DEALING WITH LATINAS 101

Over the last 10 years or so I’ve almost exclusively dated and mongered with Latinas. I did not grow up in a Latin culture, but I grew up speaking Spanish. In my early 20’s I was able to travel to Spain, Mexico, and Central America and it allowed me to start dating Latinas. I found regular relationships and mongering to be much better with them than women from the USA. After making many mistakes, I developed some rules, or a more of a strategy for how to act around Latinas. This is not an attempt to tell anyone how to do things. Using these basic rules as a guide has worked well for me with mongering and with Latina girlfriends. In recent trips to Rio I’m 100% in high quality sessions-that’s probably over 50 total consecutively. Some of that is luck, but I’m convinced the rules played a big part.

Everyone on the board knows that Latinas can be very passionate and sexual, more so it seems than women of other cultures. For mongering, the trick is to make her like you and then she can more easily let go and enjoy the session. Latina prostitutes are often mistreated socially, but they have fewer hang-ups about what they are doing that working girls in the USA. I’d say the majority of the Latina’s I’ve been with have the attitude that it’s not a good thing for them to have sex for money, but that they will enjoy it if they can because they like sex. That’s what you want to do-create a situation where you develop some chemistry and rapport before the session and then see where it takes you, or know when the signs are there you should not go with a Latina. Remember that pretty much every Latina you see knows how to fuck your brains out. The question is will she and how do you improve your odds of getting a great session. The bottom line is you want the Latina to see you as a person and not a commodity. If she sees only $, then she is likely to look for a quick turnaround. If you can talk to her and relate to her on a personal level and can tap into her desire to please, you’ve got it made. Some of these suggestions will sound counterintuitive if you are used to dealing with US women. Remember that Latin America is not the USA and is very culturally different. These strategies are designed for Latinas outside the USA. Once the Latina is exposed to the USA and the feminization of culture here, they will not work as well.

Here you go:

1. ALWAYS BE IN CHARGE. This is the most important rule. Latinas in other countries are not brought up as women are in the USA. They grow up in a male-dominated world. In their eyes men are supposed to be decision makers, but more than this there is an ideal of a man being the strong and silent type. I’ve found the best strategy is to act as though you are in charge whether you are or not, but don’t be arrogant. In the USA women are brought up to be co-decision makers and because of this Gringos tend to ask the Latina what they want to cater to them as they would a woman from the USA. Instead of being grateful for what you perceive to be kindness, the Latina sees this as a being weak and will take advantage of it. For example, if you want to go out to eat, politely try telling the Latina you are going to a restaurant and you would like her to come. If she protests tell her that’s where you are going and you are sure there is something she will like. If she keeps protesting say you’re sorry but I thought you wanted to go out and cut her loose. Instead of asking her where she wants to go, you politely told her where you are going. If she wants to be with you, she has to accept on your terms. It is subtle, but she will pick up on it. Alternatively, most Gringos ask the Latina where she would like to eat and what she would like to do. In most Latin countries women rarely eat out and even more rarely would be asked where they want to go-more likely the boyfriend or husband yells at them to hurry up and cook their dinner. You leaving plans up to her plants a seed in the Latinas mind that you are indecisive and she can set the terms of the relationship. Her boyfriend/husband would usually tell her where to go, but instead of you making plans, she did and you followed. If you are dealing with a more hardcore or opportunistic Latina, you can bet there will be more suggestions (i.e.-let’s go to the mall, etc..). I would try to use subtle techniques like this to demonstrate you are in charge rather than being belligerent about it. I find when I do this initially, I get less bullshit from them down the road because I've shown I am decisive and will say no to them.

In Rio some Hombres have noted that garotas they are with clean up after them and do their laundry and want to cook for them. This is common with Latinas-they want to please you and have been taught that to cook, clean and doing chores is the way to do it. What you should do is embrace this, but never overdo it- for example tell her politely you want her to run to the store for you. Give her a short list and money for the items, but DO NOT pay her for going. When she gets back kiss her, hug her, look her in the eye and tell her she is special and you appreciate her help. Do this and they will go crazy for you-your next session will likely be memorable. The reason why is because the Latinas father, brothers, boyfriend, husband, etc.. have ordered them to do similar things their entire life, but they rarely show any appreciation and treat them like shit. Doing the little things like this will mean a lot more to the Latina then throwing money at her.

