It's back to Frankfurt for a mongering trip less than a week before my birthday. Why return to Frankfurt? Primarily because Germany is the only place I can afford to go to celebrate my birthday and even then I have to go a week early because I need to do this during the Easter Holiday. I get two days off work for Easter so this is good, I don’t have to take any time off from my new job.

I was thinking about going to some other city but why risk it for a short trip? Things have been going well so far, I did not get out of the office early on Thursday but took my regular train back home. I avoided too many questions by saying I was meeting a friend in Frankfurt and heading to an Arts / Craft / cultural Easter Fair.

Up early Friday morning and take a taxi to the airport which was quieter than I expected for Easter, hopefully most travellers were heading out the night before as this is a big holiday when you get four days off work. There was more activity in the other terminal with flights heading to spots around the Mediterranean. Got to the airport 150 minutes early and hung around, a little pissed because there is no place to smoke in the departures lounge, had a beer and carried on updating the report.

When I arrived in Frankfurt, things started to go wrong, I could not get a car with a GPS and then my credit card was rejected, stupid HSBC bank was informed that I was on my way to Frankfurt but still messed up.

I get a taxi to my hotel as recommended by Ticafan, the Monopol. It’s a nice, old style hotel next to the main rail station that I like. The rooms are nice, you have to pay if you want wireless internet access but it’s easy enough to take your laptop into the lobby and plug it into their wired connections for free. If you don’t bring a laptop you can use their business centre next door at the hotel Excelsior for free internet. it's better than the place I stayed at the last time, with better rooms and breakfast.

As it’s cash all the way, I’ll have to take cabs all the time and that means no trips to World or Oase as I had planned. Still I head to the Palace and have a decent start to my trip.

I go first with a Venezuelan girl Carmen who gives me a great BBJCIM that does not go on for long enough.

I see Linda from the Czech Republic (with a Scot for a father) whom I went with last November, she still looks good and she has a great reputation but her large tits are sagging a lot and I doubt that she will last much longer before men start turning her away. It’s too bad as she has a great attitude.

Later I meet up with a Romanian Deborah who ends my day badly when she wants to be paid an extra €50 for a quick BBBJ. That is usually for CIM which I did not ask for nor receive. I’m still thinking about giving her a hard time about demanding extras as so few other girls have tried that on me. It’s no good complaining at the front desk as the girls set their own price, but if a girl tells me she is from Romania, I’ll point to Deborah and tell the girl that I went with her Friday and after overcharging I don’t go with Romanians any more. She is a beautiful spinner with a dark complexion and bad crooked teeth and stained through smoking these long cigarettes.

Saturday is a good day, I return to the Palace and have a good couple of sessions, the first with Iliana or Eliana from the Czech Republic. She is truly beautiful, I get to be her first or the day and I later find out that she is one of the stars there.

I’m talking with a couple of guys and one of them is clocking the girls as they go to the rooms. One was in and out in EIGHT minutes. I see several girls who are repeatedly heading to rooms. I counted one girl going to a room four times and another made three trips while I was sitting at the coffee bar and talking to one guy for less than one hour.

I get a tip that while you don’t want to be in Frankfurt when there is a Messe (a trade fair) which has often been pointed out, but it’s a good idea to be around the week after it closes as many of the girls are still working and the pickings are good.

There is one Thai beauty who was working very hard, she must have gone to a room about ten times before she retired in the early evening. I really want to do her but I’ll try to be first in line on Sunday if she is there. I also find out tonight that Deborah from Romania is not like all the others girls I go with, they do give BBBJ and it’s only CIM that costs an extra €50.

I think Lucy from the Blue Marlin in San Jose, Costa Rica might have a European sister, at least she has a very close look-alike working there. German Lucy looks very much like our Costa Rica Lucy, a little taller but the same facial features, over tanned skin and about 10 – 15 years younger, yes this Lucy is also far past her prime to still be on the game.

Talking about over-aged girls, I also have to peel off one Spanish woman who I would not have cared to go with even if she was twenty; she was too old, too fat and not even a little bit attractive. I tell her no one time but later she comes around again and hits on me again, I try to tell her that I’m not interested but she’s a pain about it. I’m too nice to be insulting (OK Dino - this time) so she persists until she gets worn down by my disinterest.

Next I find a Brazileria, I tell her that I go to Rio a lot and that I love Carioca’s, which drives her to prove that a Paulinista is better. She does a great job on me but can’t quite convince me to head to Sao Paulo instead. Although maybe one day, I’ll have time to take a side trip.

All evening I have a headache and it’s getting worse, but I persevere and hang around, I find a Bulgarian girl who danced to some Middle Eastern music with a lovely smile on her face (her smile reminded me of Joanna Cassidy’s when she was the replicant in Blade Runner) and when I don’t see a couple of other girls I’d go with, I call her over. It might have been the bad headache, the heat, or just her technique but she just cannot get me to come. She and Eliana both told me that anal now costs an extra €100 in addition. I don’t know if that’s the new rate as before I think I was quoted an extra €50 the last time I was here in November but I may ask some other girls tomorrow just to compare. Still, tonight it was three sessions for a total of €150. I’m tired, the headache is worse and I leave the Palace after Midnight.

