Subic Bay, Philippines: the Guide / FAQ 10-2009

(big web link list at bottom of this)

Per-intro by author:

Not much is written on the monger boards about the Subic Bay area of the Philippines. The one board, http://www.piatnight.com/ , that has active Subic Bay coverage is heavy populated by bar owners, managers, hotel owners, and others quite invested in the well being of their market. I myself have been active there and respect them, but at times it feels like a happy go lucky brochure rather than an open analysis.

Of course, do your own research. I do not mean this as an end all tome to that of which Subic Bay is.

Intro:

Near a generation ago it's scene fueled by the US Navy dwarfed nearby Angeles City which supported the US Airforce's Clark AFB. The go-go's of Subic Bay went into great decline nearly disappearing by most standards when the Navy pulled out, but have seen a resurgence and a new investment in bar facilities and monger friendly lodging in the last three years. It is a budget destination and if well played in a moderate hotel daily costs can be $100-150US. The main foreign monger area is really a branch of the current Angeles City model and AC is where the new money and mongers are coming from for the most part. The basic mantras for luring mongers to Subic Bay are “Hey AC vet, take a break at the beach without the learning curve just an hour and a half down west on the new expressway. Call our hotel and we will happily arrange easy pick-up and return. Enjoy cleaner air, a beach, far more tourist activities, and go-go bars you will just as comfortable in. Come relax our more laid back venue with far less hustling and third worldness in your face.”

Location and getting there:

Subic Bay is on the western coast of Luzan Island roughly 140km NW of Manila and 80km SE of Angeles City. Barrio Baretto/Baloy Beach contain the western orientated bars. A few minutes south is the city of Olongapo and the old US Navy base. A few minutes north is Calapandya with more risque bars and full service massage.

From MNL: Taxi likely to cost 4000p+ Private car hired through your hotel or a travel service like Action Travel or BeeLine 3800p+ Victory Liner from the Pasay to Iba passes through Barrio Barretto for around 200p. Also Victory Liner to Olongapo which is more frequent for under 200p plus a 150p trike the rest of the way to the Barrio. Cars take around 2.5 to 3 hours, bus 3-5 hours depending on time of day and traffic. Late night Olongapo to Pasay goes very quick.

From Angeles City: Easiest way is to check with your hotel to get on one of the many 400p vans that take up to an hour and a half. Some hotels will give you free passage with a three night or more stay. There is a public bus route but it is very slow. Private cars run 2000p+

Budgeting: For the Angeles City vet, figure about the same. Average quality hotels run 1500-2000p a night, and there are a couple places like Wild Orchid where you can spend 4000p+ if you wish. Barfines average 1500p, local drinks and beer average 55p, lady drinks 130p, and meals wildly variable. If you are a one girl a day guy, do not drink like a fish, fairly tight on the lady drinks, tip a respectable 200p for overnight girls, stay in a 1500p hotel, and do not go on pricey daytime excurions.. you can do it for as little as $100US a day. Average more likely to be $150-175 and some will go full bore and well crest $200 a day.

English: Nearly all the girls speak American style it well enough to easily communicate. Just keep you vocabulary simple. No problem in hotels, resturants, shops, ect.. either. Part of what makes the old US military areas so easy to navigate.

Barrio Barretto Bars:
About 15 or so bars catering to traveling monger clientele with dancers or hostesses. A few more regular drinking bars at which the wait staff may or may not go with guys on the side. These are along a 1.5km strip called National Highway. Easy and safe to walk it, or trikes for 50p point to point. Number of dancers per bar runs between 8 and 40 or so. Most around 20. Most open at 5 or 6pm with a couple at noon that expand shifts at 5-6pm. Generally a good idea to hit the bars early. Total number girls available for bar fine is maybe 400.

Drinks: San Migel rules PI and runs 50-60p as do local mixed drinks. Nightriders Lounge is the one place that for sure carries Tiger, Heinken, Budweiser, and a couple others. Fancy liquors vary considerably and it is a good idea to ask prices. Ladies drinks cost 100p to 150p at the go-go bars for basic ones and significantly more for fancy drinks or mixers like RedBull or a margarita. Just say regular ladydrink and their should not be a problem Girls not really pushy on LD for the most part and they sip them for 10-15 minutes. Some bars have LD quotas for the girls which effect their dancing salary and they get around half of the price to them.

