By Godfather on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
Note: Those of you that read my post know that I type very fast and post in an almost ‘journal like’ entry. If you don’t like reading the fluff just scroll down about 10 paragraphs.
I have been “dating” this Mexican girl that I met from Amigos.com. She actually emailed me 4 times or so but I never responded because she didn’t have a picture on the site. I should note that I know a ton of guys that are members and most have not had luck on it. I signed up in the summer. I think I paid like $35 US for a 3-month membership. Best investment I ever made. I mostly did it to improve my Spanish chatting and emailing with chicas from Mexico, and Central and South America.
I really didn’t know why but I was getting a ton of unsolicited emails from girls all over Mexico, Central and South America. It turns out that Amigos.com has a section on their main page where they feature like 5 members. There is a picture of them. They used my picture a few times. I got a ton of emails from that I think. Also, I never renewed my membership and they continue to allow me access. I’m not sure if they did that because they used my picture???
Anyway, I met this girl three months ago in Mexico City while she was there on business. We started “dating”. I visited her a few times and even met her family. Great girl that is very very pretty. (Some of my good friends on this site have seen pictures of her and can attest to the fact she is beautiful). Anyway, I knew before going to visit her this trip I had to break up with her. She is very much in love and wants a serious relationship. She WAS a virgin when I met her so needless to say thinks our relationship is even more special.
Before the trip she asked me when in January I was able to return. I told her that I didn’t know and maybe I couldn’t return in January. She got all mad and asked why. I explained to her that I’m not wealthy. Each of these trips cost in excess of $1200 US when you factor in the airfare, hotels, rental car, gas, etc. This was my 4th trip in 3 months so it adds up. She told me that if I could afford a 16 day trip to Buenos Aires and Rio for Christmas and NYE then I could afford to visit her again… Oopsss.
So I arrive and it’s her birthday. She has a HUGE party with ALL her friends. It was cool. I also bought her and all her family Christmas presents since I would not be around for the holidays (In BA and Rio). The following night she tells me we have THREE events to go to. Yikes. One of them is a wedding!!! I tell her I don’t want to go to the wedding but I’d hook up with her at the reception. She ended up skipping the wedding too but we all (her family) and I went to the reception. Here is where things get dicey.
I had originally planned on breaking up when I got back over the phone. (Yes, I know..not cool). At the reception she starts saying things like this is how she wants OUR wedding, etc. etc. etc. Yikes! I’m an honest guy so I tell her I’m not in ANY hurry to get married again. In fact, I may never get married. She is pissed! I tell her I’m happy with my life and don’t worry to much about the future and live each day like it’s my last. She angrily tells me that maybe she needs a new boyfriend. I shock her when I totally agree with her. In fact, I told her that we needed to have a talk. We left and I took her to her house where we started a long conversation. I broke up and told her we were looking for two different things. She just cried and cried and cried. I felt terrible. I wouldn’t wish this feeling on my worst enemy.
I won’t bore you with any other details but felt it was important to describe my mood heading back to the USA and Nogales. I left her city in Mexico at noon the following day instead of my normal time of 5 PM or so. She lives about 4 hours from Tucson. I checked out of my hotel and was checking my email. I had an email from her. I jumped on MSN Messenger to see if UWPhoto or any of my other buddies from CH were online. Nope. But my now ex-novia was online! She immediately IM’ed me and asked where I was. I told her I was leaving town in like 5 minutes. She pleaded to just meet and talk one last time. I told her it would be better if I didn’t. It was tough saying no and I felt crappy.
I drove back to the USA. I was going to stop in Nogales for some action but I felt shitty and bad for breaking up and hurting her feelings. Any dude would jump at a chance to date a girl like this. Smart (graduate degree), pretty (even with no make up..and with make up looks a little like Daisy Fuentes), funny. The whole package. So I tell myself I’m gonna hit a Casino instead. I’m in the mood for some Blackjack. Sometimes I crave playing BJ. I was determined to get some “BJ”.
