| By The_happy_monge on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 02:06 am: Edit |
I will open my trip report saying that I've waited quite a bit to see Pattaya again. My 12 days in this beautifull city( at least for me it is )was pure fun and very enjoyable. I will have some pics to share with my fellow Hombre mongers, although not as many as from previous trips. Flying from Chicago to Bangkok is a 24 hr ordeal, but once there, I'am all smiles .
I had the hotel sending a driver to pick me up, but as soon as I got out of customs, I coulnd't find this driver nowhere. So I found one my self for 1200 baht to Pattaya , tolls included but this driver never drove pass 55 miles per hour !
he spoke very good english and we talked about everything till we got to my hotel.
I had reservation made "THE IRISH ROVERS" guesthouse on Soi L.K.Metro at 650 baht per day.
(2 doors down from Lólita's & 3 doors down from HELL's CLUB )
this guesthouse has all the basic accomodations for the average monger like my self, one who's happy with basic accomodations, and doesn't complain too much or not at all !!!!
the next day I've rented my motor-bike and met up with monger buddy GURROCK1 to start our debouchery. As usual we went to Lólita's, I did pick up a cutie, who just gave me an outstanding blow-job...
I do have to say that a lot new construction is going on in Pattaya, looks like every time I go there, more malls open up.
I've said this before, at least for me PATTAYA is # 1!! especially when it comes to mongering.
hotels are very reasonable if not cheap,
food is very reasonable and good in many places
especially thai food,
the abundance of thai ladies is so much & all over that sometimes I wonder why some Hombre mongers find that hard to find something to their taste.
On this trip I met a few Hombre members (Blazers, Javaj, Baddog, Malibu )and missed meeting Redbus..hopefully in the future will cross roads again !
I did go a couple of times on SOI 6 and had fun there ( especially at T G BAR on Soi 6
I did pick up this girl for a short time session from this bar.
500 baht girl, 300 baht to the house, 200 drinks
Photos: Soi 6 TG Bar 01 02 03
As on all my trips to Pattaya, the SOI 6 Bar girls were very playfull, most were attentive to my needs
were willing to make sure that I enjoyed my stay at the their bar at any cost. Actually the mongers that I've met on this trip all were amazed at the fun that we were able to enjoy on SOI 6.
I did pull this girl out of HAPPY GO GO # 69.
one mistake I've made was that I didnt pay attention to discuss our terms in the bar.
back in the room we had two sessions, the fucking was very good, no blow job !! yes no blow job ! and she made sure that I put a condom
on my penis !!
I did take her for short time, but when she announced that she wanted 2000 baht for short time, I almost lost it !!
I think I gave her 1500 baht, no tip and sent her away.she kept insisting that the price for short time is 2000--2500 baht ???
Photos: Happy Gogo No.69 04 05 06
half way into my trip , one evening as was the routine for me and monger buddy Gurrock1 we went on Soi 7 to play pool and find me a girl for the evening. Gurrock1 already had his steady girl with him. we were playing pool and I did notice this beautifull thai girl at this bar. One thing, as is with some Thai girls, she is not photogenic, but with make up she did look hot, at least for me she did.
I ended being with her for almost 5 days, and at the end I gave her 3.500 baht !!!
She was very happy with that amount. I wish I could say the same for the GoGo bars girls !
I always make a promise never to stay more then a day with a girl on each trip, but these girls sure have a way to make me desire them( not all do ).
the sex of course with girl was with condom the first night, but after 2nd night I threw the condom out the window, and made sure that it would stay like that.
Photos: Soi 7 Jintana 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
I will have more pics, with my SOI 7 lady, in a couple of days. I'am thinking already when to go back, either in August or September.
The GoGo girls are asking for more baht, then the prevoius trips.
A couple of girls said that the going rate in Pattaya now for a GoGo girls is 3000-3500 baht long time and 2000-2500 short time.
A lot of girls are going only short time from the GoGo's. I refused to pay what they were asking and that made for a little friction between me and the 2 gogo's girls I had on this trip. one girl from Beach Club Go Go was to ugly for me to post her pic. she was a hostes and told me that even though she was ugly she wanted 2000 baht short time. I told her, Not on your life ! will I give you that much baht !
Over all on this trip I came home with a lot of good memories from Pattaya. there is a lot of Thai ladies around pataya, and if you can settle like me for an average thai lady, there is so much around town.... its endless sea of Pussy !!
