By Tobruk on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 08:50 pm: Edit |
10 Days in Manila
Because I’m extremely lazy I decide to use the hotel’s car ride back to Manila. This is the way to go, yeah it costs another 2400 peso but they say they will take me right to my hotel and ask what time I want to leave. So I’m sold and tell them I’ll leave at 11:00. So at 11:00 the car shows up and off to Manila I head.
I’m staying at Oxford Suites Hotel, which is right in the middle of the action on Burgoss street. I booked this through asiarooms.com. The price was about half of what I could get directly from the hotel. I had decided that since I would be meeting my cam girl that I have been talking to for the last 9 months and I am very serious about her that I would spurge and get a Junior Suite for 3400 peso/night (I see they have since raised it to 5000 peso). The room was very large and had about 40 feet of window that gave me an almost complete 180-degree view of Burgoss Street. It was now about 2:00 and I decided to go get some lunch. While I was eating, my cam girl and her 2 cousins show up. So they sit down with me and order some ice tea. We try talking abit but you can tell we are all nervous and at times it’s a bit awkward. When done they come up to my room to see it and we decide to go to the mall. I buy her some perfume at the mall and we wonder around abit killing time. When we are done we come back to the hotel and up to the room. We talk abit and decide I will meet her family the next day. They then leave and say they will be back the next morning.
Photos: Cam Girl 15 16 17
It’s now about 7:00pm so I have a quick shower and decide to check out the action on my front door step. I stop for a bite to eat then hit the bars. The first bar I hit was Banditos and I was the only guy in the place. There was a couple of decent looking dancers but I wasn’t in a big hurry on my first night. After about ½ hour a couple of other guys come in and sit down. They didn’t stay long (15 min). As soon as they left a couple of girls decided that they would come sit with me and not 2 mins after that the waitress was over asking if I would like to buy them a drink. Well they weren’t really my type and I just didn’t want to blow 600 peso buying drinks for girls I didn’t like, (especially after leaving AC where 600 got you short time) so I said I was just leaving and finished my drink and left.
I head down the street to the flamingo. Inside it is very busy but still has lots of girls on stage so I find a seat and sit down. Almost directly in front of me I see a table with 3 guys and 6 girls. The guys are buying drinks like the world is coming to an end, and the girls are having a great time. Every so often 2 of the girls at the table would get up and dance on the stage, which was right beside the table. These two girls were awesome dancers and both were quite cute. I decide to stay and see what happens at this table. I am thinking these two girls are at the table but none of the guys are actually beside them and they keep getting up and dancing. After about 1-1 ½ hours the guys get their bills and start making their way out. But they are each only taking 1 girl and neither of these two girls gets picked up. So as soon as the guys leave these 2 girls hop back on stage and start dancing up a storm, (I was getting wood just watching them dance). When the waitress comes around I tell her I would like to buy the one a drink. So she calls her down for me and goes and gets a drink. Before the waitress gets back her friend is sitting with us so I break down and buy her a drink also. We talk abit then I ask the cute one if she would like to barfine, at which time she tells me she is menstruating! Well this is just great I’ve been sitting here half the friggin night for this girl and now it ain’t going to happen. She tells me she will barfine but only BJ. I tell her that I’m afraid that isn’t enough for me now (I was way to horny and also to cheap to pay 2250bf plus tip for a BJ). So I say No. So now I’m trying to decide if they just don’t want to BF or if I just have terribly unlucky timing. When getting ready to leave she tells me to try back in 4 days. Now I’m really happy coz this chick is a 10 on the Tobruk scale. It’s now getting late so I decide to head home alone tonight.
Jan 23
Today I meet my cam girl’s family. When cam girl and her cousin show up about 1 hour late. We jump in a taxi and head back to her place to meet the family. Their place consists of 1 room about 15ft wide and 20ft long with a small bathroom attached, that is it. There is 4 of them living here! We then go to her cousins place about 5 min walk and it has two rooms and a bathroom. I spend most of the day between these two places meeting just about everyone in the greater Manila area. I have to stay late coz her dad and an uncle are out doing something and won’t be back till late. When they FINALLY arrive we meet and not long after, he asks me what my intentions are with his daughter (by the way she’s 19). Well I’m not sure what to say but mutter out I like to spend some time with her and see what happens. (If things would of went really good I was actually thinking about EVENTUALLY looking at marriage, but that commitment wasn’t coming on day 2). So when I finally get back to the hotel it is after 11:00 and I decide it’s too late for barhopping, plus I am suppose to get up early tomorrow coz cam girl is going to be here early.
