| By Xenono on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 08:54 am: Edit |
FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2002
I started my day as I normally do. I went down to the business center with the laptop and plugged into their slower than molasses network. I chatted with Dart for a bit and checked out some current events. I decided to do some reconnoitering around the Soi 33 area for later in the trip. I also wanted to check out Washington Square. I took the Sky Train down to the Phrom Phong station. Get off on the north side of Sukhumvit and then head west, or walk back towards the Asoke station. You should first come across Sukhumvit Soi 33/1 and then Sukhumvit Soi 33.
I basically just took some pictures and scouted out the area. I wanted to know where I was going for the next time. As I was approaching the heart of the of the Artist bars there, it started pouring down rain. I started making my way back to the BTS station. I decided not to run or avoid the rain, just to walk and enjoy the cooler temperature for a change. This was a bad idea for two reasons. One was the fact I was soaking wet by the time I got to the station. Two, and more importantly, the freezing cold air of the Sky Train on the way back had me shivering throughout the ride.
I had wanted to find Washington Square but the rain put a damper on that. I would look again later. I went back to the Grand President, showered up and decided to head out for Champs Elys’ees Entertainment.
Champs Elys’ees Entertainment
Alright. How should I describe how to get to Champ Elys’ees? The map I have show Din Daeng road coming from the West, Rama IX Road to the East, Rachaphisek to the North and Din Daeng Rd to the South. Din Daeng Road is named that north of New Petchaburi. South of New Petchaburi it is called Asoke Road. Forgive me if I cannot figure out how they decide to name the damn streets in Bangkok. Champ Elys’ees is located on the Southwest corner of the Din Daeng, Din Daeng, Rachaphisek, and Rama IX intersection. The Fortune Hotel is a good landmark and where I told the taxi to take me. It is located just across the street on the Northwest corner.
Thanon Ratchadaphisek and Fortune Hotel
Champs Elys’ees Entertainment was billed as one of those upscale type massage parlors. So expect to pay a little more here. I walked in and the inside was made up like a street. I’ll assume the Champs Elysee in France? I didn’t see the Arche de Triomphe at the end of the street though. The hallway floor seemed like a cobblestone type street and the walls where made up like businesses and shops. I was escorted from the doorway to the end of the hallway by a mamasan and they sat me down in front of a whole bunch of sideline girls who were sitting stadium style in front of me. There wasn’t a fishbowl. Just about 10-20 girls in stadium type seating sitting on chairs. I ordered a beer and inquired about price. The mamsan pointed to each one and quoted a price that ranged from 2500 baht to the 4900 baht. There was one tiny little girl that caught my eye and before I had decided anything she was sitting next to me, called over by the mamasan. I asked her again how much this one was and was quoted a price of 3400 baht. I decided to go for it.
As a side note, I should say that Club Hombre doesn’t have a lot of information on some of the higher class or the more upscale and non-farang oriented massage parlors. I had the money to spend for this trip and some of my visits to these places were done in the name of research for Club Hombre. Well, not entirely in the name of research but partly in its name.
Bo was 19 and didn’t speak too much English. I snapped some shots of her and she handed me the remote control to the television and cuddled up next to me while the bath water ran.
Photos: Bo 45 46 47 48 49
The bath was pretty nice and she even shampooed and conditioned my hair at the end. After we dried off she brought out the Q-Tips and dug the ear wax out of my ears as well. (I already Q-Tip out my own earwax normallyJ)
She provided a decent covered BJ. This was another girl who was just tiny and petite in every sense of the word. We did my standard three with doggie by far the best. There was some light kissing while I did her in missionary, but nothing really deep. Overall it was a fair to slightly average session. Nothing spectacular but not bad by any sense. I’ve definitely had better sessions for a lower price though.