Of course most want trophies so they can brag what a super-model they fucked, of course no problem with that, but as we all know some of these trophies are the worst in bed and end up costing a lot of mulas !!
As I stated in my posted tread coming home at O'hare airport my vacation memories were shattered when the fucking customs picked on me and gave me an hour and half of miserable time, while they were searching every inch of my baggage, and I do mean every inch !!
but I did manage to remain patient with the custom assholes as to not destroy the memories of my beautifull vacation in the land of smiles.
| By Zuperfly on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 07:01 am: Edit |
Amigo, I sincerely doubt the girl you spent 5 days with was very happy with the 3500 bht you left her with---especially considering you threw your condoms 'out the window' on day 2.
I hate to see mongers overpay, but it's just as shitty to underpay and take advantage of an obviously inexperienced girl in a desperate situation. If she ends up catching some STD from you, half that money AT LEAST is going to go towards medical treatment. Certainly she is responsible for her actions as well and behaved stupidly, much to your benefit.
Maybe we should start an 'ethical mongering' discus thread...
| By The_happy_monge on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 08:20 am: Edit |
zuperfly,,
how I choose to spend my money and how much I give a girl should be the least of your concerns !!
actually as a monger yourself, you should applaud me for keeping prices down !!!
what we dont need in Pattaya is more mongers
"" with money then brains ""
she was more then happy with what I gave her,and she was working on Soi 7 for past 4 months.
so, I do not think that she was that inexperienced as you would like to believe!
I do have talks as to how much I would be giving them, and most agree to come without too much hesitation !
Yes a go go girl would have cost that much in one night alone. why do you think I chose a Soi 7 bar girl to stay with me and not a walking street super-hottie ?
why spend more money, when you can have just as much fun spending less?
whats all this STD bull all about ?
it could have been the other way around !
actually most mongers do bareback and nobody humps on their back... but when t.h.m. does it, its the end of the world.
anyway thanks for your comments and observations
| By Sobe9ball on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:35 am: Edit |
Nice pics and girls THM... I as well also like to find girls who really treat me nice and G.F.E and have no problem "Wifing it" for a few days or longer.. sex gets better and better and you develop a relashionship. ALSO you cant beat the "BULK" price. In the first pics I notice a huge lock on the closet, was that your room? or the house room? Was it your own? BECAUSE me myself bring a few Bicycle cables locks with combination locks and put my room on "lock down" Closet, duffel bags and EVEN bathroom drawers... I dont give a shit, Ive had ENOUGH colognes and other little things stolen!
| By Cincoleche on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 10:00 am: Edit |
THM was able to pay a little over $100 for a girl for 5 days and he gets "scolded" for it??. That is more than she would make doing something else. I paid a smoking hot Cuban girl $100 for almost a week, and she was thrilled with it as it was more than she made at her day-job.
I get ticked off when I travel some place 1/2 way around the world and see guys throw around US prices and hear girls mention US prices. I came all that way so I wouldn't have to!
The condom issue is a futile topic of discussion.
I am more interested in hearing why you were detained in Customs? Is it really getting to the point were every single, white middle-aged American who comes back from Thailand labeled as "sexual predator"?
| By Jonesie on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 10:39 am: Edit |
Cinco, when did you pay $100 for a week? I'd bet the skin under my scrodum it wasn't in Havana lately...
I'm not really sure why Customs jams up guys coming in from ass destinations. I always tell them I was in Colombia/Costa Rica chasing ass. Besides, I'm not sure what they could do about it anyway as long as the girl is of age...
| By Blazers on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 11:17 am: Edit |
Was fun meeting you THM. I realize its tough for you to get a word in with your chatterbox buddy Gurock..lol..but it makes it a lot easier to meet guys in person and understand where they are coming from. Your Soi7 girl looks a lot hotter with makeup. Doesnt matter if your girl isnt a supermodel as long as you enjoyed your time with her. One thing great about getting a girl for several days is that they can really show you some great street food places and small restaurants away from the main areas.
One thing I had to realize and a lot of you guys have to realize is that English is THM's second language. He speaks it fluently and writes English. You people dont realize how difficult it is to WRITE in another language. It's one thing to speak fluently but writing it with all the subtle nuances in a language is extremely difficult. I believe sometimes THM just doesnt know how to exactly convey how he thinks or feels and sometimes we jump on him for it. He is also a straight shooter which many guys hate but I applaud.
