Went to Frutos del Mar for dinner.

Another pure class joint; although you were paying for the tuxedoed waitstaff.

Also worth a repeat; preferably with a date you like!

Had leek soup, mussels with fine herbs & wh. wine, and langoustinos diablo. The latter dish was sensational especially the very spicy cream sauce that accompanied it; incl. brocolli & mini-taters. That and a half of a Spanish white set me back all told, 141,750.

They called me a cab and I roared off to "Fase II"

I arrived at about 11:15 and it was much less crowded than last time.

This allowed for a better look-see and I liked what I saw.

They were some true stunners and I would have loved to take them all.

But, Sara, a tall, naturally busty, hottie and I made eye contact, and the rest is history.

Necking, blow-job, pussy eating were all first-rate.

But fucking this doll was a pleasure-and-a-half. Cowgirl only. Her long legs allowed us to attain that perfect format whereby we are hardly touching each over, but for cock-to-pussy. She kept asking me if I liked it! What the fuck was I gonna say? "No!" Or, "You are the best" I said neither for awhile. Then "mas rapido" followed by "mas duro" followed by "que tienes mojado lo" and finishing with "que bien encajamos"!

At that point she cranked it up a gear and I followed, from below. The build-up came too soon for my liking; but I literally unleashed 3 weeks worth of paradise within her "miko".

After she showered, she wanted (just like another) to smoke a joint on the balcony. I relented. Did her make-up, I called her a cab, forked over the 300K and the 20 year old bomba split by 2:30 or so.

Photos: Sara - Face Dos 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419

and my favourite shot!

Photo: Sara - Face Dos 420

Crashed at 4:15

Dr. J.

Wow, spending $70 to eat a meal by yourself in a third world country then paying around $140 for ST with a girl that looks like a fat tranny....soiunds like a blast.

What is "necking" by the way?

I love how shes spending so much time to so meticulously put of her make-up to go back to fase II in the hopes to snag the NEXT dumb ass victim gringo.. TECHNICALLY it COULD be a 600k+ night for her and you bet her fucking ass that shes letting the other bitches know it (in your face). lol

oh p.s. the $140 you spent for st with this puta was for the deed, how much is the EXIT fee these days at FaseII and then what did the booze set you back?

(Message edited by sobe9ball on February 17, 2009)

Dr. J.....next trip you should bring Anthony Bourdain's film crew with you and put it on the travel channel.

LOL, You guys are fuckin' harsh. It's true, the good doctor has a little different taste than some of us. I was going to add that the photo-stamp is unnecessary, as not many people will plagiarize these pics, but as you guys have peppered the poor guy already, I don't want to give him a complex...

I dont mind so much that he overpays but he is overpaying for low grade chicas with two exceptions. In other words, there is no quality control. If he were to bang some of the extreme beauties that Cubanut or Jonesie are banging then I wouldnt even flinch of him overpaying as he likely received good value.

Fat, skinny, old, young...still overpay

Covered BJ? Just pay them extra

Doesnt want photos? Just pay them extra

Has to be the only guy that thinks a $75 meal for ONE PERSON in a third world country is reasonable.

(Message edited by blazers on February 17, 2009)

There are some very rich people in this city and some places do charge big money. I myself am very happy with a $10 dinner.

He might of had a nice bottle of wine... You can usually get a pretty good meal in Parque Lleras for around $10-20. So wine is my guess.

Aside from his taste. I'll agree that he overpays for shitty service. He seems to be going in the opposite direction...

When Sindy at the Mansion let me fuck her bareback, I paid her extra. When she let me do her in the ass, I gave her even more. Some would say I over-payed, but at least the service I received exceeded the norm.

When a girl goes the other way and deducts service, I deduct payment.

Doc, it's nice that you're successful and can afford nice things in life. But paying several times the value of something just because you can disturbs the market and not only does it hike the price for everyone else, the service suffers as well.

Unless you got a voucher for philanthropic write offs, cut that shit out...

