All that's Platynum is not gold. After spending some time sitting with Platynum´s webmaster Adriana looking at the girls on her websites, she suggested I might enjoy spending time with "Clara". She described Clara as a tall English speaking fashion model and her photos certainly bore that out. It looked as if she had an enticing body as well. I asked her to give Clara a call and see if she was available to come to ArtSuites right away. Adriana called me back and and told me Clara would be at my door in 30 minutes. It turns out she lives in the Recoleta district where ArtSuites is located and so it was a short taxi trip.

When Clara showed up, she looked to be about 5'10" and 130 pounds with long brown straight hair, perhaps 25 years old. A pretty face, though a little harder edged than the professional photographs, with a smile that would benefit from some brightener, but definitely a keeper in the looks department. Her English was actually fairly good and we sat on the couch for about 20 minutes talking about our lives, relatives etc. When she took off her long denim jeans coat, I could see she had a very nice set of breasts. I invited her to move closer to me which she promptly did. Though she was content to nuzzle, she deflected kissing. A yellow flag went up, simply because my experience has been that if a BA girl shows reluctance to kiss or get quite friendly quickly, it is more often than not a sign that the session will not be great.

She suggested we go into the bedroom, and after consulting with myself for a microsecond, I agreed. Her blouse and jeans went away, showing a pair of moderately conservative white panties and bra. She turned around and sat down on the bed with her back to me. This is when I figured out -- with the six inch square tattoo on her upper left back as a clue -- that her real name was probably Patricia. Out of my duds with equal speed, I lay on my back and she moved across the bed to me, still clad in her whites. I unclasped her bra and a truly lovely pair tumbled out to greet me. She snuggled for a moment and I asked her to lose the panties which she did in a smooth, graceful gesture. She returned to her spot and asked for a condom. I told her they were in bedside drawer but that we wouldn't be needing one now as I intended to enjoy oral sex for quite a while.

She told me she didn't do bbbj. Oops. I explained that not only was it typically necessary for me to get my rpm's up, but that I also greatly enjoyed it, a fact I had talked to Adriana about. I said, in a quite nice and neutral way, that it would probably be best if we ended the session. (I have learned that if for any reason, you get a bitter taste in the course of a session, it rarely gets better, if you persist).

At this point Clara's warmth and gentility disappeared more quickly than ice in a nuclear blast, and she had Adriana on the cellphone in a heartbeat. A minute or so of very rapid and somewhat agitated (at least on this end) Spanish followed and Clara/Patricia handed the phone to me. I told Adriana I was sorry there had apparently been some sort of misunderstanding, offering that it very well might have been my fault in not making my feelings about bbbjs "crystal" clear to her, and said that I understood it would be fair I would pay something for the girl's trouble, but wanted her to leave. I asked Adriana what amount would be fair and she said half the normal rate. I quickly agreed and asked her to tell Clara. She did and the phone call was over. I told Clara I had no change in dollars and asked how many pesos would be fair. To my surpise she reflexively responded 300 with some force, at which point I did the big gulp, and made a quick decision to simply get her out of my rooms ASAP. I didn't want to queer my connection with Adriana, but this girl has not seen 600 pesos for a session in many moon. I decided that the difference in money was not as important in getting her out and paid uncomplainingly.

So what did I learn here. One, to get things clear DIRECTLY WITH THE GIRL BEFORE she shows up. (actually this I knew but did not heed my own experience, to my experiential and financial detriment). Two, pick the girls yourself.

Would I warn others off Clara/Patricia. You bet. Not because she will only do covered bjs, but because her evil twin personality still makes me shudder, not to mention the exorbitant half price. YMMV but there are just too many others who make dealing with this totally unnecessary.

Thanks for the report, but I have a question: If you negotiated how to get her out of your room with the agency, why didn't you ask the agency how much the normal rate was during any of this (or previous) discussions?

WARNING....if SFHOmbre posts anything about me, I am denying everything.....smile...Actually, we went out last night with two chicas...dinner, a few drinks.....and a strip tease, plus, back in the apartment....my first 4some!!! Amazing what a few bottles of Chandon Champagne will do to ones head.....ah, the good life in Buenos Aires....

Oh boy Clara/Patricia...she forgot that she's in her 30s and no longer the teenage local Guess model she once was.

You're absolutely right, ask for recommendations, but always rely on your own monger instinct and pick them for yourself.

Better lucks tomorrow SFH.

SH Hombre,

The memories of Clara. I guess that's why I only saw her once. She did the same to me about a year and a half ago, and even before her boob job. No kissing, and no bbbj were allowed. This is definitely not the norm in BA.

Sorry you had such a bad time with her, but you are definitely right in that there are so many other options in town, why bother.

The girl that I was with over dinner the other night was so nice to me the week before, that is the reason that I invited her to dinner with us. The next day in the afternoon, I stopped by Orleans Cafe, and brought back a pretty blonde who was dynaminte. Because of her performance, I've invited her for dinner and the rest of the evening next week.

I actually like this way of selecting dates for an evening, base on performance. So maybe we now have a new acronym for PBS: Performance Based Selection. I like that, and think I will stick with it.

Good luck with the rest of your stay.

Moondog

SF Hombre, Sakebomb & Moondog,

Thanks! Your comments have dissuaded me from contacting Clara on my Nov BA trip. You guys have saved me both time and money. Looks like Clara's a beautiful ice princess, which is not what I'm looking for...

Moondog's PBS plan sounds like the way to go.

Gent99

Yeah. Sakebomb is right. Clara is in her 30's NOT her 20's. I never booked with her but I could tell she is older. I know a dude that likes her alot. In fact, he is taking her to Italy in a few weeks. I'm not sure what he sees in her but to each his own.