I pass Nogales and of course as always it takes FOREVER going through the border. Traffic in Nogales is killer. A stretch of less than 5 miles takes almost 45 minutes to go through. I hate driving through that town! I pass the border and think about stopping. Especially after seeing the Rio’s sign (a strip club). I drive towards Tucson and hit the first Casino. I’m determined to win big at BJ. No dice. I get there and there is NO BJ tables!!!! I ask a lady if there are any more casinos. She tells me near Tucson there is. I head that way anyway to check into my hotel. I stop at Casino #2 (Casino del Sol). NO BJ Tables!!! I go to my hotel and pass a sign for another Casino near the airport. I drive by and ask a worker in the parking lot. NO BJ tables!!!! Crap!! Now I’m bummed. I reason that I’m gonna get a “BJ” if I can’t play BJ.
I check into my hotel and shower and change. I’m headed to Nogales!!! So I head to the border. It’s probably an hour ride but only takes me 40 minutes usually. I drive about 95 MPH. I hate driving slow. From the airport take Highway 19 South towards Nogales. It’s about 60 miles. It’s funny because all the signs that close to the border are in Kilometers. All the highway placards are in KM’s. Once you get to the border you’ll see a McDonalds on your left and a parking lot on the right. You can park in that parking lot. $4 US. They will give you a receipt. I arrived about 6 PM. Parked then walked into Mexico. I saw Rio’s first so I went there. It was a $3 US cover and it included the first drink. I was surprised because no one was hassling me on the street for “girls”. In fact, the first time I walked by the guy didn’t even stop me. I had to turn around when I realized I passed it.
I get upstairs and I’m disappointed by the talent. Most of the girls are too big for me and too old for me. Immediately an employee that spoke English asked me my type. I told him none of the girls here. He just laughed. Nice guy. I forget his name. There are NO Americans anywhere. Just locals drinking beer and watching the action. I only see one girl with a hot body but her face looks a little jacked up. MrBill who is a Nogales regular emailed me and told me to check out two girls. Here is what he wrote:
1) Esthar or Estrella at Placer's. Motherfucking knockout!! Top five all time Nogie lookers, and I should know... Also very sweet. About the nicest all around natural bodies you'll find. Unless you don't like perfect, natural B/C-cups.
2) Morelia at Rio's (open daytime, too). Tightest body I've ever seen - anywhere or any time, no shit... About 5' tall, blonde, 24 y/o, TIGHT hardbody ass, all over TIGHT, toned body w/o being too muscular. 19" waist and about 5% body fat, no shit. Oh, unless you don't like perfect (no, I mean perfect) natural, beautiful A/B-cups.
Have fun, dude.
MrBill
I made the notes and wrote it on a piece of paper. Well the girl with the hot body at Rio’s jumps on my lap. Her body is indeed hot. Her face is ok but it looks like she had bad acne or something when she was younger and had some scarring. Her body was tight though. When I asked her name she said, “Morelia”. Wait a second I thought to myself. That is the girl that MrBill told me about! I told her my friend recommended her. She didn’t believe me. Then I whip out the paper with her name on it that simply said, “Morelia – Rio’s *****”. She laughed so hard and was flattered! She kissed me right there on the spot. It was funny. So I get a private dance from her. $20 US for 2 songs.
We go back in the booth and it is TINY. Holy crap. Two chairs facing eachother and a door. I didn’t like this room. Too small and it smelled bad in it. She starts dancing. She takes off my shirt and unbuttons my jeans. She asks if I want anything else. I inquire if the BJ is covered or uncovered. She tells me covered. Damn. I tell her that I doubt I could finish in 2 songs with covered as I hate covered BJ’s. I ask the price and she quotes $30 US for a BJ. I do it. She is talented but my lack of interest in her face, the bad smell of the room, along with the uncomfortable chair and the hurried pace was not good. I didn’t finish and she wanted to do more time. I just told her I was fine. Her body was tight but I’m a big sucker for a pretty face and her face wasn’t all that great. Also, she was not clean shaved like I like. The other funny thing is that she dyes her hair blonde but she also dyes her pubic hair blonde!!! It was funny. It looks strange because it looked almost green because of a bad dye job.