Jan 24
Well cam girl and her cousin show up 2 hours late! They did want to go to Tagatay to meet a cousin but I said we didn’t have enough time. I was planning on going to Boracay the next day and needed to book a flight and hotel. So off to the mall to book the trip. I was already getting bad feelings about cam girl coz she just never seemed that interested in me. The previous day she hardly ever sat beside me and my good night kiss was similar to something you would give your grandma. But I had promised her this trip a long time ago when we were chatting and I really wanted to go myself and I knew a second person would not add a lot of cost to the trip. I also figured if I got her alone for abit then maybe things would be different.
Jan 25
Get up early and travel to boracay. We flew Phil airlines (2 people, 12,000 peso). The flight landed on the island beside boracay (poss. caticlan), so then we had to take a bus ride for an hour to get to the ferry that takes you across to boracay. When we finally arrived at the hotel (Boracay Gold Crown Club 10,000 peso 3 days/2 nights). It was about 3:00pm.
I had looked at booking the trip through the travel agent at home here but a couple of guys on this board recommended I wait till I got to the Philippines. It turned out to be very good advice coz it cost about 1/3 of the amount I was quoted back home!!
The room we stayed in was not very fancy, actually even abit run down but it was right on the beach and you could sit on the deck and watch the sun go down. The room # was C1 and I would definitely stay there again just for the view.
Jan 26
Things are not going well with my cam girl! She barely talks to me and last night when she finally came to bed she built a wall of pillows around her that would of stopped Hitler’s invasion of Europe in its tracks. I have decided to call this a lesson learned and write off anything ever happening with cam girl.
I met this girl before I became a member of this board. Of course shortly after meeting her I’m in love and she needs some money for a family emergency (yeah I know sick water buffalo). So not knowing any better I send some money. Next thing you know she needs some more. You can imagine my horror when I stumble across this board and start reading about these cam girls and how they can have 5-100 different guys that they are in love with and really need some money. So now I put the brakes on the send me cash thing, but she continues talking and introduces me to family and friends and tells me how much she loves me and how she can’t wait for January. But every once and awhile she put out the I need money or its my birthday, or Xmas what you get me for gift? So looking back I would tell other newbies like me if your web girl/chat mate asks you for money----RUN!!
When I was at her place I saw her open up her YM and she had 3 pages of contacts on it. Possibly you’re on it. That’s the only reason I put her picture up. Like I say nothing even came close to happening with her. Although I guess figuratively I did get F------. I hope it doesn’t happen to you.
Jan 27
Today we leave at noon for Manila so we do some shopping and I let her buy some souvenirs for her family/friends. If you were in Boracay at the time you would of easily spotted me coz I was the guy walking beside a very cute girl and I had a terrible look of agony on my face coz absolutely nothing was happening with this girl and I could not wait to get back to Manila to get rid of her. Here I was in paradise thinking I should have brought my proven Honey Ko from AC with me. Lesson Learned- never take any trips with a girl you barley know.
When we got back to Manila we each went our separate ways at the airport. I get back to the hotel unpack and head out for the night. I went to a couple of bars like Mascara and some others around that area. Each one I went to you would walk in and sit down and almost immediately there would be 3-8 girls sitting there with you and 2 seconds later the waitress would ask “ would like to buy the ladies a drink”, (well let me see 8 girls x 300peso drinks that’s 2400 peso for nothing. I was missing AC a lot). So I would just answer, I’m still looking and just get a drink for myself. Funny coincidence all these bars were empty of guys, (I think with less lady drink pressure guys might actually stay at the bar for more than 1 drink).
