Whats up Brothers I wanted to check in with some of you about your opinions about Korean Air is it a good Airline for travel to SEA area or should I just stick with EVA air any feed back would be great thanks

I used Korean 10 years ago. Never had an accident. But when I read about their old 80ies safety record, I got scared! (one full jumbo shot down in Russian air space, another flown into a mountain, etc).

But then, they said at that time that they did a complete safety overhaul

They were convenient, friendly, had good food and I got excellent prices for one year tickets at Steward Travel in Koreatown in Los Angeles.

sorry for giving you outdated info. Who is more up to date?

When you fly on Third World Airlines you ALWAYS take a chance, is the fare difference really worth it? You are assuming the same safety and inspection standards routinely used/applied to U.S. carriers is used worldly (WRONG) You could add up ALL the U.S. carriers accidents and it wouldn't come close to some of the individual foreign carriers record........fly safe!

Hate to break it to ya Copper, but South Korea is far from a third world country. They are a first world country and left under the "developing nation" category a long time ago. I have flown Korean Airlines once and thought they were about the same level as Japan Airline and the leg room on the plane is limited. The only real downside is having to deal with rude Koreans and listening to them snore, burp and fart the whole flight as they have dranken themselves to a stupor.

You are correct about Korea not being a 3rd world country. However,I made a general statement as to the comparisons of other carriers in general as compared to the U.S. carriers. There are a few exceptions (Japan Airlines is one of them) The common notion is to compare everything by our own standards. Most of these foreign accidents are not even a result of mechanical failures but worse yet (and I really hate to go here having flown for the airlines 30 years)pilot/crew error. Again, this is a direct result of training standards, etc which the foreign carriers have only recently began adopting new techniques and norms. The U.S. safetly record significantly improved since 1987 with Crew Coordination Concept Trng (CCC) inception. As these methods are applied to other nations carriers they too will begin to enjoy exscellent records, it just takes time.

If I had a choice, I fly EVA, primarily b/c of their deluxe class (espc. their 777). EVA food still sucks though.

I've flown, and still fly, Korean air numerous times, even during the 80s when they had all those problems. After all these incidents, Korean got the hell sued out of them and changed their name, color schema and operation model. Newer planes now, bigger airline, better pilot training (i.e. it is no longer considered rude for the co-pilot to inform the pilot that the plane is short of the runway), and European consultants for their maintenance and upkeep.

As I know it, any airline that flies into the U.S. must meet the same high standards as U.S. carriers. You gotta be more wary of airlines that do not, or have not qualified to fly into the U.S. (like some indonesian discounters).

Korean has more routes to Asia than EVA as it is a bigger and older airline. Inchon airport is new, big and a nice hub airport IMO, I prefer it to Taipei airport which is EVA's hub. Often times Korean Air has better rates, and more discounts. Best part is Korean Air stewardesses are (IMO) cuter, very strict requirements on height, weight and compulsory beauty school. They now have uniforms made by some European designer. Korean is part of the Skyteam Alliance, so you can use miles and earn more miles. EVA is partnered with Continental and it's next to impossible to use miles to get EVA tickets.

Merlin, just an aside to what you,ve stated. FLT crews meeting the same standards...you should sit in the cockpit and listen to all the screw-ups the foreign crews make. Hell, one day one of the carriers was vectored all over the friggin place because he couldn't find LAX , pissed everyone off... Remember, they are not FAA certified---------big difference. However, Eva is one of the better foreign carriers. BTY, many U.S. pilots retire and go fly for these overseas carriers, which certainly helps bring new ideas to the flight departments.

Flight attendants, formerly know as stewardesses.
Bet a lot of you didn't know that at one time, certainly within the past 10 yrs, a FA for Singapore Airlines HAD to be a virgin! Don't even ask me how they tested for that..but it actually was a requirement. Don't know if it's still req'd or not. Just interesting... I do know that nowdays (AND IT SHOWS!) YOU CANNOT discriminate on weight, etc. Pretty bad when some of the female co-pilots look better than the flt attendants. Never thought I'd want to fuck another pilot! lol

EVA flight attendants are certainly not the hottest in Asia but WAY better than the old hags on US carriers. The Thai ones are pretty nice. They posted their employment requirements for the Thai flight attendants they have recently hired. Clearly the Asian airlines are light years ahead of the US carriers in their personnel policies.

From http://www.evaair.com/html/b2c/english/global_tools/carop/EMPLOYMENT.html

1. A permanent resident of Thailand
2. University/college graduate who is available to start work on Jul. 03. 2006
3. Female, single and under 25 years of age
4. At least 160cm in height, weight in proportion to height
5. Fluency in written and spoken English and Thai languages
(Knowledge of Mandarin or Taiwanese will be advantage)
6. TOEFL score above 133 or TOEIC score above 550
7. Pleasant personality and appearance
8. In good general health with good eyesight

Please download EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION FORM and send your employment application form with two recent full-length color photos (3 x 5 inches) to the following address not later than Apr. 16, 2006.


Once at LAX an entire Korean Air flight crew came through security as I was waiting. For some strange reason the TSA dyke pulled aside all of the flight attendants for secondary inspection. The TSA dyke had them all in a little roped off holding pen and they were all barefoot because had to take their shoes off. Then the TSA dyke "wanded" them one by one. Strangely it was somehow the most erotic thing I ever saw in an airport.

IAS: You are a sick man....lol This obviously explains your pad pic!

It's been a long time now since I've flown any of the Asian carriers but I always thought Asiana was the best of the bunch. They were still new back in 95-97 when I was flying them but good looking flight attendents and great food. I seem to remember that they had a manditory retirement age of 30 for their flight attendents.

IAS; I just looked at your pad pic. I know those flights to asia are long and boring but....aw fuck it, could'nt you have gotten a lower camera angle?

RG.

I flew Korean Air about a year ago and found it to be ok. It was a 14 hour flight from JFK to Incheon and had the individual monitors with all the games, TV shows, and movies. This helped. You will be served Korean like meals, which may not be to your taste. I thought the Kimchi was toned down for people who never had it.

Blazers yeah the Koreans are more "down to earth" then Westerners, but that makes it easy for me to drink myself to sleep and I had no idea how much I was burping and farting in my sleep.

But no worries on safety. The 80s is ancient history. US airlines go down as frequently as any other nation, but it's still more rare than car crashes as pilots and air traffic controllers have to prove themselves much more thoroughly than the average driver on the road.