2007/08 Elimgarak - Update on Panama from a Cardassian's Perspective

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By Elimgarak on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 09:23 am:  Edit

Hello to all my ClubHombre brothas. It has been a while since I have posted here so I figured I would share some brief notes on Panama from my perspective of living here now most of the year.

First, let me ad that AJ's guide is still paramount if you are a newbee to mongering in Panama. It covers all the basics, so I will assume you have already read that and just fill in some updates up to this point in the summer of 2007.

I now have a residence in Boquete and live here most of the time, but still get to the city often to do some business, and while I do I make sure I fuck around as much as possible. From a horny "retirees" perspective, Panama city is great since you can get laid in many different places for a good price.

I personally like the RIVER CLUB, which is located at the end of Via Argentina just before it intersects Via Espania where the BlockBuster Video is located. It can be a bit tricky to find since it is tucked away in a seculded back parking lot; if you are walking, find the BlockBuster on Via Espania, and just walk up Via Argentina about 300 feet on the same side of the street. There will be a gate on the right for the parking lot tucked into the back, and it is easy to miss. There is also usually a cop hanging out there for protection and who knows what, but as we know in Panama this is all legal so there is never a problem. If you are having trouble finding the RIVER CLUB door they will point it out for you. All the windows are blackened.

A friendly guy who has managed that place for years sits at a small desk and is usually watching some sporting event on a raised TV in the waiting area. I have never waited there and there are always an ample supply of good looking fuck madiens for hire. You pay him a flat rate of $60 and this includes everything the girl will do, which is the massage (yeah right! maybe a 3 minute rub down if you are lucky), the suck and the fuck. In all cases, the sucking and fucking are adequate and at times exceptional. I have a few favoritas there and we usually have a good time as they figure out who I will pick this time. Another thing I like about the RIVER CLUB is the girls are NOT ALLOWED to ask you for more money. This takes much of the hassle out of the session. If you want some extras, like BBBJ or a second squirt, you will have to tip further; but they are not allowed to haggle with you. If they do you can report them to the guy up front and he will throw them out.

Depending on the day there are usually 4 or 5 girls hanging out waiting to get laid. I have seen up to 15 there at one time on the weekends. If you go, you may want to experience JAWS. I call her this since she is a Columbiana with braces. Pretty good looking, and she is a real trip. She does this thing where she pretends she is falling in love with you, has this script she follows which is pretty funny, and then she goes to town on your dick in very interesting ways. You are not allowed to touch her however which is kind of odd; I mean, no tit sucking, ass bitiing or the like; she insists on doing it all to you as you lay there. She then tries to get you to call her sometime later and be her Novio, saying she was totally moved by the experience. Now I have experienced this act twice since she forgot who I was after the first time, and she went through the same fucking routine! Pretty hysterical! Worth experiencing if you ever go there though. As you go to pick out the girl she will always show you her braces so it is pretty obvious who she is. I just fucked her yesterday, but who knows how much longer she will be there. All in all, the RIVER CLUB is good fuck-for-the-buck.

If you are an adventurer, you can try your luck, and possibly play with your life, in Calendonia, which is a very local area at the end of Via Espania. Here you can find some hotties, but they can be underage so watch out! Police usually don't care about anything going on in this area so you'll probably be alright, but if you are caught with an underage girl giving you head in your car you will be in deep shit with the cops, especially if they decide to do a "sting" that night. Getting ass-reemed in a Panamanian jail cell late night waiting for the magistrate is not something I would ever want to experience. For the most part I think Calendonia is a shit-hole, and most of the whores walking the street look dirty and skanky to me. There are never any local walking the streets at night, as I have only seen gringos drive up around here looking for fuck-deals. You can get your dick sucked in the car for $5 or $10, and fucked anywhere around here for $20. Is the skank you just picked up really a woman? Who knows? Calendonia has a load of shit-hole motel/hotels, and if you like this kind of ultra third-world mongering you will be in paradise. A friend of mine from California comes to Panama twice a year and loves Calendonia whore fucking. He always finds good looking locals to fuck in motels or his car for cheap, and he gets a thril off of this. He is also an X-navy seal and pretty much knows how to take care of himself, so no one ever messes with him. Calendonia is for the adventurer mongerer and not for the meek.

OASIS on Via Veneto continues to be a good spot with good looking women; they went through their troubles over the past few years but have very much improved. You will pay $30 at the door, and unlike the RIVER CLUB where you don't have the hassle of negotiating, here you have to set up your price with the girl. I have a system here where I pay $30 for average service and $40 for exceptional, and I let the girl know that in my own funny way since I am fluent in Spanish. I have been going here 5 years and have never paid more than this. The OASIS has had some real hotties of recent so I suggest a trip there if you have never been. Just walk to the new Casino, Venetos, and on the same side of the street down a bit you will find it.

