SEAL THE DEAL:

Of all my years there’s only one thing the separates the experts from the armatures. Sealing the deal, it’s buy far much easier then nogciating. I’ve read so many sales books its second nature to me. However, I forget many guys, even sales guys don’t understand their actually trying to sell themselves. The gal all the time is saying to herself. Is this guy really worth my time and and effort to look at his disgusting naked body. I’m going to be blunt about it; most guys look at them self’s in the mirror, and say, shit! There’s no gal that would want me for even $100. That’s 99% of the reason you pay a fortune for these gals. Low self esteem!
Everybody, this is were “god” has taken care of us. Women are very visually oriented and rather shallow at first. In other words there like us, they too want an 18 years old senior that plays football, with a 10” cock. Brad pit, etc… However, unlike men, women only stay shallow for as long as the man shows his low self-esteem.
Roger is 65 years old; 2 years ago he fucked a VIRGIN in San Diego that was 20 years old. This gal really loved him. I’ve met her too. She’s no super model, however, she’s 20 YEARS OLD. And a virgin, I don’t know any guy on this board that wouldn’t fuck the shit out of her, if given the chance. How did he do that?
He simple used his god given manly powers to TELL that she likes him. Easy, he went to her work every day, said hi, and kept talking to her. Asked her out, naturally she didn’t want to go out. He treated her like women. 3 months later, she was a certified Roger sperm receptacle. He does that all the time.
Of course I told you that story so you guys feel good about your self. You guys have worth. That’s how I rationalize. If 65 years old Roger can get a 20 years old Virgin, I can fuck Hillary Clinton and Chelsey too. Those gals should appreciate us fucking them. They should pay us!

After you follow the Negotiation rules:
And your relatively sure she likes you. You have to test her, how much does she like you. If she keeps saying, “Lets go to the room and keeps looking around” just get rid of her. I know it’s hard, but there’s a shit load of others. This is going to take a little time. It’s like learning to dance or fuck. However, if you have a gal and she relatively understands you and she haven’t just left. Just tell her that you want a nice gal in here that you can call a girlfriend. Someone special. Say, Yes I know there are LOTS of other gals, but I don’t like or fall for that lets go to the room stuff. It’s so phony! I just want to be held, loved; I want her to take her time, to give me a message. I want her to suck my dick; I want her to lick my belly button. I’ll take a quick shower first. “But make it QUICK!” While I’m sucking her tits I want her to feel my cock in her little pussy. Then I want to cum in your mouth! I just want you to feel all my goo all over your lips…
Tell her everything. Give her a moment-by-moment blow of what’s going to happen. Ask her what she likes. As GOD as my whiteness, she won’t go away. They love to hear this nasty stuff. I’ve had many go and order and buy their own drink and have me start where I left off because it’s like a soap opera to them. Most likely they’re going to let you finish. And give you a hug and whisper in your ear and say lets go to the room. At that point you say, I Horney, but I didn’t bring much money. They’ll say how much did you bring? This is when your getting into the expert stuff. You say, thank god I didn’t buy you a drink. But I have and open up you wallet and only have 189 pesos, more or less. Then reach into you pockets and pull out an extra 110 pesos mostly in 20’s and change. That’s about $30 dollars. I’ll put a 50/50 chance you’ll get laid. Try to be alone. If you have a friend she’ll tell you to ask your friend. Just tell your friend to nod his like to say no. Roger and I do it all the time. She may say, OK 200 pesos now and 200 next times. At this point you can come up with all types of reasons why you can’t pay 200 next time. But I just let her know I can’t and I want to fuck her now. 90% of the time that solves that problem. If for some reason she still gives you shit. As some of the hottie central gals do. The other usually NEVER do. But if you get a bad one. Just tell her to think about it. At that point they know there’s many other gals that will take you for 200 pesos. So they will think they just put so much time and effort into you. By god they’re going to fuck you.
If you have some SPECIAL thinks you want them to do, tell them you’ll pay them afterwards. But be sure to show them the money. Don’t be a stupid and give them the money before you’re done. If she insists, just walk out of the room and get your money back. Period!