Many have asked how I got the women to pose explicitly in my Rio reports. I just told them to do it in a nice way in Portuguese and the majority did because they are used to doing what they are told. I never paid any of them a dime and none of the garotas asked for money. However, I did thank them and tell them they were hot and that I was turned on by how they posed for me.

2. NEVER PUT UP WITH LATINA BULLSHIT. This is an extension of Rule #1, but I’ve read so many horror stories that I had to make this its own rule. Remember YOU are paying her for her services. That means you don’t have to put up with the bullshit like you do with a girlfriend or wife so take advantage of it! So many Hombres are used to being nagged incessantly and bitched at by women in the USA that they are used to women behaving this way and actually feel more comfortable with it. It annoys me when I see guys letting Latinas run all over them when they are the ones with the power, they just don’t know it. My rule is simple-When the Latina starts with the bullshit, tell her to stop and if she doesn’t cut her loose immediately. It can be hard to do at first because as guys we don’t want to turn pussy away, but it really is invigorating once you do it, and there are plenty of other Latinas waiting to take her place, especially in places like Rio or BA. You are better off to do it sooner rather than later. Common examples of Latina bullshit are cash for sick mothers, sick babies, baby clothes, English course, etc…..Good rule of thumb that any request for goods or cash by the Latina that isn’t for sex is bullshit and you should assume it’s a lie. If you hear the Spanish word “Regalame” (Ray GAH la may) drop her immediately. Regalame = buy me/give me something.

3. SPEAK SPANISH and/or PORTUGUESE. You should always try to speak the native tongue of the Latina if possible. This rule kind of transcends the others because it can only help you by making the other rules easier. I speak Spanish and I can’t tell you how many Latinas I’ve rejected based on what they say in casual conversation or by picking up on a bitchy attitude. Speaking the language helps you in a mongering situation, but it’s essential picking up non-pros and semi-pros. If you plan to monger seriously or date a Latina, learning Spanish or Portuguese is a necessity.

4. NEVER EVER ADMIT YOU ARE BANGING ANOTHER LATINA. This is a big mistake I see a lot of Hombres make and it can really hurt your session quality and lead to a Latina meltdown. Assume you have a Latina you’ve repeated with and you consider her a “favorita”. She knows you are a monger and you fuck other women. It’s obvious. However, you should never tell her to her face you are banging another Latina. She expects you to lie to her and say you aren’t, even though she knows the truth. If she ever accuses you of anything, always deny it. She knows that you are full of shit, but she wants to save face. IT DOESN’T MATTER that she’s fucking more guys than you are fucking girls, still don’t bring other Latinas up-there is no positive outcome to doing it and you will not win the argument, even though you are right. Your best bet here is to avoid the issue altogether and deny involvement. Always lie and tell them you didn’t fuck any other women, only them. Usually they will say they don’t believe it, but will let it go.

This is why there are so many soap operas going on in Termas in Rio. A garota you may like and have repeated with will know when you fuck another one and she will usually give you some shit. Fortunately Termas garotas get used to it a lot and hide their jealousy better than others, but meltdowns still occur. It’s not just about the money, Latinas are very jealous and possessive over men in any setting. Latinos are just as jealous about Latinas, we just don’t see that side of it as much


5. BE A GENTLEMAN. Rules #1&2 should not be construed to mean being rude or belligerent. Actually you should be romantic, kind and courteous. One of the downsides to the Latinas is that men take advantage of the fact they are in charge and go too far. Many are physically and verbally abusive, especially to working girls. This is an opportunity for you to make a positive impression on a Latina. Most of the Latinas expect to be treated badly as the Latinos often treat them, so you should open doors, pull chairs, tell them they are beautiful, etc..Be as romantic as you can, but also show you are in charge (Rule #1) and that you immediately say no to any bullshit (Rule #2). Try to joke some and make her laugh too. If you can do this successfully, you become the ideal man to them-a strong silent man who is in charge, who likes and cares for them and Latinas often respond very favorably to this. As many of you know, the sessions with a Latina that likes you can be very intense.