The room was big, but there was a rather disturbing image on the wall. There was some wallpaper with the image of a black woman with blond hair in white underwear. On the underwear in the crotch area I swear there was what appeared to be a blood stain. I don’t know if someone got cute and marked that in, or if that was what the image was supposed to look like. Oh those crazy French! The bath was spacious and big and you went up about three steps to a platform. The bath was then built into the platform.
Mirage Entertainment
After I came out of Champ Elys’ees I decided to hit Mirage based on Dart’s recommendation. It is another massage that is fairly close to the Nataree/Emmanuelle complex on Rachadaphisek Road. If you get to Subway you’ve actually gone too far. Turn around and then hang a right on the first side street you come across. Mirage is on the right hand part of the street. You’ll pass a 7-Eleven and The Palazzo Hotel. It is right next to the Palazzo.
You’ll head inside and then take an escalator up one floor. At the end of the hallway will be the fishbowl. “Rainy Days” seemed to be a theme this month (is it because it was the rainy season or do they always do that?) with those words painted all over the place. The fishbowl girls were all in bikinis with a clear (water resistant skirt type thingie) around their waists. There were also some sideline girls here sitting in stools by a counter facing me. Fishbowl girls were 2500, sideline girls were 3500.
There weren’t many girls to choose from. There was only one girl I was interested in and she was not really smiling much at me. She was by far the only girl there I wanted. But I hesitated for a long time given her demeanor through the glass.
After thinking long about her, or about leaving and trying another place, I decided to go for it. (In the name of research!) They called her number and she looked none too happy about being chosen. Boy did I read this girl wrong. As soon as we got into the room she turned into a little fucking chatterbox. She was a wealth of information about a variety of things. And the first thing she told me blew me away given her facial expression and attitude through the fishbowl. Her name was Jaeb and she was 20.
Photos: Jaeb 50 51 52 53 54
The first thing she told me was how happy she was that I chose her. You could have fooled me from her reaction, but that is what she said. They way she told it was kind of funny, too. She was saying when she heard her number she was thinking “Yaaaaaaaaaaay” and she did this thing where she waived her hands and arms in the air as well. She told me that mostly Thai, Japanese, and Chinese men pick her and rarely do the whities like me pick her. (She didn’t use the term, whitie. I just inserted that one.) She said the whities normally go for the darker girls and the Thai, Chinese and Japanese like the fair skinned girls. I just thought she was cute. Like, dark doesn’t matter to me.
She said she received 1300 out of the 2500 baht the house charged for her services. She also mentioned she had worked in other places like Singapore and Hong Kong. One place is Singapore, she said, girls would do 20-30 guys a day. LOL. That sounds more like TJ! She said average in the massage parlor was 1-2 a day, sometimes more in the 3-4 range.
She also mentioned something disturbing to me and I heard this from several girls on the trip. She said she had been working since she was 16. She was 20 now and she planned on retiring when she was 21. I wish her good luck. I am just sorry to hear that she started working when she was 16.
The room at Mirage was probably one of the biggest massage parlor rooms I have ever seen. It was very large with a big ol’ bed for the fun stuff. She showered me up rather nicely and we started messing around on the bed for a little bit. She provided a very nice lengthy BBBJ which was very enjoyable. She put the condom on, but did not get on for a ride right away. Instead she continued, this time with a covered BJ. She finally did get on for a ride and came after a short amount of time. She continued to ride me for a while and then we changed to missionary. Missionary was great as we kissed, which evolved into some very nice DFK. We continued in this position for a while and then she started screaming, “I’m coming, I’m coming!!!” and that pretty much did me in. I wasn’t really very close to finishing then but after about 30-45 more seconds I popped myself.
After we cleaned up she lay down with me and gave me a massage before she finally curled up next to me while we waited out our time.
This was a very good session overall. Definitely better than the first one of the day. Mirage and Jaeb both get a thumbs up from Xenono!
