Everybody,
I'm proud of America. My mothers side of the family came from Germany during WWI and Fathers side came from France during WWI also. My grandfather was actually kicked out of America twice. He had no identification, so he took a boat back to Germany got every paper and photo of himself he could find and came back to America. It took him 4 weeks each way. They still said, no! He went back to Germany and became a skilled welder and in 1916 when the US needed Welders really bad they let him in. He said, He worked 18hrs a days 7 days a week until 1928 when he married my grandmother. He learned english within the first year. Why? He said, he went months without eating. No one wanted to give a job to anybody that wasn't pround to be in the land of oprotunity. And if you didn't speak english you obviously weren't greatful of America and Americans. He said, back then when you came to America, you were greatful or you got your ass back in the boat and went back to where you came from.

I too love Mexicans. Diego, No they haven't contributed in any way shape of form to better the human race. Why? Because they haven't had a chance. 95% of the people in this world are for lack of a better word, just waisting time. But it's our own fault. At the turn of the century western medicen and surgury started to help people live longer. We, The US and Europe sort of interupted the natural ballance of the world. The average life expencency was around 34 years old at the turn of the century. Now it's 62 years old for the world.

The US has taken 225 years to develope into a country that is geared for Educated law abiding people. And 95% of the worlds population doesn't fit that description. And Mexico is one of those countries. In 20 or 30 years when the people are more educated and are used to an technogecially advanced country. Then maybe we can start about opening our borders. But until then. Forget it.

By the way. I only chastize Illigal Mexicans in Mexico and the US. Yes, I love making for of them too. Because of our education, we see things that are so obvious and easy to fix. But they don't. So I just laugh and laugh.

Case in point. I was in Acapulco last year. I was sitting in a restaurant and I saw a bus pull over on the side to let off some pasangers. The bus jarred open a graded man hole cover. There was a large hole in the busy street. 20' long 2' wide 3' deep. I was just looking at it and people were just jumping over it. Non wanted to put the cover back on it. Then a VW taxi hit it. WAM! destroyed the front end of his taxi. Did he put the cover back on? No! 5 minutes later. WAM! My Westfargo side was in "Estacey" I just started to take pictures. There was a collection of 12 cars DESTROID! It was right out of a movie! I had to shake my head to beleive it.
I got up asked the waitor for some napkins and walked across the street. Picked up the cover and put it in the hole. It weighed 30lbs or so, I used the napkins so I wouldn't get my hands dirty. About 5hrs later I came back there was a collection of about another 7 or 8 cars that were DESTROID. Again the man hole was off. I moved it back on and got some BIG rocks and piled them on top of the cover. I came back the next day. There were a litteral junkyard of DESTROID cars. Again, the cover was not only off. But someone had stolen it. Aparently it's worth money. I have many many many more expericnces like that or worse in Mexico.

That's why I just like to laugh at them. And that's why I will NEVER support them freely migrating to the US.

Or course if their Dr's or Millionairs. That's OK. But not those Acapulco types...

Westfargo...

Diego,
Welcome to Mexico. It's sort of like the Matrix. Even when you see it, you don't beleive it. My father used to sum it up like this. A Republican is just a Demacrat that's been robbed.
Don't mind "Fatdude" 99% of all the guys that talk like him, haven't been to any other city in Mexico other then TJ. Or they live in the North East and come to TJ once every 6 months.

I'm not angry with Mexico and the people anymore. Their just a product of their enviroment. But I do beleive from the bottom of my heart that Americans don't belong in Mexico and Mexicans don't belong in America. Perhaps in 20 or 30 years when their economy is more on even par with ours should we allow the poor one's to illigaly immigrate.
In fact my view is widley shared, our laws reflect it too. It's nearly imposible for your average Mexican to get a visa to visit the US.
But that doesn't stop them. They cross anyway, and we foot the bill.
The place isn't evil, neither are the people. The people are like little kids, and the US is just like a big candy store to them. Their just pressing their face against the glass dreaming about all the candy they can eat.

The way most mongers cope with "MEXICO". Is that their so overwellmed with the poverty and lack of respect for live and liberty that's so close to the US. They just turn it off and remember that all men were created equal. Plus it's nice to go to bed thinking nice thoughts. However, it's really hard. I suspect that's why Fatdude thinks you may be taking drugs, because that's sometimes what it takes to ignore the shit that goes on down there. Also, most mongers usually get drunk and stay drunk in the zona. That is also a good way to add a touch of surealisum to the zona too. You'll just wake up with a hang over and think it's all a bad nightmare...

Westfargo...

