I was wondering what is the best source for American and world news, currently I get CNN, NBC, BBC, Sky, Al Jazeera as well as a number of local , European and Russian channels that I don’t think are big in the states. I often see post disputing the factual correctness of some news sources as well as their motives and bias.

The reason I am asking is that I have just started getting Fox News which I have begun to enjoy immensely although I have heard claims that it is Der Sturmer of the American airways. Admittedly I have only had it for a few days and although there seems to be a Republican bias I like its reporting on the Middle East and its Patriotism, it is unashamedly pro American on steroids which I kind of like. It upbeat and seems to expounds those can-do American values that I love about the States. Its also seems pro Second Amendment which doesn’t hurt.

So where do you get your news?

NPR

excuse me, I have to refill my latte

The best source for world news is not a TV channel, and it never will be. IMO, one of the best sources is the Economist magazine.

http://www.economist.com/

CNN still tends to play it straight up. MSNBC will give you a slight to moderate Democratic slant a lot of the time. Fox will give you a batshit crazy ultraconservative slant 100% of the time.

I assume you get CNN International, it's good.

I'm with Murasaki. Despite 24 hour news coverage, not one of the cable news channels is worth a warm bucket of spit. Issues of bias aside, their coverage of any and all issues is shallow.

I don't share the Economist's conservative slant, but I read it religiously because the coverage almost always identifies the key issues and treats them with some depth and intelligence.

I get my news from the Warlock directly via twitter.

Hollywood Reporter claims, quoting Hillary Clinton, that Al-Jazeera English is actually doing a good job of just "objectively reporting" news. Something all the US cable networks seem to have gotten away from.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-american-cable-systems-wont-168953

news.google.com - US Edition

I read/watch several and try to figure things out as best I can. There's no such thing as an unbiased source.

If I had to pick one, I'd also go with the Economist.

Thanks for all the advice. I do read the Economist, but it is not really on the pulse of the American masses I also like checking Gallup.Com which seems to give a good statistical overview . I particularly like their State of the State section. I look at Fox as talking to and for the conservative republican base that seems to be growing.

Cat, I do get CNN international but I find its editorial content to be weak and its investigative reporting almost non-existents it also cannot seem to decide if it is an international news broadcaster or an American one. It’s also overtly pro Arab which is not surprising considering its share holders. Strangely Al-Jazeera English’s coverage of current events in Egypt, Syria and the rest has been ahead of the curve.

Now for the important question which one has the hottest Female reporters? Here I have to go with Fox....

I would suggest the following as best news sources:

Radio Moscow,
Croatian Radio, and of course
Al Jazeer (spelling?)

Hope you can trust someone to deliver honest news.

Of course, I forgot the NY Times.

MM

There is no source of news that is complete and without bias. It is important to get news from a number of sources and weight their respective biases against each other, try to understand and form your own opinion. It is even important to know the crazy propaganda being spewed by illegitimate news agencies because even is it's not true, if allot of people believe it is true, it is important to know what the other guys thought process is.

I asked a similar question a while back. A friend of mine suggested www.aldaily.com. There's a wealth of news sources there.

Fox and "... being there seems to be a Republican bias"...nahhhhh :-) They are completely unbiased, just like their slogan "Fox News fair and balanced". Yeah right....As Cat already mentioned "batshit crazy ultraconservative slant 100% of the time"

They have an exclusive agreement with Sarah Palin - that says alot in itself!

Fox News = Tea Party TV network. Not exactly the source for "can-do American values", more like lets criticize the Democrats for EVERYTHING, and ever more increasingly the Republicans in favor of the Tea Party. After trying to watch Fox news I can see where all the nut case super extreme Tea Partier's are being born. It seems almost impossible not start developing some sense of hate for everything after watching this BS.

I like CNN International myself.

espn.com

Hottest babe in the news biz is Maryam Nemazee from Bloomberg. http://www.bloomberg.com/personalities/maryam_nemazee/

The Onion is by far the best news available.

http://www.theonion.com/

By far the New York Times delivers the most comprehensive view of US and world news of an American organization, but you have to be willing to take the effort to read the news and not just watch it broadcast. Therefore no sexy babes with the news. On the other hand little slant and lots of news. I bought a Nook back at Thanksgiving and subscribe to the print addition of the NY Times. It takes about an hour to read through the Headline, US and International news on any given day, but it's thorough and mostly unbiased. Lots of days that's more work than I have time for, but on the other hand on the days that I can make time I feel that I walk around being the most informed guy in any room I enter.