After Mirage I decided to hit Soi Cowboy again. I ended up at Rawhide and noticed someone dancing to the far end of the stage. She kept smiling at me and I kept smiling back at her. This went on throughout her dance set until she came off, changed her clothes and then sat down next to me.
Photos: Nit 55 56 57
She passed the interview I and decided to bar fine her and take her back to the hotel. She also had some partially crimped hair which really sealed the deal for me. Nit was 21. We came up to the room and started messing around a bit. I also snapped some pictures of her and then showed her. She commented she thought she looked like a ladyboy in one of the pictures. After looking at the picture I kind of agreed. I also think she looks better when she doesn’t smile. I recall some messed up teeth. But I loved her body. I thought it was absolutely fantastic.
When she made the ladyboy comment I kind of (half-jokingly, half seriously) started franticly doing some quick tests. I started looking at her pussy and then rubbed it a bit. Then I looked at her hands and then for an Adam’s apple. She was like, “I am not a ladyboy!”
We both showered up and then continued to mess around on the bed. I asked for and received a good BBBJ, but there was nothing spectacular about it. She got on for a ride and rode me quite vigorously for long time. Missionary was exceptional with lots of kissing and affection involved. She was absolutely fabulous in doggie with that exceptional body. This is when I finally came.
I noticed that these third sessions of the day were really starting to last a long time. I think it may be a combination of me just being tired and already popping twice in the day. I don’t remember that always being the case during my last trip to Thailand.
I also want to highly recommend the Beyond Seven condom used in conjunction with AstroGel. I started using some kind of lube during all my sessions late in my trip last year. Some of the girls were drying up late in the session which sometimes caused the condoms to break. Better to use the lube from the start and then you’ll almost never have a condom break on you.
The Beyond Seven and AstroGel combo was the highest sensation. Second was Durex Extra Sensitive/AstroGel and then in third place was the Kimono Sensation/AstroGel combo.
This was the end of my fifth day in Bangkok and I was just rolling along now, right on track. Five days, fifteen girls. WooHoo!
Girl Count After Day Five: 15
| By Hombrecito1 on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 02:57 pm: Edit |
Xenono,
I have to say I've been impressed with the overall quality you've had thus far. I think Jaeb is hot (great face), Bo's a little skinny for me though. My favorite is still Pu from Day 2. I keep going back and looking at her. There's something about her I like.
BKK must be the Mecca of mongering. How many massage places would you say there are? Dozens? 50?, 100? There seem to be women everywhere you go in Bangkok and every report includes different places. If you had to guess how many working girls are in BKK, would you guess 5000?, 10,000? More?
As a group I'm not that attacted to the thin spinner asian type. However, I'm sure there are more than enough hot women of all shapes and sizes to keep me occupied. One day, like all true hombres, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and make the trip to Hombre Mecca.
One thing I've noticed is there are very few nude pics of Thai girls. Is there some taboo or something about it? Is there any way to ask about it before and maybe tip them to get pics?
HC1
| By Blazers on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 03:46 pm: Edit |
Top girl is hot, although 3,400 is pretty damn steep. I guess if you go once a year, the amount you pay is pretty irrelevant. The massage girls get what they ask for from their Asian clientele so other mongers paying high prices does not change anything. Now if you were to tell me that you were paying 2500 to 3000 for short time action with go go or bar girls..then I'd think you were not thinking straight.
I'm not a fan of the massage parlors as I think most of the girls have the traditional light-skinned Asian look with almond-shaped eyes. The parlors cater to Asians whom are normally extremely Xenophobic and like women whom fit the traditional, stereotypical idea of Asian beauty.
