Jakarta, I Like; KL not so Much

After a decent stop in Singapore and a terrific visit to Jakarta, I was really fired up to visit Kuala Lampur. However, I was disappointed that all of the girls I saw there were either Thai or Chinese. There must be some native Maylay women, but I didn’t find them. The cost was also much higher than J-town.

I frequented an area around the Petronas Towers that was near my hotel. If you draw a line running through the two towers and through the mall entrance next door and on to the Mandrian Oriental, most of the venues are on a street running perpendicular to that line. There are two streets, a larger avenue which is on your right if you were standing in front of the mall entrance. The second street on the left is a bit smaller and leads to the several venues.

KL Map below:


I saw a gal that looked very Maylasian but she was talking to another expat, and it being late at night I was attracted to a Thai who was tall, had big tits and a sort of been around the block look to her (but in a good way). We ended up at the hotel across the street from the Jungle which has a big neon sign that says “SPA.” I don’t really recall the cost of the hotel or the girl. This hotel is located on the map where the life centre is shown, that is actually a bit to further down the block.

This Thai girl turned out to be sort of mercenary. However I was able to take photos as shown below. It turned out that she had after market tiddies. I had felt her breasts through her top with my arm and chest in the selection phase and they seemed soft enough. In fact she had the kind which are just an under lift job, which is probably the best kind. Her nude photos had to hide her face but you can see that she had a killer bod.

Photos: Jungle 01 02 03

She ws the type that displayed the hurry up and finish demeanor. I hate that, but what can you do? After I finished she jumped up and ran into the bathroom. I followed her in there to get a wash cloth for myself and found her squatting with her feet on the rim of the open toilet bowl taking a piss. That’s a new one for me.

The next day I went to the Royal de Spa which is located in the Life Centre on the map above. The map is on the back of their card. This is located above the TGIF which is on the ground floor. From the Petronas Towers side there is a TGIF sign, but the restaurant is on the flip side. Go up the ramp on the back and circle around and go up the escalator. There is a club at the top, but if you take a left you’ll find the door to the Royal de Spa.

This place seemed to have a number of Japanese customers. You indicate to the desk clerk that you want the “special” which is sex. My special included a massage but I indicated I wanted the special first. You get a locker and take a shower and change into a black two piece robe. You can get a Jacuzzi if you wish, but this seems to be just sitting around with a bunch of Japanese men so I passed.

I was asked to sit in a lounge for a bit. A gal came out with a clip board and tried to sell me on getting some extra spa services – hot rock massages and the like. Although she talked through her heavy accent about a facial, I don’t think she was describing what I was thinking of and I blew her off.

An attendant walked me back through a corridor of cabins to a couch area. Out came a line up. I would rate the line up as pretty much all 7s, without any 8s or 6s. All of the girls were Chinese. I asked about Maylay girls but I was told everybody was Chinese. I selected a girl who looked sort of mixed rather than pure Chinese. On to the room we went. The room was pretty Spartan and not at all fancy. Marked contrast to J-town brothels. A shower was there as well. I had just had a shower but she seemed to want to clean me up some more but she didn’t scrub any special parts that would indicate an ass eating. Darn. Her tan lines indicated a one piece bathing suit. Is that because of being in a Muslim country, or an indication that she is just a part timer? Who knows.

Photo: Spa Royal 04

This was the best session I had in KL. Nice and easy nothing special but warm and kissing and she allowed faceless nude photos.

Total cost was 205 Ring, about $65.

The third session in KL was very poor indeed. What little guidance exists on this site for KL talks about the health clubs in hotels. Based upon my one sample I didn’t find these worth beans. The Hotel Concord is on the street with the monorail running down the middle: Jalan Sultan Ismail on the map above. You make a right as you come from the Jungle Bar and the Concord is next to the Hard Rock. The health club is on the 2nd floor by the big curving staircase coming up from the bar. As you come up make a left and you’ll see the door 15’ from the landing. Don’t know why I’m giving such detailed instructions since the place sucked.

Inside there is a sign warning that it is illegal for Muslim men to be attended by a female masseuse. Pay for a special and they pick a girl for you. I dig line ups so another reason to spend your time at the Spa de Royal. The rooms at the Concord are nice and like the private rooms in a Japanese Restaurant. Sliding doors, blonde wood floors, mattress on the floor, and shower off of it.

My girl was a 6, cute face but thick middle and big ass. She did a poor job, no kissing, no this, no that, did bbbj but otherwise endured sex. I hate that. No photos, but then I see no point in posting pics of a girl you didn’t think was hot anyway.