Remember, always pay in PESOS. Just as their money is monopoly looking to us, ours is to them. 200 pesos are real to them. $20 is one third what the other stupid American just paid! That’s a golden rule about pesos. NEVER forget it!
You’re the client; don’t let them boss you around. They do that to most everybody, but not you. You’ve been “Reborn” you a real man! No one is going to rush you for any reason. If you think you’re getting a bad deal. Don’t be shy, just start to put you clothes on and walk out the door. And NEVER pay her. The first time you do that you’ll feel so good, you’ll know what it’s like to be a MAN. I’ve walked out of the room without paying after fucking the gal and got my money back. And the following week I fuck the shit out of the same gal. And gave me more respect then any man had the right to get. That’s one think about Mexican gals, if they respect you. They RESPECT you. Your god!

The laws in the United States have degraded men to the point that were just a bunch of pussies. We can’t even light a cigarette for a gal without them calling the cops. But in Mexico, you’re free to be a man, and to soak up all the benefits associated with it. Most Mexican women that live in Mexico think American men are pussies. But when the gals finally meet us, they KNOW were pussies.

The real question is, are you a bunch of fucking pussies or are you MEN???!!!?????????!?!??!?!?!?!?!???

Westfargo…

"However, unlike men, women only stay shallow for as long as the man shows his low self-esteem."

Wow! I want that printed and framed!

Hey West, are you sure your real name isn't Ross Jeffries?

"If 65 years old Roger can get a 20 years old Virgin, I can fuck Hillary Clinton and Chelsey too."

Let me know when the movie comes out.

"As GOD as my whiteness"

Talk about a Freudian slip!


"You’ve been “Reborn” you a real man!"

You almost had me for a moment.

Westfargo, I know you're trying to help us out, at least I think you do. I ,for one, do not have low self esteem, nor do the rest of the guys that I go down with. We go because it's fun, and we like the atmosphere. Some of my friends have good looking girlfriends, but just love the zona. What you say may apply to some, but not to all of us.

You seem like a funny guy, and I've asked some of my friends about you. Most of them know you, and I haven't heard anything negative. I want to put you to the test. If your willing, I will pick out five girls, and let you do your thing. I have payed all these girls $70 for an hour of fun(two fucks), and I have done only minimal negotiating. I challenge you to get them for $35 for an hour. These are very good looking girls from diffrent clubs. If you succeed I will pay for everything. I'm not doing this so you can fail, because believe me, I want you to do it. I think it will be fun, and if you do it, it will save me some money, in the long run.

WF here is your chance for five freebies. Go for it!

$40 for the hour and I think we have a deal!

Bajaboy,
There are many different types of mongers that go to the zona. I catagorize everything and everybody, two major catagorized of mongers are the young under 30 years old, prime of their lives, and the over 40 years old, falling fast. And yes the older guys usually make a little more money and arn't quite as viril as the younger ones and they know it. So to make up for their lack of confidence they pay more so they don't have to suffer the imbarasement of being rejected. To make up for that low self esteem they pay more to "cut the crap". I've taught a few young mongers and they just come up to "hottie central" gals and start idle chat for 10 or 15 mintes and say, I've got $20 or $25, do you have a half hour to spare? The gal says lets go. I've also told a number of older guys 40+ to do the same, they all say, are you kidding! I'm not stupid, the'll say NO! And their absolutly right. The women are like animals, they smell the lack of self esteem and confindence. They look at a middle aged guy that can't even start a conversation with a 19 years old girl. You don't like to talk, and when you do your not intresting. She doesn't like the guy, and she problebly never will. So if he says, Lets go fuck for $20 bucks! She said, NO! and walk away.
However, if you follow my rules and they are so easy. You will not only be super intresting, she'll want to fuck you, maybe fuck you all night long.

And your on, you pick the gals and I'll fuck them. Thanks for offering to pay, because I won't fuck any of them for over $20. Period! I don't have too. Because I always find their usually never over $20.

It's obious you don't read my threads. Remember, you tell the girl how much your going to pay. NEVER NEVER NEVER ask! They all say $50+ and in all my years of negociating with companies thats the kiss of death. You tell them your going to pay the gals $20! And if they find you intresting, you WILL get laid for $20. Period! It doesn't matter if your old fat and ugly. She'll like you and you will fuck her for $20!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be there tonight in the AB at 10:00PM. I'll get her at your price, or at least one of them. Thanks for the offer. I look forward to a fun time. But make me a promise, don't keep paying top $ for the gals. You might be a handsome young millionaire but it's just bad form!

