I will update my guide and talk about more details there but thought I would show you my budget on my last trip, within reason. The variable could be $10 either way.

It really depends on the day. Usually there is one day where I dont barfine because I fell asleep from jetlag or just couldnt find anything worth fucking and was tired. Sounds crazy but on a long trip of 10-11 days, it happens.

Now for me, this is what I spent on my last trip and its only an average. I have converted the pisos to US dollars to make it easier for the retards. Remember transportation to and from AC is part of the budget. I thought about putting in the departure tax as well but decided not to.

Hotel: $55
Meals(including meals with girls): $40
Alcohol barhopping: $60
Ladies drinks: $40
Barfine(2 a day): $67
Tip for LT or two ST: $13
Massage: $5(massage every other day)
Gym: $3
Hotel incidentals: $5(girls taking stuff from fridge, toothbrush, blood on the sheets)
Laundry: $2(Usually twice a trip at $5 each trip)
Transpo(trike/jeepney): $5
Transportation to/from AC: Took Southern Cross 1,100 RT so $3 each day

TOTAL(including hotel): $298

I spend now $100 more per day in AC than I did 2 years ago. I spend $75 more per day in AC than I did on my Pattaya trip in the same time period.

AC isnt a cheap destination any more. Now remember, I go to the Perimeter bars during the day and go to happy hour. I also buy drinks from time to time if I am with a group of guys. I only buy Lady drinks for girls I know before or girls I want to fuck. I dont tip more than 500 pisos for LT and dont tip runners. I dont take a taxi to and from AC or my budget would be even higher. I usually take 10 day trips, sometimes less. If I was there on long trips like some of the retired or self employed guys who can work from their laptop then it would be a lot less as I would do sneakouts and rarely drink.

The problem that makes AC expensive is that it is a shithole and there is nothing to do. After going to the gym and a massage, the only thing to do is hunt for hot girls at the Perimeter bars and drink. When I am in the States, I rarely drink at home but when in AC, I like to have beers and party because I am on vacation. I rarely get drunk but when you party and fuck all day, it gets expensive.

On my trip, my favorite bars for girls were: Agasya, Stargate, Dollhouse, Neros, Blue Nile, and Carousel.

Favorite Bars for hanging out and drinking: Angel Witch, Honeykos, Blue Nile Exec., Byrd Cage, and Cherries.

10 Great Things About AC:

1. Everything close by and easy to navigate
2. Complete GFE and No covered BJ's
3. Barhopping with Friends
4. Owners normally attentive to customers and buys customers drinks
5. Body Bliss Massage
6. SOB parties
7. Perimeter Bar Happy Hours
8. Girls who sneakout before their shift
9. Pool at Wild Orchid and Pacific Breeze
10. Filipina sweet demeanor and constant compliments.

10 Things AC Could do Without

1. Ping Pong Balls
2. Guys who go to AC to stay at hotel with gf/chat site wife.
3. Guys who throw money from the top floors at the bigger clubs.
4. Guys who ring the bell more than once
5. Double Ladies Drinks
6. AC1 gym(can we finally get a 1rst world gym in AC?)
7. Slot machines
8. Feature dancers who dont barfine(BNE, Atlantis has a couple)
9. Cherry girls
10. Rude Koreans

Add your own as you wish.

I thought I read an earlier report from you that you preferred the new massge place across from Jollybee. Why BodyBliss? My recollection of that place is that their air conditioning was really lame (I hate sweating profusely during a massage). I recommend Footzone located at the Casino on MacArthur.

In AC, isn't "rude Koreans" kind of redundant?

I have never actually seen anyone ring a bell. Who the hell would ring it more than once?

Great things about AC

1) My favorite BJ bars in the world Nifty's/Rio/Jolly Frog. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loose when looking for a cutie. But you always get a very skillful blow job in a decidely seedy environment. I am always chuckle remembering Don Marco say in his New England accent "It smells like sweat cock in here.

2) Cottage Kitchen restaurant, a place where an expat can get some real BBQ, soul food, and new orleans food.

Things AC could without

1) A horrible trike system. Trike drivers are usually rude dickheads. Fares are way overpriced. And why do they have absolutely tiny sidecars? The customer base is largely foreigners yet these are smaller side cars than you see almost everywhere else in PI.

2) 90% of the talent dancing in bikinis and costumes on stage. If you have never been to AC you will be shocked at what you see in a bikini. Most of the girls are mid to late twenties and have at least three kids. They are typically 20 LBS overweight, have a road atlas of Manila on their bellies and two fired egg titties. I guess the mentality is you gotta have someone dancing on the stage, or else the customer won't come in? Seriously have the bars are 100% freakshow on stage.

3) I can do without hearing "Sir buy the lady a drink?" As soon as I even look at a girl.