The other girls sucked there so I move on to the next club. So far I am severely so NOT impressed with Nogales. Even TJ is a heaven compared to this place. I know it was Sunday but just didn’t like the set up of the rooms. I need a bed.
I encounter a dude on the street and asked him where Lord Black’s was. He takes me there. He spoke perfect English and told me he lived in California for 6 years. Told me he got deported. I asked how he got caught and he told me he got caught selling drugs and served 2 years in San Quinton. Yikes. Nice guy though. (Hang on..UWPhoto is calling my cellphone)..
Ok. Anyway, I get to Lord Black’s. Pay a $3 US cover that includes drink. Man..it’s dead! Girls that are there suck. I tell myself I’ll have one drink then leave. This American dude comes over to my table. It’s his first time in Nogi too. He spoke ZERO Spanish so was feeling a bit out of place he said. He was in Tucson on business and decided to drive down. He was bummed about Nogi too. We left and tried some other clubs.
We went next door to Placer’s. This had more action. Some of the girls were pretty. Still, more were bigger girls. Not fat but just bigger than I prefer. We saw a few hotties though. I can’t remember their names but my American friend got a dance downstairs with some girl that had a hot face. It was her first night. He didn’t want to pay the $23 US here for a private dance upstairs so he opted to pay the $9 US for downstairs. Meanwhile I made friends with 3 Mexican’s at the table next to mine. They were cracking up and surprised I spoke Spanish. They spoke ZERO English. My Spanish isn’t that great but I can understand a lot and communicate what I want to say now. I bought them a round of drinks because I noticed there weren’t drinking anymore beer. (I think they ran out of money). They kept pointing out girls but I kept telling them they were too fat.
Finally I see a hottie with a good body and petite. I forget her name but she was 18 years old. The staff at Placer’s was very nice. The manager was very nice and polite. I paid him the $23 + a $1 tip for the ticket. I asked ahead of time and the girl told me 15 minutes for me. The guys were telling me that is longer than normal and that she must like me. We get upstairs and this girl is HOT. She strips and starts sucking on my chest. I start sucking on her nipples and she is going crazy. We start deep French kissing and go non-stop. She was a great kisser. She takes off her top and bottom and I start playing with her. In Spanish I ask her “que quieres” (what do you want). She kept saying….”mas mas”. She started giving me a handjob and never brought up other services or tried selling me on things. I ask her how much for a blowjob and she starts throwing out prices I know is more than they normally charge. I think she thought I had tons of money since she saw me buying those Mexican dudes drinks. She wanted $50 US for a blow job and $80 US for sex. But there was no way I could have sex in that small uncomfortable little room. I settled for my 15 minutes of making out, sucking on her perfect chest and playing with her. We got downstairs and I regretted not doing it all with her. She was a hottie. We kept blowing kisses at one another downstairs.
The American dude wanted to leave. I think he was frustrated because he couldn’t understand anything. Even basic things like “como estas” (how are you). One girl was telling him how much she liked him and that she thought he was cute and that she might even dance downstairs for free but he just smiled and didn’t know what she was saying…ha, ha.
We tried going to many different places but many were closed because it was Sunday. The Mexican dudes asked if they could join us. I told them sure. We went to a few places and they all sucked. We decided to go back to Rio’s (the first place I was at). They remembered my name and welcomed me back. They didn’t charge me or my American friend a cover this time but I think they made the Mexicans pay.
There were a few cuties. Morelia was still there. The American dude got a few dances but he didn’t get anything besides dances. I told him about this site and told him to join up. He said he would. Everywhere I go I tell people about this site so hopefully they are joining up.
I walked across the border with my new American amigo and we said our good byes. I drove back to Tucson.
My impressions of Nogales is that it is disappointing compared to other places. I try not to compare it to other places would I will compare it to TJ which is another border town. TJ has a ton of girls and beds!!! The rooms are decent. Nogales prices seem more expensive than TJ. And in fact several girls told me they worked in TJ but came here for more money. Morelia said she makes much more in Nogi. I guess if I lived in Tucson I might hop over but no way in hell this place is worth visiting unless you are there for business. I still had fun but then again..i always do.