Bar Fines: (aka EWR, early work release) Same model as Angeles City where the bar fine includes the girls share so any tipping is truly a tip. Range is 1100p to 1600p with no discount for short time only. Vast majority of girls here happy to stay with you until lunch time the next day. A typical tip would be 200p as they are leaving. Be sure to be clear of your wishes with the girl before paying the barfine.

Bell Ringing: Waste of money. Mostly 2000p+ for a couple minutes of attention and your name put up on a wall. If you are blowing money on this kind of shit you either have terminal cancer or should be in a higher end venue IMHO.

What goes on in the bars: Very little to no nudity and the attire is more conservative than Angeles City. T-back bottoms are forbidden. Punters may get a feel, but blow jobs and nude body shots very rare despite what some photos on another site may lead you to belive. Girls do the typical shuffle on stage maybe getting lively for a couple minutes every so often.

How busy are the bars / girls?: Not very. By all accounts this area is currently over built investing towards future returns. Unless their is a drastic change, high season 2009/10 again will see many nice bars near empty in the middle of most evenings. A good share of patrons will be ex-pat locals not barfining often or buying many LD. Many average bar fineable girls will go through long droughts due to lack of punters.

Short time rooms: Only Nightriders has one and it is kinda crappy. 250p plus a full barfine. Some hotels like Sandcastle, Anbon, Dryden's, and CKG have wash-up rates running 300p-700p for a few hours. Suggest just taking them back to your hotel and tipping maid for a clean-up if needed.

Bar hopping with girls: Once you pay the bar fine, girls drink at local prices in their home bar. Mellow place to bar hop to other bars, but expect an occasional LD request for friends.

Clientele: Not many really young guy punters (18-30 range). 40-60 most typical and nearly half of them are local ex-pats or ex-pats from Angeles City. 75% Americans with Brits and Aussies making up most of the rest. Smattering of Japanese, Korean, German, and others. Occasional active duty US military member.

T-Girls (lady boys): Almost none to be found. Perhaps a couple in Agiha(?) karaoke bar which is a shit hole of a place with mostly local Filipinos.

Mamasans: No need to chat with them or buy them drinks. Invisible for the most part.

Girls quality and what they do:
Tend to be maybe a little older on average than Angeles City, but most 18 to 23 with at least one child and a soft belly. Very few of them are true stunners. GFE is the rule with kissing, hugging, and all that. Occasional Cherry Girl (virgin), but far smaller percentage than Angeles City. BBBJ is typical and BBFS, is shockingly common. Many punters choose PI as bareback sex is so common, but many do not admit this. Anal is not common and true girl on girl is also hard to find. For fetishes like S&M, toilet play, and the like are unheard of.

Baloy Beach Bars:
Two floating bars are on Baloy Beach Road just off the National Highway open roughly November to May or so. Same as the Barrio bars, just on floating platforms and opening at noon. A good reason only to go during these months in addition to avoiding the rainy season. Blue Rock is the fancier of the two having two stories and 30 girls and Treasure Island / Voodoo with about a dozen. Both right off shore of their hotel / restaurants with good food they will bring out to you. Blue Rock has the better food of the two.

V-Maxx disco in Barrio Barretto near Baloy Beach Road turnoff:
Not a go-go bar, but a typical disco. Some girls available for bar fine, but vast majority of punters bring their own girls. Some local men, but they keep to themselves. Late at night many bar girls come here after work. If you pick one of them up, expect to still give her a barfine for her home bar. The area is too small for girls to get away with freelancing. Mamasans are tight enough that pissing one off could result in no job at any bar.

Massage Parlors: One in Barrio Barretto. I forget the name, but it runs 2000p plus tip to include full service I have heard. Local ex-pats do not think much of it.

Calapandya: Not my area of expertise. A few bars much more bold than the western area to include nude and toys. Bar Fines available and more pricey. A couple full service massage parlors with short time running under 1000p. These are open to Filipinos. About 10 minutes by trike or Jeepney and most suggest going in a group.