Lastly, I will take a frugal monger against an overspender any day of the week. If more guys were like THM, we would have a better scene in Pattaya right now, instead of most of the beer bars getting closed down or phased out.
| By Cincoleche on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 12:40 pm: Edit |
Jonesie, your scrotum is safe. I picked up that hottie at the Malecon in Havana and it was back in the glory days of 2002.
I don't ever getting any problems coming back from South America. I suppose it is Thailand that has the worldwide reputation of an underage sex trade.
| By Smuckin on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 01:43 pm: Edit |
THM , awesome report!
Keep up the good work!
-Smuckin
| By Governorb on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 07:57 pm: Edit |
Sweet lord those are soem ugly broads.
| By Zuperfly on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:02 pm: Edit |
THM, for the record, I appreciate your enthusisatic reporting.
And, for the record, I live in Thailand, so I am not at all in favor of having too many mongers here, or anybody paying US prices. I am not on a lucrative expat salary myself, and the prices in Bangkok are high enough to keep me broke.
If your girl was really pleased with what you gave her, perhaps I should take your word for it. But I'm a cynical fucker, and I doubt it. If she went bareback with you for all that time, isn't that worth a little extra? Obviously diferent mongers will answer that question differently.
I knew that post would kick up some dust and criticism, but so be it: that was my reaction to the report. It does provide useful information, and lets those of us looking to pay the least we can get away with know we can do that in Pattaya.
Porker would be proud of you I'm sure.
| By Khun_mor on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:11 pm: Edit |
And how many photos have you posted Gov ??
Let's see your "beauties".
Nothing wrong with those girls if they are what THM desired and chose. Why criticize his picks?Does it make you feel superior?
Besides we all know that Thai girls take terrible pics, especially with the harsh fixed flash on most point and shoots.
THM
Thanks for the report and taking the time to post the pics. I know how much effort it takes. I gotta get my lazy ass back to Thailand one of these trips.
| By The_happy_monge on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:28 am: Edit |
Blazers.... same here, it was nice meeting you and having a couple of beers togheter.
Zuperfly...like I said I do appreciate your comments and observations.
yes my girl was very happy with 3.500 baht I gave her. I tell any girl in advance what I'am willing to give her,(since my budget is limitted)
and the ones that agree , know what to expect when payday comes !!
Sobe9ball.... thanks for kind words !
that room in the picture, is a short time room on SOI 6.. TG BAR !!
Khun_mor.... thanks for the comments.
maybe one day I will run into you in AC !
Cincoleche.....I'am used to get scoled for my viewpoints. keep in mind that even tough I gave my long time girls of 5 days 3.500 baht, each day she went to her apt. for a couple of hrs, watched tv, and yes we did fuck a lot times, but her sitting in a beer bar would have made her no baht at all..
I see a lot GoGo girls that dance the whole night
and no customer, since they tend to stick to the bullshit inflated prices as I've seen lately.
why the U.S.Customs detained me ? I have no fucking clue, I did answer all the questions as brief as I could, and like I said every inch of my luggage was inspected, ( all the clothes, wallet, pants, shoes, every little shit was taken out from my lugggage,
I had to explain every business card I had in my wallet ( can you guys believe that ?)
they even asked me for my own business card ,and if they can keep one for their records.
I will really make sure my camera is clean,when I enter the country in the future, after what happened this last time, I would not take any chances with these fuckers !
| By Buick on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 09:44 pm: Edit |
i don't think there is a single brain in the whole US customs. all brainless idiots.
a few years back i had a very long layover in narita. the airline gave me a room outside the airport but i just hung out at the airport instead.
when i got to LAX, i got through passport control and was waiting for my baggage. a customs guy came up to me and called me by my name. i was shocked.
they claimed i was involved in a heroin smuggling operation. a group that operated out of narita. i said, "gee, that is funny. i never left the airport so not sure how i got the supposed heroin". their response was i checked into the hotel and got it there. and i pointed out that the airline did that, not me. plus, my passport had no stamp so proof i never left the airport.
after about an hour of nonsense, i totally lost it. told the whole group of officers to fuck off. then i got handcuffed to a chair for a couple hours and said fuck off to every question that was asked over the few hour period. not kidding. just a stream of fuck you, i want an attorney. over and over.
needless to say, because i lost all control of myself that one time, i now go through secondary almost every time i re-enter the US. you must be very very nice to these brainless idiots. and it is not easy after a long overseas flight.
| By The_happy_monge on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:33 am: Edit |
Buick ! being nice to these zombies takes a LOT OF PATIENCE !!
actually I think the U.S. government is recruiting these ZOMBIES, since zombies can devour you and leave for dead in a short time !
these guys ( THE U.S.CUSTOMS ) can do that very efficiently.