It seems to me that WF creates entertaining parables to support his world views. I am not an apologist or a defender of them, as I don't believe in blanket generalizations. But there are some elements in his posts which have a factual base which creates discomfort in many. It may be this feeling is caused by the recognition of some things, exaggerated though they may be, that they don't care to acknowledge. It is this, more than the perception of some of his companions to be old or ugly, that creates this discomfiture.

hi westfargo

who is fatdude ?

i luv mexico and their people period !!!

i can name tons of cities in the usa that i have been to that make mexico look like disneyland.

i have never been robbed in mexico
i have had 3 attempted robberies on me in the usa.

i have never seen anybody hurt or killed in mexico.

i can name countless times when i was a dj in boston and worcester, mass and saw people getting either stabbed or shot and beat down severely.

lets not make mexico to be the worst place in the world.

how many time are people kiddnapped a year in the usa ?

i think everyplace in the world there are good parts and bad parts but overall i woudn,t say mexico is the worst.

and no i havent been to every single city in mexico
but neither in the usa and i have seen tons of violence here.

take care
milkman

WestFargo;

I agree, Mexico CAN do better, and I expect they will if they work at it. Only a liberal would truly believe that they have no hope(as such, the liberal is the true RACIST, as he gives the lower classes no hope, just a handout - while telling him that the conservative is the racist for expecting them to work hard).

I have seen some positive things in the last few weeks regarding Mexicans and computers... some examples, the San Diego computer store parking lots have MORE cars with BC license plates than they do with California license plates... and my girlfriend took a computer class. However, during the class, the instructor told her that Americans never invented anything, we just copied other countries... this is what got my started on the American inventors bender. Mexicans are actually told, and will beleive, this bullshit that is fed to them thru their education system. This is one of the root causes of their inability to advance.

The problem is, as of yet, the Mexicans don't understand the economics of rapidly changing computer technology... they try to do things "on the cheap", and are quickly left with a worthless piece of shit, or (like my girlfriend) they think that just because something is "new", then it is "good" - they have almost no concept of the word "QUALITY" - "CALIDAD".

Hey, StrikingViking, would YOU buy a Harley that was made in Mexico?

The thing is, if the Mexican people continue to believe in spooks, expect handouts from the government, tolerate corruption, have shitty work ethics, tolerate a shitty education system, and reproduce like rabbits, then I can only begin to imagine how bad it could get.

It is up to them.

SV;

You're right, man. That's why I bought the Honda ;^)

Have you ever read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? While the author, Robert Pirsig, is a little cookoo(that is actually part of the story), and the intertwined story lines are a little hard to follow(there are at least 4 that I noticed), it was a breakthru book in many respects.

The guy sold millions of copies, and the title spawned a thousand other books of similar titles("Zen and the Art of Recycling Dog Shit"), but he never was able to get things together well enough to write another successful book.

While one of the story lines is about motorcycle maintenance, it only comprises a small part of the overall book. However, it is very interesting, and it leads to the major theme of the book -- "QUALITY". The Quality discussion is TOTALLY AWESOME, and is still relevant today(the book was written around 1970).

Anyway, in the book he never mentions what kind of bike he's riding - but everyone knows now - here is one link:

http://www.honda305.com/cb77_600/cb77-605.htm

This picture shows his son Chris, who plays a very big part of the story(and who tragically was murdered by a drug-crazed fiend in San Francisco a few years later). It is hard to imagine that these two rode all over the country on that little old Honda 305. Pretty bitchin, really.

If you're too cheap to buy the book, you can read it online for free:

http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~ciochett/lit/zen.html

Bitchin.

Strikingviking,
I've met a lot of American that "Sleepwalk" in Mexico. You can say what ever you want. The ironic thing about my posts is that they are real. And I have many PHOTO's of the Taxi's stuck in the street and the missing grade. Has anybody been to "La Sarape" in Acapulco. If they have they well see a Man hole cover that in front of a Police station that the man hole cover has been missing for over a year and 2 people have fallen into it and died. It's about 20' deep. Roger was there a few times. I spoke to the police station that's 10' in front of the death trap. And they said, if you want to fix it. FIX IT!!! There's got to be one real monger that knows the area. If you've mongered in Acapulco you've been there.

Anyway Strikingviking, I usually don't argue with anybody. Why? Because my posts about the people and country are true. And if you don't like them. Tell TJHOMBRE to revoke my user profile. I'm just waiting for one sensor! I'm not getting any money for this. I help more people in the zona then here anyway...

Westfargo...

Everybody,
I finally got an answer I've been looking for all my life. Why do successful beautiful women chose loser men? I found a Psychitrest on the internet. And she explained it's part of women instincet. Here's a quote. I've always thought this way, but here's an expert to validated.

