Mexico City- Bring your Wallet


I was gonna try to go to Rio this weekend with UWPhoto but I just couldn’t take anymore days off from work. I was bummed but determined to go out of the country on a journey. Early last week one of the girls I met from the internet told me that she was going to be in Mexico City on business. She told me there was a party that she would like me to go with her too. Essentially, she asked me to be her date. I have chatted with this girl online several times via MSN Messenger and the phone a few times. She is not a “working” girl. She is a very pretty, educated, laid back girl. I thought to myself “why not”.

It was very short notice but I booked a ticket to Mexico City. The ticket wasn’t too expensive. Mexico seems to have a higher tax rate than other international destinations. Originally my ticket was $290 but with all taxes and fees it was $385.00. I’m including extensive prices for everything. Some guys might not care about prices for things other than girls but many do so I’m including them.

You should also note that my original intention of this trip was not to “hobby” but I was fairly certain that I could get in a girl here or there. There is very little information on Mexico City. (especially for a city of it’s size). The only thing some guys told me was it was very expensive there. They were NOT lying. Do NOT go to Mexico City and expect to pay next to nothing for anything. Everything there is expensive. I have gotten spoiled going down to Buenos Aires, Argentina.

I am already a member of several message boards but didn’t see too much info on them so I signed up for WSA hoping to find some newer information. There was a little information but much of it was dated or old. The great thing is that I read a post from this guy called “Chilango Chilaquil”. He included his email address so I emailed him. I can’t tell you what a class act this guy is. He emailed me back extensive information on girls and the scene there. He gave me several sites to girls. Admittedly, many of the girls were not my type but it was great nonetheless. His English is very good. He offered to pick me up at the airport. If you get the chance to go to Mexico City definitely hook up with him. cchilaquil@hotmail.com

I don’t mean to skip around so much but I’m typing this fast. It’s very busy at work and I’m on my lunch break. My amiga wanted me to stay at her hotel but I went online and it appeared to be a 2-3 star hotel at best. I need a good bed so I decided to go with a 5 star luxury hotel. I’m a member of the Leading Hotels of the World (http://www.lhw.com/). I went on their website to check out which hotels they recommended for Mexico City. They gave high marks to the Fiesta Americana Grand Chapultepec hotel. It was a new hotel. It is only one year old. I booked a suite at a rate of $180 US a night + 17% tax. (yeah…very expensive). All the great hotels in Mexico City were expensive. Even the hotel my amiga was at was almost $90 US a night.

Everyone and their brother were telling me how dangerous Mexico City is. For that reason I called the hotel directly and asked them how much it would be for airport pick up. They quoted $80 US for a limo and $60 US for a nice Town Car. I decided to pass and just take airport transportation. I was sure I’d be able to find something for cheaper. It was around this time that I continued to email with Chilango. I also talked to him on the phone and he again offered to pick me up. I decided to take him up on his offer. I told him that I’d pay him the rate a taxi would charge.

I flew down and the flight was uneventful. It was interesting to see that almost all of the passengers were Mexican citizens. I was on a Super 80 airliner, which holds about 125 people and I was probably one of only 10-15 Americans. Most of the passengers around me didn’t speak any English. The flight was very short at around 2 ½ hours on a direct flight.

As the plane was making it’s final descent, I looked out my window and was somewhat awestruck. Mexico City is HUGE. The city is unlike any city I’ve ever been to. It’s apparent when flying in that you notice just how big the city is and how many people are living there. (An estimated 23 million people). It was truly amazing to see the vast city below me.

I arrived at the airport and it was crowded! Clearing customs was a breeze and my bag was waiting for me when I got to the baggage area. I went to the area where everyone is waiting to pick someone up. Again, it was VERY crowded. I looked for Chilango in the area we talked about but I didn’t see him. I waited a little bit and figured he didn’t show up. I arranged airport transport in a big van at a rate of 200 pesos (or roughly $20 US). The going rate right now is about 9.9 pesos to the US Dollar. To make it easy I just rounded 10 X 1. I didn’t bother to convert dollars into pesos as the rate was very easy to calculate and everyone took US Dollars. In fact, at most casa de cambios the Mexicans had to pay 10.20 pesos to get $1 US.