The streets of Baloy / Bario: Some beggars, but not not many and they are not the in your face type. You might run into a freelancer, but quite rare. Street hustlers also pretty mellow and are typically kids selling nuts or guys on the beach selling crap. Side walks are shitty and you often finding yourself in the street to get around parked cars. Watch out for traffic.

Trikes and Jeepneys locally: Jeepneys run up and down National Highway in Barrio Barretto. I think 10p a ride. Trikes run 50p point to point in Barrio Barretto and Baloy Beach and 75p between the two. Same no matter how many passengers. Fair for the most part in pricing. Generally I only take trikes for going home from bars or if going a really long way in the daytime heat. See maps at bottom.

Renting a scooter / motorcycle / car: It is possible, but this venue is small enough and the trikes cheap enough that few would get any value out of it. Traffic wardens are locally known for being even tighter that Angeles City on violations which could be really bad especially if you drink.

Food: At a western hotel a meal will run 250p-400p+. Not very cheap. Blue Rock has the best menu featuring more meats and seafood all imported. Palm Tree Hotel has theme nights. Dryden's OK. Arizona Hotel OK. The street stalls do not look very clean and should be avoided. Best deals for clean and cheap are Rico's on the National Highway serving noodle, rice, chicken, soup and such at 40-110p or Lucky Mike's Sari Sari on Baloy Beach Road with meals 100p-150p. Nothing in this area is outstanding and expect to eat for sustaining energy rather than enjoyment. (sorry, I am a foodie) Nearly every bar has fairly reasonable appetizers they make on-site or send out for.

Shopping: None really. Some in Olongapo and on base, but no deals to be had. Pack in what you want to wear.

Cell phones: Typical SIM and load. If you need to buy a phone, you likely will end up in Olongapo and pay 1500p for a basic new phone.

Internet: Most hotels have Wi-Fi. A number of internet cafes found along the main roads.

Laundry: Either get it done by your hotel or save a small amount and drop off at the laundry mat next door to WetSpot bar. Cost is cheap

Getting Money: Baloy Beach: No ATM or bank. Barrio Barretto: No bank and one ATM at Dryden's resturant with a 5000p limit that may or may not have money in it. Several money changers in in Barrio Barretto with rates a little less than Angeles City or Manila. Many ATM and banks in Olongapo.

Exchanging for Pesos: As with anywhere else, hotels give a shit rate. Hard currency is the ticket in PI and many places do not change travels checks. Several exchange / Western Union shops along the National Highway in Barrio Barretto all about the same rate.

Getting to and from Olongapo: Trike for 150p each way (maybe get lucky for less). Ride is kinda freaky up the hill along the coast. Ten minutes or so and I suggest taking your barfine with you and eating lunch. Main square has the banks / ATM / bus terminal. Blue Jeepney for around 21p which is fairly safe stops a block from the square. Transfer Jeepney to get to the mall, but no real point going unless you want to buy a girl clothing. Some discos there, but you would likely be only foreigner in the place.

Getting to the old base / things to do there: This is a pain in the ass as Jeepney do not run on the base and trikes are not allowed in. Nothing is close to the entrances so you need to pay 100p+ for a cab inside the gates. Cab each way is around 400-500p from your hotel. Worthless shopping. Some resturants with the best overall being Pier One on the bay with nightly live music which is pretty good. Go Cart track which is very over priced for what it is. An outdoor Adventure Park jungle style.

Other touristy things: An animal park called Zoobic Safari and a marine park. Both get kinda lame reviews. Ask at your hotel as you need a cab to get to them. Jet skis, boat tours, and ship wreak diving in Subic Bay.

Beach Quality: It would be more fair to call coastline of Barrio Barretto and Baloy Beach a sandy shore than a beach. Sand is very coarse, little surf on a calm day, many report lots of trash washing in after rains, and hotly debated water quality for pollution. Rarely will you see a western tourist frolicking about. View from seaside bars is nice though. Absolutely not a beach destination.

Hotels: Quality to price is fairly similar to Angeles City. Range of 1000p to 2500p for what most in Club Hombre would find suitable. See my links list at bottom.


