First of all I was not going to write a trip report on Zhuhai as there are great reports on Zhuhai and especially many thanks to Socrates69 for the very detailed and entertaining report that inspired me to make this trip to Zhuhai. I never thought I would have to What I experienced at Zhuhai is my personal experience and not to refute any reports but to give a field report so if others are planning trips to Zhuhai they would plan accordingly. CH has been a tremendous help and my only source of information and I greatly appreciate the information I get from this site and this is an attempt to give up to date report on Zhuhai so others can avoid the frustration and disappointment I experienced in Zhuhai.

My first trip to mainland China was in planning for almost 3 months and almost never happened due to work related issues. But my visa was going to run out so I hastily arranged this trip and was planning on going to Guangzhou, Zhuhai, and CP. My best friend, nicknamed TnT lives in Gunagzhou but I had not been in touch with him for at least 15 years or so. When I realized how close these 3 cities were I got his information from TnT’s family in the States and got in touch with him. Long story short, TnT tried to warn me about Zhuhai and insisted I go to Macau instead. I refused so he went to Macua on his own and I got a 5 star hotel in Zhuhai called “Zhuhai Holiday Resort Hotel”. I had detailed notes from many reports on Zhuhai especially from Socrates69 latest report and I started my Zhuhai experience by showing up at Good World hotel. I asked the receptionist what floor Sauna was and she said there was No Sauna. I thought I might be at the wrong place so I preceded to the next place on my list, Chang An health club/Sauna. Initially I was not able to find this place and also it was very late at night so I decided to go back to my hotel and utilize the services of the assistant manager who spoke some English and promised to find me a company for the night. The company he provided did not work out as she refused to do BBBJ and even BJ with condom so I had to call the assistant manager back and sent the girl away with some cab fare. Second day I was back at the hunt to find the Chang An place where they offered the red rope service and I could not find this place. I found Chang An hotel and they also said they did not have a Sauna. There are 6 different Chang An hotels operated by the same company and I went to all 6 Chang An hotels and only two of them offered legit massage, with their top deal in 120 RMB range so I knew these were not the places. Luckily I got in touch with Socrates69 and he gave me some pointers on how to find this place. It turned out that this Chang An place is not a hotel and did not even have a board. But according to Socrates69’s directions I could not find this place but I noticed there was one shop that always had the shutter down but I thought it must be another shop so did not pay much attention to it. Back and forth with Socrates69 and MongerX and now I was getting really frustrated by not finding this place. So I thought I should just got to Jin Yu hotel which had some action in front of the hotel. So I went there and the guys standing up front told me right away “only massage, no sex, no bj, only massage”. Now I was getting really frustrated and was thinking to cancel my whole China trip and just go somewhere else.

I have been mongering for a long time, too long to mention it here and before I discovered Colombia all of my mongering was done in Asia and a little in Europe but I had never felt so isolated and language handicapped as I did in Zhuhai. Next day I asked a taxi driver to take me to any Sauna by using my iphone English-Chinese translation app and he brought me back to Jin Yu hotel again and told me to go the 3rd floor. I had been there a few times so I thought what the heck and just went to the 3rd floor. When the elevator door opened at the 3rd floor there was clearly a lot of noise on this floor and I thought wow I finally found something but the guy there told me “closed, closed” and did not even let me out of the elevator and pressed the lobby button. I was really surprises and disappointed as clearly there was something going on. So I made a plan to come back there again and hopefully this guy won’t be there. So I decided to look for Chang An one more time and this time I knew I found this place as the shutter was up and it looked what Socrates69 described. I went upstairs and the whole place was a mess and under renovation. There were a few construction workers and no one said or asked me anything so finally the mystery of Chang An was solved and it was under renovation. I went back to the hotel and returned to Jin Yu hotel about 10-12 hours later and went up to the 3rd floor. At this time there was a different guy working and there was definitely something going on but I had the same experience and the guy did not even let me out of the elevator.

There was some SG scene for sure with about 30-35 SGs hanging around. One tall cutie approached me from behind and when I turned around she was shocked, stopped in her tracks, and then ran like she had seen a devil or something. This actually made me laugh a bit as I now realized that I am a white devil and even street girls won’t have anything to do with me. I did take a street girl back to the hotel and she was OK but language was a major issue and I just could not get her to shut up. I showed her my iphone translation several times that I did not understand a word she was saying but it didn’t matter.