By MrBill on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 04:54 pm: Edit |
Hey Godfather. Nogie does suck compared to TJ, but it can be fun. The prices are high and the "closets" you have to get busy in suck. You can have some fun in your hotel room, but it can be a major pain in the ass.
I don't imagine Sunday is the best time to be there, either. Thurs-Sat should be better. Also, you have to be there after 9 or 10 PM to see all the hotties. What time were you in Placer's?
Oh well. Now you can cross Nogie off your list..
By Godfather on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:07 pm: Edit |
Ha, ha. MrBill. Yeah, definitely sucks compared to TJ or anywhere else for that matter. I'm sure it's better during the week but still. In those "closets" I can't see myself doing much. Maybe I'm getting old but last time I made out with a girl in a closet might have been grade school.
I was there around 10:30 PM. I left Nogales around 11 PM. Some of the clubs closed early on Sunday. Yep. It's crossed off my list but again...I made the most of it. Personally I'd rather pay an American super hottie playboy type escort $300 US for GFE sex in my room.
Thanks again for the tips though.
By Crafter on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:11 pm: Edit |
..perhaps you should have have hung a righty and heading east to a land called texas for that gfe with playboy type gal you mentioned ;)
By Godfather on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 07:46 pm: Edit |
Crafter. Ha, ha. I'll never see a US escort again. I was merely pointing out that sometimes you get what you pay for. I'd do TJ again in a heart beat but probably wouldn't hit Nogales again.
By Bull_Winkle on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:18 pm: Edit |
That was fun to read. I should add that Amigos.com PAID me to use MY picture at their site. And now I have to fight off Penelope Cruz clones who want to teach me Spanish with a stick. But I always break up with them so that I can continue enjoying putas in the Zona Norte.
Nogales sounds like it does not hold a candle to TJ, but even so there are some diamonds in the rough. If I lived in Tucson or Phoenix, I think I'd prefer to fly to San Diego, and fritter away pocket change in nearby Tijuana. Compared to a Nogales excursion, I imagine that the prices would even out after perhaps the third girl.
By Slick1 on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:26 pm: Edit |
Mr M said that i have to hit Nogie at least once to experience it.
Since we have alot of the same taste in women, i think i will heed your warning, as you know his taste.
What do you think i should do about my invite to Mexico City over X-mas? You know who with
By Moondog on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 09:56 pm: Edit |
Godfather,
You did the right thing, and got out of there. You are not ready to get married, and there is no sense in letting a woman tell you what to do with your life. In the meantime,
Enjoy the life,
Moondog
By Happyboy on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 10:53 pm: Edit |
pretty accurate report godfather, but you did pick the wrong night and the wrong time of year to visit nogi.. many of the A team has gone home for the holidays, and sundays is the slowest night of the week..you probably would have had more fun on fri and sat night...
By Ezy on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 03:20 am: Edit |
hmmm....I was in Phoenix for 4 days recently and thought often about driving down to Nogi...after reading Godfathers report I am glad I didn't bother.
I, too, am a member of amigos.com...I had to pay them double the regular membership fee before they would let me join, probably so they could subsidize the memberships of studmuffins like Godfather and Bull Winkle.....I have gotten tons of responses though....there was the cutie who sent me pictures of her grown grandchildren...she was pretty hot if you like wrinkles and gray hair. I almost went out with the 300pund lesbian who wanted to try a threesome with me and her amiga especial, but backed away when she sent me a picture of her amiga who does not shave her armpits or her legs.....sigh, some of us have others don't....
All humor aside, I have seen pix of Godfather's ex novia....She could become a model! Beautiful girl....
By Godfather on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 05:03 am: Edit |
Ha, ha. You guys crack me up. I love waking up in the morning with a good laugh.
Slick1, I say go for it. Head down to Mexico City. Interesting city. As you know I went there two weekends in a row. Just bring your wallet if you expect to stay in a 5 star hotel. Most went for about $200 US a night. Have fun. You only live once. (I should note I was surprised driving down to Mexico when Slick1 called me on my cellphone to tell me about his Venezuela adventures). I hope to hook up with you again soon.