Conclusion / Editoral: This area is growing through investment. It has not really shown yet that throngs of punter will follow though. It is not a beach destination. The climate is a bit milder than Angeles City and the air cleaner. Street beggars are far less of an issue. Safety is good walking about. Girls go long time and GFE is standard. English is very well spoken. Quite American orientated. Lots of ex-pats about in the bars. Bars are not wild in the main area. Food in marginal overall in quality and price. A number of good value hotels and some fancy. Other activites to be had tourist-wise, but nothing mind blowing. Day time can get boring and many end up keeping girls multiple days partly to help fill time.
IMHO, Subic area is worth a visit for an Angeles City vet wanting a slower pace for a few days on part of a longer trip to the Philippines. Maybe 3-4 days. Some will love it and want to spend more time, but for most a few days plenty. Of course, go to Angeles City for your first PI trip if you have never been. If you do find a girl you really want to spend time with at a bar in Angeles City, Subic is the easiest place to take them as they will know so girls and the scene is much the same on a smaller and mellow pitch plus you can ship them back alone cheaply if need be. Do not prepay her AC barfine.


Links to get you started:

General:
http://www.piatnight.com/ - message board that has a Subic section, but mostly Angeles City - FREE
http://www.visitsubic.org/ - general info
http://www.subicnightlife.com/ -general info
http://www.go2subic.com/ - sorta monger/punter orientated site
http://www.subic.com/ -general info
http://www.mangossubic.com/ -lots of stuff, resturant with a couple of rooms, good info but shit layout

Maps:
http://www.asianescapades.com/free/subicinteractivemap/index.php (a bit out of date)
http://tomrich.sakura.ne.jp/barretto_baloy.html (misses Dreamland Hotel, mouse to move around map)
http://www.arizonasubic.com/Maps/Barretto.jpg ( very out of date)

Travel:
http://www.actiontravelac.com/ -travel agency, has office on Baloy Beach
http://www.beelinetravel.com/ -AC agency that does do some Subic
http://www.victoryliner.com/ -bus company

Hotels: Many of these have good info to read. A few others near main bar area, but they are flea bag type. Others further up or down coast, but too far away to consider.
Baloy Beach:
http://www.bluerocksubic.com/ (good resturant, floating bar, pool sucks)
http://wildorchidsubic.com/ (most decadent in area)
http://www.subicdive.com/ (Johan's Hotel, very basic)
http://www.sheavens.com/ (nice place)
http://www.harleyspub.com/ (best budget hotel by far with a great hangout bar)
http://mossubic.com/ (Treasure Island Hotel- best beach side pool / bar with floating bar offshore. Kokomos is the uglier sister)
Barrio Barretto:
http://www.arizonasubic.com (a classic, mirrors on walls, Score with girls on property, awful pool)
http://www.thepalmtreeresort.com/ (a year old at this writing, nice, ground zero location)
http://www.sandcastle.com.ph/ (basic, Cavern bar onsite, ground zero location)
http://ytamakum.ddo.jp/suzukihotel/ (Japanese orientated, food OK)
http://www.dreamlandresorthotel.com/ (huge pool, a bit out of the main area so expect to trike and jeepney for most outings)

A great report! I was in subic in May and experienced my first typhoon Emong. It rained so hard it rained sideways. Sadly, I did not get to experience Calapandayan as my wingman was in a hurry to get back to Angeles. I thought your conclusions accurate and pretty close to mine.

Thanks very much for this guide. I have never really considered Subic, but this does make me want to at least take a look one day.

Getting out money seems like it would be a major issue there though.

FanTASTIC guide, THANK YOU!!!




Bell Ringing: Waste of money.

I agree 1000%, and also that if this is your "thing", why not be a big shot in a bigger pond like Manila? The good news is that you WILL usually get VIP treatment from the bar manager, for whatever that's worth...

I BMOB (brought my own Barfine) to Subic so didn't get the full bar experience, but I was pretty disappointed in the "nightlife" available there in July '08. It was kind of like the joke of the tree falling in the forest, "what if you opened a bar and NOBODY came"?

The exception seemed to be Score, the bar at Arizona hotel, which had a TON of girls, almost too many to find a seat, but they closed early, if I remember correctly.

I also liked the food at Blue Rock, and had fun hanging our there and drinking in the PM. I was disappointed that the floating bars weren't open in July. Johan's next door was also a great place, and Treasure island was too, except for all the rugrats in the pool.