Westfargo...

Bajaboy,
If you can't make it tonight, let me know when.
I'm usually there Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday nights.

Westfargo...

I have hung out with Westfargo on a couple occasions and it is pretty damn funny to see him at work. And, his methods can work. Any effective salesperson can make this stuff work. I have been successful getting dirt cheap sessions when I first started going to AB to see if I could. But there are a few conditions and costs.

First, you have to go when it's slow. Getting a good looking chica during peak hours on Thursday thru Sat for $20 is unlikely. The better looking ones have a clientele and don't need to take $20 and view such an offer with disdain. It's simply a function of supply and demand.

Second, these methods won't work with the hot chicas, especially at AB and CC. It would be easier to get them for free. hehehe I could show West five chicas to get for $20 and place the bet that he pay $20 toward my session with them if he fails to get one of them to go for $20. I don't think he would take that bet. Of course, I'd be happy to pay for his $20 session if I lost. Simply put, they don't need to go for $20 when guys are waiting to go for $60.

I prefer the approach of paying them fair market value and that doesn't mean I have low self esteem either. I try to show them a good time and have fun, then get extended sessions upstairs...naturally, not because I negotiated for it. That's why I go down there in the first place. I don't worry about the money and it usually doesn't even come up until after we're done. I don't want to have to worry about getting over on a chica. I have never had a bad session in AB (even when a chica was pissed at me she came through with one hot session!) and have never had to demand my room money back. Some guys may find getting chicas for dirt cheap a challenge and enjoyable, but the risk factor goes way up for it to blow up in your face. This has happened to Westfargo, I've seen it.

So, can you save a lot money his way? Sure you can and there is certainly nothing wrong with paying less. Good luck to him. Go for it if you want to and it can be succesful with middle to lower tier chicas. But it won't be with the type of chicas I like to go with and you will become known as a cheapskate and a bullshitter, and I don't care if you come armed with strategies, great stories and truck loads of self confidence. I like West, but have seen chicas put off by his antics. They have told me they would not go with him for any price. I think they would for the right money, but is that what you want to do? Remember that many of these chicas are street smart and can smell bullshit a mile a way. You better be damn good at it.

Baja Boy, $35.00 an hour for Wes to seduce 5 girls of your choice?!? Heck i'll counter that offer for $34.95 and no 'teeeeeep'. :-)
What I will do is first tell the chicas i'm wells
fargos brother or long lost cousin that survived the stove explosion years ago in Mexico City after the earth quake and was in the hospital for years for rehab and only ate tamales to regain my strength. I will also tell them that once I got out of the hospital my uncle gambled all of my family's money away on chicken fights and that lupe my cousin got pregnant for the 10th time and now I have to help support her and her children by selling tamales early in the morning which prevents me from going to school or looking for a real job cause my bicycle got stolen.

The chicas will be silly putty in my hands in no time and will perhaps have pity on my poor soul because my stories will sound just like wells fargo's and therefore will be the truth! So if Well fargo does not show up under the heater i'll take his place. After all, i'm a graduate of the Well's Fargo umivercitie of 'Steal of the deal' enstuttut ;-). Yet can someone help me locate a store that sales pen light flashlights?

Raiders.

Celtic,
You've got your shit together pretty good. I don't have preach to you. However, from my experience the gals start the night as follows:
Walk in and search for the "High rollers and regulars" after their through fucking all of them they'll start to take the straglers, ie(local Mexicans) They don't want to pass up anybody who looks like fun ie(westfargo) a few extra bucks. Yes, I'd had some REAL nightmares in the AB bar. But those are the exception other then the rule. And most of the time I welcome it, I've never lost with one. They
ve never hit me or screamed for help. However, every single one I've had problems with have been associated to "hottie central" I love to put them in there place.
When playing the Westfargo game, your keeping a high profile, and therefore are open to ridacule. Yes some gals in there don't like me at all, but fortuntly their nature is such that they can't hold a job more than a month or two. So, like the rest, they just come and go...

Raiders,
Thats some funny shit, you can pose as me anytime.

Westfargo...