I came close to loosing too, when the bitch from Customs took my wallet and pulled out about 15 business cards, and I had to explain what each card was all about ! Un-believeable !
also on a little piece of paper I had some phone numbers that I wrote down in pattaya, these were all numbers from the chicago area,, I had to explain each number and why I had it !!
most of these numbers were from family , or business clients.
talking about LOSING IT !! came close, but that sign thats says EXIT was about 75 feet from me.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE LAWYERS ON THIS BOARD !
CAN THESE RETARDS BE SUED IN U.S. COURTS ?
| By Khun_mor on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 10:01 pm: Edit |
You were never arrsted so there is no grounds for suit. INS can do pretty much whatever they want. You're not yet in the US so the constitution does not pertain yet .Lucky for you they did not get out the rubber gloves.
I would suggest a strongly worded complaint to your Democratic congressman or senator - not mentioning where you were or at least why - but detailing the ridiculous lengths they went to. Explaining phone numbers and business cards makes no sense. The letter probably will make no difference but we have to start somewhere. I hope it gets better when the Bushies are gone.
| By Twoweekslate on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 09:44 am: Edit |
what!? they can inspect the pictures in your camera! sheesh! how do i clean that one out if i want to keep them! hmm. i'll take an extra flash drive!
THM, great report and good information. and i think Jintana is cute. i really have to try Soi 7 on my next rip! you siad you'll be around in August? i'll be there on the first week. would love to meet up if you are around!
and i have to say as a small salary worker who uses most of his money to go mongering, i appreciate being careful with my money. i will definitely give what the girls deserve but only after discussing it and being fair. 100 can be a lot of money, even for those who earn dollars.
| By The_happy_monge on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 03:20 pm: Edit |
two weeks late !!! yes of course they can inspect pictures on your camera,, also your flash drive won't be immune !!
actually nothing will be immune from these bastards!!!
if you will get the inspection I got ( then be prepared to have every little shit in your baggage looked at !
hope you will be to pass , without being harrased by the secondary assholes !!
| By Khun_mor on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 05:51 pm: Edit |
Actually THM as I read your description of the absurd questions and the scattered focus of what they were looking for I was wondering if Catocony had any close contacts inside the Customs dept !
The diverse nature of the search and the bizarre questioning reveals they had no particular reason to secondary you - just looking to f**k around with you a bit. That should never be tolerated but with our present govt unfortunately has no recourse.
| By Smallasiandick on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 10:49 pm: Edit |
Happy Monger,
You have to understand one thing. If the government wants to ass fuck you, it will. No one gives a fuck about sex tourists. Society thinks we are scum. We are the hunted. I'm so paranoid about our government that I toss all my rubbers before I hit the states.
Be smart and lay low...
(Message edited by smallasiandick on May 31, 2008)
| By Bbig12 on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 12:44 am: Edit |
Sorry THM but as someone mentioned on the discussion board you made yourself a target and fell right into their trap. For future trips when your standing in front of a customs official tell them all of the places you visited with Thailand being last. So if you flew through Hong Kong on your way to Bangkok say you visited Hong Kong first. Then never ever say you visited Pattaya. Say you visited Bangkok. If they ask if you visited any ladies say that your girlfriend in the States would not approve of that. You also never ever visited any "bars". Use only one sentence answers per question with no elaboration. If your worried about photo's take out your camera's memory card and put it in your pocket. If they ask say your camera broke on your trip. If you do the suggestions mentioned above you should have no problems (unless your sweating like crazy and touching your face while having nervous ticks of course).
| By Buick on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 02:54 am: Edit |
as i recall, the last straw for me was a discussion over a corporate credit card to prove that i had a job. i didn't have one (a corporate card). i explained that in my job, i paid expenses on my personal credit card and then got reimbursed by the company. a real difficult concept.