6. ALWAYS NEGOTIATE PRICE. If you are a Gringo and are quoted a price by a freelance Latina, always counter immediately with half the price or less. You can figure the Latina is at least going to double the going rate if not more, sometimes you could counter a little less if the first offer is high. Good examples of this are Blue Marlin in Costa Rica and Help in Rio. Chicas quote $100 in the Blue Marlin, which is about double the market rate of comparable talent at $45-50 in Club IDEM, EROS, or Krysis. You should always counter with $50 equivalent in Colones or less and negotiate from there. Anything over $50 is technically overpaying, but most would consider this the surcharge for being at the Marlin as you generally bargain to $60 or $70. Same thing happens at Help in Rio. Garotas will quote $100 or 300/350 Reais, when the market rate is really 100-200 Reais.

When you pay the Latinas price, she sees you as a sucker who doesn’t know how things work. You become a commodity-a way of earning much more than they could otherwise and the focus becomes not on service, but how to make even more money off of you. Latinas will respect you more if you show that you understand the system and won’t be scammed. I have overheard dozens of conversations between working chicas at the Blue Marlin where the women point out the ones who pay $100+ US without negotiating and how stupid they are-some even tip on top of that. Walk away from the one’s that won’t negotiate from an inflated price. She is likely a hardcore type and your session won’t be good.

There have been guys posting about drastically overpaying Latinas recently and condoning it. Regardless of how any individual situation may turn out I think it’s a bad idea and sets a terrible example. One of the purposes of this board is to act as a guide for Hombres who have yet to go to other countries. Reading the boards recently one might think that more you pay, the better off you’ll be. This is probably the worst advice one could give a Gringo in a Latin country as the average Hombre will be scammed, pay more and receive less.

This rule applies generally to any Gringo quoted a verbal price in any Latin country. You should assume it’s marked up at least 100% and counter with half. It doesn’t matter if it’s only $1, $2 or $5, remember you are not in the USA and do the next Gringo a favor to keep prices in line.

7. BE AWARE OF THE 3x RULE. This is a rule that’s easy to break when you find a really hot Latina you like. I tend to break it once or twice a trip and I regret it when I do. The rule is courtesy of Moondog and may the best mongering advice out there. Never see a working girl more that 3 times. If you do, only negative things will result. I’ve found sessions with some of my favoritas in Costa Rica and Rio to be more intense than sessions I’ve had with girlfriends. It’s easy to start to see things in terms of a “relationship”, but it the chances of anything productive coming of it are practically non-existent. Many have tried and failed and you can read about it yourself on the board.

8. ASK HER ABOUT THE FAMILY. I always try to do this. It’s often effective in separating you from other mongers. It’s a custom in most Latin countries to ask how someone’s family is doing as a matter of courtesy. Specifically, with the Latina ask how her mother or kids are. I do this when I first meet most Latinas and if they have kids, ask to see pictures. When you do, say “Que lindo” or “Que linda” no matter what they look like. It just makes Latinas comfortable socially if you ask about their family and they will look at you differently than other Hombres who walk up and say “How much”. When you do session this can help make the Latinas more at ease with you and apt to treat you more like a friend than a client.

9. REMEMBER LATINAS ULTIMATELY WILL WANT ONE THING. And it’s not money, although luckily this is probably all they want from you. Latinas will ultimately want to get married and have kids, probably lots of them. That’s their dream, so if you happen to smash the 3x rule or are “dating”, beware if things get serious and she wants you to meet the family.


10. LEARN TO DANCE. This one is tough for me to admit because I can’t dance well and I’m afraid to try and look stupid. However, it seems all Latinas are born knowing 2 things-how to fuck and how to dance, so if you can dance with her that may be a way to break the ice. I’ve seen guys with no Spanish skills dance with a Latina for an hour or two and get their brains fucked out all night. It makes me want to learn.

11. YOU ULTIMATELY PAY FOR EVERY SESSION. YOU SHOULD TRY DO SO IN CASH. One lesson that is hard to learn is that men always pay for sex. The only questions are when and how much. This often comes up in Rio or Cuba where if you hook up multiple times, women may give you freebies after awhile. Of course there never is a freebie and the Latina expects something often costing more than money in return. Even worse, it ends up costing you a lot more emotionally in a breakup than it would have to just pay her for the session. Best bet is to negotiate a price, pay it, and then she leaves. It doesn’t have to be money either-with a favorita you could offer a meal, shoes, clothes, whatever…just remember a freebie is never free for a man, so figure out what is owed beforehand and pay it. It should be cheaper in the long run.