4) AC can do without the pay before system. In AC pay the bar 1000-1350 for the girl, I guess roughly half goes to the bar and the other half the girl. But the girl can only claim her share when she shows up to work the next day. So the girl is prepaid for her work. This creates a very bad incentive for the girls to perform, and you often have to BS the girl into thinking you are more interested than just a simple romp or overnight to get them to perform. To compoud the problem, the bars do not take real responsibility for the girl's service level. They claim the barfine only is an "early work release" [sic] and to compensate them for her salary and lost bar revenue. Unless the girl runs away before Mr. Johnson makes an appearance you have no recourse for bad performance. This system really isn't such a good idea in a place where honesty is held in such low regard like the PI. It's funny in Indonesia pay before actually does work, but I guess that's because you are explicitly buyig sex and that's what they are selling.

hmm interesting assessment there blazers. I'm not sure what the prices are for victory liner nor do i know where to get victory liner once i get there. i did pay I believe P240 each way for that. It could be because I got off near SM North instead of going all the way to the airport.


you got a big budget for alcohol barhopping. Even in AC i don't drink much maybe 10 beers the whole day. Yeah i'm weak but i just don't drink much period.

on the same note of budget. My friend who recently just got his AP card asked me would $10k (his normal budget for vegas) be enough for 2 weeks. I told him that $500 a day is plenty for AC and to include me when he is thinking of going.

AP - (Advance Parole) The document that allows people who are waiting for green cards to travel outside the US and re-enter after visiting a foreign country.

Blazers; It is a surprise that you say AC is now more expensive than Pattaya on a per day basis. I wonder if the price bump is due to the Koreans playing big spender, or the Americans that only want to party in places that speak English?

RG.

Blazers,

I agree AC has become more expensive then Pattaya, due to hotel increases ($30.00 per day more at Pac Breeze than Pattaya Bay resort), food, and lack of things to do encouraging more drinking.

Your budget and mine are similar in AC, but I think we spend a little different to reach it.

On the things I could do without and with list, adding to but already agreeing with yours

1. People ringing the bell at all.

2. Trikes at all.

3. Mamasan at Champaign.

4. Ugly cousins.

5. Street beggars.

6. Filipina cell phone addiction.

7. Dumb Porineers, sending money for computer chat to girls they never met.

7. RUDE KOREANS!!!! (I know I said already agreeing with yours, but they aggravate me to the max)

Best things

1. Pool parties (particularly Pac Breeze pool)

2. Pac Breeze waitress staff

3. Filipina's willingness to be photographed.

4. Look on Cherry girl's face when I get experienced girls to do a truly outrageous act in the bar, ie pussy body shot or sample blow job.

I'm sure that I could think of more on both lists if I try harder.

Geez what's with all the Korean hating. So what if they prefer to travel in groups? It's how many Asians prefer to roll. Personally I have never had a single confrontation or problem with a Korean in AC. The keep to themselves and I am cool with that. On the other hand I see more obnoxious dickhead western antics in AC than I can count on my fingers and toes.

Most of the Koreans are similar to the two week millinaires from the west who roll through AC. They have more money than time. At least they are less guilty of puking ladydrinks,sponsoring girls, and spending money on Web chats... All of which IMHO are ruining the seen faster than some guy tipping 1000 pesos for a ST.

But go on with your predjudices and believe stupid stuff your Bar Girl Honey Ko tell you about the rules of 3, she would never lie to you. The fact if a girl prefers to go with an Asian guy it's just likely to mean they have more in common, she is more comfortable with someone closer to her culturally, and probably he treats her better.

You guys just sound like pure haters.

Didnt say the Koreans were driving the price up or ruining the scene....AMericans, Aussies ane Euros are exclusively responsible for sponsoring girls and overspending. I was simply saying they are extremely rude, and I stand by that.

Mx "The fact if a girl prefers to go with an Asian guy it's just likely to mean they have more in common, she is more comfortable with someone closer to her culturally, and probably he treats her better. "


i wouldn't say they treat her better. The locals certainly don't and we speak the language. I'm just glad i'm not darker and the girls still mistake me for a white guy or else i wouldn't enjoy AC either.

Here is the truth the girls know they can't escape the life with guy who is from the philippines or a like myself a guy who grew up in America yet still has family who are in the philippines. Now as for other asian cultures I can't say anything but pinoy culture if they find out a guy's gf was or is a bargirl lets just say it wouldn't be good and believe me word gets around quick. my cousin in manila still can't get his family to accept his gf just because she can't cook etc and is going to school to be a flight attendant talk about sad the girl isn't even a waitress in a bar much less a bargirl.



Believe me once the girls find out i'm pinoy i do notice that they don't try to bola me into being their ATM. I do notice that they try harder to get me to go barhopping and not want to stay in the hotel as much.


Now as for the Koreans being rude yes i too must agree.

I will chime in with some comments about Koreans which I know something about.

I will generalize and obviously my comments don't apply to all Koreans but in general it is an accurate assessment.

I agree Koreans can be very rude. They act like they own the place and they treat anybody that are not Korean like dirt. Especially in places like AC they really look down on Philippines people and they are there to exploit things to the max.