I had been in touch with MongerX via IM and he mentioned that China National day is starting on October 1st and there may be a crackdown due to this. So I went back to CH and read all reports on Zhuhai and got more addresses from some old reports and went to those places. Amazing all these places were under renovations. What is the chance of that all of the Zhuhai Sauna establishments decided to do renovations at the same time? They all must have coordinated well in advance to do that. By now it was time to get the heck out of Zhuhai and either go to CP or go back home. I am staying with my friend in Guangzhou tonight and he is taking me out to the places in Gunagzhou even thoug he disapproves P4P lifestyle and is into non-pro scenes.

Below are a bit of high points of my trip to Zhuhai. I found a great seafood restaurant thanks to MongerX for the tip. I had the “hairy crabs” that is seasonal and only available during September/October. These were excellent crab and I will definitely have them again before I leave China.







I am sure others had a great time in Zhuhai. My timing and skin color was probably a major factor for me to had such an experience and I am definitely writing this place off my list of places to revisit. For me Zhuhai really, really, and really sucks.

I tried to warn people after Socrates posted his report, white faces should not expect the same experience. I have been Zhuhai a couple of times since my initial reports but just for one nighters. IMHO, Only the bottom of the barrel LHL street girls will go with white guys. At the saunas generally the girls will try and short you on services and time if you don't speak the language and/or hold your ground. And it sounds like they are in severe crackdown mode now in which only known customers get served.

It is a shame that Zhuhai is so damn laowei unfriendly - it's even worse than Geylang in Singapore and about on par for Miri (or Texas town in Seoul.) Zhuhai is actually an attractive fun city. And the set-up with the beer bars and massage parlors is what white devils like. I live in China and have mongered a lot in Southern China the past couple of years, if you look western do not be duped by some of the Zhuhai reports. You will be infinitely more satisfied in Dongguan (Changping and Chang An in particular.)

PM, I am not sure why you would waste your precious few days in China trying for P4P in Guangzhou, where the action is reportedly expensive and mercenary. GZ is the one of the four most expensive cities in China. Nirvana is a 30 minute train ride away in Changping (Dongguan station.) I suspect, if you meet up with the contacts I have sent you, shortly you will be kicking yourself in the ass for not going there right away. BTW, you haven't called me since you got your #, but I forewarned my contacts you will be in touch. He said you hadn't contacted him yet, but they were going to Hui Hua KTV tonight. That place has a very good line-up now and is one of the best hotels in CP. You could have been in five star hotel. Partying you brains out with hots KTV babes, and getting service supreme PSE sex, and a killer foot massage without leaving the front door.

thanks for the feedback. Such bad luck going to zhuhai and having it's main attraction, the saunas, closed.

Follow mx's lead and head up to CP asap. Hanging at the ktvs with good people and hot chicks is really a treat. Good luck!

PhdM, really sorry to hear about the bad experiences in Zhuhai, I do agree with MX and Soc, you will find ChangPing to be better all around. I was there once 2 yrs ago w/4 guys (veritable UN, incl one that spoke mandarin) and we all got lucky I guess. But at least we have Colombia for ourselves. M

Thanks MX. The phone I bought was a 2nd hand and it did not charge even after charging it all night long and then I was in transit and came to GZ. I bought a brand new phone last night and it is fully charged now and I will call you today during decent hours. TnT tells me the SIM card I bought is no good and do not add more money to it and when I run out of money on my current sim card then buy a new one. I will also be going to CP today probably after lunch hours. Will be making a few calls shortly to arrange things.

Thanks for all your help.

PhD

PhdM,

Sorry to hear your bad experience. I was there couple of years ago when LHL was good and I had good but not great experience.

Why didnt you take a bus or taxi over to CP. I just came back and it is rocking as usual.

Sorry guys for hijacking this report, but I have a question. Why there are no reports on Marianna Islands or Guam? Has nobody been there?

Thank you.

Just got back from China and had a blast in CP and a lot of fun in Guangzhou as well. Will write a short informational TR on Gunagzhou since it is not widely covered here at CH.

PhD

Thanks for the report.

Re: Used phone not charging, might wanna check if it's a battery problem before buying a new phone. Sticking you with a crap battery when you buy a used phone seems like a common Asian cellphone purchase experience.

That crab in the middle picture is so hot. I wonder what she would look like with my dick stuck inside her cute little pincers. I bet she gives good DFK too.

I found a new app for my iphone called "world fucker" and you can program it to actually speak to the cab driver and tell him you wanna get laid. It is supposed to be one of the hot new sellers.

"My best friend, nicknamed TnT lives in Gunagzhou but I had not been in touch with him for at least 15 years or so."