Roger and I waited under the Heater last night at 10:00PM tell 11:30PM, And I fucked a gal for 88pesos, about $9.25. Her name is Mary from Mazatlan. All you guys have seen her in there from time to time. Very friendly and a little ugly. I didn't want to fuck her because I was waiting for Bajaboy. Of course I only had 180pesos, and she told me to ask Roger. Of course Roger took out his "Phony wallet" with no money. I had told her the story that the I had to take the kids to the FREE clinic because one caught Hepatitis from a Taco shop, and his Liver is failing. She immediatly started telling me about her mother's arthrities, and father's that has no fingers do to an accident in a factory.
A few minutes later I told her I didn't want to take her away from her business. Because I know she needs to make money for her children. I knew that did it. That usually clinches the deal. She said, I wan't to "Make love to you" I said, Lots of kisses and I want to cum in your mouth. After, Of course! She said OK. She was worth the $9.26, however, she didn't swallow. After that I spoke to a few mongers. And they critized my gal for being a little too ugly. They started to laugh and said they wouldn't go up with her at any price. And this is the gods honest trust. One of the guys took Marinay from Mazatlan. Have you guys seen this real tall half blond from Mazatlan that speaks a little english. Looks like she got AIDS, always wears tight spandex, usually pink. He went with her. I've spoken to a few mongers and they say she's the biggest piece of shit. He came down not more then 15 minutes with this "What happened" look. I said, how was she. He said, Great! $50.00 she's very good. His friend looked at me and said, he's lieing, I can tell he got fucked.
At that time it was 11:30 and Roger and I left...

Westfargo...

10 things West-Fargo did wrong on tuesday nite....

1. Did not shovel enough BS to Mary to lower the
price. Could have had sex for the price of a Happy Meal!

2. Picked a coyote ugly chica that perhaps you or I would have paid less for.

3. Did not wait for bajaboy to witness the 'steal of the deal'.

4. Did not even get any free dances with Mary.

5. She did not swallow, that should be a discount.

6. She did not sit with fargo after the 'deal' for any length of 'free' time.

7. She did not even offer 'seconds' for free.

8. No photos were taken to 'prove' the 'steal of the deal even took place!

9. The phoney 'wallet' syndrome is an old old M.O.
for a monger, originality is on the decline, more inventive means of belief need to be harnessed, perhaps unpaid hospital bills and a fake heart operation could sweeten the deal?

10. Last but not least, never take a girl up to the room who says she wants to make love to you, chances are the session will be like making love to a cold fish and we all know what a fish smells like, the girl of choice should have been a challange and not any easy lay.

Perhaps a 'steal of the deal' part II can continue later this week with some more favorable reviews to follow later, how bout it fargo? If so, the girls need to be above a 4 or 5, a 10 will get extra points!


Raiders.

West, I won't be down until Friday. I tried to email you, but it got kicked back to me. Let me know when you're going. The chicks I'm talking about all work at night. My offer still stands, but if you're a day type of guy, I will by you a beer to watch you BS the girls.

". She was worth the $9.26, however, she didn't swallow"

Perhaps if you had sprung for the extra .74 cents, she would have done it right.

I like Raiders idea about the fake heart operation.
Dr.Dick, how much would you charge to give me about one hundred stitches across my chest?

San-Puto, i'm glad you liked my idea. I think that perhaps an old heart pace maker that get tossed out in the trash can bins behind a hospital or a clinic would work just fine and cost zero. You can put in some old batteries on the pace maker to make like the machine is on, then tape a long wire to your chest from the pace maker and presto! The chica will think that you are not only telling her the truth but also realize that you don't have much time on planet earth that that she will want to rock your world for a very long time in bed, perhaps for free!

Look for a pace maker that has flashing lights, the chicas can relate to them even more since they have been conditioned like pavlovs dog, IE: west fargo's pen lite. Yet monger beware, if every guy walks into the bar with one, our gig is up! This will only work for a few mongers, after wards, the chicas will be wise to us. If this works I still need to get paid in terms of cerveza.

100% = one ice cold bottle of carama corona

50% = cacowates con sal sin pica ;-)

25% = chickletes of my choice of color

10% = chickletes of your choice

1% = The telephone number to Mary from Mazatlan.

Raiders.