These are a few rules I try to live by. The key to getting the elusive “GFE” (that’s experience, not girlfriend), is to first have the Latina respect you, then like you. When a Latina is into your session, it can be very intense. As Gringos most of us already have an advantage as Latinas are often looking for guys who are nicer to them and can pay the bills. Hope this helps…..


HC1

You guys could learn a lot from this post.

Thanks HC1.

CP

Hombrecito, Thanks for a truly great post. I agree with everything you've said and highly recommend that anyone interested in relating to Latinas, long or short-term, read your comments carefully.

There are a few other cultural notes I might add based on my experiences (for example, attitudes about telling lies and about the some of the attitudes of machismo culture in general) but don't have the time now to do so. I'll try to post something within the next few days.

Thanks again!
TG

Thanks for the great info. What's interesting is that, in my experience, I find most of what you say is true for Asian culture as well.

Excellent advice. I agree with everything you have written. My only additional comment would be that in the Termas in Rio (and perhaps this even translates to the Blue Marlin in CR): NEVER GO WITH THE SAME GIRL TWICE IN A ROW. Doing so sets up an expectation that you will exclusively go with the same garota/chica. Switching girls every time will allow you a lot more freedom with a lot less grief. This way you can see your favorites alternatively every other time.

Very wise words. My Latina wife often comments to me that most American men are pussies, who let their women push them around. This arises contempt in a Latina heart, as it should.

That is another great thing about being with Latinas - they *expect* you to act like a man, and respond to it. Always be clear about what you want, and that you intend to get it, either from her or someone else. They understand and respect this, and feel special when you want it from them, and treat them kindly at the same time.

Outstanding stuff HC1...the one I do differently these days is #4...use the jealousy against them ...kind of what rich states about never going with the same one twice in a row..admit it and make her want to out sex the new girl...yeah you will get the latina meltdown ...as our good friend(BT) gets alot.. but maybe the only thing better than a latina in bed is a pissed off latina in bed trying to prove she is the best...

I am getting better at #6 with the language skills increasing...you guys who are fluent have a big advantage...

I will add #8 ..good one...

Hombrecito I enjoy your posts and the above I enjoyed reading very much. I always like to see the views of other mongers especially when it comes to there views about Latina women. With some mongers I completely disagree with there statements and others come very close to the truth.

I grew up in a barrio that was half Latino and have dated nearly every Latin race in existence. I even tried to create my own Latin races
I have dated on both sides of the border and have extensive knowledge of the culture and the way one should approach and treat a latina if he intends to keep her.

For having good times with a working girl your statements are pretty much on point. Good Job !
I have wrote posts before that are very similar to your post above. Matta fakt I have been in the middle of my latina lifestyle post which is a very long post and should be finished in a few weeks. It deals with both working girls and real girls.
If I may can I compress your post into 1 paragraph?

A working girls time is valuable if you can entertain her and show her a good time outside of what she is used too you will find your encounter to be special one.
She gets lots of customers and not all will get GFE.
Be different Be respectful Be Milkman and you will have a great time.
Do things that are un-mongerish! Hombrecity is right Dancing is very important.
Latin dancing is a form of foreplay. If you can dance up a storm she only imagines how you are in the sack. This is how freebies are bought and paid for ! This has nothing to do with what you look like but how you perfom- thank God !

Treat her the way you want to be treated but at the same time learn from the locals as they fuck these girls for gratis That's another lesson all together different that is partly explained in Hombrecitos post. And remember Latino Macho-ism is something that cannot be faked you either have it or you don't. If you fake it you will be caught. It can be learned Danielson and you do not have to wax on or wax off !

Just in the short time i have lived on the border town on TJ I have turned myself from a DumbGringo into a person that most chicas can't tell apart from their boyfriends.

Thanks for reading my post
GCL -oops I mean
Milkman

These rules apply to all women, not just latinas.

I don't care what people think about American women, they also like the man to be in charge and like all women, you need to be careful of being to generous, as most women will take this as a sign of weakness.

