I trekked out on this day to see the scenery and take a tour of the overall area. The area by the beach seem to be for the European tourist set. There was some construction going on in the background of high-rise buildings...hotels I assume.

It was obvious to me the local government is trying to wean the area off of the mongering scene for more wholesome activities. If you have not been to Pattaya, then now is the time to go. The government could at any time hand down a decision closing down the bars and switching the scene to more of a Florida like atmosphere. Probably not likely immediately, but some time in the distant future I can see it happening.

I wondered into a random massage place. They are all over the place filled with random women. I just wanted a massage and did not accept any sexual favors at this place. It was an ok massage, not very firm, just ok.

I killed some time with random activities and ended up in a random beer bar around the hotel at 6pm. There was a 27 year old woman there who had a 26 inch waist and nice size zero frame. Almost go-go quality. I do not remember the name of the woman or the exact beer bar. There are hundreds of these small-time beer bars on every corner and very forgetable. Thai women seem to have these names that almost seem like code which are challenging to remember and I just could not grasp what she was telling me.

I paid 1000 baht for short-time and 300 baht for the barfine. It was a fairly intense short-time session. I have found the sessions here with the Thai ladies tend to be somewhat more intense then the sessions with the Filipino women. All of the Thai women here don't seem to mind me cumming in their mouths or long multiple sessions of high energy. I can remember quite a few times the Filipino women seeming to "run out of gas", complain about hurting down there or not willing to do certain things. The Thai women seem much less inhibited, more willing and more able. The Thai women also seem to be a lot cleaner then the Filipinos. The Thai women also seem to be generally more in-shape then their filipino counterparts. The Filipinos all seem to have a little pudge in the belly where as the Thai women's bellies are more flat.

When the session was done around 9-10pm, she indicated her hunger and the need for food. I basically said no. I have noticed all of the Thai women I have been with seem to insist on dinner or breakfast. I took the first woman I barfined to breakfast and dinner, but noticed how the charges added up quick. I think this is one of the reasons why some of the hombres were telling me it cost about 9 grand for a month. You can easily get caught up in spending money on things that are not really pertinent to the mongering journey.

In the Phils, the women don't care if you take them for a meal. However, the Thai women love to be taken for a meal and they seem to insist on it. Be aware that it won't matter if you pay for their meal or not. They will be back out on that very same night at the bar or go-go trying to get more fines and someone else to take them for that meal. In fact, the short-time beer bar girl I was with was back out at the bar as I went to Walking Street.

I wanted to get pictures of the beer bar girl and tried a different approach this time, but she was not having it. I was almost tempted to sit outside the bar with my 55-250mm lens trying to get pictures. I hate not getting at least one picture, because the memory of a great lay seems to fade without them.;)

I arrived on Walking Street at 11pm and went to the AngelWitch. I read quite a few good reviews about this popular go-go on here from the bar-owner Dave the Rave. I am going to have to call Dave out on this one because, for lack of a better word, the place sucked. The place seemed like a bar in downtown San Diego on football night with more guys then girls. There were a few shows with some naked ladies, but I came to barfine ladies and not see them on-stage. The ultimate insult was paying 150 baht for one beer FOR MYSELF...this was not a lady's drink. There were other go-gos that had drinks for 50-70 bahts and Dave was charging me double the rate.

The women at Dave's Angelwitch were comparable to other places, nothing special. The ultimate slap in the face was seeing an overweight white Australian woman sitting up in the front watching the show. You know, the kind of woman who seemed like she had been in the outback too long with the grizzled look.

I did not even finish the beer and got out of there quick. I was pissed because Dave made this place seem like it was the only place to go and that it was better then the rest. Oh not true, at least not for me and probably better suited for the grizzled up outback lady sitting in the front. I guess I have to give the middle-finger to Dave to leading me to this place.

After that, I went to another popular go-go that has been mentioned here which was Living Dolls. Another beer ordered and another high bill of 135 bahts. The women were, again, on-par with other places and none of them seemed to be having any fun. No one was smiling like at Secrets or the other places I visited. I got a bad vibe and headed out.

There was a small go-go that was just opening up called Utopia. They had a big sign saying 55 baht for a draft. The women in this place were as good, if not better, then Living Dolls or Angelwitch.

