On my yearly Asia trip - this time exploring AC and returning to a familiar place, Pattaya, on Sunday for a week.

Unlike last year when I took my trip to Thailand and Indo, I decided to travel directly from Brazil to Thailand without my customary stay for a few days in the US. Holy shit what a fucking trip - about 36 hours. GIG - GRU - DFW - NRT - BKK on AA. Philippine Air to Manilla. Even being upgraded to Business from GIG to NRT using SWU (It is not possible to use them on non AA metal), it was one long miserable trip. Mileage wise about 30K roundtrip, which on the good side helps me get to my elite status again and also effectively gives me one free International ticket (30K X 2 double elite miles = 60K)

My first night stayed in BKK. Arrived around 12:30 to my hotel. My plan was to get a quickie BJ at a BJ bar and then turn in to get some sleep before my early flight to the Philippines. Unfortunately that did not work out that way and by the time I made it to the BJ bar it was closed. Went to a bar I have been to a few times on past trips and luckily ran into a great girl I seasoned with the year before. A little tiny spinner - We banged for awhile, then finally managed to get a couple of hours of sleep, followed by another session in the morning. Great start!!!

Off to the Philippines....

Got a great hotel tip from Bwana and ended up staying at the Pacific Breeze. Great location, close to everything, and a very nice staff. The girls in the bar and restaurant are great and the room comfortable.

This being a Cherry trip to AC, the concept of paying a bar fine that actually also includes the girl was great.

On my first night I got sucked into a club by one very convincing waitress.... this is where I ran into my first DLD. A beautiful young Cherry girl sat with me, huggy-kissy for a couple of hours and managed to get two out of me at a cost of 600p. In the end I did enjoy this time with her, but certainly learned my lesson and will pay pay more attention to the DLD.

After that I bar hopped for a couple more hours and around 5:00am bar fined the smallest and skinniest girl I have been with for 1300p. I grabbed her from the stage after being assaulted by an uglier chick I wanted to get rid off. This young hottie was a little shy, and seemed not to have too much experience. Did not speak much English either. But off to the room we went... she did indeed not have much experience which quickly showed during our session, but she got wet and was willing....and I was absolutely feeling dead from my journey.. so her lack of skill in the bed did not really matter much at that point. We banged for a little while before I fell into a comatose sleep....I woke-up around 1:00pm for a quickie with her before we both continued to sleep until 7:00pm. Again, another session. By that time she had to get ready to go to work and I was happy and rested.

Sessioned with another girl later that night - great in the sack - and once again we both slept until about 5pm.

On my third day I ended up picking up the best one yet - a beautiful young waitress. She was happy, smiley, playful, just drop dead gorgeous. She barely spoke English and had just arrived from Cebu about a week ago. Her sister was also working there and was a Cherry girl that spoke no English.

For a few nights we went out, drank, danced, and came back to the hotel around 6:00am.... Awesome sex and just lots of fun. On the second night after she got somewhat hammered, we both ended up in a club around 5:00am....She started sitting and grinding on my lap, then slowly unzipped my shorts and lifted up her long dress slightly (she was not wearing panties) and slipped me inside of her. Around us booths filled with people, waitresses, and the dancers on stage. She grinded on me for awhile and that was quite enjoyable.

I finally wanted to change girls and BF someone else, so I told her on the fourth night that I would not bar fine again. After a little drama, she made me promise her that I would come to the bar a little later in the evening to say "Hi" and I agreed.

Later that evening when I returned to the bar she did something quite memorable for me - When she saw me she literally jumped up and down, covered her mouth and started to cry. When we sat down, she grabbed me and had a couple of tears in her eye. Her friend told me that she did not think I was going to come back and see her again.

Anyway, so far AC has been awesome. The sheer number of girls and how incredibly affectionate they are is great. Even so I have only done 3 so far, none have disappointed (even the inexperienced one from my initial night which was a good match for my physical condition at the time). All have given me what I wanted in sack, without any negotiations or problems.

Price wise my bar fines have been 1300p each time, which is a mind blowing $28USD for a night...not including the tip, of course.

But for me a week in AC is more then enough. While the girls are great, AC is grim and basically a shithole. Also not much too do during the day.

Tomorrow I leaving to Pattaya....but finding the sessions I have had so far will be more difficult there. On the flipside, Pattaya is just more fun plus I like the water sports, beach, etc.