My question to you is whether you had extra money because your trip was subsidized by Hombre or not. I'd like the same set up only I would not have fun running around taking pictures of every building in BKK during my free time. It sounds like you enjoy the challenge of taking many pictures, so this situation fits you much better.
| By Billcink on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 04:28 pm: Edit |
Hombrecito 1, Maybe your staring to understand why I like BKK along with Rio.
| By Byron on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 05:18 pm: Edit |
HC1. The following website gives you an idea of the number of prostitutes in Asian coutries.
http://www.catw-ap.org/facts.htm
Prostitution is a fabric of life there.
| By Hombrecito1 on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 05:52 pm: Edit |
Billcink-I've just got a bigtime fixation on Latinas. I'ts not that I don't want to go to BKK, it's just it will be hard for me change. I'm sure I'd Thialand too.
Byron-300k working girls minimum in Thailand? Wow.
Xenono-I like the pictures of the various establishments. Remember the majority of guys on the site haven't been to BKK a million times and aren't going back tomorrow. For guys like me, your photos of places could be very helpful if I decide to visit. I can print off the card, get the address, and know what to look for. This type of info posted by guys on the Rio threads helped me find a lot of the Termas. Thanks for posting it.
HC1
| By Xenono on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:26 am: Edit |
HC1,
I could not even begin to count how many massage parlors there must be. I made it a point to hit a lot and some of the major ones I didn't get to see the last time around. I would imagine if you include both major and minor massage parlors there are about 50 in the Bangkok area. But that is just a guess.
If you want working girls per square mile you really need to check out Pattaya. It's been said there has to be more prostitute’s per square mile in that city than in any other in the world. It's a sight to see!
My report on Jaeb in this volume triggered a reaction from my buddy Dart. He has several Thailand trips under his belt and he made a comment to me tonight that sums up the differences between Brazil and Thailand nicely for him. As someone who has not yet been to Brazil, I had to tell him, "Yeah, I'll think about that when I go next year."
As far as nude pics are concerned. I find it difficult enough just to get pictures of the girls. Nude would be extremely hard. I briefly thought of offering extra money for nudes, but I don't value them that much. A fully clothed pictured for my collection and memory is enough for me. I also think it has something to do with the general shyness of Thai girls. These are the same girls that after taking their shower come out wrapped in a towel and then curl up underneath the bed covers while you shower or before you start to go at it. I think it’s just a cultural thing. Part of it is fake and can be broken rather quickly with some effort. Part of it depends on the girl and part of it is embedded pretty deep inside them. I got a picture of every girl I fucked in Thailand, but some I had to work on for as long as 10-15 minutes to finally get them to allow a picture.
I ran into a particular string of hard luck really later into the trip.
Blazers,
I cut back severely on my TJ and Nogales mongering for this trip. I had long planned for this trip to be a major fuck-a-thon, if you will. I still have the habit of transferring back into dollars what the same thing would cost me here in the US or Mexico. Everyone says I should not do that but oh well. Let's take a look. 3400 baht / 43 (at the time I was there) = $79 US Dollars.
That's about $8 more than the average 30 minute TJ session and about even with the average 12 minute closet fuck in Nogales.
To me, dropping 3400 baht for two hours, a nice room, a cute girl, no early knock, no cramped fucking in a closet, and a session that will most likely be 50 to 100% more affectionate and accommodating than the average TJ or Nogales session is a no brainier. It was a complete non-issue for me. Now if I was traveling 6-10 times a year like you things might be different. But that was it for me. That was my two weeks of vacation. That's all I get for the entire year. So it's not like I am going back this year or even next. My one international trip next year is going to be to Rio. I am not like the other guys on this board that can take 5-10 trips a year. I just can't do it so dropping a little extra coin for the massage girls didn’t bother me a bit and it played into the goals I wanted to accomplish on this trip.
As for the Go-Go girls I pay standard rate. 1000-1500 for short time and 1500-2000 for long time. Very few of the girls ever discussed price with me beforehand (although a few did) and I often just ended up giving the girls something in between the standard rate each time.
Whether or not I had extra money due to the Club Hombre incentive plan is really kind of irrelevant if you are relating that to the reason why I did so many massage girls. I saved for this trip for a long time because I knew it would be the only one I took this year. Whether or not I received Club Hombre incentives did not determine who I fucked or where.