"You see
women are looking to turn a piece of coal in to a
Diamond. That's are challenge. Women are always trying to
Validate herself as important by fixing someone’s life.
Then everyone would say wow look what a good job she
did with that loser she saved. Many unattractive irresponsible men are very attractive to women in general. If she can change a man that would give her the
Recognition she's wanting."

There we have it! Successful men who through there money around are nice. But where's the challenge!

Westfargo...

WestFargo sed;

"Let Freedom, Truth, and the American way rule... "

fag!

Diego,
I would love to get a shirt like that. Superman is AMERICA. If anybody or country is against Superman. That's worth starting a war over.

Aarvark,
I know the shirt looks "Gay" but in the 50's he was the bomb. All our mothers used to go into the kitchen at night and go into the Vegitable tray in the refrigerator. And take the largest cucumber they could find. Then run the hot water in the sink until it got hot then she put the cucumber under the hot water until it was 99.7 degrees. Then she went to her room and jammed it so far up her pussy it busted into her cirvix. And the would screem, "SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!! hhhhhaaaaaaaaa"

Just because the shirt is out of style, doesn't mean the women don't like him. I see lots of young honies in the Tropical wearing Superman shirts. Why? Because they all fucked me. And I look like Superman!!!

Westfargo...

didn't refer to your shirt....it was in homage to most of Diego's responses to people that didn't like him or his posts....so quid pro quo!

Back to the topic, I think Super-fago is on to something here:

I do agree that women, the lesser sex (per our history), do have a need for recognition if they otherwise lack self-esteem. And if giving us hell is productive they will do it with relish (or cukes).

I have a next door neighbor who is an unemployed(able) homebody who obviously lacks any self-worth, who tries to manipulate the neighborhood. She doesn't have any self-worth-life of her own so she tries to be a busybody to everybody else. God, I would buy her a case of cukes if that would solve the problem. What she really needs is a LIFE.

Professional women are not like this, or not as much. They have their own games to play.

But in summation, many women want to have a man to change and manipulate; and the reason is because of their own lack of self-esteen. Just say CUKE yourself baby!

LOL , westfargo, you truly are one of a kind. Your sick and twisted humor always makes me laugh. Especially that joke you just made about running hot water on the cucumber... ROFL! Dont listen to the people who belittle you and put you down just because a preschooler can beat you in a spelling bee contest. I think you are an invaluable pool of resource that we can all draw from. And whatever racist comment you make, I simply just take it with a grain of salt. People are putting too much thought into dissecting your every post.

Also, like I said before to you, I'm still waiting for the day when you start your own clan and model yourself after David Koresh. With all the seeds you've planted on your travels in Mexico, I'm sure you can have quite a clan just with your siblings lol

I meant to say offspring instead of siblings.. yah thats it =P

Eclipse...just don't drink the Kool-Aid when WF asks you to!

Eclipse,
Thanks, I guess. My humor isn't sick and twisted. I'm here to HELP!
Aardvark is the one with the sick humor. I'm not looking for followers, I'm looking to educate you guys so the next time your in a stick situation you can better cope with the locals. I see how you guys cope with everything. Through money at it and run. That's really pothedit. Again, I was in Mazatlan 3 months ago at Rosio's dad's house. Him I and his family were sitting on his proch drinking beer. He's a very well educated engioneree. And he was looking at the moon. And he said, Westfargo! How the FUCK did you do it? I said, What? He said, the moon! mmmmooooonnn!!!! I'm an engioneere. Do you know what it takes to fly to the moon and fly back safely. He continued, in the morning my car won't even start and takes 4 or 5 guys to push start it. And there's the moon, you didn't only go there one time. You did it six times. SIX TIMES!!!! You Americans are holding something back from the world. I bet you have a secret machine that flies all over the universe and changes time. I bet you even went back in time to fuck-up Mexico with out us knowing. And everything is fucking secret with you Americans. You just come down here, you don't say a fucking word. You though your money around like you all have personal money machines in you homes.
He said, NOW! Tell me you mother fucker!!! How the fuck did you do IT!!!
By that time there were at least 10 people from in the house that came out side to hear my answer. I know the Mexican Psychy, all that America stands for is going to come from my next sentence. And I muster up all my Super Imbassador Westfargoism. I grabbed my beer slowly took a sip. I looked at the moon. And I slowly looked at Him and said, That's a secret and if I told you I'd have to kill you afterwards. It was dead silance.

Her dad just looked up at the moon took a swig of beer and said, I thought so.

Westfargo...

pothedit?????

Tomas:

"pothedit"= pathetic...

YoungBrig