Re: food, there's a Mexican place on National Highway that's not bad, but not cheap either. I think it's called Papagayo's. I liked Dryden's, but that was in the pre-MO days, so don't know what it's like now.

I stayed at Arizona due to a promo offer from the owner posted on Pi@night. The "standard" room was severely substandard, smaller and more spartan than any room I have stayed in in Asia, and lots of 3rd world snafus. I can't imagine any of the places offering p1000 a night rooms (Johan's?) could be any worse.

Re: being a beach destination, it's about the same as Pattaya's?

I'm gonna sound like a trike fare nazi again, but might be worth mentioning: I was told several times in a three day stay that the cost from Johan's to Arizona was p30. And that was just from asking the trike driver "how much?" after exiting the trike, something I would never advise doing in AC. This was in the daytime, though.

I would love to read any bar reviews from Subic that you can post. My experience in them was very limited, and I'd bet July is ultra-low season, but I only saw one or two bars that had 20 girls, and I would have estimated that the total number of working girls was about 200, not 400.

Thanks again for the AWESOME guide!

Nice guide Keeper, I'll add my input later, but here's a few tips since I was just there.

1) Get a PI@night membership and go to wetspot to get your card. Many hotels and bars discount 10% with it.

2) Don't stay at bluerock. My guest was denied entry. I don't know why, she was of age and works at wetspot. Besides the rooms are very broken down. Arizona w/ your discount is a better value. They really made me feel at home, esp in Score bar.

Gotta run to work now, but I'll post some pics tonight.

OK, here's some Subic pics. Not hard to find all the bars, so not hard to find some cuties.

Photo: US Flag - Rock Lobster
Photos: Beauty - The Cavern 01 02 03
Photo: Playtime - The Cavern
Photo: Tease - Voodoo FB
Photo: Classy - WetSpot
Photo: Refs - Score Bar

An excellent and valable resource you have contributed here. I have stayed at both the Wild Orchid and Johan's. If you got pesos to puke and got honies that like paying in the pool WO is alright. For those on a budget I though Johan's was better than what else was on offer in that price range. Plus the food is cheap and good there.

Actually, I would say the food in Baloy Beach was much better than AC Fields Ave fare. I checked out a couple of the MO properties and there were overpriced and sucky quality as to be expected with his offerings.

The following are QOUTED FOR TRUTH

"Bell Ringing: Waste of money. Mostly 2000p+ for a couple minutes of attention and your name put up on a wall. If you are blowing money on this kind of shit you either have terminal cancer or should be in a higher end venue IMHO. "

"Many punters choose PI as bareback sex is so common, but many do not admit this. "

Johan's has the best food in the area in my opinion, plus a large selection of it not to mention many imported beers. I dive with them too. However, I thought the rooms weren't the best for your money. This is a dive shop after all. I also felt odd parading a date back to such a family centered place. I'll be staying at VIP apartelle up the street this time, getting a studio apartment for the price of a standard room at most places. I'll report back on it next month.

Damn, that girl in the UCLA colored shirt with a bare ass ......amazingly perfect ass....rare for a Filipina.

Keeper: Thanks for doing this. I have been to Subic 3 times, but I always brought my own girls so I never did learn to much about the P4P scene, so this was good stuff:

"Many ATM and banks in Olongapo. "

This is perhaps the biggest drawback to saying here any length of time. On my last trip I wanted to get some money and i thought it would be easy. Could not find an ATM's not broken. I finally did find some downtown, but they ALL had a line of like 40 people waiting to get money. One of them had a sign that said, come back at 3pm, no money now. This could be a real pain in the ass i you were running out of money.

On my 3 trips, I stayed at Kokomo's. They have 2 bungalows. If you look on the website it appears the 2 bungalows are little houses on the beach. Not true. They are just two bedroom units with a kitchen. A little bigger than a normal room.

My last trip I had 12 girls pile in to the van. I was only planning to bring 8, but 4 more jumped in and I could not say no. I rented one bungalow, and two rooms across the hall. (open air hallway). We had a blast.

They night when we arrived I rented a boat. Two guides. they took me and the girls out to explore the little islands. As the sun went down. It was great but some of my girls were scared and did not want to do it again.