Agreed that if everyone overpaid, it would be bad. but dr j is a unique soul who's living life without a care in the world....he doesn't worry about things like overpaying, he's too busy jetsetting around the world eating like a king, taking in the culture, and banging girls he considers attractive. I would switch positions with him in a heartbeat!

Socrates, I completely agree with you but you are hardly leading an austere life of deprivation yourself!!! I've had a pretty good life with lots of great things ahead of me I expect, but still I would like to come back in the next life as Socrates.

I don't even travel yet I've read most of Jag's reports and clearly he derives pleasure out of taking in the finer things in life including fine food and wine even if he is alone. I envy him for that because if I'm alone I would just as soon be at a waffle joint with a newspaper and so I miss out on more flavorful tastes of the world, though I may be better informed. I also don't share Jag's taste in women but don't get why he's assaulted for his personal taste. As for the suggestion that Jag and a few others like him could alter the Peruvian/Columbian markets by visiting once every couple or 5 years is just preposterous. The market just is what it is and though this be one of the oldest most worn out topics in the history of prostitution boards, no amount of collusion among this group will change the world.

The way I look at it, a reporter and photographer who posts honest, informational trip reports that state no opinions about anything should never be in the position of having to defend himself. No opinions (just personal taste), no bullshit equals no controversy.

Concur with Erip.

Jagg has done many trip reports with tons of pictures and details. They might not appeal to everyone but the man is contributing and updating on places I'd love to travel to.

On the one hand, it does look like Jagger is overpaying (though not as much as some of the complainers here make it), but there is also some pathetic "playa hating" going on here.

You guys here do realize there's plenty of Colombian clientele that can easily pay these "inflated" prices? The high-end places like Loutron and Fase II aren't just for dumb gringos with money to burn. This IS Colombia we're talking about here right? It's supposedly "third world", but MDE and BOG are huge money-laundering hubs for the narcotics trade. You guys are forgetting there's plenty of funny money down there that can support these higher prices. In fact, I've heard the hottest prepagas go for a million or more pesos a night.

Still, I think Dr. J could use some mentoring. He should hang out on his next trip with a seasoned monger or two, so he can get a better idea how to negotiate effectively, something that I suspect he rarely has to do in his profession, in which I'm sure he's very successful in, otherwise he wouldn't be able to spend this kind of money in the first place.

you guys get mad at his overpaying and then diss his selection.

If he his overpaying for girls you are not going to fuck who cares? I dont agree he drives up the market for everyone by doing that because most are not going to pay those prices, and well a ho has to eat just like the rest of us.

I just think it's silly paying more for less. It's like tipping more to the rude waitress bringing you cold food. If I see a shirt for $100, and pay the clerk $200, does that make the shirt more valuable?

In the end, it's Doc's vacation and I sincerely hope you enjoyed it. While I'm much more likely to agree with your taste in food than women, I think you have a right to stick any type of woman you want. Thanks for posting.

Jonesie

Honestly, not being a playa hater. I guess he is likely going to do as he does as its his vacation. I am trying to point out some things that he may not notice that could make his trip more enjoyable at half the price. It's constructive criticism. Some people can take it and others cannot.

Be that as it may. Jag has contributed a lot to this site and I dont want to discourage him from continuing to do so. He looks to be a guy in the twilight of his life and just wants to do what he likes regardless of the price. He likes older and rubenesque girls and that's his taste so I shouldnt tell him who to choose. He should know that the lesser girls should charge less as they are in less demand.

I am guessing he doesnt speak much Spanish if any and this may make negotiating or getting your point across more difficult. He likes to have a guide cruise him around and just pick who he likes because he likes the convenience without the hassle.

DIfferent strokes for different folks.

Blazers, you're doing exactly what you say you don't want to do. Jaggerbowski must have spent countless hours putting this report together, only to have you and a couple of others bitch about how much he pays for women, bitch about how much he pays for food, bitch about how much he pays for wine, bitch about his taste in women, etc., etc. Then you say he's in the twilight of his life and speculate he's clueless because he can't speak Spanish. It's not just one or two constructive posts, it's more like you've got some kind of a vendetta. That's got to discourage him from future reports.