I'll gladly donate a beer to Westfargo to watch him work his BS. I could easly learn a thing or two. Man, I'll bet it's like watching Kobe Bryant drive to the hole.

Bet that Kobe ain't fuckin' no nasty bitches that the average dude might not fuck for FREE just to prove he can get 'em for $9.25...

Westfargo, you remind me of Saddam Hussein. Cant handle Desert Storm so you take it out on the Kurds and Shiites.

Why pick on the helpless, homely, hoes? Isn't it time for you to invade Hottie Central? Put your considerable skills to work? Make them fall in love with you then break their hearts? They deserve it? You cant claim to have conquered Panochistan until you come down the vans deferens staircase with a hottie central babe in tow, tears of devotion in her eyes, begging you to take her back for free.

Don't bet against him. Westfargo could probably sell sand to Hussein.

Exactly Conshagi, you should see some of the bow-wows he does. These are the kind of girls WE would be charging $60+ dollars to go upstairs with. I've seen him and Roger with Flur, one of the sisters he occasionally references, passable body but gotta be pushing 30/40 with a hideous face. Most others I've seen him with I wouldn't go near. Once I saw him talking to a daytime Monica, nice body but only 6/10 face, appeared that she blew him off. Granted, he is doing them for a few pesos, but personally I couldn't get it up for these types of chicas.

Anyone believing he's doing decent looking chicas for $10-$20, just remember exploding stoves, dead families, and his favorite food, tamales. He's willing to lie his ass off to rip-off and impregnate poor and naive young girls and their families (remember, he can't get decent HC girls) Are you willing to believe everything he says?

Not to say some of his info isn't useful, scattered about is some good stuff. It's just that as a whole I find some of his tactics rather sleazy and at times I'm embarrassed that he's a "fellow American".

Hey el gato, did you do that blonde or the brunet chicas we saw at CC?? I went back in there later and saw them both in the same places. I am really curious about the brunet we saw at the bar. The one with the long hair.

Is this true, Westfargo? Are you paying for something that others would'nt touch with a barge pole? Please put this speculation to rest.

The flip side of WF's poor taste in women is that the lovely chicas like him, too.

Explorer, you ridin' that dude's fuckin' jock so hard, it's hilarious. Why don't YOU blow him next time you see him and save him the $9.25?

Bros Conshagi and El Gato, you right on top a things, far as I'm concerned.

How long before we can expect the WestFargo pay site, Westie? You so concerned about savin' ya money, you should put some energy into MAKIN' more too. Looks like a lotta dudes here would just as happily pay you for your advice on how to fuck ugly girls for $9.25 as they'll pay that other dude to take 'em on a $50 'tour of the zona.' You missin' out on a great bizness opportunity...

Bajaboy,
I was there last night, but tonight I’m going to be busy. I have to take the kids too Easter egg hunt Sunday. However, I may be there Sunday night.
Thanks for the offer. I’ll take it.

Frekonature,
I’m looking forward to the beer, Talking to those whores makes be a bit parched.

Conshagi,
For any of you that have ever tried to communicate to “hottie central” gals, they don’t communicate. All kidding aside, they really don’t have anything to talk about. They rearly look you in the eye, they have real issues. They can’t kick back and relax for even a moment. Their eyes are always fixed on the next customer. Yes, I can bullshit them real well, but they’re not half as fun as the new one’s. Yes, they are a challenge but they really don’t interest me. As a matter of fact, since they’re so shallow for lack of a better word. I find them quite ugly, but not in a physical sense. But evertime I walk in the AB I always harass a few just to keep my senses at their peak!

El_gato,
Your right you shouldn’t believe everything you read, but hear me out. I’ve only been with for a grand total of 1hr out of 10,000’s of mongering. And only in the AB bar, which I despise. So I hardly feel you’re qualified to judge my tactics. Plus, Flur is 24 years old. And she fucks 10 times better the Blanca in ‘hottie central”. Flur swallows. Show me a hottie central gal that swallows. I’d like to have her swallow my cream!!!!