Fox news is largely insane, MSNBC is slanted to the left CNN a little more centered but does love Arab causes. All of them love editorial more then news. I figure there is little need for editorial, if I get the news I can formulate my own opinions without someone doing it for me. Cable Television news has reached the point where they don't bother to separate the editorial from the news and hope that most viewers can't tell the difference.

I'll take my news clean and my porn dirty, and keep the two separate.

Majormajor, Al-Jazeera English’s coverage isn’t bad as long as you keep in mind where its coming from, which I guess is true of most broadcasters. As long as it doesn’t have a vested interest its programming is worth watching. It also has access to souses in the middle east that no one else has.
Stayawayjoe, thanks for the heads up I have added www.aldaily.com to my favorites.
Klun Mor, I saw the onion film a few years back and never knew it was based on real site, or did it work the other way around? I loved the songs from the movie and have never been able to find them anywhere! So if you have any ideas...

Bluelight, Yes, she is hot. Is it time for another trip to visit the twins yet?

Isawal, If you are thinking about crossing the pond I'll show up. Otherwise I think I'll wait until August to go to Cartagena and hit Memphis in May for the BBQ.

I find the BBC the best for on-air programming. YMMV.

Bluelight thanks to some work related stuff travelling is out until the end of May but August in Colombia that could be an idea I will PM you.

DM, Come on the BBC? I don't even trust their weather reports.

Fox news has the hottest chicks.

FOX NEWS is definitely the place to go if you are a dumb fucking republican that has a deep seeded need to hear lies that reinforce your predjudices.

Hot4ass2, I am not a Republican or a Democrat, hell I am not even an American but why is it, on this site at leased that Republicans debate wile you are abusive? Seriously Gcl is commenting about the hotties that are on fox not the state of the nation and you have to make a comment like that, come on dude, that’s just plain rude.

I do not watch any TV news at all. Now it is the internet and only the internet. Prior to that, I read magazines such as Time and Newsweek. The only thing that comes close is that occasionally I watch 60 Minutes on my SlingBox but that is really not for news. I like the profiles they do on people.

Isawal,

Well for that matter, I don't trust any weather report and take with a grain of salt any type of commentary passed off as news. Perhaps, I've just grown fond of the couple of female English voices over the air.

Apparently hot2ass is intellectually shut down. His only rebuttal to the hotness of the Fox news women is to call viewers names.

Come on, we all know you're just looking at their feet.

He is also disrespecting the Fox ho's.

But can you MSNBC guys even maintain an erection while Rachel Madow is on? I mean even the thought of her getting her carpet munched is a turnoff and normally I am a big fan of lesbians.

Fox definitely needs to get more hot Asian chicks though. They hired the daughter of a Colombian hooker, Julie Banderas, for the South American crowd. What about for us guys in the SEA crowd?

Actually, not only does Rachel Maddow give me a serious headache, but so too do most of the loudmouthed MSNBC guys these days. Morning Joe and Mika are okay, but only realistically available on the West Coast via itunes (since, otherwise one has to be up around 3 am to see them).

Although perhaps pushing the years a bit, I would rather do Mika than most of the Fox crowd, even forgetting about most of the Fox hostesses' bitchiness on the air.

"But can you MSNBC guys even maintain an erection while Rachel Madow is on?"

I think that guy who was interested in Trannies might be able to.

Now this is what I am talking about:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/04/mika-brzezinski-loses-it-_n_844499.html
Ya just don't see stuff this good on Fox.

I really like RT News a lot and they certainly have some female talent. They have an excellent website with streaming video.

Sorry Isawal,

You are fortunate to be citizen of another country. America is in serious decline and I live in a state that the republicans have completely fucked up, so I have plenty of reason to despise those assholes for what they are doing to the rest of my nation now.

Perhaps the FOX NEWS babes look hot if you turn off the volume and do not listen to the crap coming out of their mouths, but my PS/3 can play blu-ray disks of hot naked chicks fucking like rabbits and that is much more entertaining.

I agree that Maddow is just about the LEAST sexy news personality out there. I cannot watch her either. However, lets not forget that FOX has brought us Greta Van Sustrand (with a face lift) and Anne Coulter (with an adams apple) and Sarah Palin (without a clue).

BTW: What ever became of that Maria Barteloma babe on CNBC?

Bartiromo is still busy apologizing and cheerleading for Wall Street. She even sometimes cries when thinking about how hard the crisis has been on her poor zillionaire Wall Street friends:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295391-1

The dolts on CNBC and Fox Business seem to have a very, very selective memory. As in, they remember the 90s and the 2003-2007 time very well. They seem to have no memory of the 2001-2002 tech stock meltdown nor the 2008-mid 2009 50% stock crash. Funny how Republicans are about those things.