I went into a bar called Tickles, sat down and of course quickly had 10 girls at the table. They filtered away fairly quickly when I told the waitress still looking and only drink for me. After awhile I asked the waitress what the BF was here, and she said they don’t have BF here. I wasn’t sure how this worked so I finally called down a dancer and bought her a drink. I asked her if she would like to come back with me but she said not Tonight. Then quickly said if I tip her she would come after work (4am). Now I’m thinking there’s no way I’m going to give you money and hope you show up later. But she said give me 100 peso. Well I figured 100 peso wouldn’t break me and maybe she would show up. But I did seriously doubt she would show.
At one point I was walking between bars dreading going into another bar and getting hit up for another 8 lady drinks. I spotted a girl standing on the corner she was kind of cute so I stopped and talked for abit. She quoted 1100 for ST so back to the hotel we went. Well she stayed till 2am then left. I went to sleep and wasn’t too surprised when I woke up in the morning with no girl from Tickles there. I’m still not sure what the no BF story was. I’m thinking maybe the police where hassling them or something.
Photos: Celine 18 19 20 21
Jan 28
Went to Harrison Mall today. Did some shopping and checked out the freelance opportunity. Had a couple of girls approach but nothing that really turned my fancy a bunch.
When Cam Girl and I where in Boracay I had told her we should have dinner one night with a couple of her friends that I had met online. So she had text'd them and set it up for tonight at 6:00 I was really torn whether I should try to call it off or just not show up, but finally I decided the decent thing to do would be to show up and suffer through supper. They were supposed to show up at 6:00 but they never came till 7:00 (do they not know how to tell time over there??). We ate supper then they came up to the room to see the room and sat down and talked for about 1 hour. All this time I’m looking at my watch dying for them to leave. Of course they are talking mostly in Tagalog so I don’t understand a word they are saying. At the end one of them asks cam girl if she is going to stay with me at the hotel which cam girl says something in Tagalog. Of course at this point I have no interest in cam girl and know that her staying would not be a good idea. Thankfully she leaves with the rest of them, and I head out to the bars.
I stop at the Matrix bar/restaurant for a drink and to watch the action on the street. This very petite girl walks into the restaurant and sits at a table behind me. Of course I keep looking her way and eventually she comes over and sits down with me. We talk for abit and she quotes 2000 peso for all night. I am in love with her body so back to the hotel.
Photos: Dianna 22 23
Like I say I really like the petites and she’s 4’11 and 80lbs, so I’m in heaven and the first session is fairly quick. As we are lying in bed she gets up and starts looking out the window like a caged animal dying to get back to the wild. She comes back to bed lies down then asks if she has to stay the night!! F---- I think to myself a girl who I really am enjoying and she wants to run. Well I figure if I force her to stay the quality is probably going to go down hill big time, so I say if you leave now I give you 600peso but if you stay till morning I give you 2,000 peso. I’m figuring this will make her want to stay and I’ll still get some good lovin. Well she lies in bed for a while then gets up and goes for a shower. Great!!, so I get up open the safe pull out 600 peso and leave it on the desk. When she comes out fully dressed she sits on the bed for about 5 min not saying anything. Finally she asks if I can make it 1,000 peso. Of course I say NOOOOOOO. So she grabs the 600 and goes storming out of the room. I got thinking later about this and figure for her it is straight math and she knows if she gets back on the street she can find someone else and get another 2,000 peso. So looking back I should of just said YES you stay all night.
Jan 29
I went to another mall today and wondered around aimlessly. There really doesn’t seem to be anything happening during the day. At least not what I could see but I didn’t look too hard. If anyone knows of some place I would sure like to hear about it. Coz walking the malls gets boring very fast.