last i checked, you don't need a job to go back to your home country. as long as you have a valid passport, that should do it.
i also remember parting with all the fuck you's for a moment when the boys suggested that i hadn't yet entered the US, was in "lawless land", and was in big trouble. i said "really, my plane just landed at LAX. i don't know where you guys think you are but i know, los angeles, california, united states of america." then they talked about crossing some border line (which i hadn't, supposedly) and i just went back to "fuck you".
by the way, they did suggest/threaten the rubber glove was on the way. but i guess someone had mercy on me.
suffice to say, i was very, very stupid and consider myself lucky. still pay for it to this day as i get secondary search 90% of the time i get back to US.
| By Thumper on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 09:23 am: Edit |
Does anyone know if you have to reveal your laptop's password when you come back thru immigration? Maybe it would be best to go to an internet cafe and email your pics to yourself.
| By The_happy_monge on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 09:29 am: Edit |
Bbig12
Sorry here too !!
I mean you have no idea what I went through with the customs.
1. ok I dont say nothing about visiting Thailand
but they see an entry stamp and exit from Thailand !!
2. after my luggage was opened in the front of them, they said "empty your pockets" and pull your inside pockets out, and put everything on this table !!!!
so lets say I had my memory card inside my pockets, that would have raised a red flag even more, as to why was in my pocket and not inside the camera. do you see what I mean ??
3.inside my luggage I had a receit from the guesthouse I stayed in Pattaya, and they did find it while going through my stuff in my luggage. so I tell them I stayed in Bangkok but they find the receit from a place in Pattaya, then what ???
also I had a lot postcards with pattaya inside my luggage,
had I lied about not being in pattaya, they would have found out after about 5 min. going through my stuff !!
perhaps they like to fuck with me since I'am American-Romanian going to L.O.S. and not Ro.
whos know the fucking reasons they picked on me,
but I sure didnt like not one second of it !!
| By The_happy_monge on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 09:38 am: Edit |
Sir Khun_mor !!!
!!
Wow ! never taught about catacony being involved ! or perhaps have someone inside ??
Hmnnnnnnn ? ![]()
| By Smallasiandick on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 02:12 pm: Edit |
Happy,
It happened to my friend twice at LAX. In fact, they asked him why he had rubbers. He was shitting bricks. Luckily for him he didn't have any fun pictures of Pattaya because they checked everything.
Like you, I like to take pictures. The smart thing to do is not take pictures.
| By Roadglide on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 02:52 pm: Edit |
While I don't know anything about the legal system other than you don't want to be dealing with it, I would think that we are talking about 3 different levels of inspection here.
(1) Would be a normal secondary bag inspection. Your "number whatever". and they send you over to the table to open your bag. I see it happen to someone on every trip.
(2) If they ask you to empty out your pockets and turn your inside pockets out. That's not a "normal" secondary inspection, and I would at the least ask them what they expect to find.
(3) While they CAN do a rectal exam, something like this would need to have approval from at least a supervisory level agent.
I have only had one negative experience with the border agents, I got tired of hearing one of them yell at myself and other travelers upon returning from Brazil, prior to getting my passport checked. After clearing emigration I asked to see a supervisor, I talked to him, and was asked to point out the loud mouth.
Like others have said, AFTER they are done with you ask for their name and ID# and make it a written complaint. If anything it lets them know that you are not a sheep people.
Of course if you are dumb enough to bring back something illegal then you deserve to get caught!
RG.
| By The_happy_monge on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
smallasiandick !! you mean to tell me
" its against the law to have condoms in your luggage ??
since when does this represent a security threat to our country ? condoms ?
next thing will be told when we can have sex and not !! and where !! and with whom !!
looks like BIG BROTHER is here already !
I should study our laws, and become really knowledgeable !! and hit this assholes back when given the chance !
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| By Bbig12 on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 09:46 pm: Edit |
Well THM you never want to lie to customs but you do want to leave out some information. So on your entry card you put down what countries you visited so never lie about this. But everything else you say can either omit info or "stretch" the truth. So if you say you visited Bangkok and they find Pattaya stuff you'd say you took a road trip down south. The point of my post was how to avoid going to secondary questioning. Once you do go into secondary it doesn't matter what you say since your already under suspicion. So if they did find your camera's memory in your pocket you'd have said, "oh so that's where I put it". It's not like you'd be in more trouble. Either way outside of them finding drugs or child porn on you they'd have to let you go eventually.
| By Smallasiandick on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:56 am: Edit |
B12,
Here is the thing. I love banging 18-22 year old Asian chicks. However, to the average white person, they look birthday challenged.