Well Fox news it not know for hiring people with brains......now big tits are another story.
http://www.break.com/index/shock-top-app-prank-on-fox-news-2037882

"You are fortunate to be citizen of another country."

Well, I'm certainly not a cheerleader for the U.S. BUT I think this goes under the category of be careful what you wish for. There are numerous other countries that might appear attractive to Americans, particularly as mongering spots--Brazil, Thailand, and so forth--but in my experience most of these have problems that dwarf those in the U.S. It is true there may be other countries that on balance might be considered "better", e.g., some of the Scandanavian countries, as well as some of the Scandanavian countries , but don't overdo the glorification of other countries relative to the U.S. The underlying problem is not the U.S., it is people and governments generally, and you don't have to travel far to find others who are bigoted, nationalistic, corrupt, or you name it.

Agree...I think it is easy to get jaded if you are a resident of the US and then travel to monger. Brazil, Thailand, Colombia, etc, are fantastic places to bang girls, but that does not mean that they are free of problems....quite to the contrary. Don't led a good lay cloud your vision of other realities, like real life that does not always involve mongering (mongering, afterall, takes $$$)

The same applies to the news....If you live in Sao Paulo and watch Globo news, the only news you will see about Rio is most likely that of Favelas, shootings, robberies, etc.... the networks there are just as biased towards a certain type of hype reporting...just like the US. Many non-Rio residents refuse to visit Rio just because of reporting they have seen on Globo, or are very scared when they do come.

I think the type of news that people watch greatly influences their overall feeling of well being and outlook. I can think of my own mother as a prime example - she watches local news every single night. Channel 7 in South Florida - all she sees is bad shit happening. She is to the point of being scared to go shopping, because Channel 7 had reported some robberies or something like that at a Walmart... each new report multiplies her paranoia.

The same for people watching Fox - how can someone that watches that Network consistently not start feeling some sense of hate towards the US government with all that negative reporting? I would be extremely curious what they would do if the Tea Party (PLEASE - NO) ever comes to power - would they turn into the love fest network?

FOX NEWS just improved their credibility by a small amount by dumping Glenn Beck. However, they will probably take credibility to a new low by replacing him with Michelle Malkin or Sarah Palin.

Hot4ass2
Don't be so down on the States it’s a pretty cool country, I try and get out there at leased once a year usually around the New Orleans Jazz fest. I think that the USA is strong enough to survive two more years with a remarkably useless President, but on the bright side I hear that his golf game has really improved since he has become President and had more time to play. I really hope that the Democrats find someone worthy of the presidency to run next time around, not just an empty suite.

The really great thing about America in my humble opinion is summed up in three documents, The Declaration of Independents, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, so as long as you keep a close watch on the people who want to mess with those, the good old USA should be fine.

Don Marco
Well if you like that good old English accent I fully understand why you watch BBC, you should also try Sky. I have been told by some of your fellow countrymen that the South African accent sound the same as the English so if you ever get the urge to meet some girls who will whisper in your ear with a pucker accent maybe you should come over and visit.

Sky is good stuff too ;)

Indeed- SA is on my todo list!

Isawal, our president is a hell of a lot better than anyone the republicans have to offer. Sad, but true. Our real problem is that the supreme court has corrupted our constitution to allow unlimited corporate and billionaire money to buy unlimited propaganda to deceive voters into electing puppets that serve the rich guys. I wish Obama would step aside and support Bernie Sanders.

WOW - Hot4ass and I agree on something. "we've elected a puppet President".

I just wish there was some agreement as to who was pulling the strings on the hypothetical Obama puppet: is it the rich corporations, the socialists, the Muslims, or the Jews? Or maybe someone could do a tally of how many times each of these groups is proposed as Obama's puppeteer, so we could declare some sort of winner. I suspect though it would be a very close race.

As to Obama stepping aside and supporting Bernie Sanders, while I like Bernie Sanders, I'm sure even he knows that would result in either Romney or Pawlenty becoming the next President. And only the blind would fail to realize THAT would make a substantial difference, but not the type those who dump on Obama from the left would like.

Don Marco

If there is anything I can do to move ZA up your todo list let me know.