Tonight I go back to Flamingos my favourite bar on Burgos Street to see if my little miss menstruation is there. Well of course I don’t see her. Her friend comes over and tells me that it is her night off. (I suspect she was already barfined). So I look around and her friend is probably one of my next top 2 choices in the bar. So since she is sitting here beside me I decide I’ll try her out. When she comes back in her street clothes I see that she is also very short and petite. (She had very high heels on before). As we are doing the walk of shame back to the hotel she tells me she is 4’10. Now I’m starting to get wood. Back in the room I snap a couple of pics of her then she takes pulls out a camera and takes a pic of me! Maybe there’s a Miss Hombre site!! Next she goes for a shower and I tell her I’ll join her shortly. When she leaves I start jumping up and down with excitement coz she’s looking good. Into the shower I go and she is tiny!! She rubs up against me a couple of times and gives me a bit of a HJ. All this time I’m thinking I’m going to tear you apart. When we get to the bed she starts on top, which is what I call my defensive position coz I really really need to be horny before I’ll cum in that position. She goes for about 5 min then tells me to take the top. Well me on top is the opposite of my defensive position and I probably only lasted about 2 min before I popped. DAMMMM that was way to quick but she was just so tiny.
We talked for abet and then drifted off to sleep. At about 3:30am her phone rings. She starts talking then gets up and goes to the bathroom. I could tell she was talking to a guy. When she comes back she asks me if I want her to explain. Of course I could care less and tell her not to bother, which I think only makes her want to explain more. So she starts telling me that was a boyfriend who says he’s coming in Feb. So I think to myself maybe he’s coming in Feb but I’ll be cumming in about 30 min and hop on top of her. Hey she woke me up and then had to tell me this long story about her BF. Really I DON’T care I’m just looking for some fun tonight. Thankfully I was able to last a lot longer this time. When we were done she asks if she can leave to go get her clothes from the bar before it closes at 5. I’m happy now so I say sure and send her on her merry way.
Photos: Flamigo 24 25
Jan 30
Another day at the mall. This time it is SM mall of Asia. I would say it is the fanciest malls in town with the most expensive stores in it. Not some place you would really like to take a new date. But it was close to EDSA and I figured I had better check out some other places. So about 7 or 8 I grab a taxi over to EDSA, of course the driver has a place that is much cheaper and better women. I say no .Its EDSA I know. Others on the board have been there and it’s a proven area. If I had more time I might of got his number and seen where he took me, but not tonight.
My first stop is Firehouse, only me and 4 other guys there. The mommasan comes over and sits down beside me and starts talking. She tells me she has another shift of girls coming on in about 10 min and thinks she has one that I would really like. So I decide to stick around. We keep talking and I’m actually enjoying her company. When the next shift comes out I quickly see whom she is talking about, but she is a little tall for my liking. I continue to watch but decide I will look around abit more (one thing I was really finding hard to do. At AC I almost never walked out of a bar without a BF, hence why I only saw like 4 bars in AC. So I was trying my hardest to look around abit without BF the first girl I saw). Well someone else helped me out there coz that girl was pulled down shortly after that. I should of known she wouldn’t last long. Funny thing was I was actually more attracted to the mommasan she was quite attractive and skinny and dressed in a business type suit, but I figured the chances of BF the momma at 7-8pm was unlikely at best.
My next stop was over to bullets/arrows??. I wasn’t there too long before a couple of gals sat beside me. One wasn’t too bad looking but I didn’t buy any drinks. After a short bit the not bad looking one had to go dance. Up on stage she kept looking at me and smiling and giving me the why you not pull me off stage and buy me drink look. (I’m sure you all have seen that look before!!). Well I kept looking over the selection and there was 1 or maybe 2 girls who I thought were better looking but it looked like they both had attitudes coz they both would just stand there and look at their nails. So remembering what a couple of the master Jedi’s had said on this board, -- “look for the right attitude” -- I decided to pull miss smiley off the stage, boy was she happy when I did. When she sat down she was very friendly and also touchy feely so I figured she would probably be a good bet for tonight. After paying her BF 1,000 and agreeing on 2,000 tip, I told her I would like to check out a couple more of the bars here. We went to a couple, one was space dolls or something and another I don’t remember the name of. Neither one impressed me much as I never really saw too much I liked. So I was glad I had made my pick when I did.
Back at the hotel Mary-anne performed awesome and gave a great GFE. She stayed till the next morning. She also said she would spend part of the next day with me. So after breakfast we went -----to the mall (how did you guess). I had a great day with her and even decided to buy her a cheap jacket. When we got back to the hotel around 4pm I decided I would try to get another session in with her but she was not going to do that for me. She asked if I would come see her at her bar tonight. I said I would see, (thinking to myself maybe if you would have given me that late session, especially after I bought you the jacket but probably not now). So off she went.