Well they say absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Guangzhou


Guangzhou has a lot of P4P venues available but it is relatively expensive. My friend TnT is not into KTV scenes but he did take me to 3 different KTVs as I kept insisting on it. So my KTV experience is Guangzhou is pretty limited and what I write here is my observation and may differ with others experiences. The KTVs in Guangzhou seem to be a bit different setup than in CP. The entrance and greeting parts of the KTV is similar but selection seems to be a lot more than in CP. The KTV we visited must have 300-500 girls available. The KTV girls in Guangzhou do not really take off anything even if you offer them a ton of money. Also, going back to your hotel seemed to be an exception rather than a norm as in CP. I must have seen over 1,000 girls in the 3 KTVs we visited that I would have love to spend the night with but since I had a very limited time in Guangzhou my host did not want to go through the hassle of ordering a room, drinks, singing, etc. and then the girls may or may not agree to go back with us. My friend, TnT had other places to show me so we did not select any girl from any of the KTVs.

TnT is really into night club scenes in Guangzhou and he took my to 4 night clubs that night. He told me not to make any selection until I had seen all the night clubs as these clubs were very closed to each other. First we visited a brand new club and its name escapes me at the moment. It was its opening night and they did not even have their cards printed. TnT found out about this club through his connections and also all the drinks for the night were buy one get one free type deal. There were a lot of people in this club but TnT had a table reserved and a ton of his friends were also there. The place was packed with Chinese cuties especially from the Xinjiang area. These girls are a bit different looking than the regular Chinese we are accustomed to. On this trip I did not take my camera with me as I was thinking of buying a new one in China – I used my iphone to snap some photos. After taking about 3-4 photos the manager of the bar came out yelling and told me not to take photos and wanted my iphone but my friend talked to him and he agreed if I delete the photos then he would not take my iphone and I deleted the photos. Not sure how this one survived though.



The crowd was sort of mixed in this bar. About half Chinese and half expats. They played the music from all over the world even American and music had a nice beat to it and people were dancing on the dance floor. There were a few girls available for takeout and price started at 1,000 RMB for one hour but price was negotiable.

The 2nd club we went to was named Tang Club. Card is below:




This is a huge club and according to TnT one of the top clubs in Guangzhou. Here there were a ton of girls available from all over the world. Majority of the girls available were from Brazil, Colombia, Cost Rica, China, Cambodia, Vietnam, and ex Soviet Republics especially Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus, etc. Relatively there were more Brazilian and Colombian than any other nationality. I was really surprised to see Brazilians and Colombians there since there are many other places for these girls closer to home where they could make money. Anyway, these girls get 3 months visas to stay in the country and then they make Macau runs to get the visas extended. There were again over 3 dozen girls I would have love to spend the night with but as I mentioned earlier, TnT told me not to make any selection until I have seen all 4 clubs. The pricing here started at 1,000 RMB for one hour and again price was negotiable.

The next club we went to was the Kama club. Here is the card of this club.




This club had the live band and it was really an international band. One girl from China, one from Cambodia, lead singer from some African country and the rest of the band was from Colombia. We ended up spending most time in this club than any other club. The band sang English, Chinese, Spanish, French, African songs and was truly impressive band with perfect beat and harmony. There were a ton of girls available here from every major country of the world even from Iran and Afghanistan. Again, there were more Brazilians and Colombians available here than any other nationality. I was really having fun at this club and all of a sudden I spotted the cutest Colombian I had ever seen in Colombia or outside Colombia. I tried to ignore her as I was in China to have fun with Chinese and not with Colombian and I go to Colombia 3-4 times a year so why bother with a Colombian in China. But this girl had the looks I love and body to die for and was sitting quietly in a corner and I just had to have her. I told my friend TnT that I must take that Colombian back to his apartment and spend the night with her no matter what it cost. Here is the interesting part; TnT said that girl was NOT Colombian. I told TnT how many Colombian runs I had made and I can spot a Colombian a mile away when I see one. He insisted that the girl was not Colombian and we had a bet of 1,000 RMB. I was really enjoying this as I thought my night was going to be partially paid for by TnT. TnT said now that we had the bet that the girl was from Uzbekistan and not from Colombia. I thought not a chance. I don’t know how Uzbeks girls look like but I sure know how Colombian look like and since there were a ton of Colombians in this club I was more than sure the girl I wanted to take back was a Colombian. Anyway, we went to her table and started a little talk, the girl spoke some English and we asked her about her nationality and she said she was from Uzbekistan. I was really shocked and didn’t know what to say. I spoke a couple words of Spanish and she did not understand anything. Then her friend came to her table and started talking in a tongue that sure was not Spanish. I couldn’t believe Uzbeks and Colombian girls have so many similar features. Similar noses, lips, eyes, hips, tits, ass, and so on. Then I realized I have never done an Uzbek girl before and I may have been too confident to classify her as a Colombiana. TnT asked me if I was still interested in the girl even though she was not Colombian and I said absolutely yes. We negotiated the price for 2,000 RMB for LT and I left TnT and he got us a taxi and we went to TnT’s apartment. TnT lives in a posh area of Guangzhou and has a 3 bedrooms 2 bath apartment. It is very nice but it is still not a Marriott or a 5 star hotel but this girl did not care and we had a lot of fun and I did not get a single minute of sleep that night and neither did she. She showed me some photos of her country on her cell phone and she surely was from Uzbekistan and not from Colombia. This girl was probably one of the most beautiful girls I ever had the pleasure to spend the night with. I have done many model type beautiful and extremely expensive girls but this was right in top 10 categories. This girl even made me breakfast and cleaned up all the dishes after the breakfast. Folded my towel and clothes and even made the bed after we were done. A real gem to keep but unfortunately it was going to be my last night in Guangzhou as I was headed back to CP in the morning and then back to the US so I wish I had found this girl a few days earlier.