Hot4ass2
I’m of the opinion that McCain would have been a better choice then George Jr. Unfortunately by the time he came up against Obama his time had past, sadly. Sadly saying Obama is better then “I can see Russia from my house” Palin isn’t saying much. I totally agree with you that America desperately needs Election Funding Reform, with the world and more pacifically America’s economy in the state it is a billion dollar election seems obscene.
I must admit that I didn’t know much about Bernie Sanders but after a quick read I like the fact he voted against the Brady Bill and seems pro gun, (after all I just got back from a weekend of hunting). I also like some of his other, policies I have not gone through everything but he seems a strong supporter of civil liberties and the constitution I also like his views on the environment and landmines, I think against the right (no pun intended) Republican candidate it could make for an interesting election however I think its a case of wishful thinking to hope that the Democratic Party would support his run and Obama is so out of touch with reality and has such an ego that he may well do the Democratic Party irrevocable harm rather then step aside for a qualified candidate. I am sure that the Republicans will very quietly throw a thank-you party for the guy then Obama announces that he intendeds to run America into the ground, oops sorry, I meant run again.

ISAWAL,

McCain 2000 was very different candidate than McCain 2008. I think the guy completely lost his mind between those two campaigns and became so obsessed with power that he sold his soul to the extreme right nutjobs that have hijacked his party. As an Arizona resident since 1982, he has been my senator and the self promoting asshole has never done anything for our state. It is amazing that the dumb ass voters keep buying his "war hero" nonsense. Far better men have been POWs. His only military distinction was being a foolish pilot who put himself in a situation where he deserved to get shot down whereas smarter men would have protected a military asset that was far more valuable than the target. McCain would have been a horrific president. Just about any corpse would have been better than Bush Jr.

I think a Bernie Sanders versus Michele Bachman presidential race would be very interesting.
Not too worried about pawlenty or romney. A recent NewsMax poll had Donald Trump way out in front of all other republican candidates, so now Fox News has begun tearing Trump apart on a regular basis.

BTW: If you let your vote be biased by the far right gun propaganda you will completely miss out on what really matters in a president. Hunting overpopulated game species is fine. Helping deranged lunatics buy glock pistols with 30 round clips is undefendable.

First off, I test out dead center in political spectrum tests and if I HAD to choose a political party, it would be Libertarian.

If Obama is an empty suit, what was Bush- suitless? While Obama has been far from perfect, it is a major improvement over the 8 years prior. And yes, I'm better off today compared to when day 1 when he took office. Not quite to pre-Bush levels, but the gap is closing.

McCain's gaff selecting an air head for a running mate, sealed his fate. With that said, he has little curb appeal and was probably doomed from the start.

If Romney can get his act together, methinks he's the only one that stands a chance beating Obama.

LaGuy that is a great question - who is pulling the strings? Until 6 months ago I would of argued it was the people who run the Big Banks. But the way the US gov't has abandoned it's allies in the middle east and has come out supporting Al-Queda and it's deviants leads me to believe the puppet's Muslims roots are deeper then Americans want to admit.

One of the eternal questions I have is how does McCain support the arming and training of Al-Queda freedom fighters in Liyba. These are the same people that killed US soliders in Iraq. Now he says they are our brothers in arms. This traiter deserves a 1-way ticket to hell IMHO.

Isawal, judging from your disdain of Obama, and your fondness for McCain, and even more incredibly, Bush Jr., I would have to guess that you are using Fox news as your sole source of information about the U.S. At least it is nice to see you admit you have a problem by reaching out with this thread.

Which allies in the Middle East has the US abandoned? Explain to me how assisting rebels in Libya, an operation which started a month or so ago at most, goes back six months?


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Yemen according to the New York Times: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/yemen/index.html

Egypt and Saudi Arabia per NBC: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/nbc-s-brokaw-saudis-so-unhappy-obama-adm#

Typical left wing, you either can't read and comprehend or you are just spinning my words to suit your agenda. I never said Libya started 6 months ago. I said the puppet is backing Al-Queda freedom fighters who have killed US soliders. That's the facts!

Show some evidence of where Yemen has been such a great ally of the US. If you believe the US should have fought to keep Mubarek in power in Egypt, explain that reasoning. If you think that the US should stay beholden to Saudi Arabia, an autocracy that actively promotes an ultraconservative brand of Islam that we nevertheless have stood behind and protected for decades, just because they say so, then again, explain yourself. Your hypocrisy is incredible, if the US would have supported Mubarek you would probably complain about spending money to support a dictator.

What I think isn't the point. The point is US soliders that came under fire from the same organization that were responsible for 9/11 are now being supported, trained, supplied by the puppet, McCain and whole bunch of others!

The left-nuts are all the same. You either spin the words, change the subject, or personally attack. You can't deal with the facts even when they are sitting right in front of you. I even posted left-nut sources for you.

I understand the left-nuts well enough. Nothing I say will change any of you. Nothing you or I do can change what is coming. I have prepared, just don't come knocking on my door after the shit hits the fan.