They need to know that you love them, but you are ready to move on if they fuck with you. The best thing I ever did was walk out of La Tropa one night in front of Sugar Pie and take this other women up stairs and fuck her.

Sugar Pie now makes love to me like she is out to prove that she is the best fuck in Tijuana.

HC1 - Brilliant stuff. Can I buy an autographed copy? Condensed down to a laminated wallet card?

Seriously, this advice that you have been quietly interjecting into your posts over the past months has really helped me to turn the corner. On a recent trip, I tossed 4 girls out of my room in 4 days. Unheard of behaviour for me, but invaluable advice to improve the quality of my sessions. Others tried to give me a little shit, and quickly got into line when I applied #1 & 2. And you know what? Applied properly, they pipe down and behave in no time flat! It's amazing really. I still remember the first time I tried your advice; subconsciously I was 'ducking' mentally in anticipation of the load of shit this chica would give me - AND IT NEVER HAPPENED! I was so fucking happy the rest of that session.

I've had some of the young (18) cubanas respond very positively to this line:
"You're very beautifull and sexy. I will stay with you provided each time we make love is better than the last. Can you make it any better?"
Remember, I have a limited vocabulary...I gotta do something different here.

Thanks HC1 for taking the time to share this with us. Great stuff.
DG

Post of the year.

Orale Hombrecito1 !!

Great advise. Many will read, few will believe, and fewer will act upon it

Yes, this post changed my life. Please talk down to me some more.

Everything I learned about dealing with Hispanic chicas, I learned from WestFargo - and I'm sticking with it.

"I tel her I'll giv her $10 to fuck her in the ass. If shee dwont let me cum in her fase I dwont pay"

Layne-I originally had a lot more on the #4 jealousy thing about Termas, but the guide got so bloated I cut it out. In Termas you can't really follow this rule unless you only repeat with one garota and that won't happen. It's a tough situation because you're in a Terma to sample, but every garota knows every other garota you've fucked. A great experiment is to ask one of the garotas to name the other ones you've been with-without fail they will point each one of them out to you and may even mention garotas in other termas. It's happened to me twice.

That's why I included the rule. Latinas have memories like elephants and won't forget when you stray. I like your plan of pitting them against one another too-I'll have to give that a try. Rich's idea is good as well, but I invariably end up repeating if I have a stellar session.

Thanks to all for the kind comments.

HC1,

Perfect. Thanks for the insight.

The 3x rule came from Ricardo, the owner of www.platynum.com.ar and www.escorts-argentina.com. He has been in the escort business for 30 plus years, and he has three basic rules:

1. Never see an escort more that 3 times.

2. Once an escort or working girl, always an escort or working girl. They leave the business, but then always come back to it in some form or another.

3. When a girl says she can speak basic English, it means "300 Pesos or Reais, and your hotel."

All of this is subject to change of course, but if a person keeps in mind these three basic rules, then there are usually no broken hearts in the process, and they can keep it strictly business and fun at the same time.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

HC-Great post; sage advice; great perspectives.


Re: #4
As noted in our Cuba Report, I couldn't believe DG had both favoritas in the same room at the same time with each other. NR got so pissed off and jealous, she literally fucked his brains out to assure her position of being #1...lucky bastard.

I guess that makes #4 a situation kind of deal. I have never admitted or even given the slightest inkling I am with other women, even when they ask. Like you say, they know you are BS'ing them but accept it none the less.

I must admit, I want to give DG's experience a whirl just to see if I can pull it off as expertly as he did. The man has big balls and didn't get them crunched.

After reading MoonDogs 3X rule last year, I made it a mantra in my hobbying escapades. I've broken it a couple of times and been about 50/50 on outcomes. Pending Rio report with Alexia being a case in point. Not a regular on the programma, just in Rio for a few days and helping to pay for her expenses. I guess if it is a regular programma girl, the 3X rule should always apply.

The guys are dead on about mixing it up with the Terma girls. Some that haven't, have found themselves almost blackballed from being with different ones in a Terma. When they walk in, favorita is all over them and they can't sample. (many times the other girls just back away cause they know/think he is there for favorita or won't approach him because they assume he belongs to another). You guys know who you are........!