Next day I rented jet-skis. It is a little expensive, but for an hour we had a blast. Having little hands wrapped around my waste as I plowed through the water with them screaming was fun. I would take a girl out for a short ride, then go back and change girls. Sort of like how I fuck them.

At night, we had orgies in the room. These girls had so much fun that they were ALLLL over me. I can't go into much detail, but having 6-8 girls on top of you at one time is a blast. They all had a piece of me that night.

Twice I took my girls down the highway to the karaoke bar. We sang and drank red horse for hours. There were working girls there, but the hottest 6 girls in the place were with me. They say never bring sand to the beach, but in Subic, I recommend it. If you have 6 girls that you want to party with for days...then this is the place.


RM

Holy balls Radioman. That is some fine living there. I may not have been fair tagging Kokomo's on my link list as the uglier sister of Treasure Island. I just was not too impressed on a quick tour I took of it and really like the outdoor bar / pool / seaside area of Treasure Island which I hung out at often while staying at VIP Apartelle. (see full review in the Subic Bay forum section)

On my first visit I brought my own sand to start things and reported that in a trip report easily found here. Again, if things where to go to shit with one's AC takeout, quite easy to put them on a van while you stay. No guilt of abandonment.

I guess I was fortunate enough not to notice any trouble at the Olongapo ATM's. Rumor has it Dave (aka Mo) might get a second ATM to put on one of his properties on Baloy Beach so as to make two for the area and maybe this ups the bragging rights a notch so Tommo (Blue Rock Resort and heavy shares of a couple go-gos) will join this part of the game.

WetSpot remains the go to bar with the largest lineup, middle of the road pricing, great manager in Bret, 2 for 1 happy hours, and friendly ex-pats mixed in with the tourists. Nightrider's is my other favorite as it is comfy and the girls seem about the friendliest on my visits. But again, with the size of the scene, all bars can be easily visited on a couple of barhops or one long night. With but rare exception, I found every go-go to be laid back and pretty mellow. Only gripe really is the volume of the music at Club One most of the time and the manager of Blue Rock Floating bar (Ash) playing elevator music and crudely chastising staff in front of customers very often.

Up the thread it was mentioned my reported trike fare numbers seemed high. I think 30p does sound more like the regular rate up and down Nat'l Hwy. Regardless, the cost is negligible, I never had any troubles, and trike issues were not a common bar discussion like the sister venue of AC. I walked most of the time unless making a long trip late in the evening when my memory is a bit fuzzier.

(Message edited by keeper on October 08, 2009)

To each his own I'm glad you enjoyed your time RM, but I think Subic is a destination in it's own right. Yes the ATMs are far away but I actually think that's a positive hurdle that keeps the spolied AC riff raff away. I can imagine the conversations,

Know it all AC guy: "Subic sucks they don't even have an ATM there."

Newbie: "Well shit I'm not going, I'll just pay 3000 pesos for a showgirl dancer tonight."

I'd say withdraw a shitload from an ATM in AC or Manila before you go and don't worry. Most hotels have a safe, drinking is ridiculously cheap, there's no barfines over 1500 that I saw, lots of hotties and very friendly bar managers who threw me and my buddies free rounds just cuz we were 3 new faces in town. When you get below the 5000 peso mark go back to AC.

BTW, the Southern Cross shuttle was very fast clean and convenient. 2 hours total on the new highway, no more bumpy road journey. If you're staying in Baretto the bus actually goes beyond it, so let the driver know and you can get let out right at your hotel's front door.

(Message edited by BigPoppa on October 08, 2009)

Bigpoppa: Good advice, i will bring more cash next time I go there and will not worry about the ATM's. I still had a great time.

Keeper says: "I may not have been fair tagging Kokomo's on my link list as the uglier sister of Treasure Island. I just was not too impressed on a quick tour I took of it and really like the outdoor bar / pool / seaside area of Treasure Island which I hung out at often"

Kokomo's is right next door to Treasure Island and are co-owned. So while I rented the bungalows at Kokomo's, I hung out at the bar, restaurant and pool of TI next door, and charged everything to my room. You are right, Kokomo's is not that impressive in person, but you can't beat the location, and I needed those two bedroom bungalows because I was bring a shitload of chicas with me. Nice air con in my room too.

