I have had a few requests from members asking me to give some detail about Adult Friend Finder (AFF) and meeting “good girls” (non-pay for play) in Asia. I do not profess to be an expert but will try to convey some of my experiences here.

1. AFF

Thailand – I have had a reasonable success rate in Thailand, I have met 5 girls and 5 couples. My experience with single girls, both that I have met and corresponded with is that they are either working girls trying to get guys through the site or really are looking for a permanent boyfriend, husband or sponsor. They are not looking for sex and sex only. However, 2 of the girls I actually met were genuinely after just a good time, both I hasten to add were wealthy, far more than me! The couples I have met have been fantastic, one of the women would be in my top 5 of all time, two were solid 9s and the others good 8s. One was actually Australian, the rest Thai. My rating for AFF in Thailand would be 7/10.

Malaysia – I did put reasonable effort into Malaysia, but only had 3 reasonable replies all of which were consummated, all single girls. The quality here though was not as good as Thailand, nor the sex so great. Score here 3/10.

Singapore – I have not specifically targeted Singapore, but have sent the odd mail and also had over 10 unsolicited mails 5 from couples, 5 from singles. I have unfortunately only been able to follow up on 1 of these, but the quality was very high and I regret not being there more. Score 7/10.

Philipines – I have put out 5 mails to the Philippines with an 80% success rate, but the girls here are gold diggers or wanting a husband. If that is what u want there are some stunning girls out there, one I corresponded with, but did not take up because she wanted a husband was a solid 9.75. Score 4/10.

Indonesia – What do I say, Indonesia is “the place” for this type of thing. Nearly every girl I met was on AFF and one or more of the other sites or knew of themt, its like a national pastime. My stats for here are, I put out 173 mails with 68 replies, 58 of which were positive, 25 from couples and 32 from single girls. I have met up with 13 couples and 15 single girls from this list, just not having time to meet more, despite texts asking me why I have not rung. I have also had a few dozen unsolicited mails and met with 5 couples and 8 girls through this. I admit I have even had 8 mails from gay guys, some of which were quite disgusting! The people I have met have all been nice, a good percentage of them middle to upper class, most being very proficient in English. In terms of looks it is varied, some of the girls I have had would not score highly on this board, saying that some were real finds. In terms of performance, well my worse session was an 8+, Indonesian girls as I have said before are some of the randiest in the world. The only real downside I have found is that most want to come back for more and its difficult saying no when there are so many to do! Score 10/10

Others – I have not sent mails to any other destination but have had mails from Cambodia, US and Australia only one I have met up with a couple who travelled to Jakarta!

Having been on the AFF scene and talked to many people on the board I can say that it is well worth paying your subscription and investing your time investigating AFF in Indonesia, probably Singapore or Thailand as well, but for sure Indonesia. Especially if you are there for any length of time. Actually, once you meet a few people you will be introduced to others, the scene is so vibrant.

My tips would be:-

1. Put up some good photos, I had very few replies, before I put up photos.
2. If you want single girls, take the option to let them send mails u, many are standard members.
3. Make your profile interesting and not too short.
4. Read what their ad. is asking for and try to show how you can meet their needs in your reply.
5. Always send some photos when you reply.
6. Get to chat with them on Yahoo or Messenger you can really warm them up on that and have fun too.
7. Reply promptly to mails and sell yourself, but do not sound to pompous or tell lies.

2. Other Dating Sites

There are numerous other dating sites like friendster and Alt. I know many of the girls in Jakarta are on more than one site, it just opens your options. I have never tried these as I cannot keep up with AFF let alone these

3. Other Places for Non-Working Girls in Asia

I have only picked up non-working girls in Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

Discos have been my primary source, here the rule is you need to dance, girls love men that dance, in Asia this seems to be even more pronounced. My tips would be dress well, learn to dance and enjoy it and do not be tight, you may need to buy a drink or two, even for there friends.

Malls are a rich source of good talent, girls in the shops especially in Thailand and Indonesia. I have dated a few, very nice shop assistants. Just make some idle chit chat, do not look to scruffy and be polite. Try to drop a few hints you like them, if they nibble the bait pursue a little harder. You will be surprised how many will come out with you. A word of caution you may have to have a few dates before you score the jackpot though!

Hotels and bars are a good source if you frequent them fairly regularly. I have dated a few hotel staff after getting to know them over a few days or weeks. I had one particular beauty in Malaysia, it took three weeks, but by the time we dated she was as horny as hell.

There are of course other places to score, last year I started a course of dentistry and dated my dentist who was I stress female and very beautiful too! Again it took 5 dates before I scored but by the time we got there she was so up for it we did not sleep. However, when I finished it, I had to change my dentist, the risks in the chair were just too high!

One word of caution, some of these girls can get serious, so make sure u tell them you are not looking for a long term thing - be honest. Even being honest, I have had a few tearful ladies and even one stalker!

Happy hunting!

You meet couples? How does that go? Do you fuck the girl while the guy watches or you tage team her? Sounds odd.