Traffic going to the hotel was horrible. The driver told me it was especially bad because there were several protests going on and it backed up traffic. He told me without traffic it’s normally only 15-20 minutes. I got to my hotel and was very happy. It was a very nice luxury property. The lady at the front desk was very friendly. She upgraded me to the executive club level floor. My room was great and had a great view. It included a nice breakfast upstairs in the Executive Lounge and use of the business center. After arriving in my room I went to the business center and checked my email. Sure enough, there was an email from Chilango. He was emailing me from the airport. He WAS there but I missed him. I had to go back to the airport to meet my amiga who was arriving that afternoon. Chilango offered to pick me up and take me to the airport. I told him my room # and he was there in 30 minutes.





We chatted on the way to the airport. Traffic again was horrendous. He was a really good guy. His English was very good and he was the type of guy that asked for nothing in return. Just wanted to help out a newbie in Mexico City. I told him I wanted to pay him for the journey to the airport. He refused. While we were in traffic I stuffed a $20 US bill into his dash compartment while he wasn’t looking. (Later in the day he saw it and laughed because he didn’t know I put it there). We arrived at the airport and couldn’t find my amiga. The flight she gave me was either cancelled or changed. At this point I was starving. I had not eaten breakfast or lunch yet and it was past 3 PM. I told him that I would just email her and hook up with her later.

We went to the Zona Rosa (Pink Zone). It was not that far but with traffic took a while. Do NOT even think about renting a car in this city. Traffic sucks and you don’t want to be driving in it. I asked Chilango how he got his screen name and he told me a Chilango is a citizen of Mexico City. We drove through all these parts of town and he would tell me a little history as we were driving. We made it to The Angus in Zona Rosa. A nice restaurant that had open air seating. Also, some of these waitresses were hot and most had revealing dresses on. He told me it was kind of like their version of “Hooters” but an upscale environment. We both had lunch on me. To give you an idea about prices… again things aren’t cheap. The lunch with sodas, soup, steaks for each of us and 1 alcoholic drink was $100 US and I left a $20 US tip because our girl was so good and a cutie. That same meal in Buenos Aires would be less than $30 US with tip probably. Also the steaks in Mexico can’t even compare with Argentina.




Chilango offered to take me around to some of the strip clubs but I wanted to get back to the hotel and see if my amiga called. Part of me was hoping she did because that’s the reason why I flew down there in the first place. And part of me was hoping she didn’t because I wanted to hit the clubs. We get to my hotel where I don’t hear from my amiga. I had Chilango call her parent’s house to let her know that I did try to meet up with her and left her my hotel room #.

Then I was horny so I told Chilango that I would call some of the girls that I printed out. He told me about some websites before my trip. The best prospects seemed to be from: I thought it was kind of ironic that the hottest girls from the site were some Brazilian girls and girls from Argentina. We called a few of the girls and I settled on Faira was 2000 pesos ($200 US) for 1 ½ hours. She was one of the girls from Brazil. I wanted to see another girl from Argentina but she wasn’t answering her phone even though she had emailed me telling me she would be available that day.

Faira says she can be over in an hour. We agreed on meeting at 8 PM. I was pretty happy to have set something up. Chilango left but we talked about going out to the strip clubs if my amiga didn’t call me. About this time Faira called my hotel room back to confirm and also to tell me that it would be better if I called the front desk and told them my friend was arriving at 8 PM. She gave me her real name and I called the front desk and told them to let her up at 8 PM. No problems whatsoever. Right after booking my amiga calls and tells me that she is sorry. Her flight got changed and had to take an earlier flight. She was there and wanted me to come over to the place she was at. I couldn’t back out on Faira at this point. I told my amiga I was meeting my friend for a drink and I would be there at 10 PM. She said she was excited.

Meanwhile my room was hot and the air-conditioning system was hard to decipher so I called the front desk. They sent someone up. It was funny when I answered the door because there was this hottie along with the guy fixing my air-conditioner. He had this look on his face like “you lucky bastard!!!”. He shows me how to work the system and I give him a few bucks. Then I ask the girl who she is. She is obviously NOT Faira because Faira looked older and had a bigger body frame. This girl was very cute though and had a booming body so I didn’t mind. She told me that she was Lola. Faira was her cousin. In fact, the other girl there is her cousin too. All 3 of them are in Mexico City for a while making some serious dough than going back.