Photos: Mary-Anne 26 27 28 29 30
I thought about what I should do on my last night in Manila. Should I go get Mary-Anne from EDSA again? I knew she was into me and would give a great performance. Or should I risk it and go see if little miss menstruation was back. I decided that little miss menstruation was just too hot for me to not try and pick-up so off I went nice and early.
When I walked in and sat down it was still early and only 5 or 6 guys were in the bar. The mommasan recognized me and came over and sat down. She said hello and said you like petite girls right? I said yes and she pointed out miss menstruation and another girl. I said I really like little miss menstruation. She asked if she should pull her down for me? It was still early and I was thinking maybe I should wait for a while, at which point 3 or 4 more guys walked in. I knew if I waited too long she would get pulled by someone else so I said grab her. Little miss menstruation came over and sat down and even said my name, so I knew she remembered me from before. Shortly after her friend who I had BF a couple of nights earlier came over and sat down with us. I bought them both drinks and we talked. Her friend knew I really liked miss menstruation. At one point she even told her I was a good lover (I know she probably says that to everyone) but I figured anything that helped me with miss menstruation was welcome. I was really hoping she wouldn’t say she was on menstruation still or again or some other excuse. When I finally popped the BF question she said sure and asked if I would like to take her friend too? I seriously thought about it but decided I wanted to give miss menstruation my UNDIVIDED attention. So she got up to change in her street clothes. Her friend sat with me for a while and even said she would try to come over to the hotel after work.
When she finished her drink she asked if it was ok if she got up and danced. She was probably on stage for about 30 seconds before a table full of guys pulled her off. When miss menstruation came back in her street clothes she looked sooo hot. We stayed there for a while and she would dance at the table every so often. I could tell she loved to dance and she was an incredible sexy dancer. One song she really liked and asked if it was ok if she danced on stage. That was fine with me. When she got on stage and started dancing, I noticed a table full of guys and 2 of the guys were pointing at her and talking to the waitress. I could tell she was telling them little miss menstruation was in street clothes and thus already BF. The look of disappointment on their faces was a sorry sight to say the least. I was sure glad I got her when I did coz she will never stick around that bar for long before getting pulled. When she asked if I was ready to go back to the hotel I told her I was ready 4 days ago. This girl was awesome and I was in love/lust. She is 4’11 and maybe 90 lbs.
Sorry for photo 5 but it was the first time I saw her without clothes and I think I just started vibrating uncontrollably, thus not being able to hold the damn camera still!!
I had a great night with her and she stayed till next morning. I had to catch my cab to the airport by 9, so I woke up at 7 and had another mind-blowing session with her. We then talked for about 45min. I was definitely in love and told her so many times. When I finally had to leave I told her she could stay in the room and go back to sleep till she was ready to leave. I hadn’t discussed a tip the night before because I would of paid what ever she asked. So I decided I would leave her 3500 peso (the standard being 2000) but in my mind she was worth even more than that. When I was carrying my bags to the door she followed me. Even though she was totally nude she started pulling my on my arm like she didn’t want me to leave, and believe me I did not want to leave one bit. I told her I had to go but I would return in October. She gave me her YM and told me to stay in touch and that she would wait for me. Walking out that door was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do! I am still in touch with her and she tells me she has quit working at the bar! (Maybe I’ll give Khun MOR a run for his money in having girls quit after we leave!!) But who knows, for all I know she still working and just hoping I ‘ll start sending money. But I will definitely try hooking up with her again. Maybe she can be my new cam girl!!
Off to the airport—next stop Macau!!
By Mongerx on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:29 pm: Edit |
I want to thank you for posting this excellenttrip report. Obviously, some things didn't work out the way you hoped. Maybe you will learn from these experiences. I wanted to write a whole bunch of responses to different aspects of your trips, but I decided against it. I will make a general comment. There seems to be a huge difference in the newbie TR to AC and Manila from a couple years ago than from today. It's amazing how many cherry trips involve "I have been chatting with a pinay on the web for some time and I planned this trip to meet her."