I continue to study the Spanish and practice it every chance I get. I am still in elementary school as far as being conversational but can easily get my point across. Keep learning. Commit 30 minutes per day to it in whatever form you can. Pimsleur CD's are great; videos with books are also a good way. Keep plugging away.

Dancing-OMG are you right on with that one. I happen to enjoy dancing and am very comfortable getting out on the floor...even if we are the only couple dancing (just ask UWphoto). The chicas love it too when you can keep up with them, teach them a few new moves but what really gets them off is having them teach you some of the Latin moves. When you pick up on them quickly, they will see you as an accomplished dancer, a prize and will want you to dance with them often. The best place for them to show you new moves of course is in bed or the bedroom when they are naked....right DG? The only thing better than watching them in a public place shaking that ass is in your bedroom, naked, shaking that ass.....OMG!

Photos-As Seaman mentioned, Sandman="no session without a photo" Well, not always but a very high percentage. They do love to pose. They like seeing the results instantly on a digital camera even better. Best is if you have a PC and can download them immediately for a better view. Best advice; Camera=never leave home without it.
Not just for posting on this board but for your lifelong memeories. I was actually thinking about doing a collage of 2002 in review and turning it into a tapestry. May still do it because I have a ton of material (over 1,000 photos) and it makes for an interesting conversation piece with your friends and fellow mongers.

We should really post this and other similar advice columns in a separate thread. I recall one of DG's cuban buddies explained to him about Latino machoism, being a Don Juan and the do's and don'ts of being with Latin women. If we combined all the advice and wisdom, newbies would be able to start their adventures off right and some of us older dogs could learn a few new tricks as well.

Again, great post. Can't wait to hang out with you some day.

Sandman

Sandman
I'm on my way to fantasy island again, or I'd take the time to write out a longer response to your last post. It's hard to keep up with the boards anymore...maybe I should spend more time at home?
Regardless, when a vet such as you suggests that I have pulled something out of the ordinary, it's nice to hear. Your comment that I have big balls might be less accurate, however - I'm sticking with the "incredibly stupid" and "incredibly lucky" angle.
Talk more when (if) I return.
DG

Wise Words

True across species,race and even gender. Dominant alpha males rule except for praying mantis types. I agree with Ben, even American born and breds want authoritative control that can be relied on. Nothing dominant, nothing domineering... just be large and in charge. I have lived with a Peruvian, Vietnamese, Polish Pollack, Japanese and now a continental Indian. I find them all to appreciate being kind and definitive. I like the advice and have found traces of it in many forums. I miss reading West Fargo and hope his illness and pain is not punishment for his bad ass attitude, but I like the Hombrecito slant for real accuracy and not BS.

Oh wise men. There is some truth to the "3X" rule, but there is the old saying "that practice makes perfect", but there are many latinas where the "3X" rule is just not practical. This is because many latinas are the absolute best plummers in the world.

There is the one lady in Argentina that I have seen in Argentina 25+ times. I have been in her home, talked with her on the phone, and DO NOT GIVE her money other then the normal visits, but yet each time I see her, the sex is better then before.

We used to negotiate prices, and last time I asked her what she wanted, she told me that I could pay her whatever I wanted. I do not aske her now, and just slip her what I feel like paying.

A few of you at CH seen me with her, and I have given her phone number to a couple of you who have seen her also.

What has happened is that I now have an "addiction" to this lady. She has not abused this, but she has become the standard for me in measuring other women.

I am use to beautiful women in my life. I have been married twice, and the 2nd wife was as good as any chica on this site, and could drain anyone's plumbing, but yet this Argentine lady still has the edge of wife #2, but she was of German heritage, and at times could be the "coldest" thing you ever met in your life.

This Argentine lady is also very smart, and has a wit that can keep up with the best of you.

All I can say is that if you should find someone you really like, and also that they do not abuse your trust or money, you might really want to consider ignoring the "3X" rule.

There are many mongers more accomplished then little old me, but sometimes it is worth sticking (no pun intented) with the tried and the true.

By the way, over the next couple of weeks, I will see her 3 or 4 times in BA, and she will also go to Porte Alegre with me for 5 days. Shucks, this means I will not get to experience Porte Alegre with a Brasilera, but will have to do with an Argentine in Brazil.