Photos: Lola 1 Lola 2 Lola 3 Lola 4

Lola did not speak any English nor Spanish either but she could understand everything I was saying in Spanish. I started Pimsleur Portuguese and only could say basic things but she was very impressed that I was trying to learn. Then she starts asking me all these questions. Was I married, did I have a girlfriend, did I have kids, etc. All the BS type questions we usually ask the girls. She flat out told me that she wanted to live in the US and wanted to find someone to marry her. She told me that she thought I was really handsome and kept telling me that she didn’t believe I wasn’t married. She was very passionate. She did ask for her “regalo” (gift) before the session. I told her that I was disappointed that she didn’t trust me. I told her that I would put the $200 US on the table and she could take it when she was done. She agreed and was very happy. She called someone on her cellphone to let them know she was there.

I snap some photos of her and then we start making out. This girl LOVED to kiss. Her tongue was all over my body. She was dressed very nice and I started stripping her. She was totally GFE. At first she wanted to do a CBJ and I politely asked if she could do a little BBBJ which she agreed to. She was new to the business. She had only been working 23 days (or so she said). I believed her. She was 19 years old. We did multiple positions, deep French kissing the whole time. Even when I was going doggie on her she would snap her head back to French kiss. She was very sensitive. She came almost immediately while I was going down on her. While we were in the mish position, all of a sudden it felt awesome and I could tell the condom broke. I thought about just going on but stopped after about 4-5 minutes and told her the condom broke. She asked if I wanted to go on and I told her no. We changed condoms and were back at it.

After the sex, we were just talking. It was about 9:30 PM. She was in no hurry to leave but I had to shower and go meet my amiga so I told her that I needed to meet a friend. She seemed kind of offended by this. She told me that usually guys only get one hour with her and that was it. She told me that she had no other customers that night and was willing to stay longer on her dime. I would have loved it but I needed to get going. So we get dressed. Her tits looked so fabulous I had to ask her for a picture to which she totally let me.

She was excited that I was gonna be in Rio during New Year’s Eve. She gave me her number and email address along with her real name. She asked me if I wanted to hook up with her in Rio. I will definitely try. She was just a really sweet sweet girl that I had a wonderful time with. We said our goodbyes and I jumped in the shower.

My amiga gave me the address where she was at but it must have been far because the driver at the hotel didn’t know where it was. He kept trying to look at a map before we left. I finally told him that we needed to go. I told him to get another driver if he didn’t know where it was. He called my amiga and got directions. It was on the outskirts of town. It took about 25-30 minutes to get there. The cost he explained would be $30 US. I told him ok. It took a while and he had to ask for directions about 3 times but I made it there. Then he told me that there were no taxis out here so he asked if I wanted him to pick me up. Yeah, I did. No way I wanted to be stuck out here. He gave me his number and told me to call him 30 minutes before I wanted him to pick me up so he could come out. Again, he said it would be $30 US for the return trip. (Yeah, ouch. I would spend over $100 US in taxi fares my first day in Mexico City).

When my amiga opened the door I was very very happy. She was just a really sweet girl that was pretty on the inside as well as the outside. We really clicked! She was a “nice girl” though and I knew I’d most likely not score this weekend. She might even be a virgin?? We talked till 1 AM and then I called the driver to pick me up. I was very tired at this point. The driver asked me if I wanted to hit the clubs but I just went back to hotel. I couldn’t sleep so I called up one of the girls on the Sexyservadoras site again. One of the girls answered but it appeared to be an agency. She told me she had a “very pretty girl from Argentina”. Perfect! Send her over. It was $250 US for 2 hours. The girl’s name was Dora. She was a very pretty brunette from Buenos Aires. It was perfect since I love Argentina! Same routine as before. I called to the front desk and let them know I had an “amiga” coming to my room. No problems at all.

Again, another great session although she wouldn’t let me take any pictures. It was hard paying this much money. It has been a while since I paid these kind of rates. I had spent $450 US in one night on only 2 girls. Yeah, cheaper than the US top escorts but admittedly still very expensive. I have no idea on the club scene but I hear it’s expensive and not all the girls are a sure thing.