I certainly will be back. Next time, however, there are a few things I will do differently - I will try to fly BKK to Clark on Cebu Pacific instead, versus going to Manilla. Also, I booked into the Jacuzzi room...and not once used the Jacuzzi. So next time I will reserve a simpler room. Plus stay a little less time, I think 5 days is more then enough.

Too bad you didn't make use of the jacuzzi. I had some wild, messy sessions in it. Water and bubbles everywhere!

I agree, five days is more than enough. Four or five nights is fine, then off to BKK or Phuket for me.

I am fresh off a Pattaya trip and am struggling to justify a stop over in AC on a return trip later in the year. (an ex-pat buddy would likely put me over the edge) Your report thus far does pop the highlights of what it is and I thank you for that. I was a little sentimental for the raw unfiltered Pinay type affection that at times I wanted for in Pattaya.

Bwana might have it right on the four or five night stop over to AC. Beyond that, I fully agree the shit-holeness does become a bit overwhelming. Subic Bay is more tempered with an environmental improvement and far less urchin activity, but the trade-off is less selection and some limits on daytime mongering.

I stayed in a jacuzzi room @ PB and busted my ass on the tiled floor after getting out. Those floors are "slippery-er" than snot. Since then I keep away from jacuzzis rooms a@ PB.

Snooky, you're right about those floors. I get the maid to give me 4 extra towels every day and that helps. You have to surround the tub with about 6 towels...

Been in Pattaya a few days...while I have had good sessions each day, plus Lólita's is a great place to get my daily BJ, it is probably best to go to Pattaya first and then AC last. After all the fantastic attention, affection, etc, I got in AC, Pattaya now seems more like a let down.

On the flipside, Pattaya is just so much more fun and much nicer place to stay outside the mongering. Rented a scooter, going to the beach, island, Walking Street, Soi 6, and the million bars - AC just does not stack up to AC....but from a girl perspective, aye, AC wins hands down!!!

While you get affectionate girls in Pattaya, it does not seem to be as consistent as in AC.

LM, that's about it, Pattaya wins hands down for food, structure, diversity of things to do, great places to ride on the scooter, massage, quality of everything except cheap affection and attitude of bar girls. AC has a certain attitde of bargirls that at he top of it's game is exceptional. BTW, you can rent a scooter in AC and take it out through the Clark lands and have some good rides. Lots of the bar girls will love to go on the back and hang with you during the day if you want to go riding. Also if spending a little extra dough is OK you can have your bargirl invite friends for a pool party at the Pacific Breeze Pool to waste away an afternoon. Pacific Breeze has a only little unreasonable price for a liter bottle of Jose Cuervo served with shot glasses, lime and salt at the pool (about $25.00). Several of the right girls, lunch, drinks and a bottle or two of Jose at the pool winding down with a session with one or two of the best of the girls can be a great way to use up an afternoon. Also a perimeter bar with drinking and sleazy girl action can be a good afternoon, but it's a little too much like how you spend he nights.

As you probably noticed, I posted very little about Pattaya. No sense in doing so....too much posted already...All I know is that I will plan a trip back to AC and that I am done with Thailand.

Not sure I can go back to the service provided in BKK or Pattaya versus AC. I think ongoing I will split my time between AC and Jakarta.

I am back in Rio, but have great memories about AC. The girls there were just fantastic. A key difference I noticed about the girls in AC in BKK/Pattaya was age - while in AC I generally ran into girls in the 18-24 age range, in Thailand it was more like 29-38 years old. While there was pressure to buy LD in AC, it was nowhere as high as in Thailand - Fucking 40 year olds in Pattaya begging me for drinks is just not my idea of fun.

The next time around I will try to tour the Philippines a little more...

While Pattaya is much more fun from a non-mongering perspective (BKK just completely sucks, in my opinion), AC's quality in girls makes up for it.... I'll just keep my trips to a week or less.

(Message edited by lovingmarvin on March 30, 2010)

Pattaya has long been on my wishlist as a place to visit for the beach, watersports etc... until I read this. Thanks for the heads up.

I too found the women of A/C to be world class performers at incredibly low prices. Throw in the convenience of speaking english, and the beach at Subic Bay and A/C sounds like a winner.

Anyone else think A/C is far superior to Pattaya?