VENETOS Casino is a bit trippy these days. The girls in there expect more money and mark you for gringo green if you look the part. If the pickings are low for them they will be more aggressive in calling you over, otherwise if there are a lot of gringos in there you usually have to approach them. Twice I have picked up girls from there I like, and I paid each of them around $100 for the night as we fucked a lot and they fell asleep. Other wise I have not had the success many speak about in this place. The prices for everything are high here (drinks, etc.), and although the Sports Bar is nice to hang out in it is not worth it if you don't gamble. If you do gamble you'll have a better time here as it is the nicest Casino in the city. This place seems to work better for gringo gamblers/drinkers who want to hang out for a while. The girls watch you and see what kind of money you are spending and mark you accordingly.

Across the street from Venetos is MANOLOS rest. which is a prime resting place for fat or the chubbier whores looking for some cash. If you are fat or chubby yourself and not too particular, this may work good for you as the girls are friendly and negotiate a good rate for fucking and BBBJ. You can meet a girl sitting at the outside tables here and bring her back to your room for a $50 suck-fuck, all pretty easily; but then again remember you will not find the premium girls here.

If you have a car cruise the Via Espania strip a bit after 11pm. Street walkers, although cautious, have returned to Via Espania. Many of them hang around the Super99 overpass across the street from the actual store; others hang out in the bus stops pretending to be waiting for busses; but you will see them. They get snatched up pretty quickly by passing gringos in cars if they are decent looking, so you need to be quick on your feet; if you decided to pick her up on a second pass she may not be there. The street talent is increasing again on Via Espania and many are good looking. This usually increases around midnight, especially on the weekends.

The streets around Via Espania are also good for street walking talent, particularly down the side street of Manolos by the Suites Ambisador hotel and Hotel Marabella. I picked up a hot 19 year old Columbiana whore a few months ago in front of Marabella and she was particularly generous for $70; I fucked her for 2 hours in many different positions, got her number and continued fucking her all week for the same price per session. She really wore me out. You will also find a few street walkers roaming around the OASIS or thereby on Via Veneto. Some are okay, some are just plain fugly, others are really men! Be careful. If they are really men, they will most likely tell you and ask if you are into that kind of thing since they know if you take off their pants and find a dick they will most likely get the shit kicked out of them.

ESCORT serivces in Panama will charge you top dollar, but even here there is room for negotiation. They'll want upward of $170 per in-call to your hotel, but the girls are usually really good looking and many are accomodating. This has never been a favorite for me as I like to pick out my own. ESCORTS in Panama usually go through some kind of PIMP that you will meet as you call the number.

CLUB MIAMI is always good for a laugh and is similar to the RIVER CLUB. I like Miami since it is a well low pressure and non-negotiable. You'll pay $80 for all and get a good looking girl of your choice with decent full suck-fuck service.

GOLDEN TIME is alright. You'll pay around $90 here up front for full service as well, and the talent there is usually very good looking although a bit staged. If you really like the girl you can negotiate some after fucking at a good rate, but these girls work a lot and may not be able to accomodate you. They are always there fucking other guys. GOLDEN TIME is not a favorite place for me. It is very clean, nice, but can get boring. If you are new to Panama though try it out; I like their GIRL PARADE and for a newbee this will be entertaining.

BOLERO, which used to be one of my favorite places has CLOSED DOWN! SHIT!

Down the street there is a compromable rest. with Chicas down below in the bar area; same set up as Bolero used to be. I have hung out there a few times and the chicas have moved from Bolero to here (sorry, forgot the name).

As I mentioned before I now live in Boquete. You have to take a plane from Panama City into David, and then rent a car or take a taxi here which is around an hour trip. Boquete is good for a guy like me who has stable GFE's that I invite over for weeks on end to stay and fuck, but for mongering gringos there is absolutely NOTHING in the area for you. Boquete is filled with Americanos and looks like small town in Colorado or Vermont. The mountains are absolutely beautiful and the weather is nice and cool. Every where you go you see Americano retirees shooting the breeze and hanging out. This is a retiree town or vacation town for families, and not a mongering destination.