(Message edited by Tiny123 on February 18, 2009)

Tiny, you used your semi-annual comment for this?

This is one hell of a post on lots of different locations! Lots of pics, details, and information. I have done my share of girls others would not find attractive, but who gives a crap! It was my experience, not for someone else to judge and if they did - again, who cares. This is not about overpaying or quality control, it is about having fun and enjoying yourself! It sure looks like J did just that!

Open and honest posting is great.... lets encourage it, not discourage!!

Regarding overpaying - this happens everywhere. I know quite a number of guys that will wine and dine with no apparent limits, overpay girls, buy only the best, stay only in the best places, and yes they are visiting 3rd World Countries. If they can afford, more power to them. Unfortunately I can't.... but one guy overpaying, the other underpaying, it all balances out in the end. It is afterall demand and supply - I have seen one girl quote double one night, only to see her the next night in another place quoting half price. Any shrewd person will ask for more money then adjust as the marketplace demands.

Great reports..... quite impressive collection on some interesting places (like Cusco - a place i would never have thought about mongering :-)

Jonesie, You and Blazers may be CH legends, but that's not a good excuse to beat up on Dr. J.

Re: the 70 USD dinner and dining alone, here's the flipside:

You coulda had a 10 dollar dinner and paid 70 when the 10 dollar hooker you were with ordered sumthing that was waaay out of bounds!

Jaggr, GREAT report, and thanks for posting about how you're living it up.

And re: the 'tranny' comments, funny how Blazers LOVES fake tits and vacuumed abs on skinny girls, but on the PLUS SIZED ones he gets uppity?

Tiny, I'm not beating up on the Doc, I'd do the same if you and I were walking down mayorista and you asked a girl "cuanto"?, and she said 25,000 ($10). To which you countered "No, 200,000"($80). I'd let you know you were being foolish...

Porker, I've actually had that happen in Havana more than once. Cubanas order off the right side of the menu. She ordered something that was 35CUC. I asked her about the dish and she said she had no idea what it was. I should have left her with the check...

Good job Doc....I really like the fact that your living it up and enjoying yourself.I have made monthly trips to Medellin over the last 9 months and will continue to so all this year.Those paisas sure have a zest for life.As far as the money that you spend thats your money and you do with it as you please..Guys 900K pesos is not a lot of money for a doctor to spend in a day.

DrBrew1:

Nine trips in less than a year and no trip reports?????

DrJ
Thanks for the fun read, great info and interesting pictures. I love your prioritys fine food and "fine" women. Please take the above comments by our fellow mongers in the spirit they where intended, that spirit is of course one of total envy.

As for the comments about your taste in girls, it seems that you are performance rather then looks orientated, thats not to say that some of the girls where not cute but you seemed to have a great time with the vast majority of girls you sessioned with and in the end isn't a great session what its all about? How many newbies choose the stunning ice queen that fucks like a wife? Looks and service sometimes have an inverse relationship it seems like you have found your happy medium.

Actually he received a lot of covered BJ's from lower grade girls and overpaid them. The worst of all worlds.

No envy here. Now Cubanut in Medellin and Jonesie in Havana....those are trips that I am extremely envious of....

(Message edited by blazers on February 19, 2009)

Speaking of Colombianut, Where's the new report? He puts up the teaser and tortures us with anticipation in the interim. Leaving us to hope he doesn't get hit by a car before he finally posts the report...

Jagger is definately livin large, in more ways than one judging from most of the pictures.
No flight needed to score gorditas like that right here at home & free to boot.
That being said, I still like your reports, great reading. Just have opposite taste in chicas.
Keep mongering.
Stratone

i think the good Dr. J should bring Jonsie and myself with him on a 2 week tour of south America,(all expenses paid of course) and we would write the greatest trip report in the history of Club Hombre as well as enough photos to satisfy everyone

When guys complain about negative comments, my reaction is always the same - the negative comments are by far the most useful to the hundreds of lurkers who read but never post. Personally, I agree with Jonesie and Blazers - the Doc has a long-standing reputation of paying a lot for bad talent, and two of the major points of ClubHombre is to dispense information to help guys 1) avoid overpaying and 2) keep them away from the dregs. Now, one man's dregs are another's beauties, but I would think there are lot better women to chose from then the ones Doc does. What can't be denied is he's way overpaying, and not for good talent either.