DG-

The beach at Pattaya is horrible. If it's watersports you want (of the conventional variety, you fucking pervert), try Phuket. Better beaches, cleaner water, great diving nearby, etc.

In performance terms, I concur with Lovingmarvin. I've had much better experiences in AC than Pattaya (or elsewhere in LOS). The Thai girls are prettier, in my estimation, but far more mercenary and a bit more mechanical. Paint-by-numbers sex. Obviously there are individual exceptions, but on average the performance of the AC girls exceeded that of the LOS girls by a statistically significant (p. > .01) margin.

I also found, at least in my observations, it was much less LOS now in Thailand :-) I think overall the people in Pattaya - especially - are for the most part rude and not all that friendly.

Definitely agree with B-d on Pattaya as a beach location. After you have been to Brazil, the beaches of Pattaya are quite the disappointment, unless you want to rent a jet ski from some shady Thai guy also trying to sell you fake weed. Better to find an out of the way place if enjoying the beach is your reason for travel to Thailand.

What I don’t get in this and other reports how people will say there are no young woman in Pattaya and they spent most of their time with girls in their late 20’s or even well beyond. In my trips I have been with almost exclusively girls 25 or younger and the vast majority under 23 with many at the 20- age. Not saying I do not meet older ones, and I am quick to say I am not buying you a drink so maybe they leave me alone. I will say, thinking back to my first Thailand trip in BKK it took until I met up with Epi and Hunterman until I got more into the swing of things and started to really enjoy the mongering. I won’t argue that takes more work than other locations to find the great performers and you will end up with some quite mechanical sessions here and there, but I find Pattaya to be a hoot and just love the sheer decadence of the place and that no matter which way you turn there is another girl. Hopefully, soon I will get to AC to have a point of reference for the comparison.

Please do not get me wrong, yes there are indeed plenty of young girls, but plenty of older ones also. In AC that mix does not seem to exist - I just did not get hassled for drinks by women in their late 30's in AC - but all the places with drink specials in Pattaya seemed to have lots of older women that just hounded you to death to buy Lady Drinks.

It seems that in Pattaya the young pretty ones get spoiled to death by foreigners, while in AC they still seem a little more simple...

Pattaya is hands down more fun then AC - but from a pure mongering and girl perspective, AC gets my vote. So if I have to travel a gizzilon miles to get to Asia (which I do, from Brazil), I prefer awesome service from girls over a fun beach place like Pattaya. I have plenty of beaches in Rio....

Overall the girls just seem less spoiled in AC versus Pattaya. However, if you are looking for fun outside mongering, then Pattaya takes the lead. AC is a shithole....nothing nice about it, but the girls!

If you go into the typical stripclub in Pattaya, you will see girls of all ages - young and "older". Plenty of girls in their late 20's, early 30's, that still look great, but in AC the range is limited to 18-24...after that they become waitresses and do not stay dancing until they are ready to retire.

Plus the line-up of young girls in the typical club outnumbers that of any Pattaya bar 10 to 1, maybe even more in some of the high-end places.

In AC no bullshit about pricing - the barfine includes the girl, no negotiating with the girls....I greatly prefer this. The tip is up to me, not negotiated upfront.

Pricing - hands down, AC is much cheaper then BKK or Pattaya.

LM, I completely agree with your comparison. And thanks for the report. I too love the decadence in Pattaya, especially Soi 6. But the beaches and diving (except muff diving) in Pattaya suck. Go elsewhere in Thailand for that.

Knockkneedman, you HAVE to get to AC. You'll LOVE the girls there (and they'll love you back more than the Thai girls ever will). But LM's right about AC being a shithole. You just have to find the right girls to keep you from ever having to go outside.

One other feature of AC I really like: it's much easier to get duplas, triplas, and moreplas than Thailand. I found it easy to get together groups of girls who had no qualms about working together (on me). The only exception was when I tried to get my regular gf to join me and the new girl I'd spent the last three nights with and didn't want to leave. Awkward doesn't begin to describe it.... Otherwise, if she helped me pick the girls, no problem. And I've found enough girls like that to keep me very, very happy.

Duplas and triplas can be hard to arrange in LOS. They are easy to arrange in Rio and AC, which tells you something about both places, but in AC (unlike Rio) they are affordable. I pulled two girls from Lollipop for a combined barfine of 2100 pisos (during their "Perimeter Prices" Tuesday special), or under $50...for all night!