If you find someone you like, do not be afraid to break the "3X". Even the monger of all monger's Moondog, Athos, Lanyne87, DonGringo, Godfarther, SF_Hombre, and others break this rule on occasion.

Just go with the flow guys. Sometimes after a lot of strokes (internal of course), the flow can be really great.

CP

PS: If you find someone you want to marry, stop mongering. After mid march, you will probably not see any more posts from me because I will have busted the "3X" rule then. The flow from that lady is great also.



(Message edited by canonperdido on February 06, 2003)

Nice work Hombrecito1, although my experience is a little different. A while ago I had thought about putting a list of "Rules of Engagement when dating a latina" on this board. I still have the draft on my computer, but stopped short since I simply don't believe in it myself.
First: I am only dealing with latinas who live in the US or TJ. The young and educated ones who I prefer are not really that different than Gringas in their expectations of a relationship.
However, they tend to more vocal about it.
Second: Is sex really better with latinas? I have done about 50+ latinas, most as 30 minute fucks in a brothel, about 10 were longer term relationships. I have done 15 white girls, all non-pro before a switched to my latinas-only policy.
The main difference between latinas and gringas in my life was that latinas simply are more outcoming about sex. I remember phone calls to my work like: "come home soon, I am horny and want you to lick my pussy".
The gringas I dated also liked to be eaten and fucking could be as good as with latinas but they were less open about it.
Why do I not date gringas? I like young, dark skinned, black haired girls with natural tits, no piercing, no tattoos who are willing to date men almost 20 years their senior.
I simply find very few gringas who would fulfil this.
What is left about all these theorizing:
1)I treat all women equally well.
2)I think latinas make better whores than gringas, since exchanging sex for money is not that unthinkable for the non-junkie chica than her gringa equivalent.
3)The margins between whoring and dating are more blurred with latinas.
4)In the latin culture it seems more acceptable for older guys to date younger girls. I take the difference of attention my novias and I get in San Diego versus Mexico is an indication for that.

Just being myself I found to be the best route to take. However, I should add I have always been the dominent one in a relationship and I have never been no. 2. I never take anything seriously
when it comes to women. The less you care, the more you will appeal to the opposite sex. There are no demands, no expectations. However, when nose to nose you should display a softness and a vulnerable romantic soul. This invites her "in" and it does take long before she wants more of it.
This not, however, apply to the hardcore types as they will display the "leadership" qualities while being uninvited to do so. Get rid of this type immediately.
A little humour, light caresses and soft kisses and a response to anything which comes back is a sure fire way of really having a warm and memorable relationship.
The same applies when dancing. If she is in your arms and the rythym is romantic, soft and light movements with an invitational attitude works wonders.
And don't forget the long and warm look into her eyes. The longer it is with as much sincerity you muster will pull the defensive layers from past experiences. Works well while dining.
Flexibility in attitude, inner strength and desire. No words needed.
When I left for the airport, the last one I was with wanted to accompany me. At the airport she became even more open and began telling me about her adventures in the program. I was surprized when she told me she had flung a dish into a wall in a hotel room when the client balked at paying her. Apparently its a common problem. Looking at her I could hardly believe she was capable of this. As I left to board the aircraft, she had tears in her eyes and asked when I was coming back, not once but at least three times. I could only answer I will be back in one year.
Sadly, it I who now sheds the tears.

yeah CP- I am guilty as sin on the 3X rule...I am learning to deal with it..I find as long as I am in love with more than one I am safe and can go back many times...but when I only have one wife, not a good idea to repeat too many times...so for me key is to have many wives...not too hard to do in S.A. it seems...there are just so many of them who are soooo sweet...

We will miss ya after March...

CP:

Why go to POA with your argentina? Go to Floripa (beaches!) instead.... just a suggestion!

BS

You are right, but I already got the tickets. Will check into changing them.

wow!!
I mean, WOW!
-Wmax2

Question about rule #8. I agree that you should ask about the family, babyies etc. And I always try to do that from termas to beach or resturant girls. It does help to show that you interested in a little more than just sex, adn the girls really like it.

Anyway has anyone been invited home to meet the family and has anyone actually gone. My last trip met a girl had a session in MC then had a date 2 days later. The next morning she dove us out to meet her mom and cousin. Mom made us lunch. She also showed me stuff from school and her "real job". It wasn't until later that my buddy was saying "don't you realize she is trying to impress you and show you that she has goals and working towards them." At the time I wan't paying attention, just enjoying seeing other parts of Rio that I wouldn't have without her.