DAVID for all intents and purposes is an armpit. Perhaps a manicure, shaved armpit with deodorant (not a hairy, smelly German chick armpit ), but it is an armpit nontheless. You can find massage parlors here, and the pickings, although not as good as in the city, are moderate to above average. If you hand around David long enough and talk to the locals sooner or later some PIMP will show his face to you, and then as I hear from others you can get set up with some decent talent; but I have yet to experience anything like that. I eat dinner in David at times, but rarely hang there for too long other than shopping and the like for supplies. The city is old and unattractive, although over the past few years there have been a few new Casinos built and better places to eat are springing up. Who knows what the place will be like in 10 years.

Hope all this helps!

Elim Garak of Cardassia

By Jjgettis on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:07 am:  Edit

Good update. I also like the Oriental Relax which as you must know is across from the River Club in the open air corridor of the office building.

The advantage is that it is open during the day and the RC is a nighttime venue as I recall.

Being a non spanish speaking gringo I end up paying $63 there but enjoy myself. I've actually had better more GFE like sessions that at RC.

Good luck on the retirement in Bochette.

By Jjgettis on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:08 am:  Edit

Forgot to add the Oriental Relax is not oriental at all.

By Elimgarak on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:54 pm:  Edit

I got the impression that Oriental was closed but I could be wrong. Anyone going to the area just look across the parking lot to check it out. I imagine getting an oriental whore in a Panamanian whore house is like trying to get anything BUT a Korean whore in the US massage parlors.

Panama is changing due to the influx of gringos; not such a good secret anymore. It is important again to work NOT to overpay these girls. Panama is still the Wild West however and I believe good times can be had for all for the next decade or so.

Elim

By Tiny123 on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 01:45 pm:  Edit

Nice report. Question -- Where is Calendonia? Is it east or west of Farmers?

I'd rate Golden Time higher, the best MP in Central America IMHO, with prices to match. Miami deserves highlighting. It's my favorite strip club if I'm looking to get laid. The women aren't as hot on average as Elite and Le Palace, but the cost to do the deed is a whole lot lower. Two other places are worth mentioning -- La Bodeguita, a bar downtown, between Espana and the ocean. There are some hot Colombian freelancers there. Also a few good girls, so you have to be careful. And La Habana, a cigar bar across the street from the Marriott, is another good place for freelancers, although the women there on average aren't as hot as Veneto or La Bodeguita. My personal daytime favorite for massage has been Hawaii because I've had good luck there. The three times I went there, there were about 5 ugly women and one real hottie, and each time the hottie gave good service.

(Message edited by Tiny123 on August 10, 2007)

By Elimgarak on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 06:47 am:  Edit

Sorry to forget about those places you mention Tiny123: they are worth checking out as well but are never part of my routine. You can only get laid so much while in Panama City! This goes to show that there is an abundance of ample pussy here...........but again guys, haggle well. With most girls if you politely tell them "no thank-you, I'll find someone else," they cave.

Yes, I mentioned I enjoy Miami as well; I actually like it better than GT. For those of you who have not been to Miami yet it is walking distance from GT across the main road and down the next side street. Ask any cabbie and he will take you there for 50 cents from the GT/KFC parking lot in Tumba Muetra.

I have never tried La Bodeguita but it is listed on this board as good. Especially now that Bolero has closed I am sure this will become more popular.

I did not mention La Habana since I don't smoke and find the place a bit overwhelming with second hand carcinogens; but I have wandered in there often showing friends around and the pussy there is generally adequate to above average, and usually plentiful. If you sit there and just chill for a while outside, it's hysterical to see how many times a young girl will come out holding hands with some old-coot gringo with a big belly and silver hair, walking across the street to the Marriott. "Oh gee, maybe they are father and daughter visiting from Nebraska. Mommy must be Spanish."

A buddy of mine and I almost fucked this columbiana with HUGE, and I mean HHHHHUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE TITS from La Habana, but as the conversation went on and negotiation continued, we just got sillier and sillier and eventually could not stop laughing.......so after a while she could see we were pretty much wasting her time......it was an off night in Panama City and she was willing to tag fuck us both for around $150 total. We probably should have done it but...........

Tiny123, you mention there are a few "good-girls" at that bar. Do you mean GFE types? I ask because GFE's are my favorite and personal choice, and I have been looking for new places to fuck local girls that are not hookers.

By the way, you most likely know where Calendonia is. It is that whole area West of the city I believe that is pretty run down, and where the locals tend to do a lot of shopping. It is the first thing you come to if you are coming off the bridge from the interior, or coming from the restaurants at Amador. I don't know where Farmers is.

Panama City is pretty much a "cock-fest" and there are a myriad of ways to get laid, so take your pick gentlemen. When I return to my house in Boquete after being there for a week or so, I feel like I never want to get laid again...............this lasts about 2 weeks before I am us for another trip.