I have read there is some concern there may be some Al Qaeda scattered among some of the rebels in Libya. From everything I have read, this is speculative at this stage. Moreover, I haven't seen anything suggesting Al Qaeda controls the rebels in Libya or represents a significant presence among them. Well, at least I haven't seen anything other than speculation and Gaddafi's rants on the subject.

It is possible I have missed something on this issue. So Bluelight, please share your sources with us on the specific issue of U.S. soldiers (or other personnel) training Al Qaeda members in Libya, which is what I assume you are referring to.

Parenthetically, I am puzzled Bluelight why you would refer to Al Qaeda members as "freedom fighters." Could you explain please?



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Well since Pan Am 103 puts Gaddafi himself like number two on the planet for killing innocent American civilians....................In my book he's as bad as any bad guy out there.

I am not at all sure we have a well thought out strategy though. We'll see. In any case, shooting off cruise misses is good for ME on a personal level and will trickle down as financial stimulus for the Philippine and Thai economy.

Sancho, I think we're taking a good route in Libya. They're basically killing each other, and we're simply keeping the odds even. Gaddafi gains the advantage, we bomb his troops to hell. The rebels start advancing, we take away air support. If there are terrorists on the rebel side, then fine, since there definitely are terrorists on the government side. Let them duke it out evenly for a while, then see who wants to play ball with us and NATO.

Murasaki
Firstly I never ever could or would supported Bush, I have nothing but distain for the man and his politics, I agree with Hot4ass2 to the degree that McCain was a very different candidate in 2008 to the man that ran against bush in 2000.

If you read some of my earlier posts about Obama you would see that I was pro Obama through the elections and well into his term, but I have lost all respect for him over time. I believe that he is the classic example of rhetoric and appearance over substance and ability. I still believe it was a great and positive statement about the American people that he was elected in the first place and reaffirmed all the positive things I believe about the USA and its citizens. The fact that he has not lived up to expectation is nobody’s fault but his own.
As an outsider looking in I have to be a little careful not to offend but if you want to know where I get most of my information about the States, well there are two main sources firstly my very liberal family that lives in New York, California and Connecticut and as importantly from you guys, the numerous and diverse members of CH, which, seems to cover the full spectrum of everything good that America stands for, there has only ever been one exception but every barrel is bound to have a few bad apples. That I have met so many cool CH members in my travels is pretty amazing in itself I have discovered that there is no better place to discuss the comings and goings of the world then over a cold beer in Soi Cowboy of screaming over the loud music at 4X4.
Hot4ass2
I am a fire arms enthusiast and spend more time punching holes in paper and trying to hit little clay disks then I do hunting. This week end I was on a rodent hunt on an organic farm. These hunts allow farmers to do away with indiscriminate use of pesticides and poisons. On gun control, I am anti it in all its forms because once you allow the principle of gun control within a few short years you land up with draconian restrictions such as those that England, Australia and sadly South Africa have, All of these countries have suffered major and sustained crime waves in the wake if these reforms. That is not to say that I don’t believe in responsible gun ownership I do strongly and actively support it by offering training and attending gun law debates as well as displaying and talking about firearms at shows around the country, but the truth is that the more you restricted the rights of law abiding citizens the more you are playing into the hands of tyrants and criminals, but that’s a debate all on its own.

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

"Freedom Fighters" is what they call themselves. Personally I would call them terrorists.

Isawal, I am not offended in the least by any of your statements.

Some agree, some disagree, in the end who really gives a shit? Just like our numerous tastes for ladies...

With that said, I'm happy as hell Obama won and took office. No, he's hasn't lived up to the hype, but who honestly expected miracles?

I mainly get all my news from the ladies in Shadows Bar on Santos St. They aren't up on all the latest politics but they have some of the most interesting bar girl news stories. During the election they were curious about Obama but opined that they favored McCain because they figured Obama would wear them out and be hard time customer whereas they figured McCain would finish fast, maybe with just a blow job and no boom boom, he looked like he'd be nice and would probably tip better.

How quickly the right wing nut jobs forget that Saint Ronnie tried to kill Moahmar Ghadafi way back in 1986 and totally fucked up.

Now that the United Nations Security Council has agreed that it is time to finish the job, those same right wing nut jobs are condeming Obama for doing what Reagan so miserably failed to acheive.

Many anti-war Democrats are also speaking out against the action in Libya, but I say it it time for that tyrant and his family to take about 50 million dollars and quietly leave the country.

I do not know if the Arab people will find prosperity or chaos when they rule themselves, but it is not the right of the United States to continue supporting dictators like we have done all over the world.

I applaud Obama for allowing those nations to seek their own destiny through democratic elections and non-interference.

I wonder how Philippines would be today if we had not allowed Marcos to hold the reins so long.