By Hunterman on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:04 am: Edit |
Thanks for a couple of good, honest reports. You see how valuable this club is, because you would have saved yourself money and emotional energy if you had found it sooner. Plus, Boracay would have been more memorable with a responsive honeyko along.
The PI is my favorite mongering place (although I see it is changing since I was last there a year ago). Your report brings back some of the sweet memories. I'm anxiously awaiting the pictures.
By Phoenixguy on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:09 am: Edit |
Well it definitely sounds like you've learned a lot about what, and especially what NOT to do to have a fun time in the Philippines. Sure didn't sound like you were having much fun in Manila those first few days. At least things did work out for you toward the end.
By the way - many gals do enjoy getting out and partying a bit. I'll bet that last gal who "loved to dance" would have enjoyed hitting a disco somewhere. It can be a real fun time, especially if it's cheap enough to bring an extra friend or two of hers along to party. If you're still chatting, you might want to ask her about where you two can go dancing when you get back to town.
By Blazers on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:39 pm: Edit |
This is a great report and I especially love the self deprecation and honesty. It looks like you were getting better sessions with the girls as your trip went on. Hopefully you have learned some lessons of this trip.
For those of you guys that are lonely or just recently divorced, the Philippines is the absolute wrong place to go. The culture is very duplicitous and girls whom may seem sweet are just a wolf in sheep's clothing. Secondly, let this be a lesson to all the PLM's who got to the Philippines because of a girl they met on a Chat site. Understand that cyberbegging is now a cottage industry in the Phils and no culture is so shameless about begging than Filipinos in the Phils. Chatsite girls are still working girls and much more manipulative because they have learned to manipulate over the net. Many guys need to stop making financial decisions with their pants around their ankles at their PC.
Again, no criticism to Tobruk, he obviously didnt read my guide or other reports before he went and had to learn by trial and error. This should be a real lesson for the new breed of mongers heading to Phils.
By Cooldude on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 04:01 pm: Edit |
thats a good one "Maybe there’s a Miss Hombre site"!! .....thanks for the report.
By Admin on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:17 am: Edit |
Photos 15-21 integrated
By Mystical on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 04:12 pm: Edit |
"KUDOS" from me also! Great reporting with a sense of humor ("Piss your Pants Laughter") Looking forward to the pic's of the "Honey Ko's"! Keep that trip in October, "on the front burner"! I'll be looking forward to it, while wearing a pair of NASA diapers!....:-)
By Baxter on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 09:34 pm: Edit |
Cam Girl is pretty cute, too damn bad she didn't put out, especially after all you went through. I guess we've all had our hits and misses in this game. I'll add my voice to the chorus of those who enjoyed your report.
By El_apodo on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:16 pm: Edit |
Thanks for the reports Tobruk. I enjoyed reading about your (mis)adventures.
EA
By Khun_mor on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 08:11 pm: Edit |
Tobruk
I also have to applaud your honesty and hand out kudos on an interesting report. I do have to admit I cringed when I read about your superhuman patience with Webcam girl. There is no way I would have ever hauled her ass to Boracay. What had your webchats with her lead you to believe would happen with her ?? Did she promise way more than she was willing to deliver or was she upfront about her shyness and unwillingness to provide anything physical ? If you are uncomfortable relating any more personal events I fully understand.
I still have two more webcam girls that are bugging me to hook up but both of them promise to rock my world. Just curious about what your expectations were.Too much free range pussy running around in AC to get tied down with a prior arrangement unless it's going to be freakin unbelievable !
By Tobruk on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 09:19 pm: Edit |
KM--When I talked to Webcam girl she had indicated she would be willing to stay overnight and rock my world, but when I was actually there it was a very different story indeed. When in Boracay I realized it wasn't worth pursuing. Since I have been home she has YM me once and says she loves me and sorry she was shy. When I told her I wasn't going to be sending any more money/gifts she quickly said "if you not trust me then I think we are through". I'm thinking Thank God! I haven't heard from her since.