If you like seafood then Gunagzhou is a great place for seafood. There is a wholesale seafood market and we went there and had a great time. You buy your seafood from 100s of different vendors and then there are a ton of restaurants/hotels that will cook your seafood for you according to your specifications. We were 5 people and everyone picked something to their liking and then we had it cooked the way we wanted. The restaurants provide all the vegetables, alcohol, among other things. I had a card from the restaurant but I can’t locate it at the moment.

Also, similar to Singapore and other places you can have you clothes tailored made in Guangzhou. I bought two suits cloth and had it tailored made and it was fairly cheap. I am not sure about the cloth as I have no expertise in it and relied on my friend to ensure we picked something good but the tailor made it perfect for my size and charged me 400 RMB per suit. You can also buy a suit for this price but I did not like the cloth and picked my own and paid extra for the cloth. I think around 400-500 RMB per suit. Here is the card of the tailor:

Chang Ping


There has been a ton of information on the mongering scene in CP so I just post some of the cards where I had a great time. Luckily MongerX got me in touch with the right crowd and we did KTVs every night in a group. All of these guys were from the ISG board but I am not a member of the board but it did not matter. We all had the same idea of having fun in CP. I stayed at the Clipper hotel and MongerX contact got me a cheaper rate than what is printed here:






I got a few cards just by walking around and then called some of these girls to come to my hotel and I had a great time with all of them. Language was a major problem in negotiating prices with girls and street girls had no set prices, such as the girls who just gave me their cards or I just found them on the street but overall I had NO bad experience with any of the girls or venues in CP. What a difference when comparing Zhuhai and CP. As MongerX mentioned above, if you don’t look like Chinese or Asian than your experience may be the opposite of what a Chinese or Asian looking guys have. I do regret going to Zhuhai in the first place and then spending 3 days trying to find action there. This trip to China was hastily arranged and I did not do all my home work that I usually do when going to places I have never been. This time Zhuhai was going to be the ground zero for me and I had a short visit planned to CP. Next time I’ll be more prepared but I am not going back to Zhuhai even though things may get back to normal after the crackdown but I think CP is much better venue and if I like to explore the bar scene then Guangzhou is a great place. A bit expensive but there is a lot of variety and you can also find the beauty of ex Soviet Republics especially Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and even Iran.

Below are some of the cards of the girls, hotels, etc.

This girl gave me her card on the street and somehow convinced me to see her inventory on a walking distance and picked one tall one for ST. 300 RMB for 90+ minutes or so.



Silver Star hotel is a walking distance away from the Clipper hotel. Here mommies were aggressive and each one had her own card. I tired girls from the following mommies and all girls were great. 300 RMB for 90+ minutes or so.




 




Swan Lake hotel has very similar setup as with any full service hotels. This hotel had an ATM and I ended up there a few times and sampled the girls there as well. Right now Clipper hotel seem to have a better talent and service than Swan Lake hotel.





I visited many KTV in CP and they were all great. But I had the best time in this KTV as both of the girls I selected for the nigh were great and a lot of fun and took great care of me. I would have stayed a few additional nights just to revisit this KTV but I was running out of time so did not go back.





This card is just a blur and I can’t remember if it was a KTV or just a Sauna place. But I must have enjoyed this place as I only kept the cards worth sharing with my fellow Hombres.





The following one I met at Clipper hotel lobby and she was there with 4 girls and showing them to some Chinese customer and I happened to be in the lobby and picked one of them to come back to my room for 300 RMB for 60+ minutes.