So in the end, there is no comparison to Jakarta. I am sure that there must be better venues here but I didn’t find them and I wouldn’t waste a the time looking for them when you have better looking Indo women in terrific venues doing all sorts of nasty stuff with enthusiasm. You are better off pursuing Phoebe Cates in J-town.

I was there last year and hung out at the Beach Club Cafe a lot. Live bands most nights and more cooter than you could shake a stick at. Phiippers, Thais, and some locals thrown into the mix. The Virtual Tourist web site had a pretty good list of bars + reviews that I looked at before I went.

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/Malaysia/Wilayah_Persekutuan/Kuala_Lumpur-1282074/Nightlife-Kuala_Lumpur-TG-C-1.html

According to a conversation I recently had with Crazier, the reason you don't see a lot of Malaysian Malay workign girls is that there is a very favorable affirmative action progrman in Malaysia. If you are a Malay born in Malaysian you are given special education considerations that will pretty much garauntee a college education. Equipped with such a diploma and favorable employment considerations, at least a middle class standard of living is assured. These policies are a big contention and irritation with the Malaysian citizens of Chinese and Indian descent.

Mx,

I must add that despite the policy, there are some lazy local malay women who will spread their legs for quick money.

However, they are harder to find in the capital, Kuala Lumpur because enforcement officers (most of whom are also malay muslims) have a common understanding with the thugs who run the whore trade. Its all illegal and we will let you exist for the right money but, leave out our muslims sisters!

You can still find them, but they are fewer and far between.

The easiest place to find the quality looking malay girls would be the high-end Karaoke clubs that cater for the select wealthy Malay market. There are a few clubs. Unless you are prepared to throw good money away, I would not recommend them here.

A few of the other high end Chinese clientele Karaokes do offer these "nasi lemaks" as known by the local mongers too but, again, they don't come cheap.

Agreed with Crazier. If you want Malay action, then you'll have much better luck in Batam, Balai, Jakarta or Surabaya. Same color, same look and great attitudes too!!!!

Hmmm, having spent more than a few weeks in KL, I can assure you gentlemen that Malay companionship is not hard to find. Information on where to find that companionship, however, is. I agree that you'll find plenty of Chinese girls (dragon gals) at the hotel spas, but there are plenty of locals and island girls in the domestic health clubs. Ask the captain when you arrive and he'll tell you what's available as far as nationalities go. A pity I didn't know in advance that you were going, Jjgettis, I could have made some suggestions.

Wombat,

I agree totally that you can find them if you want & the captains of the health centres are more than willing to oblige if stock is available.

However, my point is that there are fewer "nasi lemaks" (Malays) in the "business" because of their better economic situation (a government policy).

In KL, (Federal Territories) there are even fewer because it is true that the local police apply the law more strictly on muslim women working in the trade in the capital.

Another thing mentioned to me by a long standing "phone-in" pimp contact is that he prefers not to list Malay girls because they go "missing in action" & end up giving out freebies to regular clients instead of earning more income! Not a good business option to them pimps!Great for customers though.

In some cases, you get "dayak girls" natives from East Malaysia - there are numerous different native groups! Locals are always excited to sample these types too!

Some places where we can find a few malay girls included Fed Hotel, Genesis, Puduraya Hotel, Furama, Green Elephant, Grand Seasons etc etc.

Outside KL, in Selangor, they were more easily found Blue Apple, the Mint Hotel (Ginza), Cititel, Crystal Crown, De Palma etc etc.

This list is long & the situation is always changing these days because of what locals call "big wind" (police raids).

One of my prettiest malay girls I ever did was in the HC of the Mint Hotel. Before & after me, there was a long queue of patrons as she was HOT.

On the Sammyboy forum, there were also a few infamous malay masseuse that were heavily sought after e.g. Sasha & Ayu of Blue Apple but that was years ago when I used to play in KL (long ago!)

Yes, in the ST back alleys houses of Chow Kit & Tun Sambathan whorehouse areas, you do get some older Malays whores and occasionally a needy young Malay on the make because of cash needs! Very occasionally only! There are also the low end Dangdut & Karaoke joints where you do get many "skanks" and the occasionally "5".

With cheap airfares because of the LCCs now operating & hubbing out of Singapore, KL & Bangkok, I have in recent 2 & half years ceased all mongering in KL & Malaysia because there is just so much better value in the nearby venues which include Indonesia, much of Thailand, Southern China, Vietnam, & if need be, the Phillipines.