It was interesting on the ride home to see a procession of people carrying candles out of a church and down the street, Germans (and unfortunately the girls that work in the FKK’s) take Easter more seriously than in the US. Back to the hotel for a couple of beers while I update the report and then read a little and bed.

Sunday is probably my last day. I could return to the Palace Monday but I’m very concerned about bringing in my luggage as I’d have to check out of the hotel first, it would be safer to not go there at all. (I later see some guys come in but they have small bags that might fit in a locker, mine wouldn’t.)

Once again its another trip to the Palace, and for a long time the place is dead! Saturday was bad until mid afternoon with few girls around and too many men sitting there looking bored but today is even worse, most girls don’t start showing up until after six and it really does not get back to normal until Eight. I’m tempted to do a repeat with Carmen from Venezuelan or a second girl I‘ve been keeping an eye on the last few days but I’m chatting with an American and in no hurry to get laid. I’m also hoping to see that stunning Thai girl with a poster sized tattoo on her back. But in rapid succession Carmen goes with three guys and I lose interest.

I hear that the Düsseldorf FKK’s are great, especially GoldenTime although they are small and have just a few girls so I might head there the next time I want to take a quick trip.

The Thai girl never shows up and so I later go with a stunning half German half Lebanese girl who tells me she lives close to Holland and drives down here occasionally. She tells me she has her own business and in the past two years has worked in the FKK’s for only four months. Suspicious about what she does, I ask and I’m not surprised when she tells me she runs a cosmetic “studio” which is supposed to be different to a cosmetic salon.

That Spanish crone is working again and I try to avoid her, but she catches me later on, I think she got the point when I kept saying no. (Maybe I should have said “OK but you have to pay ME €200”.)

Eliana is back today but before I can grab her, she has gone with a couple of guys and I don’t see much of her for the longest time. A few times I get hit on by attractive girls but when I ask where they are from and they all tell me Romania, I turn them down as I’m not about to get charged for surprise “extras” when it’s time to pay. One of the most attractive Romanians also speaks good English and wants to know why? I point out Deborah and say it’s because of her. She tries to sell herself that not all Romanians are like Deborah and she’s willing to go with me even though most of my countrymen are smelly unwashed drunks because she knows I’m showered (her quote). I still turn her down.

After about eight in the Evening things finally start to pick up, for so many hours there were very few girls around but now they have started to come in. I get hit on by a great looking girl who turns out to be Russian, she’s walking around in a teddy and I think that she’s hiding the sag in her big tits. That’s not true as when I go to a room with her I find out that they are big yet don’t sag at all. I have a great time with her.

I’m ready to quit but I want to finish up with one last good session so when the famous Linda walks past, I call her over. We walk around trying to find an available room. It’s busy now and we have to use the curtained bedrooms by the pool, fortunately no one can look in without pulling open the curtain. Taking Linda is guaranteed to be a good time, but I see that her remaining time in the FKK really is going to be short as her tits do sag a lot, and she’s not very tight. I do have a great time with her and I leave the Palace content.

My last two days have been good and made up for Friday’s annoyances, ever since I first got into the Palace they have washed away. I wish I could have tried a few other FKK’s but three trips to the Palace were good enough.

The current prices at the Palace are €75 entrance for men, €50 for women, straight sex is €50, all the girls gave free BBBJ but Romanian Deborah will charge an extra €50 for a quick BBBJ, all the girls charge an extra €50 for CIM and anal is €150. Other refinements such as a titty fuck are negotiable in advance but expect to be soaked if you don’t ask ahead of time.

I have also heard complaints about some girls who will not allow touching or kissing so sometimes it is important to negotiate up front, but most girls are easy to deal with.

Upper tier Frankfurt FKK’s will charge about the same for entrance with unlimited non-alcoholic drinks. Palace offers champagne at ridiculous prices too. At the upper tier FKK’s this also includes food, Palace has two meals during the day. From opening they have a lunch menu which had cereal, breads, smoked salmon, cold cuts, cheese and fruit. Around Five it get’s cleared away for a dinner menu at Six which has things such as Sushi, pasta, beef, potatoes, sausage, pork, bread and salad. There is a good choice if you get there early.

The Palace has expanded, they have added extra rooms since I last visited in November and now have a new steam room an extra bathroom and professional massage. Still, they were so busy Sunday night that I had to use one of the two booths by the swimming pool.

In sum, I like the FKK’s somewhat but I really need to get out of Frankfurt to see if there are any better one’s around. I’m not into the wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am / inflatable fuck session that you get in Frankfurt. You could be done in 15 minutes and ask yourself why bother. In Rio, just walking into a Terma means a lot of fun, here you just sit around, stare at a lot of pretty dolls and when you are ready find a room to fuck them, they seem to work by the numbers and the girls aren’t even robots, just fuck machines. I avoided a lot of that but you could see it with the guys going to a room and returning in a few minutes.

