Loso in Ho Chi Minh City - Overview & Conclusions

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By _loso_ on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:26 pm:  Edit

Timing

I was in Ho Chi Minh City:

February 23 - February 28 (6 nights)

Statistics

During my 6-day stay in Ho Chi Minh City, I had:

ST: 6
LT: 2
Girls: 8

Motorcycle Girls

Everywhere you go, you will be approached by touts/pimps. They take out their little book, make some calls and a few minutes later a selection of motorcycle girls will appear. By hanging out outside girl friendly hotels, you can cut out the middle man. You may also be approached directly by the girls.

The motorcycle girls are not freelancers. They work for a mamasan/papasan and won’t do anything without their express permission. Some girls even called their mamasan to ask whether it was OK to take pictures!

The motorcycle girls always seem to be in a hurry and seldom provide good service. None of the motorcycle girls allowed French kissing. Even though blowjobs are a Vietnamese specialty, many of the girls had to be convinced to suck my dick.

The girls will often ask to be paid in advance. Never agree to that! With prices from 300.000 – 400.000 VND ST, the motorcycle girls are an economical option. But they do expect a tip! Some of them are quite pretty, but they’re only good for a quick release...

Hai Ba Trung Bars

General

When a foreigner walks past the bar, the girls suddenly appear on the sidewalk, drawing the punters in.

Prices in the Hai Ba Trung bars are pretty uniform. My drinks were 25.000 – 30.000 VND. The girl’s drinks were always 50.000 VND. The barfine is 300.000 VND. The girl will set you back 60-100 USD LT.

When you barfine a girl, the doorman calls for a taxi. The girl gets in first. You join her later. The taxis use the meter and won’t overcharge you.

Mamasans

In one bar, a girl warned me about the danger of catching AIDS when kissing a girl. Where did she get that bullshit? In other bars, the girls were French kissing the guy as soon as he bought her a drink. Who told them to do that?

I guess the mamasan is key. If the mamasan is a total cunt, you can expect her girls to be total starfish. Bars where the mamasan encourages her girls to provide good service is where you wanna be...

35 Bar

Address
- Hai Ba Trung 35

About 10 girls were on duty, including a couple of pretty ones. A curly-haired beauty wanted a tip for a simple smile, but was quick to sit with some Korean prick...

49 Bar

Address
- Hai Ba Trung 49

The 49 Bar had the best selection at the time of my visit. The girl I talked to (Phuong) was a total babe, but had starfish written all over her...

51 Bar

Address
- Hai Ba Trung 51

The 51 bar had a good selection, without any stunners. With a group of Japanese in the house, the girls showed no interest in this white guy...

91 Bar

Address
- Hai Ba Trung 91

The 91 Bar had a large selection, with a few beauties. They were more interested in playing cards...

Cafe 29 (U2 Bar)

Address
- Dong Khoi 29

Formerly known as U2 Bar, Cafe 29’s main claim to fame is that the girls will give you a BBBJCIM for 300.000 VND. But the upstairs rooms better be dark, as the girls aren’t exactly beautiful.

Cafe 49

Address
- Dong Khoi 49

This small bar only had a handful of girls, none of which were attractive.

Thien Loc (Corner Bar)

Location
- Corner of Mac Thi Buoi and Hai Ba Trung

As soon as a customer buys a girl a drink, she’ll stick her tongue down his throat. I bet the mamasan makes a helluva lot more money than the cunts from the other bars. With a great selection, Thien Loc aka the Corner Bar is [u]the[/u] place to go in Ho Chi Minh City!

Thuy was both the top looker and the top performer in Ho Chi Minh City. An absolute gem!

Cali

Location
- Mac Thi Buoi

Thien Loc’s sister bar has a smaller selection, but the same business model. Definitely worth a visit!

Lieu was inexperienced, but sweet as honey and horny as hell. Another real winner!

NY Saigon

Location
- Dong Du

No top beauties, but a decent enough selection. The mamasan was able to find me 1 girl who would allow French kissing. The kind of girl you wouldn’t fuck for free!

Pham Ngu Lao Bars

Allez Boo

Closed!

Go2 Bar

Address
- De Tham 187
- Corner of De Tham & Bui Vien

This extremely popular corner bar features a few freelancers at night. Backpackers hit on the girls, and are often surprised they carry a price tag. Maybe those naive backpacker types think the girls like handsome young foreigners. Go to Thailand, dudes! Vietnamese girls only like money!

BTW, be sure to check your bill and make sure you get your change. The waiters are crooks!

Guns ‘n Roses

Location
- Pham Ngu Lao
- Just around the corner from De Tham

Guns ‘n Roses is supposed to be a late night place to meet freelancers, but it was deserted every time I walked past. Guess I was never late enough...

Li Li Bar

Location
- Bui Vien

Li Li is a Hai Ba Trung-style hostess bar. The selection was a notch below the better Hai Ba Trung bars, but the good news is that My started French kissing me when I bought her a drink...