The biggest deciding factor in trying to do two massages and one Go-Go/Beer Bar girl a night was logistics. I had the stated goal of doing three girls a day. I didn’t want to mess around with trying to bring back a day girl and then having to change out towels, possibly having dirty sheets, etc for the evening girl. Sure, there may be other ways to accomplish this but I found the best way “for me” was to try and do two massages and one Go-Go a day. I also wanted to check out a lot of different massage parlors and not just stick to the ones we all knew about.
Now, on to your direct question about Club Hombre incentives. Without getting into the details of my personal arrangements with Hombre, yes, I did receive Club Hombre incentives for this trip report and the photos that go along with it. In the past Hombre has talked about being willing to work with reporters who write good reports, gather information and submit lots and lots and lots of photos of the girls.
I should note that I would probably put every effort I put into my current report even if I did not receive Club Hombre incentives. I enjoy writing my reports. They serve as a diary and log of my trip and experiences. I also like sharing information. I never would have made it to Thailand if it weren’t for the information I found on the internet and the people who answered my questions when I didn’t know where I as going or what I was doing. Checking out some new places that aren’t yet covered on the board and snapping a few pictures as I enter a building, a few of the room while the bath runs, and then trying to get a few of the girls does not in any way hinder my free time or what I want personally to accomplish when I am in Thailand. Neither does asking for a business card or recording a few notes about my experiences when I done and waiting for a cab.
| By Byron on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:25 am: Edit |
This is off topic for this thread, but in the website I gave on the above, there was this statement about Japan "The sex industry accounts for 1% of GNP".
I did not initially think much of it, until I realized that Japan's GNP is BIG. In fact, I just looked it up. Japan's GNP for year 2000 was 4.7 trillion US dollars (which accounted for 17% of the ENTIRE world's GNP). 1% of $4.7 trillion is $47 BILLION. Japan's male population between age 20-60 (sorry Ben) is about 40 million. Assuming that these men pick up the tab for the overwhelming majority of the industry, EVERY Japanese man spends $1,175 on sex EVERY YEAR.
Of course, not all expenses on sex industry are on prostitution. And a session per hour there ($2-300) costs 2-3 times more than that in TJ ($50 per half hour). At the same time, the above figure does NOT include what Japanese men spend sex in foreign coutries (SEA etc), nor am I sure if it covers an economy at HUGE underground/illegal prostitution (such as widespread prostitution by "non-pro" teenage girls). In any case, Japanese men must be spending more on prostitution than anybody else in the world.
Quite frankly, I am not surprised by $1,175 per man figure. For one thing, the frequency of mongers among Japanese men is ridiculously high compared to, say that among US men. I'd say 80% (or maybe more) of the friends I know from Japan monger, and they don't hide their inclination for their hobby at school or work.
| By Blazers on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:38 am: Edit |
Xen- No criticism pointed your way, just very curious. You can spend whatever you want and you're logical enough not to go crazy and thrown money around at the girls to get their attention. I think the massage parlors have some hotties but are way too sterile. I watch my budget but still spent nearly $35,000.00 in monger traveling last year and I still have my trip October 18-30 to Thailand and Vietnam. If I didn't keep my budget down to $225 per day, I' would not be able to travel so much.
Your the first person I have ever heard that had goals in a trip. Did you write down your goals and repeat them like a mantra before the trip. I like to have plans but having goals on a mongering trip seems kind of robotic to me but you and I are different. Going once a year, you should splurge and do whatever it is you want. Can't wait for your Pattaya reports, so far you have done a very thorough job. The one area I wish you would have covered that I may cover next time is Patpong. The most beautiful girls in BKK work at Kings Castle 1 and 2. Nowhere else is even close in BKK. The area is seedy which turns most mongers away but I'm curious to see peoples impressions of the place.
| By Mcdijj on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:05 pm: Edit |
Exno,
Thanks for the in depth reporting. When I was planning my first trip to LOS there was enough information on this board for me to find the Majestic and get to Nana ... not a bad start. Many contributers have added alot of good info in the last year or two, you amoung them.