151rum,
I’ve fucked shit that only guys would dream about, young big tits virgins. I also fucked shit that lived in your nightmares. But I NEVER NEVER NEVER fuck anything that has a fucked up personality. Yes last year I fucked a gal that was 52 years old, from the Milcoronas, she even had a weave in her hair. However, that women rocked, and she was one of the funnies funniest women I’ve ever met. I found that judging a gal by her personality is far more reliable then by her looks. I’ll take a 52 years old that’s a riot any day over a 20 years that a bore. Sorry if I’m disporting you, I just don’t judge books by their covers…

Exporer8939,
Thanks, that’s right!

Ritmo,
That’s funny, however, I’ve got lots of money. $100 is nothing to me. Chump change! However, after years and years of just fucking, I’ve reached the age that I found it’s a lot more satisfying; to KNOW that the gal I’m with truly likes me. Any guy for any reason can fuck nearly any gal in “hottie central” for $100. However, what makes you different from the guy that she doesn’t like. She’ll fuck both of you guys the same. Right? No! Put your self in their place. You don’t really need any gals money. Your rent is $150 a month food and clothes is any extra $500, you don’t have a car or insurance or credit cards. Etc…
You only need one $50 gal a night and you’ll make ends meet. You fuck 10 or 20 gals a night, that’s the routine. You just say, lets go fuck and the American gals fuck for $50, $70, $100 one after another. And then one day, a Mexican gal comes up to you that’s rather different, great personality makes you laugh, tells you stories that may be true or may not. It’s not important, because she’s entertaining. That turns women on. I’ve fuck, Blacks, White, Asians, Europeans, nearly any type of gal you can think of and they LOVE jokes and good conversation. After a half an our so you want just want to be close to that gal. You feel goose bumps, you just feel different. You say, do you want to make love. The gal says, I only come to talk for I don’t have much money, I’m different then these other gals. Plus I don’t like just straight sex, I love to feel you the way a women should feel a man. By this time you will fuck her for free. She is what they call a “Diamond in the rough” That’s what I am to many of them. When I fuck them, I just don’t fuck them. They always French kiss, I slam them every way they can be slammed, then I take the condom off and CUM right in their mouth. I can make an old women blush, or a young gal squeal. All men have that ability, living in the super facile fake self-centered society; we’ve lost touch with our god given ability to seduce. Me can actually seduce women fast than women can seduce men. Plus we have the advantage. Most women really need to love a guy before they can make LOVE to him. It’s more or less a combination of lust and love. You can’t buy that, IT’S URNED!!!!!!!

Westfargo…

WF:

Since all the chicas talk to each other all the time, how come they don't get wise to your bullshit?

After all, you've been there longer than most of the chicas...

Dude,
Well, maybe I just got more game even than the great WestFargo, but I SURE have had the kinda thang you talkin' bout gettin' with your $9.25 girl with more than a few Hottie Central girls--that is, French-kissing, lotsa positions, fun conversation, etc. MANY other dudes here have posted about similar experiences. It ain't the norm there, and it can't be had wit every girl in HC, but in-the-know brothers are hip to how and where to get it. Yeah, it usually can't be had for $9.25, but tha point is that some brothers (including this one) will HAPPILY pay a little more for a nice raw experience with a hottie--from what some other brothers sayin' here, I think I'd rather spend my $9.25 buyin' a few drinks for a hot girl than get my dick anywhere NEAR the skanks you talkin' about gettin' for that price. On the real, dude, you fucked a 52 year old woman?!??! Man, I ain't NEVER fuckin' a woman that old in my life, and I don't care if she's fuckin' Selma Hayek at 52. I'd rather go without. At that age, a woman CANNOT be sexy, in my book. Law of nature. You make it sound like every dude that fucks HC girls is gettin' the 5 minute in and out routine, and everybody that knows ANYTHING about TJ and AB knows YMMV.

So preach on about ya thang, if ya gotta, but know that you just don't know whatcha talkin' bout if you think EVERYBODY's experience with hot girls in AB is the 5 minute skin-a-gringo. I find PLENTY a things to talk about wit my two or three little girlfriends among the HC crowd, and they SURE don't race for the door when we're done doin' the wet-and-sloppy either. Some of it has ta do with the fact that 1) I don't do 'accountant-speak' wit 'em ('hello, how much?') and 2) I don't lie out my ass in ways so crazy that anybody wit half a brain can see I'm bullshittin' (my momma just died from cancer, for the third time, and I live right across the street on Coahuila wit tha other homeless dudes, etc.). In fact, I got pretty good friendships wit a few of the HC girls--but we're fuckin' friends, if ya get my meanin'! Maybe you oughtta take MY advice on this one, Westie, since it looks like I, not ta mention some other bros here, do way better in HC than you do. We don't need ta step on each other's toes, though--you stay there wit the $9.25 girls and give advice to the dudes that wanna get wit that kinda girl, and I'll be runnin' my game someplace else...