By Admin on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:42 am: Edit |
Photos 22-36 integrated
By Mdwbkk on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 05:05 am: Edit |
Cool report brother thanks for the heads up, and never take any advice from a cab driver in mnl about p4p spots and yeah we all get hem up with some good looking honey just keep in mind the girl in the club is not willing to f**** leave lots of freelance pussy out there. hell you could have pick up a worker at the SM store. When i go to mnl i stay at the matrix no barfine, you pay for your drink no nobody pushing ladies drink and the talent comes to you or you will see them as the bar closes.
By Petethebeat on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 04:56 am: Edit |
Great report Tobruk! Yeah you live and learn and manila is a great place to experience! Next time you will enjoy even more! The last girl was really nice so that should give you reason to return - and there's plenty more like her there! Patience is the key to a good time in Manila.
Cheers
Pete
By Dan_2man on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 08:42 pm: Edit |
Tobruk, I know this is a late response but I would like to add something. I also applaud your honesty. This report can be very helpful for other members as it points out things many of us would be reluctant to mention.
I, like KM am curious about your chats with camgirl. I have made meeting arrangements with several cam girls thru chats and have never been disappointed. I actually prefer setting up something in advance because of my previous positive experiences (maybe because of my age/conditions). I can always fall back on more traditional forms of mongering if need be. We usually exchange cams, pictures, lots of chat and maybe a gift (not much money) in advance. I am doing a study of cam girls because I find it interesting/fascinating that this unique group of people (in general) can be so exhibitionistic in front of a cam and be so genuinely shy in public. Research data in this area is rare.
Blazers, I have to admit I had to look that word up, but I think it’s a bit irresponsible to characterize the entire Philippine culture by saying they are “Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness in behavior or speech, hypocritical”. I think you may have been referring to Filipina’s with whom we associate with, be it street, bar or cam. But more fairly, that applies to most women of all cultures, internet or not.
Dan
By Blazers on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 12:51 am: Edit |
Actually I was referring to Philippine culture in the Phils...it was a sweeping generalization but one you will find people(not just mongers) state over and over again about that particular culture. They are not alone in being duplicitous but they are the best at it in Asia...or worst I should say.
By Grownd_zero on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 04:51 am: Edit |
Tobruk,
Thanks for great report. I appreciate and respect honest reports. Most of all I learned something and when that happens, it means the report has done it's job.
My only suggestion is if you eventually want to meet and marry a Filipina that is non-programa, she probably will not put out when you meet her first time. Just my 5 cents.
All in all, thanks for great report. You are very talented writer too.
By Epimetheus on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 06:56 am: Edit |
D2M
I must agree with Blazers here. Friends that have married non-program women from the Phils and even Filipinos working/living here in the States speak of the "hand outstretched" mindset prevalent throughout the Philippines.
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By Tobruk on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 05:58 pm: Edit |
D2M--I would say my experience with chat girls is negative at best. Like I mentioned to KM, when I returned home "web scamgirl" called, when I said I wasn't sending any money she quit talking and I haven't heard from her since. I also met her cousin over there who is also a web girl, she is married with a 6 month old baby, but I know she has a couple of "boy friends" she's playing on-line as well. I also met 2 of her friends who are also "web scam girls" one is actually single while the other has a BF in Canada who she's been dating for just over a year, but I also know she's also playing a couple of guys on-line. So out of the four that I personnally met over there, only one is truly single, the rest are just looking for ATM's.
I also met another girl on the site who was very friendly on-line and said she would like to meet in person, but the day I told her I was in Phil, she suddenly went silent. And yes we chatted on-line and she had seen me on the web-cam before hand. So my advice with web girls is that they are working girls and only see you as an ATM machine or "chat" customer.
By Brianinvegas on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 07:25 pm: Edit |
I knew Dianna when I lived in Makati. She was a neighbor of mine at Makati Palace, having a foreign boyfriend picking up the tab for her condo.
She's got serious drug problems and was pregnant most of the time I knew her and always looked like shit. A few months after I left she, not surprisingly, miscarried.
Never saw her look as good as she does in your pics.
By Surferr3 on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 07:29 pm: Edit |
Epic report. You are a legend for sharing all of the details.
Many thanks!