Taking pictures these days is just crazy in my opinion.
| By Phoenixguy on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 03:28 am: Edit |
>>Does anyone know if you have to reveal your laptop's password when you come back thru immigration?
No, you do not have to reveal your password. Just expect that when you don't - they will presume you have something illegal you don't want them to find, so they'll confiscate your laptop for a few months while their computer forensics guys look for anything they can hang you with.
>>Maybe it would be best to go to an internet cafe and email your pics to yourself.
Good idea, although sending a bunch of large image files could take a long time. A faster option might be to get a photo CD made and mail it home.
>>they asked him why he had rubbers
That's when I'd have probably embarassed the shit out of him, rather unquietly asking - "Dude! Don't you ever get laid when YOU go on vacation! You DO practice safe sex, don't you?!" Makes me think back to the border agent who was checking my bag one time coming back from Mexico. The bag check ended real quick after she discovered my GF's big dildo. ![]()
| By Mojoman69 on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 06:57 am: Edit |
THM, as a fellow Chicagoan, I get the Ohare hassle problem, Ive had it a few times when I get back from LOS or even the DR. When they ask what I was doing there I say screwing whores. What more can they say? Its not illegal unless the girls where underage, and frankly even if they were how could they prove it, unless you are dumb enough to bring back video or pics of things like that. I usually dont buy souvenirs so theres not a lot they can do. I agree on the prices. I just was in LOS a month ago and while I stayed off walking st except for one night, i noticed girls asking for more dough. but they will take less. Especially in slow season. I have to say though, I have never seen so many fat and ugly Bar girls as this last trip. you really have to separate the wheat from the chaff.I hit a lot of the small massage joints and found some hidden gems who were more than happy with 1000 baht tip for FS. Mojo.
| By The_happy_monge on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:11 am: Edit |
so it looks like I'am not alone in getting hassled at Chicago O'hare !!!
Mojo ?? you mean to tell me YOU really tell Customs Assholes that you went SCREWING in Thailand or any other places ??
kudos!! if you have the balls to tell them that!
| By Grownd_zero on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 06:03 pm: Edit |
Ha ha ha I remember this crazy sob named Marv that would go to Rio and he had a black medical bag he called the "the kit". In side was an assortment of neon/flavored rubbers, plastic cuffs, a rubber fist, various dildos, creams, etc. We were leaving Rio airport and he was called into a side room for inspection before getting his boarding pass by two bull dyke looking Brazilian officials. He said they were opening up everything and when they got to "the kit" they were really getting pissed. One picked up and just slammed the rubber fist down on the desk causing one of the black dildos to fall off the table. I was laughing my ass off as soon as I saw them taking him back there. He he looked back at me and fiegned a worried look then just giggled to himself.
For US customs , remember all that "land of the free", "you have rights" BS is nothing more than BS. Realize they are cop and you are little people. Answer questions honestly but curtly, no details. Remember once you are "detained" in any way ANYTHING you say can be used against you.
| By Mdwbkk on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 12:41 am: Edit |
Grownd zero, that is right on the nail ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU. In some cases anything you do. customs what a joke personal I think they need to have proof that the are doing something. My best advise brothers is to get you a few of the free web base mailbox and email you prize pictures to youself then take some bullshit pictures like the hotel room, the traffic to keep on your camera it shows proof that the camera works.
| By The_happy_monge on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 05:49 pm: Edit |
Mdwbkk
good idea about taking bullshit pics
( hotel room, buildings architecture, plain beach pics, restaurant menus, birds flying over,) GOOD IDEA !!!
| By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 08:13 pm: Edit |
happy, weren't you the one who made a smartass comment to the agent, i think it was u.
Com'on dude what do u expect ??? lesson learned, hopefully. your bad.
they haven't bothered me much up till last couple of trips they been asking quite a few questions.
I just tell them I have a GF, just have a name ready if they ask.