The rest of the time I spent with my amiga. I’m sure you mongers could care less about that info so I’m ending here. We did a lot of fun things together. I will post some pictures of my room, Lola, the hotel, along with some pictures of the city. Also maybe some more detailed info on the city but I gotta run now.

Good luck fellas.

Godfather

Also, the city is full of these green/white VW Beetle taxi's. They are less than 1/2 the price of a private car from the hotel. If you use these taxi's just make sure you use the ones that have a License plates that start with the letter L or S. They will also have their "taxi #" on the side of the car. Only use the ones that have an L or S.

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The other ones without a license plate or don't start with these letters are "irregular" taxi's. They are not illegal per se but they do not pay taxes or a permit fee and many are dangerous I'm told. I had an interesting conversation with a taxi driver. (I am sending a photo of a taxi to Hombre so maybe he'll post it).

Taxi's here are expensive. A trip from the Zona Rosa to my hotel which was about 1 mile was $10 US in a private car. It was only $4 US in a green/white beetle taxi but I only used one of those taxi's once and that was only because I didn't see a private car.

I woke up one morning early and walked around by myself in the Zona Rosa. Yeah there is crime there but if you use common sense and don't look scared I think you'll be ok.

I was reading the local newspaper and they said on average there are about 497 reported cases of crime each and every day. The vast majority of it is petty crimes. It was interesting that the mayor of Mexico City just hired Rudy Guiliani's consulting company to help clean up Mexico City and it's crime problem. They are paying him $4.7 US million for a one year contract.

Most of the pictures I'm sending to Hombre are taken from my hotel. If you're going to Mexico City and aren't too worried about money than I'd recommend the hotel I stayed in. Also, I walked by the Four Seasons in the Zona Rosa and it was absolutely gorgeous. I think rooms there run about $300 - $400 US per night. There are many less expensive hotels too.

Mexico City isn't a city that anyone would go to specifically to hobby but if you're there on business or any other reason there are definitely some options but you'll just have to pay more than many cities.

Nice report, thanks, and your time with your amiga indeed sounds like a lot of fun. I think even the hardest core of us would love to have a cute young tour guide in a new location even if it turned out to be sexless. Funny how you wound up with the South American girls in the DF!

I keep hearing how Mexico City is insanely expensive, and I do not doubt this one bit. BUT... In a city that large, there would have to be at least a couple MILLION average joses that would be looking for extra-curricular activities on a typical Mexican budget. There has GOT to be an inexpensive pay for play option somewhere in the DF. I'm not suggesting that a weekend traveler go search it out, but it's bizarre that there's not more info available.

Porker,

Yes. I'm sure there is less expensive options. In fact, several of the drivers offered to take me to places outside of the D.F. (District Federal or Mexico City).

It WAS really ironic how I ended up seeing South American girls. I was amazed at how expensive things were there. There is so much poverty in that country. The average person only makes about $250 - $300 US per month. But many make much less than that. I was surprised that they are able to charge such high prices for things.

I hope to find out more about the city. My amiga was very sad this morning when we had to say our goodbye's. She asked me last night if I will return this weekend because she is still in town on her business seminar. I returned to my office this morning and she already emailed me. I could very well be one of the weakest guys in the world when it comes to chicas. I bought my ticket this afternoon and will be returning to Mexico City on Friday afternoon for 3 days. I booked the same hotel.

I most likely will not get a chance to hobby but you never know. Stay tuned....

Loved the image of the repairman with the girl. Very funny...Those pictures you took...they don't happen to be digital do they? Thanks for the story. There was a great big article on Mexico City in this Sunday's NY Times. It looked huge! Just like you said. Have good time this weekend..

Yes, all the pictures I took were digital. I emailed them to Hombre yesterday and he should have them up soon. I also got pictures of the Pyramids and they turned out great. I'll post those too if guys care. I figured you didn't care though and only wanted to see chicas. I like to get a total feel/flavor of a city so I like posting extra details/pictures. Hopefully you guys enjoy reading them.