I didn't take too much time to decide on a pick as it was getting late. I did not want to spend quality session time out at the bars. When I was walking back with this woman, as with all the Thai women I have been with here, pointed me to restaurants and other bars. I told her that we were not going to stop anywhere but my hotel room. I wasnt going to add another 300-500 baht to the expense of the night.

This one was shy at first because she was fairly new to the scene. However, that shyness wore off quick once in the room. It was another fairly intense multiple length session.

A note about condoms. The Thai women insist on them right from the start. You probably will not get away without one like you can in Angeles.

I finally found the Google online translator which seemed to work somewhat for conversation. However, I could not get the woman to pose for nude shots despite a different line of attack this night out. The pictures you see were as a result of different repeated tries and negotiations.

Maybe I might be coming down on Dave in this post too much, but the prior posts I read of his made the Angelwitch seem like the place to be...the place to be for a bunch of old guys, super-priced San Miguels and white lesbian Outback-style women sitting around watching some nude women that is. I really think he made more of a big deal then this place actually is.

You can probably find a better time at the smaller, lesser known go-gos and at cheaper prices. Frankly, I am going to stay away from the more well known pumped message board go-gos you see posted up here. I'll go for the other names.

This one cost me 600 baht for the barfine and 2000 long-time. When compared with other establishments, these rates seemed fair to me.

This one had a 24 inch waist and size zero body. 25 years old.

Photos: Shy - Utopia 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27

I wanted to add one more thing. If you go to Walking Street, do not go very early, but do not get there late. Get there just as the bars and go-gos are opening their doors.

1-2 hours after the bars/go-gos open their doors, the quality women will be gone and the ones left will be left for a reason.

When you find your girl, take her away from the Walking Street scene and right back to the hotel. The more time spent out and about, the more money that will be spent and the less time in bed. Lets face it, you come to this "Adult Sex Travel" website for action back in the hotel room and not to drink down a few beers with some chicks.

I say take them right out of there and get back to the room.

Very beautiful but my ladyboy alarm keeps going off. Thanks for the report...done well so far.

Thanks for posting the detailed and timely reports.

As for Dave the Rave and Angelwitch, what did you expect? Owners and managers of bars are almost always going to overpimp what they are selling on the internet message boards. I have found it's best to use a heavy filter on what these posters say. The best reports are those of pure consumers.

Well, it sure looks like that $2K budget is already in trouble. Two days is you have almost 7K baht on just barfines and tips?

I agree with you about Thai girls, being very adept at making baht fly out of your wallet after you have barfined them and before you get to the actual fucking.

But when they want a meal, they are usually more happy with a street stall meal than a restaurant. They are smart because the food is usually better along with being cheaper. However, I found that Pattaya street food is rather meh and expensive compared to Bangkok street food. One thing I also will do sometimes in a beer bar, is go with a girl to a fruit cart and drop 100 baht on a variety of fruit. Then make a fruit plate in the bar. You will get a lot more attention and appreciation than a LD usually.

I like you second pic here, height in LOS always raises LB flags. Seems like you are clicking with the Thai girls better than the PI girls sexually. Unfortuantely, it's the opposite for me, I never cease to have issues and conflicts with the girls.

Also, I am surprised that Beer Bar ST takes a 1K tip? I guess it's welcome to high season?

The camera work makes her look bigger then she is. I intentionally tried to fill the entire frame. She is 5 feet tall and probably less then 100 lbs. Look at objects in the background and the 19 inch screen looks massive. Look at the beer bottle sitting on the dresser. The beer bottle is longer then her forearm.

In the picture of her and the motorcycle in the background, the motorcycle is about 4 feet high and she is about 1 feet taller then the cycle.

So she is in fact smaller then some of the filipino girls you are currently posting now. Some of the chicks you are posting now certainly look more manly then this chick.

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She doesnt look manly at all...that's the point. She just looked tall in the photo and just had that look. I have been to Thailand 26 times and speak fluent Thai so I do have experience in identifying ladyboys. I will take your word for it that she is a girl.

Going rate for short time for a beer bar girl is 700 Baht tip. That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions in both directions. Thai girls are much more condom concious than P.I. If it's important to do BBFS it should be negotiated ahead of paying the barfine or it becomes unlikely.