Best advice is to stay away from the Romanians, I’d heard complaints about them before, I’ve not had a good time with them last November and this trip solidified my fears about them. Looking back at my last FKK report, I see that I should have looked at it again before I left, I might have been more wary. If you see one you just have to go with, then a good idea is to negotiate every little thing up front.

After I return, I hear from others who have also have problems with Romanians, it seems that this is not unusual and these girls are now claiming to be from other countries.

Thanks, it's good to hear about a less-documented part of the world.

From your assessment of Frankfurt clubs, they seem more high volume than Oase and World. Looks like the city center relies on tourist trade, and the further out you get, the more the girls recognize the need to cultivate repeat clientele. Peter29 has written about Düsseldorf and GoldenTime, making that scene sound more laid-back and local-oriented.

Perhaps your saggy favorites' fates will be postponed thru the miracle of modern medical technology.

Sorry but I don't see much of a difference at World or Oase which I visited last November. Sure, it was a little better but not enough.

I did hear some good things from a fellow monger at Palace who was on his way to Goldentime.

as usual, these prices are high for what you get in service and time. glad that you liked , but I wouldn't have paid that much..
out of curiosity how much time do you have for that 50 euros fuck session ? 10 min ? 20 min ?

damn these Euro-fuck trips are expensive?? 75 euros to get in ? 50 for fuck and 50 euros for CIM, that = 175 euros which is about & 237 dollars.
since I'am Romanian, and I speak the language, next trip tell a Romanian whore, " SUGE-mi PULA pizda "
which means suck my dick you pussy

too things,, next time a Romanian working girl( whore ) gives you a bad time.
tell her, (dute in pizda la Mata) = go in your mothers pussy or tell her this line, (Taci, suge si inghite tu vaca ) = shut up ,suck and swallow you cow )
that will get her divine attention !!!

Also, some girls tell you they charge an extra 50E when you ask them if you can return the oral favor on them Not me, I would rather spend the 50 on some other hottie.

I recommend wearing a wrist watch at the FKK's, because if you go over 30 minutes, they can and will ask for the extra 50E for the pleasure. I have only paid an extra fifty once, and that was my choice with an awesome 20 y/o

Regarding Linda, she is a sweetie and a good poke. Especially with 'em udders above my face, cowgirl style:-)

Wow, vaca in Romanian, is the same as in Spanish.

My two cents worth, peace

sf4dfish !! belive it or not , Romanian language is very close to Spanish and even closer to Italian. Its a romance language, not Slavic( serbian, russian, polish, bulgarian,)

Italian, French, Spanish, Portugese, ROMANIAN ! are Romance languages ( LATIN )..!!

I saw the famous Linda (@ The Palace) too. Big naturals for sure. Good time. Also saw Arabela that night - very good.

Second night, had a disappointment with Nelly. She offered to start blowing me in one of the public rooms (not the main area), which we did, then we continued to the room. I found out the clock started in the first room and we only had 15min left. She was a bit bossy so I ended the session and left. Good thing it's only 50E and you can just go find another girl. Finished the night with a nice titfuck from Karina.

2 nights, 4 girls. 2(65E/entry fee) + 4(50E/girl) = 330E or 83E per half hour session. 3 good experiences and one bad. The Palace is a good time but still IMO inferior to the South America night club scene.

thats what I mean. fucking whores, ok!! (working ladies) in Europe is Damn expensive..
every monger is entitled to spend as he wishes or what he can afford.
also I think majority of these euro-girls have this Stuck-up attitude !! of course not all

The Govement in South Africa is talking about legalizing P4P for the 2010 soccer world cup. They are already trying to talk some local club owners into building a few super brothels, hopefully like the Palace but with better pricing. We can only hope...

Aaah, Linda - I remember her and her awesome titties. Its been 2 years since I was in Frankfurt - I need to find a way back there soon!

This report highlights the FKK scene well. It is clear that Downandup likes them though, while I came to the conclusion that the negatives outweigh the positives. (See my 2 trip reports for details).

Here are the pluses and minuses as I see them:
Insane pricing to get and stay in Europe; bargains inside the club ($65 for 30 minutes with a 8-9 Euro-babe!); the negative attitude and mechanical sessions that seem to arise from the high turnover; no other full nudity inspection of the goods like this any where in the first world; however an FKK is much more boring to hang around in than a Terma for the in-between times.

Because of all of this, variety by switching clubs is essential IMHO. I like Palace but it is worthwhile to get to Oases or World or others. A GPS is nice but I have gotten there on printed directions from this site. We can just say fuck it and once in the home town ask for directions to the FKK, they all speak English -- but I have to admit this would be a last resort.

Thanks for the update. I only go when I cruise through on biz -- next time I will sample the Koln area clubs.

Danke.

Jjgettis,

If I had to cross the Atlantic just to travel to an FKK, I would not have done it, I would have gone to Rio instead. As a matter of fact, I was on a 90 minute flight from the UK to Frankfurt. The Termas just outclass any FKK that I'd rather fly to Rio given the opportunity. As a matter of fact, once you get to Europe, prices can ben held down, but with a weak dollar it costs you a lot.

Anyway, I'm tired of Frankfurt and will try somewhere else the next time I want to make a trip but don't have time to go far.