Photo links added to above report

Speaking of how large DF is:

1- An amigo of mine who has lived down in Mexico for years claims that the government estimates of the population are hideously low -- that because so many people move to the DF when things fall apart at home, the government deliberately undercounts them to reduce the world perception of poverty in Mexico.

This guy claims that the actual population, as understood in Mexico, is closer to 30 million people, which would put the population of Mexico City at about the same as the entire nation of Canada.

2- Twice I've flown into the DF at night. The amazing size of the city really strikes you because you look out the window, and you're flying into this ocean of lights.

And twenty minutes later, you're STILL flying over an ocean of lights, but at least the downtown area is in sight.

Dem Gnomes

Great Report Godfather. It made me homesick for the old big ugly DF. I love that city. It is not a good place to hobby, but almost any gringo with game can get laid easily for free.

Don't be too surprised at all the money in the DF. Most of the wealth of an entire country is concentrated there. If even 10 percent of the population had money, that represents 2-3 million people with expendable income. Thats a larger population than all but 5 or 6 of our largest cities. And some of those people are mega rich. The owner of the company I worked for in the DF pocketed about 1.5 million US a year based on my estimates. And it is not a very large company he owns. But the distribution of the income of his companies is terrible. He takes it all.

Porker,

There are some cheaper alternatives in the DF. But you usually don't see many gringos in those venures. You would do fine because you are mexicanized, but it might not work so well for others. Out on Calzado Tlalpan there are some whore bars and alot of street action. It runs from 200-400 pesos for one shot plus the room in a seedy hotel. There are some gems out there, but you really have to look. There is also alot of street action around the Telmex building between Parque Sullivan and Circuito Interior. I have been sitting on a Friday night in an open air bar in the Zona Rosa and had girls approach me. 400 pesos for an hour.

But I maintain that if you are going to spend any time at all and you speak Spanish you can do reall well with amateurs. I know a very large, slobby, bearded, techno geek that was working for two weeks in the DF and he scored on several occasions with girls he met in bars in the Zona Rosa. He didn't even speak Spanish. He told me that he was going to start looking for work in the DF. He said he had not been laid that much in his life. LOL


Dem Gnomes,

The governemnt has no idea how many peopel are really in the metropolitan district. There is no way to really count them. And peopel don't cooperate with the census. But most experts( not government)agree that it is between 26-30 Million people. What amazes me is that somehow, despite all odds, it seems to function.

Glad you had a good time Godfather. And wishing you a big score this Friday on your return to DF. If this relationship continues, I might have to call you a Chilango pretty soon.

By visiting DF, I'm sure it will prepare you for future visit to Sao Paulo, Brazil. I haven't been to DF for 7 years and I thought it was huge until I discovered planet Sao Paulo.

It's not about the 90% of the regular Joses do or spend, it's what the other 10% riches do with their wealth. Over half of the world's top 10 hotels are located in third world or developing country.

I definitely agree with you gentlemen's assessment of DF. I think there could very well be more than 23 million people in Mexico City and the surrounding areas. It's also evident that many there are affluent. Dining out in the Zona Rosa it was clear at Angus Restaurant that most in the restaurant were NOT tourists. Or if they were, they were Mexicans from other cities.

One thing I noticed about Mexico City is I didn't see very many hotties around. From the airport, to the streets, to the tourist zones. The only hotties I saw were the waitresses at that restaurant I went to. I agree that many could score a normal chica here if you're not shy, speak decent spanish and make an effort. I flirted a little with our waitress. I asked about a cute girl that was working and she was quick to point out the girl did NOT have a boyfriend.

Also, I did see several street walkers out during the day. "Chilango" my amigo pointed them out to me. I have never picked up a SW and never intend to.

I'm looking forward to going back. The only downside is that the girl I met from Amigos.com already has told me "I love you". Yeah, I've been talking to her a few months on IM's and emails and a few times on the phone but I'm really careful not to lead them on. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. More later.

Great Post Godfather, it's a good thing you didn't try to monger venture on your own, it can be really dangerous, especially in the Zona Rosa outskirts.

I was there about a year ago on business and stayed in La Zona Rosa at the Marco Polo hotel.

I hit some of the local clubs there, but was in the mood for a Tijuana still massage. So I asked a waiter for info and he sold me I needed to hire a guide.