It stems from what I call superiority inferiority complex. Korean have in their inner core a kind of an inferiority complex. Korea for its entire history has been shadowed by Japan and it is constantly playing catch up to Japan. Koreans hate Japanese but at the same time they secretly envy Japan and strive to be like Japan. This has created an inherent inferiority complex but Koreans are proud people and they are not going to whimper away and die. To compensate for their inner inferiority complex, they overcompensate and act like they are superior. Over time the pretending to be superior has taken hold and they start believing their own lies. That is why they move in packs because they don't have the confidence to act superior alone but in groups they can feed off of each other and carry on as if they are the master race.

Don't ask me how I know this. Well some of you know how I know.


SALover

I've seen Asian porn and I know something else they probably feel inferior about. No wonder they all want the little tiny filipinas.

Wow, that's quite the budget for AC !!! $100 for just barhopping and ladies drinks per day.

I still do AC for $100 per day plus hotel.

I spend about half on meals, including girls which I bring along quite often, but only eat twice a day while on vacation.

Spend a third on barhopping, even less, but I don't drink so that saves quite a bit, when taking girls barhopping which I do quite a bit, I buy them a drink but not myself many times.

Spend a third on ladies drinks, and less, I'm very selective on buying ladies drinks, only buying for girls I'm serious about BFing, and many times, after the first LD I BF the girl, I would rather spend the money on taking her Barhopping then LD'S.

But a good number of times when I don't feel like banging the girl right then I will buy multiple LD's and just have fun with a hottie in the bar.

I BF 1 girl per day, occasionally 2 but also occasionally 0.

Many girls stay with me long time so multiple sessions for 1 BF. Which I prefer if the chemistry is perfect and the sex is good.

I like variety also, after a few days I will move on to find the next one, sometimes depending on what I find, I'll go back to girls I liked the best.

I'm not regarded at all as a cheap charlie by the girls I spend time with.

Everyone has they're own style, this is what I prefer and can still have the best of times in AC for $100 a day.

Fooledagain, you are not out much if you are only spending $20 a day on alcohol and $15 on ladies drinks. You are definately watching your budget if you are doing that. I am not a free spender by any means but AC isnt cheap any more. I dont take girls with me when I barhop, ever. I only buy lady drinks for girls I want to fuck or maybe a girl I knew before who hooks me up with girls and sneakouts.

If you honestly go back and check your budgets, I guarantee you that you spend more OR you just spend all day inside your hotel room with your LT girl watching TV and fucking. Some guys like only going out at night and always go LT with a girl. I am there on 7-10 day trips and want to fuck as many different cute girls as possible. Now I havent seen what your girls look like so cant comment whether your style gets you cute girls or fuglies. And you are definately eating with the locals if your food budget is that low.

My last trip I was in PI for 19 days, brought $2000, came home with $150, I did charge some meals to my room, maybe $100 and payed with CC. Exchange rate was under 41.

This includes 2 nights barhopping on Burgess st. in Makati, BF 1 girl.


I do eat at locals spots once in a while, eat more often at Dollhouse resturant than any other place. I eat only 2 meals per day at $10 per meal is more than enough.

I'm out quite a bit, but coz I don't drink, 1 drink per stop is good enough for me. In afternoons I play pool quite a bit, I ussaully challenge the girls to beat me and I buy them a drink, rarely can they, so for the price of 1 drink I can spend hours of fun, with girls lining up to try and win and trying to distract me rubbing they're asses and tits on me.

If in the process I find a hottie to play with I'll buy her a drink and get a few lap dances, ussaully just 1 drink sometimes 2 drinks.

I'm just very selective in buying LD , I do at times watch my budget, but when I get with a girl I really like I will do pretty much anything "in reason" she wants and don 't look at budget at all.

My mission is to find a hottie I really like with a great attitude and great sex, who'll stay with me LT, I try and spend as little as possible during the search, but once I find her I don't mind spending whatever.

I agree AC isn't the cheap place of the past, prices are up and dollar is weaker, I can see how it'd be easy to spend quite a bit.

Sounds great. How about a trip report? You have been on the site a while and zero reports...quite suprising actually. Would like to hear your perspective.

Hey guys what is 'sponsoring'? Thanks for the great trip report Blazers. Its been 8 years since I've been to AC. Things sound much the same except the talent level seems way worse.

Sponsoring is Joe Blow pulling a girl out of a bar and supporting her so she doesn't have to work any longer. She's off the market.

Talent level comes and goes, there's always a good number of barfinable girls available, maybe not the top-of-the-line super model type girls.

I've spent 3 and 4 weeks in AC in the past many times and could never do all the barfinable girls i see.

SALover-- I totally agree with your post.. As an American born person of Japanese/Hawaiian decent I notice the treatment when I'm in Seoul.. That's part of the reason why I purposely avoid my airlines flights to/from Incheon when possible.. I don't think it's a concious thought like "Oh, he's japanese so I'll treat him like shit".. I just think it becomes a learned behavior and happens almost automatically, but it manifests itself in some not-so subtly ways!