Interesting thing about filipinas. They sleep like a litter of puppies all tangled up. I had the two bedroom bungalow, with 6 chicas. They all slept on one bed in the other room, and made frequent one on one visits to me in my bedroom, then went back. When i woke up I saw them all tangled together. I guess it is another filipina thing. I had air con, and they all complained they were freezing, in my room. LOL.

My girls are already begging me to take them back there and promising me blow jobs in the van all the way there if I will take them. Hmmmmmm maybe another Radioman road trip is in the offing.

rm

Well I'm not usually one for bringing sand to the beach, but if I were in this situation, I'd make an exception.

You guys did a good job........damn it...

Subic Bay is on my ticket now for Nov 9th for a few days.

From Manila Swagman........sounds like I take the
Swag van to AC then another Van to Subic?

Hit this place over 14 years ago with an Ex Navy
Tour Guy from Ventura, CA......Don't suppose there
still is a 'By the Sea' hotel still there....?

Cebu

AsianBear and i plan to hit this area on the next trip out to AC. thank you for the detailed guide. god to know where to go and what one may find!

How did all of you guys manage to miss the cluster of girly bars about 5 miles north near subic city. That is where I pulled my runner. Also saw a very nasty stage show there with girl doing a San Miguel douche and spraying all over the place.

Now that sounds interesting....do you remember the name of the area/city? Are these girly bars on the same road/way to Subic City?

Lovingmarvin,

One of the links in the guide above listed four bars at CALAPANDAYAN. That is where I was. Here is excerpt from my unpublished trip report.

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THU-MAR-12-2009

Lots of sight seeing today. Was able to piggy back a solo snorkel adventure on another guys training dive for just 600 pesos. The so called reef on the bay side of Grand Island is nothing spectacular, but at least I can claim to have gone snorkeling in Philippines now.

That afternoon I ventured out on jeepney routes. Went up to Subic Town and into public market place where they do not see many foreigners. Walked south to the bar zone where I would return later that night. After that I caught another jeepney to Olangapo where I wandered the streets and public market. It was neat to see how most Philipinos live rather than the Clark Super Mall microcosm. After that I took a jeepney ride back to Barrio Barretto for a quick look at the bars before they really got going and walked back to Wild Orchid resort to clean up.

Evening adventure was jeepney ride to Players Club just south of Subic Town. Found a little spinner named Cee Cee that I thought would be a real delight. So after spending 600 pesos on lady drinks for her and her “sister“, I paid the 1500 peso bar fine that was supposed to be for all night and we took a trike ride back my room. Once inside, her attitude changed. She said I was her very first bar fine and she thought that we were just supposed to go to dinner and clubs. Then she gave me some crap about having to leave at 1 AM to go buy medicine for her mother whom was in the hospital. I threatened to take her right back to the bar, saying she would loose her bar fine and I would pick a different girl. That was enough to make her behave and get naked, but then she claimed that she was drunk and acted like a dead fish while I licked her pussy and fucked her. She acted as though she did not know what condoms or lube or Viagra were for. When I was half asleep, she quietly crawled out of bed and I surprised her by saying goodbye as she was closing the door behind her, then I got up to lock the door and noticed her ID laying on the desk. A few minutes later she knocked on the door, said she just went downstairs to order some food. Picked up her ID and left for good and I was more than happy to let her go.

I know that some of you guys will give me shit about not returning her to the bar, but it was 11:45 PM and about a 15 minute trike ride. I figured one nut was enough for this little bitch. It was a lesson learned to interview more carefully.

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I began to post her picture here, but after another look I was embarassed to admit that I fucked such a homely little thing. Guess I was captivated by her tiny body and fooled by darkness inside the bar.

(Message edited by Hot4ass2 on July 31, 2010)

I was in Subic for two nights earlier in the month and had a blast in the Barretto bars. I hired a driver to show me around one afternoon and we swung through Calapandayan at around 4:00 PM. All the bars were closed and the place looked a little rough around the edges (I understand the bars open at around 6:00).

Guys were telling me that Players is a good bar but the others are not particularly foreigner-friendly.