151rum, obviously he ain't gonna pierce his own veil of bullshit, but all of us who have seen him in action, including amigos like Redongdo, are completely aware and have posted on this board over and over again that WF is doin' girls that most of us refuse to do for free. We go mongering and agree to the exchange of money so we can enjoy sex on a regular basis with women who won't do us for free...at least not on demand. So the major lesson of the master when it all boils down, is that desperate skanks fuck cheap. And if you need to learn from Fargo that a good sense of humor and drama will get you positive attention from women, well I guess you are early in the learning process. Fair enough - that's a good lesson.

Time to breakup the circle and break off from the false messiah before you drink the Kool-Aid! Believe me, he will deposit you right where you started - looking for $40-60 hotties. I repeat my challenge to the followers: any testimonials about hot sex with hot chicas for $10-20 in the clubs? We've heard about the "knowledge". Now let's hear about the knowledge applied.

Can't wait until the board focus returns to why we go to TJ in the first place - to enjoy the company and sexual favors of HOT chicas - even at the incredible sacrifice of $50.

Right on, Brother Nap-stereo! And speakin' of hot chicas, somebody posted on the threaded board that Lucelena is back at AB. If that's true, check her out (if ya don't know her already)--in my experience, one of tha best of all time, top rank in looks, and a sweet, warm girl. She rocked me quite a few times during her last time through--I just hope she sticks around this time until I get my eastcoast ass back to TJ in June!

Ritmo, it was love at my first sight of Luz Elena a couple of years ago when she was new and so fresh and calling herself Armenia . Fact is, I may be running my dragster down there tomorrow in case her stay is short. Have to say that she's become more mercenary over time and I'm hearing that hasn't changed during the latest tour stop. She ain't got much time for you downstairs if you aren't ready to go upstairs SOON. She's not on my all time providers list, but if I could pick just one of them out to take home to momma and get down with all permanent-like, Luz Elena is the ONE!

Bro,
She IS easy on the eyes, eh? I heard that she can be a fast-mover, 'cause she know there's a long line a brothers waitin' on her. The trick for me was NEVER approachin' her for action except on non-weekends, non-prime time. Though I was sometimes in the club at those prime times (those were the days, when you could be in AB on Friday and not have muthafuckas standin' on top a ya...no more), I just never gave her the idea that I was interested in havin' her during her prime money-makin' time--I'd say 'what's up?', give her a a little kiss then and maybe exchange a few words, but I'd always be the one ta say "I'll letcha get back ta work" after a minnit while I sidled off to get me a beer or ten. But on weekdays, esp. late, she was always pretty generous to me wit time and energy, both in the bar and in the room. She was heavy inta learnin' English then, so I did a lot of translatin' for her (while she sat in my lap in the bar or laid on top a me naked--the best kinda language course!). Be interestin' ta see how much English she remembers this time--hers was more or less non-existent when she was here before...

Explorer8939,
Your right they do talk to each other, however, they look at it likes it idle chat. And the one’s that I offend usually only last a month or two. 90% of the gals in the AB bar go away forever after a few months. 10% are hard-core, and when they need a laugh or two they speak to me.

