2002/10 Mw39 - Nogales, Mexico - October 10-12, 2002
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2002/10 Mw39 - Nogales, Mexico - October 10-12, 2002
In Nogales expect to find eight or so strip bars (a.k.a. sex clubs), plenty of women, and cheap prices by American standards. Nevertheless, you can get ripped off if you are not informed.
Finding the clubs: You can easily walk to the clubs from the border crossing. The main concentration is five clubs across the railroad tracks. To find these, after crossing the border take your very first opportunity to turn left and walk along the street (Ave. Lopez Mateos) to the first intersection (were several angled intersections meet). Turn left again to cross the street (Ave. P. Elias Calles) and keep going until you cross the railroad tracks. Look for the bright lights and the many street hawkers used by the clubs who aggressively invite (often implore) you to enter their club. An alternative is two clubs in the other direction. Instead to taking a left at Ave. P. Elias Calles take a right and look for these clubs in the other direction. A map is available at Club Hombre (see Mr. Bill’s Nogales Page). If you are at all concerned about pathfinding, consider hiring one of the many ‘runners’ who offer their guiding services for tips. As you cross the border expect runners to approach any single male or group of males asking if you want to go to a “titty bar” or if you want to find girls. Expect to tip a runner $0.50 -$2.00 depending on the kind and length of guiding service you seek from them. Many runners also serve as “free lance pimps” and will find you a prostitute. I met Joel who, according to his t-shirt, is a charter member of the IAP (International Pimps Association).
Finding the women: This ain’t hard. Just look like an guy looking for girls. By entering any of the clubs you are sending the message that you want sex in some form. Sit down, order your drink(s), and start looking around at the show or the many girls sitting in the bar. Expect to be visited by these girls. Some will sit in your lap. Some beside you. And some will immediately start rubbing over you. Expect the waiters to be asking if you want them to arrange a lap dance or sex for you. You may want to do this as some of the best girls I encountered were not aggressive. Access to these 'shy' girls is usually through the waiter, but you can approach them yourself if you wish. Take your time. A nice freebie is the chance to fondle (and be fondled) by the girls that visit you. There is even a good chance for titty kissing and twat tickling as part of these preliminaries. I felt it was appropriate to tip the girls who visited me (usually $1.00) even if I declined their offers. In the clubs there are two general modes of time with the girls. First is a table dance. These are topless, full contact, titty face slapping experiences, usually in a quiet corner. They make dances in the U.S. pale in comparison. Second is private time with the girl(s) of your choosing. These are in booths with curtains or doors so privacy is ensured if you want sex with your girl.
Finding the right price: The prices for table dances vary ($7.00 - $12.00) but are still cheap by American standards. The price for private time varies by the services you are seeking. The price begins at $20.00-$30.00 for the bar and girl to share and that buys you the chance to be private with your girl. If you want sex the girl will negotiate directly with you for that extra pleasure. I paid an additional $30.00 for a blow job from Marilla in Placer’s Club. She is a 5'6" dynamo with a terrific body and a mouth that is meant for loving. When I was done, she asked, “You like my lips.” Well, what could I say, except, “Yes!” I did not negotiate for sex so I am not sure what you can expect, but Marilla asked for $50 for the blow job and easily negotiated down to the $30.00
I did decide to buy straight sex through Joel the free-lance pimp and had a bad and a good experience doing so. The bad experience was with Joel who offered me a girl for an hour for $100, total, including the hotel, condom, clean up. I said yes. He asked what kind of girl I wanted and then went off to find one. When he, the girl, and I went to her hotel room, he then put the pressure on me for a big tip ($30.00) for setting this up. I declined expressing my displeasure with his telling me one price and then expecting another. I gave him $20.00 just to get past this bad point and he accepted (grudgingly) and left. Moral: ask you pimp ahead of time if he expects a tip in addition to the price quote. The real pisser for me was that he also took $35.00 from the girl for setting me up with her. I guess no matter what the business, middle-men are expensive and not very helpful. The good experience was Cindy - the girl Joel pimped for me. She was a petit and self-confident, but responsive woman who was accepting and willing to please as part of our exchange. I had a great time with Cindy and given the fact that Joel ripped her off for $35.00 I gave her a $20.00 tip - which she seemed to sincerely appreciate. If you have followed the story so far, you should now realize that her payment to the pimp means good sex is available for about $65.00 by taking the middleman out of the picture. My guess is that this is cheaper than you can get in the clubs, but, obviously, more complex to arrange. Your options? I can think of two. Use a pimp the first time to learn the ropes and then negotiate directly with the girl for subsequent visits. Or you could meet the girls in the clubs (Cindy also worked in Cherry’s) and ask them if they will meet you off site and for how much. It was obvious that Joel does not “own” his girls as is the case for American pimps. He was just the middleman and can be easily avoided, if you are careful.