I also agree with your decision to just pay her what she wanted and not create a scene. So many choices in BA.

No offense guys, but "paying chicas what they want" and "not creating scenes" is one reason there are so many Clara types around. Go to the Blue Marlin in Costa Rica and Help Disco in Rio-you'll see tons of women just like Clara. I'm sure there are pleny in BA as well.

Throwing money at chicas only screws it up for the next hombre. I wonder what Clara will ask the next Gringo for-1000 pesos? $500 dollars? Better yet, some Gringo will probably pay it rather than say no.

I'm not naive enough to think that we can really make a difference in the overall scene, but at least for members of this board who should know better, can't we at least agree not to pay for sessions that didn't happen? One other word of advice...When quoted any price verbally in any Latin country your first response should be to counter for 1/2 that price at maximum, maybe less if you're a Gringo. It DOESN'T MATTER if you can afford what they quote. You should do it to help the next hombre.

Just a thought,

HC1

I CONCUR WITH HC 1. But SF Hombre's story is a valuable lesson for all readers.

Americans abroad are commonly non-confrontational (understandable, you never feel as confident when you're out of your home turf), which leaves us VULNERABLE to all sorts of tricks - claiming price quoted was dollars not pesos, anger (which is often feigned), crying (guaranteed feigned), demands for taxi fare/extra tips, etc.

Just by BEING FIRM, you can overcome that. If the chica you're having a bad experience doesn't like it, then in a POLITE, even-measured voice (never raise your voice) and with an impassive face tell her unequivocally TO LEAVE. You can still be a gentleman, maintain your dignity and not lower yourself to her level while still being STRONG. Being strong with her will work!! If she argues, add that she can sue you if she wants more.

SF Hombre, you did the RIGHT thing by calling it off when you weren't enjoying the experience. And you were RIGHT to offer her compensation because she did come to your place, was physically attractive and was willing to "perform," just not to your tastes (nor to mine). But YOU should have decided the compensation, not her. As there was no "consummation," 100-150 pesos would have been appropriate. Likewise, if you had completed the session, you should have paid the (previously agreed to) price, sent her home with no tip or cab fare, told us of the unsatisfying session and chalked it up that it was still better than a dental visit.

If Clara had acted so unlady-like when you said 150 pesos, you should have given her 50. Telling her if she didn't leave immediately, she wouldn't even get that. What's the worst that will happen, she'll never agree to see you again???!!

As for trying to maintain good relations with Adriana. I agree, it's good to not burn bridges. But if Adriana is any sort of a businesswoman, she should understand (as should the escort) that she's better off in the long-term having satisfied customers rather than satisfied escorts. Just look how fast one bad review via this forum spreads. A call to Adriana informing her of the incident and of Clara's unlady-like behavior (that's a good and accurate zinger to use) would likely have maintained your links to Adriana intact.

I've noticed more and more escorts being listed in BA over the past 2 months. Means there are plenty of other fish in the sea for us, and more competition for the established chicas. The Clara's of BA will make themselves extinct if they continue to carry on as such, but not if we give in to them to just "avoid a scene.".

However, I do want to THANK SF Hombre. His sharing his story alerted us to Clara as a piranhha chica. I'm sure there will not be unanimity in agreement in this forum that SF Hombre did the right thing; nor that my suggested course of action is correct either.

However, this should give us all food for thought and to be perhaps mentally prepared with our own course of action should you ever face a similar situation.

Again, thanks to SF Hombre for sharing this incident with all of us. It was certainly valuable for me as I was planning on calling Clara,

Gent99

PS A parting, appropriate comment to Clara given her behavior would have been: "This was obviously a mistake on my part. I was looking for a LADY, not someone like you." In castellano: "Disculpa mi error. Estaba buscando una dama, no alguien como Udsted." Again, use a neutral voice, she'll get the message...

Gentlemn99,

Good post.

Gent99, calling "Clara as a piranhha chica" isn't fair in this case. The way I looked at it from the post was that there was no effective communication between SFH and Adriana from the beginning. Technically, a specific request for BBBJ wasn't understood or heard by Adriana.

This post reminds us that not all SA women do BBBJ, and Clara is one of them. Remember she changed her personality only when the mood was gone and the session was suggested to be canxed. Does she have the right to be mad or pissed? We don't have an answer for that.

And no I'm not defending her.

Sakebomb, as I said, "there will not be unanimity in agreement in this forum." Your point regarding Clara is well taken.

The important thing is SF Hombre's incident is a situation we all can learn from (or re-learn from). It's worth thinking through beforehand of "what would I do?" No, right or wrong answer as each monger (and chica) is different.

So, the value of this exchange is that it is food for thought. Since you felt you had to comment on my comment, it shows it made you think, and likewise made me re-think my judgement. This is good for all forum readers.

Guys:

In order to avoid this happen often, it is better to define a "return price". To me, ar$150 for a session seems to be the standard price for a cute girl. 50% of that is ar$75. You should state your argument clearly:

"El precio usual es 150 pesos, y la cancelación es la mitad, o sea, 75 pesos".

(Usual price is 150 pesos, and the cancellation price is half, that is, 75 pesos)

Stick to that and you won't have problems regarding to this issue.

It is important to notice something that I read before: NEVER let the girl set the price in the middle of a discussion. YOU should set the price beforehand. I know that this takes some charm away from the experience, but it is necessary to avoid misunderstandings (the girl knows what she's getting and so you do).

You may take the rule of discussing the price before giving the girl the coordinates of your hotel.

Hope this helps,

Andres