Ritmo,
I think you miss the point; I’m saying you don’t have to pay BIG bucks for any gal. I know your satisfied with what your doing. I was once like you. Until my brothers set me straight. They said, don’t you get bored with you fucking every gal with your big bucks? In other words, buying your friends! I got really mad, I told them to take their funny jokes and go stick’em up their ass. However, I really wanted to know if the gals liked me or was I buying them. I knew deep down they had a point, but I didn’t care if they liked me or not I was having a good time with them. And then one day my oldest brother set me up with a double date with two gals from the Long bar. I thought what a waste meeting a whore. Why I just buy her and get it over with. My brother said, stupid, you’re going to do this one RIGHT or else. He said, maybe you can fuck her all night long for free, maybe not. But remember, she probley fucks a lot of young whippersnappers all night long for free. Offer her a couple of bucks after talking to her for about 30 minutes, and if she insulted, she doesn’t like you, but if she says, why not, or for free is better, then she obviously likes you. I went along with his stupid stunt. And I started to talk to her, she saw obviously not interested in me. However, I told her I knew her city Orisaba, Veracruze. And I named off a few places the why my brother told me. Remember, I’ve been to every state in Mexico and nearly every city large and small have streets named after “X” presidents and revolutionary people. So even if you haven’t been there, you’ve been there! All have a central large historical church next to a park called “National Park” it’s so simple it’s genius. I was doing what my brother was doing an it was so fun. Naturally I fucked her like I’ve never fucked a whore. Have you ever had a girlfriend that has been in love with you. That’s the way she fucked.
After that I was a new man. I was still getting jacked by the police and other shit. That was way before Westfargo…

Plus, what’s wrong with a 52 years old. Yes it sounds grose but those older one’s rock. I’ve actually fucked in the morning in Acapulco two months ago, my young looking girl, she is so cute. She was a virgin last year. She made the hottie central gals look like shit. She left and at noontime a 45 years old made came by, she would sit and wait down the street for Ruth to go away. Then the 45 years old would come and I would fuck her tell she was raw. And I would measure her pussy size and movements, you know me. I pay attention to everything. After that I had Karla, a little 18 years old at about 6:00PM I would fuck and eat her for a few hours. I would feel and lick every part of their body. And the 45 years old pussy that had 3 children, had a tighter wetter better pussy. Plus her skin was smoother, and she would take her time and scream make noises and have orgasms after orgasms. Ruth and Karla never did anything half as good as the 45 years old. The only thing that Ruth and Karla were good at, was that I felt good letting my friends see me with them. I was so shallow; I didn’t want to be seen with the 45 years old. I really do feel bad, because she always wanted to go out to eat or movies, but I just used her for bootie call. O’well! Next!


Napstero,
I too would like to know if anybody is doing as well as I, I know Roger and Jimmy do it all the time. And hear a lot of mongers rant and rave about excellent deals, but they don’t go into specifics. I question them. But I don’t get a straight response. I don’t care because even if they don’t get 100% I know they’ve gotten a few things. It’s so simple and common sense that you can’t help but apply a little of it. Again, what may work for me may not work for you. I’ll give you the foundation it’s up to you to apply the methods according to your life style…

Ritmo
You seem to really be letting this stuff get under your skin.You believe in your way of doing things with the chicas and it works for you which is great.There's lots of different ways to skin a cat.There's a lot of guys that like to read about all different aspects and theories about the zona.Your not only busting on Westfargo but also anyone that would like to hear what he has to say.Westfargo is trying to keep his stuff to a few threads and so it's not like he's trying to take over every thread on the board so if one wanted it would not be too hard to avoid it.I've read a lot of your stuff in the past and have found most pretty interesting but this steady harping on westfargo and those many who show some interests in his writing gets pretty tiresome.I mean this post just as a bit of a heads up and not a flame.
Taxibob

Napstero-I acknowledge your point about getting back to basics. But nevertheless, regardless of whether Westfargo is bullshitting or on the square, his posts are still the funniest on the board. Bar none.

Bro Taxi,
I hear ya, respect ya, love ya. The only thing about WF that gets under my skin is the steady anti-Mexican thing you see him almost always on (check out his recent thing on another thread about "90% of Mexicans who try to be friendly with gringos in bars are just tryin' to scam ya"--maybe 90% of 'em are trying to scam YOU, WF, but I ain't been scammed yet and have had LOTS of talks with locals I didn't know in clubs). That shit bothers me sometimes, and I respond to it when I feel the need. Most of the time I just ignore the dude. The stuff about him payin' ta fuck ugly girls and fuckin' middle-aged women I mention because I just find it FUNNY, given the image the dude tries to maintain of bein' Super Player. Bro, straight, it don't bother me if dudes wanna lissen to 'im, 'cause I sure ain't nobody's daddy 'round here, but just 'cause he got an audience ain't gonna stop me from bustin' a hole in the balloon filled up wit all the hot air from time to time.