As far as taking hookers to expensive restaurants, I find that to be the single most wasteful thing a monger can do. In that case, I'm glad he was alone, since pouring good money away by buying a hooker who thinks a good meal is a hot dog on a street corner an expensive, fancy meal is 100% wasteful. Be it Rio or Medellin or Bangkok or Angeles and a hundred places between all of those, guys need to remember that these girls will be impressed by hot running water and cable TV at your place. You don't need to buy them lobster and like Jonesie said, half the time they'll order an expensive item just because it costs a lot of money. They don't know and don't care about what actually shows up on the plate, they just know it's a week's worth of groceries on one plate so it must be good.

You don't need to wine and dine them beyond what you would usually do for yourself. Don't have a shit meal just to drop down to her level of comfort, but don't take a hooker to the most expensive places.

And regardless of where you are, always insist on a bareback blowjob. Covered ones are horrible and life's too short to tolerate them.

A worthy motto for Club Hombre: "Life is Too Short for Covered Blowjobs."

i've read this whole report........
I do agree of the higher side of payment for these girls , but whatever, us bashing someone won't change it. Will I pay these prices , no way! But I really appreciate this fact filled report Dr.J!

As for talent level , that all subjective .... so i think it should really not be a discussable issue!

I mean some guys like fucking midgets , some grandmas , it takes all kind of cars to make a free way. Bottom line , when you bust the load , if your happy with how it went, then that was the right girl.


Thank you for your contributions and keep it up Dr.J!

-Smuckin

Catocony, I disagree with just about everything you wrote. A major point of Club Hombre and similar boards is to dispense accurate information. When you start ridiculing people for what what you believe is overpaying, they're going to clam up or just omit or lie about the prices in their reports. Apparently, you believe no monger should pull a woman from a place like Casanova, Fase II or Le Palace. Or if he does he shouldn't report the price.

Yeah, it is worthwhile when somebody points out you can get service on site (instead of takeout) at Fase II a good bit cheaper than 300,000. Or you can get a better price if you negotiate. But this is dogpiling.

Furthermore, the women in Dr. J's report weren't that bad. Some of them were really hot. If you tried to bang a bunch of hookers and were only willing to pay 60,000 a shot for service in your apartment, you probably wouldn't end up with the same average quality the doctor did.

About hookers and restaurants, I've had good and bad experiences. If you're with a street whore, yeah, it's often a waste. On the other hand, I rented a girlfriends before who took me to some really good restaurants, ordered for me, etc. It was great.

And the blow jobs, I ended up with a nasty infection once that settled in my prostate and gave me trouble for years after a BBBJ from a hooker. You can get chlamydia, gonorrhea, herpes, etc. And so can the woman. If I'm with a skanky whore, I'll usually skip the blow job. Like you, a covered BJ doesn't do much for me. I guess we agree about that.

Tiny, You're still not getting it. I've paid top dollar for women on more than one occasion.

For example, one of the mansion girls who I won't name came to my room, gave me the blowjob of my life, cleaned my balls, my rim for good measure, blew me and swallowed. Fucked the hell out of me bareback, spend the night, fucked me again in the morning like a champion and let me do her in the ass to boot. All for about the same as Doc blew in an hour on one of his weight-watcher/clock-watcher honeys.

We're discussing VALUE, not just price. If Doc had gotten the above mentioned services at twice the price, I would have said "Wow, You paid quite a bit, but it looks like you had some pretty serious fun".

Aside from his taste. Most would agree he got shitty service. Especially for what he paid. THAT'S what we're baggin' on him for...

And to join the chorus, Covered blow-jobs should be illegal...