Rivev’s

Location
- Bui Vien

This small hostess bar only had 4 girls when I peeked inside. None of them were pretty.

Other Bars

Some of the other bars on De Tham St occasionally offer freelancers. I was approached by a few girls, but none of them tickled my fancy.

Discos

Apocalypse Now

Address
- Thi Sach 2B-2C

Cover charge
- 100.000 VND
- Waved when I walked in after midnight.

Apocalypse Now is a Ho Chi Minh City institution and still draws huge crowds. Plenty of working girls, but demand is still way higher than supply. Many of the girls are over the hill and the overall quality is a few notches lower than at the nearby Hai Ba Trung bars. With similar prices, the bars are the better option...

BTW, if you fancy some white meat, there are plenty of unattached Western girls.

Gossip

Address
- Mercure Hotel
- Tran Hung Dao 79

Cover charge
- 120.000 VND
- Includes 1 drink.

On a Saturday night, I spotted some real supermodels in Gossip. They were part of the elite...

There was one table with taxi girls on the ground floor. Their pimp approached me on the dance floor. Plenty of working girls were hugging the railing on the 2nd floor. Some of them were real stunners. But the beautiful ones didn’t wanna get with me. They only fuck little pricks! The girls who were willing to go with a white guy weren’t worth bothering with.

For light-skinned Asians, I guess Gossip is the place to go. White guys are likely to leave alone...

Volcano

Address
- Cong Quynh 148
- Just around the corner from Bui Vien

Cover charge
- None

Being close to the backpacker area, the working girls mainly target white guys. If only they were more beautiful...

Final Words

Walking around Ho Chi Minh City, you’ll spot tons of hot babes. Vietnamese girls are among the prettiest girls in Asia. Sadly, things haven’t changed much over the last decade – high prices and lousy service still prevail. I blame the mamasans...

Compared to neighboring Cambodia, the quality is better, prices are way higher and the service is much worse. Since the demise of K-11, the number of Vietnamese girls in Phnom Penh is dwindling. More and more of the Vietnamese mamasans are targeting the free-spending Chinese punters. For Vietnamese-lovers in Cambodia, things are not looking good...

The Vietnam forums are full of stories and warnings about thieving Vietnamese girls. I heard plenty of tales of fellow travelers getting robbed. A prick on a motorcycle snatched my phone. Vietnam. A nation of thieves!

Loso

By Buick on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 08:57 pm:  Edit

i thought bar 49 on hai ba trung had the best talent also. and that was based on visits in sept 07 and jan 08. didn't go there in mar 08. the main problem for me was bar 49 didn't open until 7pm. there isn't much to do during the day so i always ended up at thien loc or cali since they open by 2pm (sometimes even earlier).

very organized, well written report. and you did a great job venturing to many, many bars/clubs.

did you write a report on phnom penh ? i looked but don't see one. i'm headed there in a month, could use some insight if you have time to share.

did you go to pho 24 ? i don't think i saw that restaurant mentioned in your report. i ate there everyday, great food.

for future visitors who want to avoid the pimps, lady boys, rip offs, etc.. consider staying in the dong khoi area, not the backpacker section. i've always stayed in the dong khoi area and have never been approached by anyone off the street. i have a feeling the police don't allow that sort to operate in the dong khoi corridor (which i consider the "box" bounded by nguyen hue, le loi, hai ba trung, and the river.

By _loso_ on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 04:14 pm:  Edit

Buick,

I have reported about PP in the past, but not on this site. I'm new here!

Considering that the best action is in the HBT area, it would indeed make sense to stay there. Any recommendations for GF hotels?

Pho 24? Is that a noodles place? Personally, I prefer a steak with port sauce. Even if I stayed around HBT, I'd probably head to De Tham for food.

Loso

By Buick on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:28 pm:  Edit

the gf hotel thing is a bit of a crap shoot. i stay at the linh hotel on mac thi buoi, cali a few doors to the left and thien loc is a few doors to the right. i've stayed there three times. can always bring girls during the daytime, usually up until 10pm. i've also taken girls overnight there but usually don't get to room until after midnight. i think the night time folks are not as strict as the day time. on my first stay, could do anything as they had just opened so very easy on rules. so can change.

for me, the 10pm cut off is fine. the lieu girl for example, i took her to the room from about 6 to 9pm. then, she met me before work the next day from 11am-2pm. paid 1,000,000vnd for the night and then 700,000vnd for the morning (didn't pay bar). so call that l/t but no sleep over at 1,700,000vnd (roughly $100, current exchange is 16000/1). since you know the girl, you can imagine what a 3 hr session is like. fully packed.

pho 24 is the noodle place but they put good quality beef strips in there also. pho chin is the one i like. if you like steak, underground on dong khoi is excellent. i had steak there (as did lieu !!).


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