Great and interesting report. For yours and general information all the "street" girls and card girls you are pulling in CP are BBS's. You are consinstently overpaying by 100-150 yuan. Please don't do that as they will think that all white guys should pay that new rate you are establishing. Standard should be 50 or 100 for the mammasan and then 100 to the girl. If the girl comes direct to your room, give her the full amount and she will take care of the mamasan.

BTW, I love the Virgin KTV too. Historically the girls have great fun playful and somewhat raunchy attitudes and they have had some of the best uniforms ever! Glad your trip turned around, and you can see that CP is just a sea of pussy. Next time try and check out Chang An where the KTV's and Sauna blow away CP in terms of wildness, service, and attitude.

As for Zhuhai, they don't want our white devil dollars, then fuck them and we can take our biz elsewhere.

I was wondering if BBS rates had gone up with all these 300 yuan rates being quoted. Good to see it's still 150-200.

I just about choked at the 1000 hourly rates in Guangzhou. I knew it was expensive there, but not like that....

Thanks for all the info. Did you pay up on the bet?

Thanks MongerX for the information. Actually I did not realize the street girls were from BBS. I did go to one BBS and those girls were sort of locked down in a room and I did not feel comfortable with the whole setup so I did not experience any BBS. But I’ll be sure not the spoil the going rate next time when I am in CP. I did not pay any money to any of the mommies and paid directly to the girls. Same thing with KTV and Sauna girls. One more thing I forgot to share was the foot massage place at the Clipper hotel which was supposed to 100% legit and when I went there for foot massage I did not expect any extras. But after the foot massage the girl started kissing me (uninvited) and then obviously it led to BBBJ. Went there for a repeat and asked for the same girl and had the same experience. So even the 100% legit places are not that legit.

Murasaki, yes I did pay up the bet but TnT lost another bet that Dave Gahan (Depeche Mode) was dead and he is not so we ended up even. The 1,000 RMB/hour is the asking price and just like anything else in that part of the world it was negotiable. I heard 800 RMB for 2-3 hours was the going rate but I only took one girl out for the whole night and she was worth every penny.

PhD, The BBS girls aren't locked down. The doors are locked like that in case of police raids. When you call a mommy she can bring a line-up to you, that's what you are seeing. Also, the bbs girls are often roaming around the street the Clipper hotel is on, but just getting food, shopping and etc., but of course any oppotunity to get paid is always welcome. But they are really no true street girls in CP.

Also, if you negotiated 300 directly with the girl. I am sure she would want to collect it all from you and keep mommy uniformed of her little windfall!

Haha, Clippper footie 100% legit. I don't think so. More like about 50%. It's actually my home footie place now. They got a combo of great straight massage girls, eye candy hotties, and playful little sluts.


It's sounds like you got #168, I just got an incredible balls draining BBBJ from her yesterday. I probably overtipped her at 200, but I am weak man for a girl who continues to suck and mouth fuck you cock after you cum. My buddy also took her up to his room for an hour last month, and she fucked him three times. He said she was a nympho who just kept initiating round after round until he said uncle. He topped her up 300 for that. Note you still have to pay for the foot massage fees of about 45 per hour. I also heard some got checked into the hotel and booked all of her hours for 8 straight days. Note she is a little older at 23 or 24, but she has a sexy little spinner body. If your girl was not 168 please share her info here or in a PM.

Also, for a clean massage I can strongly reccomend 21. She is still thin and nice body, but the face will make you loose your erection. Nevermind sit back and let her that magic and work out all your knots and stress.

Anyway, next time you come and I am around. I will take you CA for the KTV's and Saunas, the girls are much more awesome than the one's in CP.

MX, the girl I had at Clipper foot massage on 4th floor was definitely not 168 as she had a two digit number. I had written down 3 numbers, 51, 23, and 32. Number 51 was a recommendation from our ISG friend but when I went there for the first time she was not available but either 23 or 32 was and then I did a repeat with the same girl. She is a bit tall, skinny, and probably in mid-20s and goes through the whole legit foot massage routine and then does the happy ending. I tried to rush her the 2nd time around and start with happy beginning rather than the happy ending but she stuck to her routine. I can’t believe it but I actually tipped her less than what you tipped you girl. I tipped her 100 RMB first time around and 140 the 2nd time. Yeah, great I did not spoil these rates for a change.

I’ll coordinate my timing with your schedule next time but it will be in mid 2010 or so. I am headed to Colombia on December 7 for probably my last mongering trip of 2009.