So I put up the 20$ USDLLS and got myself a genuine chilango certifide monger guide.

I asked him to take me to the massage parlors. BIG MISTAKE. Massage Parlots in DF are ilegal. They are underground places, nothing like TJ where they are publicly advertised.

So after walking maybe about 10 to 15 blocks (very scary neighborhood), we reached a small apartment house with a guard at the gate.

He opened the gate, we got in, and I just heard the lock behind me. In front of us was a mirrored glass door which also opened (I could see my stupid, already scared face on the mirror), we proceeded in and I also heard a doble deadlock bolt lock behind me.

I was trapped like a lab mouse my fellow monger brothers.

My heart started pounding faster than a rabbit when at the end of the dark hall was a mean, motherfucking 6 ft 2 " ugly chilango, speaking through a cell phone, high on coke, and at the same time ordering me and my guide (which by this time didn't look anything like the nice and fiendly "Armando the guide" I met 1/2 hour ago at La Zona Rosa") to walk into the main room where the "chicas" where suppose to be.

Things didn't get any better, entering to what was sold to me like heaven on earth where two fat, ugly 15 year old girls laying on a coach, watching the "novelas".

The mean, 6ft 2" chilango, coked motherfucker told me to make my selection, pay him the $40 dlls for full service, and get my ass upstairs.

I was in a very diffucult situation for me my brothers:

1.- I am no child abuser and the only feeling I had for my two selections was pitty.
2.- I had one glass door, doble dead bolted, one steel locked gate, one coked raging bull freak, and one guard between me and freedom.

I got up and told the chilango "Nice crib you've got, but I don't like your merchandise". "I wish to go now".

At that moment, I felt I would never see the outdoors again. These people are the type that wouldn't think twice to take you out right there and take your 200-300 dlls in your wallet. Nobody I know knew I was there, I would just disappear like the hundred or so people that disappear in Mexico City each day in situations similiar like the one I was in at that moment.

MY LEAVE WAS DECLINED by the coked chilango. And his unfriendly face got unfriendlier. DEFCOM 4. I was in no position to negotiate with him, so my only chance was my best friend at the moment, "Armando the guide".

I told him to get me out of there by any means and he would be handsomely rewarded.

He negociated for about 20 minutes behind closed doors, and thanks to our gardian angels my fellow mongers, I was let free from what seemed to me the closest I got from being held hostage.

To celebrate, he took me to the Hawaii Bar, I got two dancers to sit with me, got my private dances all night and just had plain stupid TJ style fun.

Lesson of the story: Don't try to monger by yourself in Mexico City, don't try to "expiriment" with any underground activity in Mexico City, leave your stupid tourist face at home, don't trust anyone.

Hasta la Vista

The masterater

Sounds downright scary masterater.
The Beetle cabs have the front passenger seat removed so passengers can get in and out of the back seat easier.I saw last week that Mexico City was going to make them retire all of those green beetles and get new four door,more passenger friendly cars and was going to make loans to the drivers to get them.Many of the drivers were disgruntled at this news saying the new cars would use more gas and be more expensive to repair.
Over by the Zocalo for free one can go see the Presidential palace and check out the murals depicting the history of Mexico painted on the walls and check out the gardens.They will have you leave your ID with the guards when you get your pass to enter and will give it back when you leave.
In the evenings Girabaldi is a big square that has bands from all over mexico playing thier regional music dressed in fancy mariachi type outfits.They will sit you down,fix you a drink and seranade your chicas with her requested songs if they know them and if they don't will find a band that does for a fairly cheap.
If you plan on seeing things like Museums in DF don't plan it on a sunday or monday.On sundays it seemed like most of the town was shut down and all the museums were closed on mondays also.
I stayed at a nice hotel that was First open by President Porfirio Díaz in 1904, it was the highest building in Mexico City at that time.By the end of Mexican Revolution, President Venustiano Carranza established his residence there.
I got a deal off the internet for a lot less than thier published prices and stayed in a master suite that had a jacuzzi tub and a 25 foot balcony overlooking Reforma.It was called Hotel Imperial and is located at Paseo De La Reforma64.I would stay there again.
Putanero

Damn Masterator. Scary story. I just got back from my second trip to Mexico City in 2 weeks. You are absolutely right. Mexico City is NOT the city you want to "experiment" in. I personally did not experience any crime and I never felt scared but I was always with drivers from my hotel.