Moondog, Thanks for those nice words. She sent me a few emails yesterday and it will take a while to stop feeling bad. I wouldn't feel so bad if she wasn't a terrific girl.
Ezy, you chistoso! Ha. I hope you're doing well amigo. Haven't seen you online in a while. Hope you hook up with you soon. I head to BA in 2 more days...I can't wait!
By Crafter on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 06:32 am: Edit |
godfather:
you did the right thing by breaking up with your girl in mexico and not continuing to lead her on - even the hardened of us horndogs must maintain some essence of a "code" of ethics - as twisted as we all are ;). it must have been hard (and I am not inferring to a waist level appendage) to break up but leave it behind you and move on.
ok, godfather, given that we have sampled the same turf, let me judge the looks of your ex novia en mexico, por favor dame una pictura de la chica, usted tiene me 'email address'.
and another thing, all sympathy i had for you is completely diminished given that I just read that you are heading back to BA late this week.
By Godfather on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 08:07 am: Edit |
Ha, ha. Crafter. Sorry. I'm not sending ANY pictures of my ex novia. Ezy and UWPhoto and a few guys I personally know have seen her but that's probably it.
I agree about the code of ethics with normal chicas. We can play games with the working girls just like they do with us but the normal chicas are a different breed. It is still very difficult especially since she has emailed me several times. Her last email apologized for "telling me how she really felt about me". She said if she didn't tell me her true feelings we'd still be together.
I don't know how I have been so lucky with relationships. I've never been broken up with in my life. I think I always end things before I get a little too emotionally attached. I'm NOT the marrying type. I don't care if I was married to a Sports Illustrated swimsuit calendar girl, that was also a brain surgeon and was wealthy. I'd still have the urge to sleep with other beautiful women. Does that make me a dawg? Or just a male?
Yes, Crafter. Have no sympathy for me. In 3 days I'll be in Buenos Aires in the arms of some hottie. Hopefully she can makes things a little easier.....
By Crafter on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 08:19 am: Edit |
damn right no symapthy - and you are headed to rio after ba - imagine my foot with steel tipped constructions boots kicking your ass - don't you have any feelings for us guys yet to make those trips!
i appreciate your not wanting to send out pix of your novia - no problema.
your desire to not get married even to a pboy bunny who is wealthy and your desire to sleep with other women is truly not your fault at all....i joke around with other guys and even women that a man's desire to sleep with other women cannot be blaimed on the man - we are biological creatures of mother nature whose actions are guided by biochemical, hormonal, and other biological processes that are truly out of our control. In order to assure our survival as a species, a male's biochemical process is dictated by a strong desire to breed as without this desire, we would go the way of the dinosaurs - yeah, I am rationalizing and go to your female friends and explain this to them...;)
By MrBill on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:47 am: Edit |
Getting back on topic... ;) I would not suggest anyone going (very far) out of their way to visit Nogales. But if you're in the Tucson/Phoenix area, it is worth a visit. You can do it on the cheap and just get $7-10 lapdances from very hot and nasty girls all night. But, if you live around here and have the time to put in the effort... I have had many hotel dates with some very pretty girls for $100/hr. Some TLNs for not much more than that. One of these chicas would be right at home in any Rio terma, looks AND performance wise. So, yeah, everyone stay away. More for me ;)
By Crafter on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:20 pm: Edit |
sorry to go astray..
By Godfather on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:49 pm: Edit |
MrBill is correct. IF you're gonna be in Tucson anyway then it is worth a quick drive down if you got nothing planned. There is NOTHING in Tucson it seemed like. If you're into strip clubs then Nogales is a much better bargain compared to US strip clubs. I'm sure other nights are better but as I mentioned.....I'm just too old to do the sex in the closet thingy. Also, I don't know about you but I doubt I can pop within 2 songs.
I also forgot to mention that I had a few guys on the street invite me to meet their "girls" who were available to have sex in hotel rooms. I didn't even bother with this.
