First the saunas:
I recommend Good World 1st which is right across from Spring Hotel, then New Chang An Health Center 2nd. Both will give very thorough servicing.

Good World does not have the red rope but more than makes up for it with their feet sucking/licking/light biting. They also will use a vibrator on you around sensitive erotic zones. The ladies seem to consistantly give gr8 service and the talent is gr8. Hours: 1pm to 5am. Price for 1st visit about 330, with coupon, around 250 for 90'

Chang an's talent is also pretty good. They have red rope and have also started this act where they trace all the curves of your ear with their tongue. The service is pretty consistant, but the mamasans there often try to force you into taking the more expensive rooms. price should be 240-250rmbs, but more often than not, later in the night, they may only offer the 300rmb rooms, and they haven't been giving out the coupons for a more affordable next visit. Hours: 24/7. Morning shift starts at 9am. again, 90'.

The sauna to the rt of spring hotel has been slacking as far as controlling the service level their gals provide. I'm no longer recommending this place.

There are a couple of other saunas that I recently visited. One isn't worth a mention, the other had some gr8 talent but the service wasn't up to par and it was expensive. I'm not recommending either but will draw up a map and post it here when I have more free time.

Streetgirls and their scams:

First off, sgs are considered by most locals and visitors alike as the worse performers out of all the other options this city has to offer. However, in my experience, they've been the best performer but you have to play your cards right.

I've had years of experience dealing with streetgirls so I'm sure that has helped. Also, it seems that language is much more important than I previously thought to ensure great service from theses sgs.

ok, onto sg scams.
1) bait and switch. this may happen if you try to call one from the numbers they give you. If the girl you want is unavaliable, they still want your business, and will typically send someone else over.

2) the 3-some scam. Be wary if the girl wants to know your room number, especially if they are texting it to someone else. This is the 2 girl scam, where they will voluntarily call a friend to your room and try to get you to pay for a two girl session. Note: if the 2nd girl stays for a certain period of time, you may be forced to pay for a session with her by the chinese mafia.

Important note:
Keep in mind that the streetgirls on LHL are controlled by the chinese mafia so no matter what happens in the room, if the girl is in your room for longer than 15' and some sort of action has taken place, you're pretty much required to pay her in full even though she didn't come though with everything promised. e.g. the girl agrees to bbbj but once in the room, will only do cbj. If you decide to dock the fee because of this, you may have chinese mafia types at your door. That said, the girls typically don't use these bad boys to their advantage as it will also causes them pain and suffering for causing trouble and it's also bad for the reputation of streetgirls.

Please remember, going to the police may have you kick out of the country at the end of it all. Not really an option.

Tip, try to negotiate most of what you want before walking along with them too long. Once they've been walking with you for awhile and have signaled their boss that they've caught a customer, they will say anything to stay the course without any real intention of following through. This is 2nd to pressure from the mafia to close the deal.

Note, half the guys you see on the streets actually work for the chinese mafia, they are alot of eyes on the streets. They will look out for their girls by spotting incoming police or serve as back up for the girls if trouble arises during the session.

My advice, keep a poker face and try to get the girl to follow though with all that was promised but know in the back of your head that you're going to eventually have to pay up.

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3) the long time. The boss of the streetgirls instruct them to cut the long time early. Most LTs end at the end of their shift or about 4-7am. If you find a real performer and are up to screwing all night without any sleep, then this may be a good option for you. Price should be 500-600 but that starts later at night typically.

(Message edited by socrates69 on June 20, 2009)

BBS action:

There is BBS action just off LHL road, but the talent level isn't high. Still, might be some gems every now and again and the price can't be beat at 130 rmb for short time.

Directions: walk down lhl, when you see the big coke sign on your right, head down the alley.

I have been to those BBS several times, and I always thought the talent was a no go. But it didn't matter because there was never a single bbs girl there whoever expressed any willingness to go with this westerner.

IMHO the non-Asian looking mongers, and those who don't have any language ability Zhuhai mongering is a much tougher nut to crack than Dongguan (CA/CP.) It's a shame because the LHL street is probably a much more appealing set-up to most whiteys than the options in Dongguan.

Important for sgs: know how to say basic words like yes, no, and sexual stuff like suck and fuck.

wuah = I
knee = you

yuow = want
bu = no

therefore,
boo yuow = no want
wuah boo yow = i no want.

touw-zhee = condom
twey = suck (bj)
yuong = use

so you could combine it to say:
boo yuow yuong touw twey-zhee = no want use condom suck = you want a bbbj

or if you want to complicate it you may say:
wuah boo yuow knee yuong touw-zhe twey

*it's important that you negotiate this before you take a sg up otherwise they may try to skip the bj altogether and then upsell it. I had tremendous luck with the sgs every time I've gone to zhuhai but they are notorious for giving mediocre service so the more language you learn, the better your chances of decent service.

Also note, if things just aren't working out for you in Zhuhai, ChangPing is a short bus ride away. You'll enjoy the amps, scenery and food at the very least.