Despite the fact that I spend at least 130 - 150 nights a year in KL & know the ground pretty well, for me, its just so much better to abstain, save the money & have my "hallelujahs" elsewhere.

One more thing, I remember bringing a friend out to the Beach Club for a drink and he said after a beer, "The women here are old and ugly!"

My response,

"Have a few more beers my friend, they will start looking more beautiful and sexy when you hit the 6th glass!"

Wombat: I had read thru this board but I am too new to think of sending private mails to the active members who may have up to date tips. I will try that next time. For the balance of the year I will be likely traveling to Brazil, Europe and North Africa.

Mongerx: I am aware of the preferences given to certain native Malay women, but I believe they are 60-70% of the population so that can't be a reason that they are of limited availability to the trade. I suspect the Muslim part is a contributing factor but also if most of the clients are visiting Japanese and Chinese businessmen who show a preference for lighter skinned girls could explain the all Chinese. I think my limited venues in and around the main biz areas highlighted that.

I am sure in smaller cities there are Malay girls available.

Crazier: I didn't find the Jungle bar to be full of uglies and I had had only a beer or two to judge that, just your older Thai girl mixture.


It is interesting that Thai girls have different standards of performance in different places around the world. I don't have enough data to judge KL, but I would rate the London internet Thai girls as the best I've had outside of LOS. Almost all anal, cim and kissing. Singapore is next, but kissing and bbbj only. Here in Sou. Cal the performance standards are awful, virtually sex and cbj only.

Jjettis,

Point taken, as you know, beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.

My friend was a youngish french fella and I am Singapore Chinese and, we were out of the Beach club in like 15 minutes that night for sure after making an extensive tour.

Malay girls are definitely available even in KL but they are just too much trouble and cost too much when Indonesia is just a short hop away! But, that's my perspective.

After all, KL was my first mongering venue starting more than 15 years ago and now, its off my charts for sure. I do average at least 130 nights a year for last 8 years in KL for work and rather keep my money for other venues despite my love for "nasi lemak".

Crazier,

Do you have any info on Taipei? I was planning on a trip to that city but it got canceled, however I was really at a loss to find any info on that place.

I have no problem on our different assessments of the Jungle, it was different nights. I think it is important to comment on looks even if people disagree. The overall selection was below par for Asia, but equal to or better than the other places I saw in KL.

When picking my Asian girls, I like you, prefer petite and cute. "Doll-like" is the term of art that I use personnaly to describe them. I will try different types on each trip just for the variety. I generally like the girls to be 18-22. I do find, though, that the 24-27 year olds can be better performers.

London is one of my most frequent business trips and I will get an incall Asian girl (150 pounds!)from one of several internet sites. I like that you can screen the selections for Petite! Here is one such link:

http://www.a1-asian.co.uk/petite.htm

I do go to Singapore as well and I am going to try and arrange a ferry trip across to Indo, since I loves me some Indo women so much. I will contact you for other advice before my trip.

Ciao.

Taipei is lousy for mongering unless you have a lot of money. Unless you speak the language or have a local to guide you, it's pretty inaccessible as well. Although I've never been there, I've read (and been told) about the massage place at the Asiaworld Holiday Inn. Good luck.

Jjettis,

My entire life experience for Taipeh consisted of a business trip more than 15 yrs ago so I am useless to you for that place. Plus, I did not monger at all except to go to a dico!

Am now based in Bangkok when for weekends when I finish my assignments in KL and otherwise fly into southern china which is where I love it.

Indo is great too and if you hearded that way, hook up with Mongerx my friend who is based there although he's always on the move too!

Its not bad in Singapore but, its not great! And of course more expensive overall esp if you are a foreigner.

S.

Does anyone have any information on Langkawi?

I actually had a good time with a muslim Malay in KL. I called up an escort agency and asked specifically for a 1st class Malay. They did send two thais to the hotel b4 realising that I would not be forced. The Malay I saw was absolutely beautiful, wearing that Malaysian dress and she was as smooth as silk, everywhere. I paid $480 for the whole night and must have pumped into her at least 5 times. Woth the money.

Rakshas:

Is that $480 US? If that's what it takes, I guess. I really want a Malay, so if you factor in the savings in time trapsing from place to place, maybe that is a deal.

jj

anybody have any info on mongering in Penang? I will be traveling there this summer and wanted to know what to expect, where to go and how to enjoy some company while there. thanks