Just returned from a kayaking trip to Baja where I was able to spend two nights in TJ. Still a fine place to spend some time but I am really looking forward to LOS in November.
It is nice to have a mission when spending more than just a few days in Asia. Hope that you are enjoying your extensive Massage Mission as much as we are reading about it. I think that I will be checking out ruins and temples alot on my November trip as I enjoy that anyway. It gives me my mission and provides for many photos that I can show prudish friends and family ... like these temples are THE reason I went to Thailand (again). Ha Ha !! Of course I will have LOT'S of company.
McDIJJ
| By Mcdijj on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:07 pm: Edit |
Xeno,
Sorry about mis=spelling your name on the post above. Perhaps some day our paths will cross and you can even clue me in as how to pronounce it.
| By Byron on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:24 pm: Edit |
Hey, I have a goal when I stay overnight at TJ. I do at least three chicas per night. I typically do one new chica, and then do two repeats from the collection of my favs at various bars. It works for me.
So, Xen, whatever works for your mongering, that's fine.
This "Girl Count" is not giving us any suspense, though. You are no Drewwho. Short of illness or injury (which I hope did not happen), I have absolutely no reason why you would stray from 3+/day pace until the end of the trip. This is my thought on your report style, not on your mongering style.
| By Khun_mor on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 07:24 pm: Edit |
To Hombrecito1 -- As I mentioned in my post complimenting your Pics from Brazil- it is almost impossible to get a Thai girl to pose nude or even topless. They can dance nude in the bar , but you get them back to the room and they are extremely shy about nudity. Cover with towel or sheet as much as possible. It would take way too much of an extra tip to make nude photos a reasonable possibility. They are also very internet savvy and know where the pictures are going. Thus it is hard to get them to pose even clothed sometimes. Were your Rio girls aware of internet and possibility of posting ?? Just curious.
| By Hombrecito1 on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
Khun mor,
Some of the garotas did know the photos would be posted. Others didn't but most of them knew about the internet.
HC1
| By Blacks on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 12:05 am: Edit |
Great report, on your reccomendation I will stay at the Grand President too in early Nov but can send no pics as my asian wife will be with me. Vietnam and Cambodia are on the agenda too. As I live close to the Zona I enjoy it so this should be better.
| By Xenono on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 11:32 am: Edit |
Mcdijj,
I think this board has come a long ways in the two years it has been around. But that is a credit to Hombre and how he was able to position this board as not just a TJ board, but as a complete world sex travel site.
Blacks,
Thanks. I've love to hear your views of Thailand, etc once you get back.
| By Dickjohnson on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 04:33 am: Edit |
Blazers, I find the girls at King Castle 1 & 2 unattractive and 'low class'. Wonder why stickman raves about these places. He seems to rarely go to massage parlours and other even higher end places, where I think girls are more attractive. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder isn't it?
Nice reports Xen, one of the reasons I log on.
By the way are you sure about that beyond seven beating Durex extra sensitive ;-) Have you tried them on the same pussies? Tight pussies can REALLY make a condom seem better-Dick=p
Btw, have you ever tried rolling and body massage at the same time ;-) I haven't. You go to Ministry Of Sound u know what I mean;-)
richard_johnson@angelfire.com
| By d'Artagnan on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:36 am: Edit |
Xenophobic? I am hardly afraid of Xen. Hell, I spent a whole two weeks with him last November.
I hit Mirage on my first trip to Thailand with Cman a few years ago. Cman passed up a sideline he liked there and had a bit of regret about it. I found the place again on my trip this year and some some incredible sidelines, one of the two I REALLY wanted was just going upstairs and the other was booked in advance, really popular girl.