Blazers,

The setup with couples is not as straightforward as you might think.

Firstly, many of the couples I have met are not “real couples” but couples that just play together, this is common in Jakarta. So married or partner does not necessarily mean married or even they live together, just play together. I have seen quite a few of the girls I have met through “couples” dating on my own afterwards, every time at their request and to be honest these have been some of my best dates in terms of performance. I have also got to know some of the guys and on more than occasion have been invited to parties or get togethers by them. One example – I was in Tiga Puluh (30’s) and a guy I met some weeks before “as a couple” came up and said he had two girls, both fancied going upstairs to party and they wanted me to come. So that’s exactly what happened and it was dammed good. This is common in Jakarta.

Secondly, the scenarios are so varied. A guy might not watch at all, just sit in the living room while I am in the bed, others just watch and with others it is full on participation, two holes, three holes some really wild stuff.

Do not think the women are all gross either, some of best looking women with the hottest bodies I have met this way, four or five that come to mind were real stunners! The performance is superb too, some of the best sex I have had has come through this way. The mix of people you meet to is amazing, many are bule male, local female, some Indo, Indo, but I have had Japanese, Australian, UK, Philippino even one Brazilian.

Some of the sessions with the all Indonesian couples have been funny, one guy could not believe that I could go for more than 15 minutes without cumming or getting tired, no wonder there partners like these sessions so much! I got a stream of unbelievable e-mails after saying how amazed he was and how much they wanted to repeat.

There are some strange request though, I had one were the woman wanted to have a “Bule Baby” despite being supposedly happily married!

The last thing is there is a very vibrant “swinging scene” in Jakarta and Bali so there’s another opening there.

I missed on one other source of talent, which sort of borders on the “good girl/bad girl borders. It is quite possible to date the girls in the supposedly good spas. I have had success with two. Again, it took a lot of work and effort, the one pictured here took me 5 massages in 8 days before I cracked it and she spoke zero English, but persistence, my alpha-link translator and maybe some English Charm worked in the end. Worth it though, she is so beautiful!

Photos: Beautiful Massage Girl 77 78

I am limited to what I can post here because of the circumstanses and rules of the site, but these pics will give you some idea of the girls on AFF.



Photos: AFF 79 80

And some more




Photos: AFF White 81 82

Photos: AFF Fishnet 83 84

And more

Photos: AFF Fishnet 85 86 87 88 89

Photos: AFF 90 91 92 93 94

All these girls are from Jakarta except one and she is from Bali, all from AFF. The selection in Indonesia is pretty fantastic, its unlike anywhere else I have been. There are not many places you could meet and take home models or actresses or such like,there is even a virgin in these photos (easy to spot).

WW, thank you so much for posting your insights and pics, love the pics! Espec. the gal in the fishnet stockings. You should get commission for all the new members you're going to sign up on AFF. I also got an alpha link translator and really find it useful. It also appears there's potential to meet gals in malls and other public areas. Atrium mall seemed to have some potential. Thanks again, and I'll keep you posted. Merl.

good set of photos.
interesting facts that are very usefull.

Merl,

The girl in the fishnet stockings was hot, a little on the big side but not fat. She is a glamour model and very, very horny. Only the strong should take her on, she liked session after session and hard and fast. If you like a good workout and lose calories she is a good choice. I saw her twice, but because of trying to fit in so many dates did not contact her this trip. Saw her in 30's and she gave me a right telling off for not seeing her, so I am out of favour now!

Actually indirectly this raises an interesting point. I have seen a few AFF girls in the up market pick up places like 30's, Bats and CJ's, so I am sure they are plying for cash on the side too.

As for the malls in Indo. you can see working girls in most malls and of course try your hand at the "good-girls" working and shopping there

What is an "alpha link translator"? Neither a search on this site nor on Google turns up any info.

The obvious virgin - that would be the gal with the black square blocking her pussy?!

"alpha link translator" is a small computer much like an PDA that translates lots of languages. They are sold in S.E. Asia not sure about anywhere else. Mine does Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Indonesian, Vietnamese, German, French and Spanish, not forgetting English. You can "cross translate" across any of these languages and it is displayed visually and spoken. You can buy different combinations of languages and they cost around $100 US.

And you are wrong about the virgin for sure!!!!!!!!

The translator is made by an Indo company and I've not seen it being sold outside of Indonesia (got mine at the Manga Dua Square Mall). It's small enough to take w/you everywhere, and the spoken word translations are instantaneously and can be heard over the blaring disco music or over the phone. You can actually have somewhat of a conversation w/it. The Spanish portion comes in real handy in Latin America as well.

WW: Interestingly, I was at CJ's one time and then carpooled over to Stadium after 2am, seems like a bunch of South Jakarta freelancers continue plying their wares after the closures of the upscale venues.

(Message edited by merlin on December 08, 2006)

I'm trying to learn Thai and would love to find a audio translator. Any way to find this alpha link on the i net.