The thing about Mexico City is it is just a HUGE mass of people. They perform a census every 10 years. The last one in 2000 had an 'official' count of 23 million people. Many estimate more than this.

This trip I didn't have time to hobby at all. I hit if off really really well with my amiga I met last week. I maintain that Mexico City is NOT the city you go to solely to hobby in. It was interesting that I passed a strip club called Solid Gold (same as in Buenos Aires). I was told by my driver that many of the girls are hotties and can be enticed to sleep with you outside of the club for around $150 - $200 US.

Putanero, I highly doubt they will be able to get rid of all those green beetle taxi's. There are just so many of them.

There is so much to see and do in D.F. I went to a town called Xochimilco. It was about 40 minutes outside of the city. It was kind of cool. It had this waterway with all these boats that took you on trips through the various canals. It's a pretty romantic trip. The cost of the private ride there was $90 US.

I stayed in the same hotel (Fiesta Americana Grand Chapultepec). Rate was the same at $180 US + 17% tax per night. They remembered me and upgraded me to the Executive Club level again. Great hotel with a great staff.

One night I went to a disco with my new novia called VIP. It was a pretty hip place. Entrance was $22 US each. The club was filled with a pretty good crowd but again...I don't think the girls in Mexico City are as beautiful as many cities in Latin America. My girl is a hottie and is not from Mexico City. She was just there on business. It was funny because when she went to the bathroom...all these Mexican girls would talk to me.

I doubt I'll go to Mexico City again any time soon. Lots of history and culture there but I wouldn't go there unless I had a reason (business or otherwise). The city is as expensive or more expensive than any expensive US city.

Good luck all.

Since I work in Mexico I pass through Mexico City quite often to connect to other cities. This city has just gotten out of control. While I have not experienced any problems myself, I rarely hit the clubs there anymore, but I did have a co-worker (Mexican living in Mexico) who was accosted on reforma by two men and pushed into a taxi, then they took him to an ATM made him withdrawl money, robbed him of his jewelry and then let him go. Obviously, the taxi driver was in on the plot. The appauling thing was that this happened right on Reforma at 11:30 am!

The way I figure is that I can forgo a night (usually there only one night) of company for safety sake. Chances are good that you can find a woman in the hotel bar (major hotels). Last week I was at the Sheraton Towers and met a very classy and gorgeous woman in the bar area. I invited her to dinner at the hotel and spent the entire night with her for $250 (including tip). Sounds like a lot, but for Mexico City this is actually a pretty good price.

She gave me her email and cell phone number, so I'll probably give her a call every time I stop in DF.

Adelitaboy,

1- Don't hold out on us, man! Give us a thorough review! (You don't have to hand out the number, but other vital stats would be good.)

2- What the hell are you doing? (See my thread in "Off Topic" with this title.)

Dem Gnomes

With the average annual income being just over 8g's, and the amount of sexual content on TV, u know there has to be a vent for the average jose to get his rocks off and still eat too, right? So, that just leaves the question of where, and how safe is it? Well, the good news is there are places in Mexico city where u can get laid for 15 bucks for 30 minutes. One is La Merced. Take a cab and have the cabbie cruise slowly. 1 out of every 15 girls will be attractive, but there are a bunch of girls there. When u get out of the cab, she'll ask u to follow her, the important thing here is to not look scared, otherwise ull have victem written all over u. Never go here at night! The trade off is its very dangerous to walk around, have the girl wait with u when your done to get a cab for u, tip her an extra 5 or something. I scored with this fine little aztec girl, 5,0, 19, slim, dark skin, large olive eyes. Once we were in the room she got real cold and started laying down all these rules and was raising the price 5 dollars for every extra. Just remember women are like cats, give em a lot of affection and they'll start to warm up. I know she did. after 2 minutes of complementing her skin and eyes and body she was into the session and i made her come 2 times. Oh, the hotel she'll take u too is a broke down f*** house with no running water, so remember, u get what ya pay for! heh. happy hunting.