I love Mexico though. This was just another adventure. I don't regret it and if I was in Tucson on biz I'd probably make the short drive again for shits and giggles but MrBill is on target when he says not to go too far out of your way.
Good luck all.
By Milkebomb on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
Your better off jacking off than going to Nogales and saving a few hundred bucks.
I feal bad for Justdan and Mrbill 2 great guys that are stuck going to one of the highest priced border towns in the USA.
If I was there i would straighten shit out right away. Your better off finding a mistress and giving her a few hundred fucks a month to do her twice a week or something.
These girls are making a killing out here. Maybe i can chop off the big boy and make sum money down there. Roberto will be my furst customer and Mr Bill would get sloppy seconds
Your right on target Godfather
Milky
By Ezy on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 03:24 pm: Edit |
Exacto! That's what I did while in Phoenix...and I set aside the 200dollars I would have spent in Nogi to use on puta'ing when I go back to BA in Feb...ps, I left a sizeable propina for my left hand...quality service
By Sakebomb on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 03:31 am: Edit |
Godfather,
I'm still puzzling from reading your post. I thought you are a classy guy. What you did to that girl was absolutely wrong man!!! You're a grown man and I thought you would realize the different between screwing whores and taking someone's virginity and dumped her in three months.
No matter how savy or suave you are, you were a bad American and you gave other guys who are seriously looking for relationships with these foreigners a lot less chances. Next time, try some of these rules from my book (non-working girls only):
1. If you aren't being sincere with a girl, don't lead them on and DON'T take her most precious thing. That shit lives within them forever man.
2. Don't meet their families if you don't have a clear direction in your relationship.
3. When it gets stale, call it over in persons and at the right time and the right place.
I know you feel terrible so in your defense, I hope she wasn't what you thought she was. If she really gave in only after meeting a guy within four times, may be she deserved it. Shit, that still doesn't sound right to me.
Man, we are friend and I have respect for you. I'm really disappointing in you. This wasn't what I needed to know about my friend a week before Xmas. Pinchee mierda!!!
To stay on topic, Nogales was a cool place to kick it. The way to play Nogi is to get a local hotel and take them back for TLN. I was never there on Sunday but there were some low-milage knockouts when we were there.
(A true monger should leave his dicksteps in every places where sex is alive and available.)
Sakebomb
By Godfather on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 05:07 am: Edit |
Sakebomb,
I would like to think I'm a classy guy. I can see where you'd get your impressions. I probably wasn't smart to pursue a relationship with a normal chica but to my defense, I never in any way misled her or was dishonest with her. Yeah true I might have left some things out but I told her of all my trips to BA and my upcoming trip to Rio. This girl isn't dumb. She had an idea about why I was going there although she just thought I had a "novia" there.
Yes, it was especially difficult because I was her first but I never pressured her in any way to have sex. She is the one that invited me to Mexico City. I always told her I wasn't ready to get too serious after my recent divorce. I think she just fell in love pretty fast.
Generally I would agree with you but I consider this not too different than dating a normal girl here. Yeah, the girls of S. America are fun but I will date in my home town too. It would be different if this was some peasant farm girl. This was a sophisticated girl that came from an established family that was successful. She spoke English, holds a graduate degree. She pretty much knows the story. I really like her alot. In fact, it was difficult breaking up.
I KNOW many guys would have just strung her along and I could have done that. If I was looking for a serious relationship it would be with her. As you know I'm not. I consider you a friend and I appreciate your candor in your post. I always like hearing people's honest opinion.
Happy Holidays.
By Bull_Winkle on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:10 am: Edit |
When I read the post, I thought that part was a joke. I think that the sort of relationship that Godfather describes happens all the time. And it sound like you did not lead her on, so in many ways it is on her. But women are pretty much hard-wired this way, so it is going to blow up no matter what gets said before the sex, especially if it involves cherry popping. Knowing that this stuff will inevitably happen is the essence of being classy. Another part involves moving cautiously and with restraint in the beginning. At least that is my take. I like working girls because I generally do not have to be overly concerned with these issues. Also, sometime girls are are more concerned about being abandoned than whether you are having other affairs.