If they look at your pics just tell them you met many girls online in Yahoo chat rooms, the military rooms, and filipinahearts.com or what ever chat site and had a number of girls waiting for you to meet.
if they ask for names just say u don't remember her coz u didn't have good chemistry or she was a obvious gold digger so u weren't interested in her so don't remember her name, just have a few names on recall for a few pics.
the only possible problem is if u have a pic in bars in go-go outfit , then same girl in ur hotel.
then u should tell truth, other than that, never say u met the girl in a bar.
if they ask if u went to girly bars say yes with ur gf coz she likes bar hopping there to see the dance shows. that way if u have pics in bar u can have a reason 4 it.
| By Laguy on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 06:09 am: Edit |
Just to add some perspective: there is nothing against U.S. law about going to see prostitutes in foreign countries so long as they are not under the age of 18. The problem is should immigration and customs decide you are a "sex tourist" they may note that in your records and then send you to secondary for harassment on future trips. The pretext they use for this is the Bush/Christian right notion, preposterous as it is, that sex tourism in many cases means perversion. So, they feel justified in monitoring sex tourists.
As to strip searches, they cannot do these willy nilly. They need reasonable suspicion of illegal activity. However, law enforcement is pretty damn good at manufacturing "reasonable suspicion" so the protections against such searches are not as strong as they should be.
The way customs and immigration has been treating us lately pisses me off to no end. It is as though they are KGB wannabes. I just hope (although am not entirely convinced) that when Obama becomes President, and Edwards Attorney General, things calm down a bit.
| By Copperfieldkid on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
Happy,
good report, and some nice photos. Looks like you cornered the "spinners".......
Regarding the Customs or INS [I guess they call them US Customs and Border Patrol, name is always changing-lol] as Laguy states they can pretty much justify doing what they want and get away with it, leaving you to grin and bear it for the few minutes involved [seems longer].I suggest you stand there thinking of the good times you just had while waiting to clear, trying NOT to smile too much. It's hard to be angry while thinking about what you've just done in the past 24 hrs, let alone the entire trip!
CFK
| By The_happy_monge on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:35 pm: Edit |
does anyone have a clue where I can get the fucking manual, or I.N.S laws !!
I would like in the future to know what exactly these mother-fuckers can do and not !!
I really mean it !!
no other country in the world that claims to be free is doing what our CUSTOM AGENTS are doing, like asking these dumb ass questions,
a. what you do for a living ?
I would expect this question from a Vietnamese or Cuban immigration officer, not a U.S.officer
b. where did I stay and why ?
what places did I visit ? cities ?
if I was back in Romania under commnunism I would expect again these questions, but U.S.?
fooledagain1 !!! I wasnt a smart ass in answering their questions, but my reply that I'am old enough was right at the end, so by then I knew I would see secondary !! I could smell secondary was coming !
| By Snooky on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:47 pm: Edit |
I came back from Pattaya and AC last week on a flight MNL-HKG-LAX-IAD and had to pass immigration and customs at LAX.
The immigration guy was grilling me about where I went and why I was there. I said that I was visiting friends in both countries, yada-yada and when he stamped my passport he broke out the red marker and circled the Customs emblem on my customs form and wrote down some numbers.
He must have written down code the customs guy as to what to look for. I ended up going through the full inspection at customs. Before I left AC I had deleted all nude pictures after I uploaded them to picaso. They didn't look at my photos but they could have.
They didn’t give me the full court press on inspection like they did THM and my inspection was only 5 minutes. One weird thing though, when I was done and about to leave, the Customs guy came around the inspection counter and asked if I was wearing socks and had me pull my pants up to show him and then I was out of there. I have no idea why he asked. Does anyone have a clue.
| By Roadglide on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 09:46 am: Edit |
He was looking to see if you had stashed a flash drive, or something else in your sock.
| By Fcbkpr on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 08:49 am: Edit |
>>Maybe we should start an 'ethical mongering' discus thread...>>
LMAO! Thanks for the laugh.
| By Lovingmarvin on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:57 pm: Edit |
ethical mongering = pay as little as you can + get as much as you can.
hmmm... it looks like we have some UN workers amongst our CH members that want to spread social justice amongst hookers worldwide!
Regarding custom - I remember walking across the Mexican border ïn Tijuana and a custom officer asking me what I was bringing back to the US: I responded with "Ï hope nothing". No anal searches resulted.... things might have changed
As luck would have it, my condom had burst with an earlier session and after a few days a white drip developed requiring treatment. I guess I had indeed imported something.