What to take: Tipping is your main mode of getting things done in the Nogales sex industry. For example, most of the clubs allow private entrepreneurs to maintain their toilet facilities and these self-employed attendants are in the toilet with you, ostensibly keeping the place clean (some are not good at this) and doing you little favors like handing you the paper towel after you wash. What do they expect? You guessed it - a tip. So, when you cross the border have a good number of quarters and dollar bills in your pocket (I like to have mine in my front pocket so I do not have to flash my wallet too much) and be ready to offer attendants, runners, waiters, girls, etc. tips as the need arises. I also recommend you hide your valuables (I use a secret place) and take a couple of condoms although the girls I visited all had them.
Other things to expect: Using U.S. currency will work just fine. Do not bother exchanging for pesos. I was pleasantly surprised to have club bouncers search me for weapons as I entered several of the clubs. It made me feel a bit more secure in these clubs. Moral - leave your weapons at home (including pocket knives). Begging is widespread on the streets. Make a decision before you go how you will handle this. For myself, I set aside a few bucks just for this and choose the categories of folks I would give to until that money was gone (I choose the native Indian families and the severely physically disabled). Although I felt completely safe during the days and evenings I spent in Nogales, it is wise to never forget you are in a third-world country and usual American safeties are reduced. Exercise normal prudence (e.g., if standing on the street, place your back to a wall, etc.). Watch how a waiter presents your change. Prices in the clubs are often fractions of a dollar (like $1.25). A typical trick is for the waiter to present your change on a tray laying out the main amount on the edge of the tray near you, but setting aside a dollar toward his side of the tray with the obvious expectation that you will leave it their untouched as his tip. But, what the waiter has done is put your loose change ($0.75 in my example) under that reserved dollar so you cannot see it. By simply not touching the reserved dollar you think you are giving a $1.00 tip but, in fact, the waiter has set you up to rip you off for your loose change. Moral - accept this trick as part of the Nogales experience or pick up all the money on the tray and then return the size of tip you really want to give.
Most useful Spanish word: mastarde (pronounced: ‘mass-tar-day’) which means “later.” If you are getting hassled to buy something or accept somebody’s offerings, just say, Mastarde, gracias”. Then go on about your business.
Don’t be the Ugly American: I had plenty of unfortunate opportunities to watch arrogant, self-centered American’s living the stereotype of the Ugly American. There ain’t nothing to prove to these Mexican neighbors about our affluence. The girls are deserving of consideration, and, in fact, by offering respect to these people I often was rewarded by receiving it back along with extra services that they usually charge gringos (my translation - Americans acting as if they are the center of the universe).
Nogales was a good experience this trip. Will report again when I next have the opportunity to visit.
You paid $12 for a table dance? has it been that long since I've been in the clubs? WOW!
| By MrBill on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:58 pm: Edit |
Three weeks ago, lapdances were $10 (I think) at LB, which is most expensive in town along with Placer's. They have been going up recently. Last I knew, they're still $7 or $8 at Rio.
| By Mw39 on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 10:20 am: Edit |
Yeah, most dances were at the $7-$8 range. I paid $12 to a favorite, even though she asked for less. We all have our weaknesses when we fall into an instant love affair!