Elim

By Alecjamer on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 07:16 pm:  Edit

Great update Elim! I got your e-mail and I started writing back, but it turned into a book. I'll get it out to you eventually.

Guess what? On the spur of the moment I broke away and blazed a trail to Panama late July to see my novias...I'm down to two regulars...yes, the primary one is still in my good graces. The other one I've known since she was 19...she's turning 29 this fall...stays in touch with me via e-mail...we always fuck when I visit.

Elim...I suspect we probably didn't sit far a part out at Amador...almost every night I was having dinner out there...TGIF, Mi Ranchito, Benigans, and someplace with a name that ended in Carbon...food great, but at US prices...well, Ranchito was Pan priced.

You are spot on with your update...but I didn't know Boleros shut down? I drove by and even had dinner at Viejo Piepos...up the street from Bolero's...but I didn't try to stop in...too bad they shut down. I see they are building a new medium high-rise there.

Someone above in this thread asked where Caledonia is? If you drive down Balboa Avenue from Paitilla down past the Miramar Towers, past the (BNCP?) Bank with the white concrete swoop design on the side, and continue past the Balboa monument (mini-park on your left)...then drive a few more blocks and then turn a 90-degree right hand-turn and drive in 4-5 blocks...you will be in the heart of Caledonia. Caledonia = Street Whore Central.

Although I spend most of my time with my novias...I did break free to sample the fruit. I stopped at River Club...I paid the happy dude at the desk $20...there where two chicas there...JAWS (braces) and another one. I know now that I picked the wrong one Elim...I took the other one...her name was something that sounded like E-Bay or E-May (no negotiation really...I said $40 and she said okay)...well, she turned-out to be a lousy fuck...she tried to hold the condom the entire time we fucked...I found her condom holding so distracting that I rolled her over with me in the on-top cowboy position, I pulled the condom off and beat-off on her tits...actually, a first for me...I usually do not do that. Then, I was going to walk-over to Relax Oriental to say hi to the big tittied blond madame...we go back many years...but since I was sneaking-out on my novia, I didn't have a lot of time, so I had to get back to the hotel.

During my trip I also snuck over to Hawaii Center...there were two Colombian chicas there from Cali...over three visits I fucked one twice and her darker morena friend once. The darker morena one I fucked once loved to suck cock (bare-back)...I let her go at it and she literally kept sucking for more than 20-minutes...and I mean real sucking...not just licking. I had to stop her so that I could fuck her...I believe her name was Lore...her friend I fucked twice was Maury...I'm sure they are both still there. At the door I paid $20...I negotiated $40 with each girl in the room...but I gave them each an extra $5 propina for their extra good service. Overall, very eager fucking machines.

I also visited Caribbean Center...I fucked a Pan chica with a hairy pussy...she said her name was Dulce (probably a made-up whore name). She had a 5-year-old kid, but still had milk in her tits...it wasn't really sweet mother's milk like those who have newborns, but it was fun to milk her nonetheless. She and I fucked for a full-hour...by the time the the phone in the room buzzed we both were a sweaty mess...we fucked hard. My cost $60 complete.

All the other fucking I did was with my regular novias...get this...both were actually on the rag when I arrived and I had to wait a few days...what are the chances of that? Being a good boyfriend...I cuddled with them (each on different days, of course, as they don't know each other)...but then, I made an excuse to slip-out for a few hours to get laid.

I fuck around on my wife...I fuck around on my novias...I just fuck around...but I am amazed that I have to sneak away now when I am in Panama. Maybe I need to go to Colombia and start-over?

Give me another 2-years Elim...then I will be retired. We'll do some whore mongering together then.

AJ

By Tiny123 on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 07:28 pm:  Edit

Hey Elim, By "good girls" I meant nonpros. Farmers is on the east end of Espana, in a neighborhood that's a little dangerous at night. It's a club that's open really late. The couple of times I've been there, there were mostly nonpros, and the majority (but not all) weren't all that attractive. They were easy though, so it might be worth checking out given that you're looking for local girls that aren't hookers. I understand that some of the Colombianas used to wander into Farmers after closing time in GT and the strip bars, maybe they still do. That's after my bedtime.

By Elimgarak on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 12:57 pm:  Edit

AJ -
Thanks! Great to catch up with you. Drop me that personal email and I'm sure we'll have more laughs. You had told me you were going to be there in July, and I am sure we were there in PC at the same time, but I know how anonymous you like to be.

Tiny123- So tied up with business and Novias when I am in PC that I too don't have too much time to do anything else; The GFE's knock you out sexually so you are not interested anyway in going on the prowl, at least in my case.

Elim


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