Jaeb is a doll. She's got a bit of a stomach, but I love her face. I got a kick out of Xen's description of how responded in the room and she said she felt.
The summary that Xen mentions went something like this:
In Thailand, you are the girl's hero. She is delighted you have chosen her, and her response is bubbly. She is all smiles and joy.
In Brazil, you are a juicy lamb in front of a well-toned animal licking her lips. She will pounce on you and won't let up until she is satisfied and you can't continue on.
Although I love Thailand, as far as sex is concerned I prefer being viewed as a piece of meat.
| By Byron on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 08:18 pm: Edit |
dArt, I am shocked that you did not say "In TJ, you are an ATM."
Are you okay?
| By Murasaki on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:29 pm: Edit |
To Hombrecito: as one of the few who have successfully posted nude photos of a Thai girl, I can say from my experiences that Mcdijj is dead on. They can be incredibly shy when alone with you in the room, and downright vehement about no photos, especially of the nude variety. I discussed this a while back with Drewwho, who said a bunch of his local buddies claimed that extra $$ would do the trick in many cases. I was planning on testing that theory on my next trip, but now that I have no job to return to, the budget will be tighter and not allow for this test. So we'll see how far my good looks and charm get me.
To Byron: just wanted to add that we must not forget that those figures include the infinite number of hostess clubs, and the fact that the company picks up the dime for a lot of these activities. Something I could never get away with here!
To Xen: great job on the reporting! My personal favorite rain coat set up are the "Skin less skin" Crown condoms with Probe lube.
| By Byron on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 12:05 am: Edit |
Yeah, those Ginza clubs can charge a group $1,000 per night just for drinks. I hear if you find a girl you like, you have to go back there at least 5 times, buy her a $500 dress, and then she MAY sleep with you. I am glad my novia works at CC, not at Ginza.
I also heard that their business is waaay down, not only because bubble bursted but companies can no longer entertain government officials there. I have no idea how much of 47 BILLION dollars is accounted for by hostess clubs. I would be surprised if it is more than 10% (which is still 4.7 billion dollars).
| By d'Artagnan on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 04:16 am: Edit |
In TJ, you are an ATM.
TJ actually has a much greater variance in typical service on the lower end than all other places I've visited, it's also handicapped on the higher end because it's virtually impossible for a session to achieve incredible status in 25 minutes.
I actually had an AB girl refuse to take her top off completely tonight. (that's a first) I had a repeat make up for it at CC.
| By Byron on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 06:26 pm: Edit |
Ok, dArt's comment inspired me to write a post "how TJ chicas suck" at Hombre board. Look up, if you are interested.
| By Dickjohnson on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 09:20 pm: Edit |
Byron, dArt you guys r on the money. I also had an AB chick who didn't want to take her top off completely(she had a super hot bode and a few tatoos, fake big tits, Michelle? I think she put on a lot of weight.)
| By Byron on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 04:48 pm: Edit |
A friend of mine who loves shemales and I came up with several reasons on why a TJ chica would not want to take off her top.
(1) She just had a baby and is lactating rather uncontrollably.
(2) She has scars from implants.
(3) She is not confortable with her breast shapes (natural or bought).
(4) She does not want her nipples to be sucked.
Anything else you can add, Erip?
| By Mcdijj on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 11:19 pm: Edit |
Byron
(5) It takes too much time to take the top off and put it back on ... time she would rather use finding the next customer.
| By Erip on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:05 am: Edit |
Byron, I would have thought your friend who loves shemales could have completed your list for you, but I'll be happy to donate a couple more:
(5) Those aren't implants, they are...FALSIES;
(6) Her woman's intuition is picking up a powerful "infantilism" vibe from you and she fears that getting you off the teat will be like trying to get a pit bull off a 12 year old's arm. If she succeeds in getting you to cease your endless suckling, she is petrified that your next request will be that she change your diaper.