The little gogos on Walking Street are better deals then big ones on Walking Street as a rule. I recommend the small gogos on Soi Diamond, by Supergirl and Superbaby (Paris, The Sea, Naughty Girls) I've also done well at Sisterz and Babydolls. In these places long and short time tips can be negotiated better, 1k to 1.3 ST is possible or 1.7 to 2k long time.

I think you are now seeing that for two girls a day 3k to 4k including bar is easy to spend.

Also it's easy to spend money on food and drink as you see. If you stay for a month you get bored at a point with going out at night and having one drink in one, two or three places till you find the barfine and going to the cheap hotel you picked to session till sleep.

Sometimes pool or games with girls or buddies at beer bars or a Walking Street gogo tour with more drinks for you, buddies and or your barfine is fun and breaks boredom. Also if they have a movie you like try taking your girl. It's cheap and you can fool around during the movie. The girls love it and often kick up performance in the room later for it.

During the day if you rent a motorbike there are numerous good places to ride to, which also breaks boredom.

BTW you haven't noted going to Soi Six yet. This is an experience that has to be tried. Three quarters of the places on Soi Six from Second to Beach Road are ST room beer bars and for one drink and one LD you can spend a half hour fondeling and playing on a sofa in any beer bar to decide if you want a cheap short time. BTW Soi Six is open One PM to One AM.

She looks very cute to me and I don't think she's a ladyboy at all, but I'm no expert, epi is the guy to consult.

The beauty of spending a few weeks in Pattaya is
absolute inconsistency. You will find a stunner in a goggo, pay 1000B barfine and 2000b short time, then a day later find the same quality girl in a beer bar, pay a 300 B barfine and 1000B long time. Then next day pick up a FL on Beach Rd for 500B who will knock your socks off.

Live and learn. As far as your comments on communication and girls speaking English, remember where you are and the fact that many BG's are not highly educated ( read as formal school, not street smarts which most can put us all to shame )

Take some initiative, a few words of Thai will get you a long way. Ask the girls to teach you instead of playing connect four or dice games.

My opinion on cheap hotels, you get what you pay for. The difference between a 500B room with paper thin walls and a 1300B room can be a world of difference. And its still only $40 a night, see what you get for that anywhere in the USA.

I found the Thai ladys seem to do a set routine for ST. French kiss, smoke, then boom boom.

sweet looking girl!

I second the movie notion mentioned by Gurlock. I used to do that in Venezuela very often and it is a cheap way to fill time without conversation and earn bonus points while recovering for another round. Curious if the movies are English with Thai subtitles for the Hollywood releases, not that I would not mind seeing a straight Thai movie with good company.

Good to see your running report getting some conversations going Port.

Dave the Rave is the manager of the Anglewitch in BKK. He is not really directly associated with the one on Pattaya unless things have changed since the last time that I was there.


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Sorry I missed you when I was there, Port!

I had the opposite experience at Angel Witch -- I thought they had a number of great looking girls, and I actually enjoyed the little show they did in between the "line-ups" of all the girls.

I'm trying to figure out how to do a trip report, but my trip was fairly uneventful -- classic newbie mistake of getting locked into a Thai "girlfriend" my first night. I still had a great time, she showed me some nice areas around Pattaya, took me to some great Thai restaurants and banged the shit out me, so I shouldn't complain. Still, lessons were learned (I GROSSLY overpaid!) and my next trip will focus on more girls, more bars, less money and more fun!

Nice report, I find it pretty much spot on. I've tried hard to bareback but so far no luck, even have my aids test result and didn't make a difference.

These girls seem very aware that aids is big in thailand.

Give a try to the all new living dolls, 500 BF and the 1st go-go girl I pulled was from here, 2000 LT. Never left my side for 2 days. Major GFE. A stunning showgirl here offered 2500B LT, my mouth hit the floor considering the prices being thrown around eslewhere

I agree, the girls have super clean pussies, and are superstars in bed. Aren't afriad to leave the light on and show their pussies.

So much for your $2000 budget for 1 month, I'm going through $200 a day but have to slow down.

The free lancer scene is amazing and much cheaper and you don't sacrifice quality.