As a poster whose choice of women has been criticized, I know that the critics didn't see what I saw in the various girls. Whether it was a result of my (lack of) amateur photography skills, or the fact that my tastes simply differed from those of the critics, doesn't matter. I posted a lot of detail about my various experiences during my trips, sometimes with exquisite pornographic detail, other times not, but with as many photos as I could. The point was to convey information about one (old) man's experience with some of what was available (sexually and otherwise), and I could care less whether anyone liked my particular choices.

Excellent work sharing your experiences, Dr. J, and thanks for taking the time to do so. I must say I agreed with ALL your exquisitely detailed choices in cuisine, and you even had some girls I'd like to do. But you gave a LOT of good information, and the discussion here has been dissecting then enlarging and illuminating that further, to everyone's benefit.

Opinions are like assholes--everybody has one.

And yes, covered blowjobs are a dealbreaker for me, other than in a rare exceptional circumstance.

Tiny; One point that Cat left out is that what Blazers and Jonesie have been saying here, and others that have sent Dr.J PM's is an attempt at CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM I don't see anyone here beating him up, now if we were comparing his girls to say.....Oprah, then we would be beating him up.

One last thing, Bwana, and Cat are 100% correct. Life is too short for covered blowjobs.

Seriously! If during negotiations a girl tells me she only does covered blowjobs, then the blowjob is completely off the menu. I may on rare occasions decide to go forward and fuck her, but I will not submit to a CBJ. No way. CBJs are the ultimate turnoff.

I am very surprise to see how much controversy this report is generating. I wonder what will happen if we added a little bit of real life issues like economy or politics to it, I would have to set aside the entire weekend to read it.

I myself usually don't write reports even when I have traveled extensively in the last 5 years. Usually for the same reason to avoid finding out that everyone has an opinion as well as an ass. I personally don't feel the need to get scrutinized about my traveling or personal preferences, as seems to be the case with Dr J. report.

This whole controversy can be seen as a healthy point about general consensus, or a mute issue about differences in social class, preferences, age, life expectations or even cultural differences. We are all under the CH heading but that fact hardly make us a homogeneous group. It is impossible to compare the needs, wants or opinions of so many different mongers. Try comparing anyone in the 25 to 35 years old monger group with someone in the 45 to 55 age range. It would make no sense to think that accommodations, language skills or traveling preferences, or dinning or women taste or any of so many things will be the same, not even within the same age group for that matter. We need to understand and accept that everything about mongering is a variable and that there are infinite ways to handle our trips and our relations with the sweet goodies we all want. The only thing that we can all unanimously agreed is that we are all looking for WOMEN, even better said pussy.

I just hope that all this commotion do not detract other mongers of providing truthful and accurate accounting in their trip reports, or even detract them from even posting in this forum. We all have to agree that such an ending will undoubtedly harm the very purpose of CH to provide accurate information and guidance to future trips by way of other fellows experiences.

Fase Dos is an expensive place. I scored there by getting the girl I wanted phone number and scheduling her the next day for half the price. The price they tried to get me for was 450,000. Ha! But hot chicks do expect 200,000 down there.

Not quite all. I just had a hot one for 35K, but I live here.

Im not an experienced monger so I cant comment on girl quality, but as a man who loves to eat well, I dont have a problem with the good doctor spending $70 on dinner for himself. I have spend well over that for some of the best dinners I have had and it looks like he enjoys eating, so let him be.

oh and Thanks for a Kick ass report Dr. Cant wait to get down to colombia.

seriously dr. j we could have found u much better girls for the same prices. don't u think guys? jesus christ you should have tried a few casas instead of loutrons and fase II. even the mansion girls are cheaper than this. why didn't u go there?

dude needs some lessons in findings the puta bitches.

DR.J you did a great job in posting the pics and guys respect a men's decision its his freaking money and he can pay how ever much he wishes to pay for a puta at least that its not a bad looking puta and why go to Mansion when you know you are going to pay double then for what he pay Mansion is for guys who dont speak spanish at all or who are either afraid of going out there boundaries I am a hardcore monger who has travel to every top mongering destination and remember guys to each its own what ever rocks there boat and there wallet be fair and don't judge the guy who is just having a great time and I can less if the puta goes back to the club because I am not the type to judge

How about remembering punctuation?