Oops, we were spelling it wrong, correct spelling is "alfalink". Lots of hits. Sorry Hombres.

WW.,

Like your success reports from AFF and the other people you meet along the way!

One up for you Brits!

Yes, patience does help in this game you play. Not sure if many of the mongers on this board have the time and gumption if they are on short trips with a limited budget. But, you have demonstrated that success given the right method is possible. Kudos to you!

On dancing, you are right and Sandman affirms that too. I have since you dance and you do put many of us to shame!

C.

Here is the link: http://www.alfalink.co.id/

RG.

There is also the USA Website: www.alfalinkusa.com

Thanks much for this.
I go to a lot of off-the-beaten-path places in SEA, gives quite a different perspective than one would get from city or resort hopping. Unfortunately I’m little too gray to be considered in the running in the romance department (hello papaaahhh!), I guess I could dye my hair or do the Uncle Fester thing (which seems to be the acceptable fashion) to look more youthful but can’t be bothered. One Indonesian girl I was talking with asked if I was traveling with my son :^( Well, I guess that was a partial complement. Otherwise I’d love to do what you’ve been doing.

Dolly, the red-light area of Surabaya is my favorite whoring venue outside of Latin America. You can get a hell of an inspired session. Predominately Muslim country that it is, they are pretty loose with the rules; alcohol is available everywhere, in the same way certain illegal substances can be found anywhere in the US, for example. I’ve been in real hillbilly areas where everyone was Muslim and there would always be moonshine, and one place where the older women went around topless (talk about milk duds!). Despite what you may be led to believe in the media regarding religious fanaticism, be assured that, normally, most of the population is too laid back to give a shit, but unfortunately they can be incited to anything by the troublemakers who go around the country doing just that.

I’m surprised you didn’t get more responses from Malaysia. That country is my big lament. I was once on an island there, 90% bule tourists, and did a snorkeling trip. All the customers on the boat were foreigners, or so I thought. There was one gal wearing a body stocking (those things dancers wear that look like one-piece bathing suits), spoke English like an American, dark skinned, and had ass like Jennifer Lopez: and my attention as well! I figured she was Latin, probably Dominican, born in US. My jaw must have dropped when I learned she was Malay! Definitely some Afro in that gene pool! If not for all the Muslim repression, I think Malaysia could be a popazuda capital of the world on par with Brazil, and I have the feeling they’d be good in the sack. It’s kind of weird: they wear the headscarves for “modesty” but almost all wear lipstick, and I’ve seen some tight-assed pants that have haunted my dreams. Then there’s those kewpie-doll faces with full lips and big eyes. And they always smile at me, like the country girls in Thailand. Sigh…
But it’s off limits: they really do lock you up there if a Muslim woman is involved. And the locals will inform on you, none of the lackadaisical attitude of Indonesia.

On the other hand there is Kuala Lumpur, where there is more freedom for those who seek it, though that seems to be strictly for non-Muslims as well. And it seems the ones living the more liberal lifestyles are the ethnic Chinese. I can’t tell you how many lesbian couples I’ve met who are KL Chinese, and they’ve always been friendly to me. There is a lot of Asian-Caucasian dating in KL, and from people I’ve talked to it comes off like boyfriend-girlfriend relationships in Europe or North America, as opposed to those situations where the white foreigner’s money is a factor (which seems the predominate case elsewhere in this part of the world). Even I’ve had women flirt with me in KL! All were middle-aged, middle-class, and Chinese. I’ve got no problem with age as long as they still look good.

Another surprising thing is how few gay responses you got in Indonesia. Just about every middle-aged male foreigner I meet traveling alone through that country is gay, and they do not want for companionship. It must be pretty common, because even in out-of-the-way places I’d get lads calling out “HelloMisterMassage?” with smiles bigger than the grille of a ’59 Cadillac. No shortage of old dudes (usually German) traveling with their “guides.” Gets pretty fucking creepy after a while. In public internet places it’s a good bet that the lad on the next computer will be looking at either football (soccer) stuff or male pornography, usually both. For aging fags that place must be as close to heaven as they’ll get. I met one Swiss poof staying in the same guesthouse who complained about how they all want money. heh-heh! Anyway, with all this in mind, I would be leery of hooking up with couples.

On a totally different matter, when I travel around Thailand I sometimes end up in places over-run by backpackers. It’s something I try to avoid. In that crowd it’s not all that uncommon to find a farang girl with a Thai boy. The girl usually isn’t overweight or ugly as you might expect, just a gal out traveling, but the Thai lad will ALWAYS have long hair and a smile as big as the Indonesian hustlers mentioned above. I know they get $ off the girls, and I’d bet it’s the tried and true variations on the sick buffalo/mother/father/etc that we hear from the Thai girls. Funny part is the girls don’t consider it prostitution (“I’m helping him out because he and his family are poor”) and find the whole concept of guys coming to Thailand to have sex utterly disgusting. uuhhhh…
I wonder how many of these couplings originate on the net.