. She spoke great English even though I kept telling her that I wanted to speak Portuguese. Afterwards, she told me that her father was killed in a car crash when she was 17 and that she sent money home every month: her mother did not work, she paid for her little brother’s private school, and she supplemented her older brother’s income (because “he not havey too moch mohney”). I thought to myself that I was happy to have contributed to her mother’s early retirement, her little brother’s education (maybe he’ll be the next Lula) and those few extra Skols for her older brother. They thought she was a waitress in Milan…she said that she averaged 7-8 sessions per day and that the one thing she liked about Barbarella was the fact that there was only one man per night. I suspect that the extra $500 per day probably made it worth her while, though…

Iceberg Disco

I went in on a Saturday night. There is a 10 CHF entry fee. There were 20 girls working, ranging from 4-6. The club is located next door to Bar Oceano. I did not session.

Lugano comes highly recommended, Italian food/cars/style/architecture, Swiss scenery/wealth/hospitality/cleanliness, and Brazilian beauty/enthusiasm/sexual skills all in one place. And while Switzerland can be expensive, the sessions are not and with the exchange rate at .82 CHF for one dollar, it is way less expensive than western Europe. Considering that my flight was only $450, I spent about the same amount or less than I would have if I had visited Brazil. While it is still not the mongering location that Rio is, it is a fun change of pace recommended for anyone wanting some third world loving coupled with first world accommodations.

(Message edited by Copabrasil1 on November 25, 2006)

Copa, you get .82 Swiss Francs for the US Dollar? I think you mean the other way around. Irregardless, that is fairly close to 1:1 and that is too rich for a mongering-only destination IMO. I'd be interested in hearing about the actual living costs like hotel, transportation and restaurant meals.

The thing about Rio high-end termas (like 4x4) are the facilities and amenities -- dry-saunas, wet-saunas, relax-room, massage, etc. Clean towels and sheets. It is a very controlled and most of the girls are fairly low-volume (2 - 3 guys a shift). I feel perfectly safe and comfortable in the places.

What you describe are apartment-style termas/clubs which can also be found in Rio, having quality girls as well but certainly not at the higher-end prices. We've all seen these places and they are usually less than 100R a session.

Girls doing 7-8 guys a shift. Beers at 14 CHF ($12). Nothing comes close to that Rio (even at Centaurus). I wasn't there, so only yourself can comment. But are you really comparing apples to apples here?

Granted, airfare these days to Rio are no less than $700. But, I could not imagine hotels going for anything less than $100 in Lugano, which is my living costs budget in Rio. All the other things have to be as expensive or more than a metro U.S. city. How could going to Switzerland be the same or cheaper than Rio?

Nice report, it's good to hear of these lesser known places. BTW how much were the Bar Oceano sessions?

same here. i agree nice report of place that didnt even cross my mind.

hei copabrasil1,,,,

what made you land in swits ar land ??

western europe, has to be very expensive to
monger...
you mentioned that you saw few romanians girls,
how did they look ?

happy monger,,,

Copa. Do you know what the closest skiing is? I think St. Moritz is a few hours away, not sure if anything is closer. A European ski trip with the possibility of sneaking off for some Brazilian lovin' might be pretty nice

Cincoleche-

When I was there it was approximately 1.18 swiss francs for every 1 dollar. Compared to 1.28 dollars for every one euro, that is a good exchange rate. I don't consider 4X4 a high end termas...on a facilities level 4X4 ranks at the bottom of the first division termas as far as cleanliness and quality of locker rooms and facilities. Also, without looking up all of the prices, I believe that 4x4 is also one of the least expensive termas (even though Cat recently reported that they just raised their prices).

As far as flying goes, I fly from the west coast. If you are flying the same airline on the dates you want to go and also purchasing tickets with the idea that you are maximizing your frequent flyer status, tickets to GIG are running anywhere from $1100 to $1300 with taxes included. Now, it is possible to purchase consolidator fares for $700 (probably before taxes) from the west coast, but I don't think it is worth the discount. (On AA, I can purchase the lowest economy fare, select emergency exit row seats online, upgrade on the domestic leg, and have the option to pay an additional $250 plus 25,000 miles to upgrade to business class for the entire flight if I want when I arrive at the airport...plus I can scoot right through all of the first class lines where possible...)

I had a three star hotel for $81 per night in Lugano...add all that up and the price is pretty competitive, however, make no mistake about it, Rio is way more fun from a mongering standpoint.

Bigpoppa - Bar Oceano sessions are 150 CHF.

THM-The romanian girls were ok, not fkk quality. In the lakeside clip joints they were top notch.

Knockneedman-St. Moritz is quite a distance, something like 3 hours or more in winter because there is no direct highway. I have only visited during non-ski season...however, good skiing is available within an hours drive. I think you might be able to ski from Locarno which is about 27 km away.

Very interesting!!

Maybe I should leave Rio for a sex tourism trip to Milano???

It seems that prices are similar as prices in Rio. So how do these girls make more money then in Rio???

And Switzerland tolerates illegal Brazilian aliens to work in brothels, and them being smuggled over the boarder??

Strange. I thought Switzerland has their act together

Sessions are 1 hour long? Do you need a car to do these places? No entrance fee? Might have to consider Lugano next time I'm in the area. Thanks.

Soccer-you don't need a car, programs are as long as you can negotiate.

BS-The girls said they were drove across the border with a Swiss citizen in a swiss car. The reason they make more money is because they get to keep most of it. When you compare the price of a Termas visit, you have to factor in the entrance fee and the cabine fee...in CH they pocket 100% after their rent for the night is paid.

hi !
when you have entered an eu country or a country that signed the scheengen deal.you have gained entry to almost every european country.im fairly sure that switzerland,they signed the deal so they hardly check any passports anymore.

They check passports, they are not part of the EU. You get your passport checked everytime. I have driven in 3 times now and it has been checked 3 times. The most lax border crossing is definitely from Italy, though...