Any thoughts??

Nyl12
Definitely this chick was reaching out and connecting with you. Next time you have the chance, develop that. It's great. One of my cubanas took me home to meet her mother and family and from that point on, the sessions fired up to a new level. Can't hurt, right?

Dongringo:

Thanks. I have stayed in touch with her through phone and e-mail and she says she is taking english lessons, "just for me". Her cousin translates for us when I call right now. I do plan on developing it further and see what happens. Plan on going back end of March.

So anyone else have this experience??

Nyl12,

After your first post I was going to agree with Dongringo because you meeting her family seemed not to be serious. Something about your second post bothers me, maybe the "just for me" statement. I'd be careful if you proceed. Scroll up and read Moondog's advice posted above:

1. Never see an escort more that 3 times.

2. Once an escort or working girl, always an escort or working girl. They leave the business, but then always come back to it in some form or another.

3. When a girl says she can speak basic English, it means "300 Pesos or Reais, and your hotel."

I break the 3x rule at least once a trip. I put it in the guide because in my experience nothing good has ever come from it. It's a great rule because it seems so right when you break it, but it usually holds true there is no postive outcome.

For you I would pay special attention to the second one-remember she's a Terma garota and it's not a good idea to get into a relationship. Also, why would you want to limit yourself in Rio? What about her makes you want to?

Hombrecito1:

Not sure what you mean about being careful? Do you mean don't fall in love??? if so I am being very careful. When I said "just for me" I want to believe it, hope its true, but I wouldn't bet you $100 on it. But hey its fun having a "wifey" and I realize that once a working girl always one. No mater how long or short they have done it. The money is too good. Hell I know I would do it every now and then to supplement my income if I could.

3x rule is per trip right? Didn't break that when I was there. May break it the next trip with "wifey" but will also be making new "friends" as much as I can. I will not be tied down so quickly. Was married for 8 years and single for the past year. Not ready to go back to that especially now that I have "discovered" Rio.

Nyl12,

By being careful I mean going into it with your eyes open that her interst could be more financial than romantic. When a Latina takes you to meet the family, it can be a sign that she wants a serious relationship with you. In your case she just met you, so that doesn't appear likely. Lots of Rio vets have "wives", just be prepared too when you fuck another terma garota that your "wife" will have a meltdown.

Enjoy your next trip.

The other thing here is that the only time the ladies take you to meet their parents is because they like you. In Latin culture, they will not take you to meet their parents unless they think you might want a longer relationship.

You might want to think twice about doing this. If you are just doing the lady, and are really not interested in more with her, I think that you should not visit with the parents.

If you think you might want more from her, take it for better things to come.

CP

Nyl12,

Be careful also means don't take up the forthcoming (if you haven't gotten it yet) offer for bareback sexo, followed a month later by "I'm pregnant with your baby".

I have kept tht whole baby thing in mind. I do not want to have to deal with that here in the states let alone 5,000 miles away.

Always have to keep the cover on!!

Nyl12. Did she have a deal water buffalo also? You can ask SF_Hombre about dead water buffalos.

CP

Just re-read this post. An all-time Club Hombre classic...

Indeed. I keep hoping for a Latinas 102 course, myself.

HC1! Your fans are begging you...

;-)

BS

Hombrecito

As I enter my third year in the hobby, I would like to drop by this thread to describe what happened on my last trip to Brazil. I found myself in a high-priced clip joint called New Sagitarius in Belo Horizonte last week, chatting with a very sweet spinner. Since there was a barfine involved to take her home to my hotel, I thought it best to negotiate price and terms before leaving. Our conversation went like this:

"How much for all night at my apartment?"
"$200R" ($75US for those who don't do Brazil)
I hesitated before replying "For that price I must be very happy".
"You will be very happy" she replied

We went home and had a great session before falling asleep at 5 am. I awakened at 9:30 to see her getting dressed. "You don't need your clothes now" I said. She just smiled and kept getting dressed. I rolled over and went back to sleep.

"It is time for me to go now" she said as she sat on the bed beside me, fully dressed. Her hair and make-up were done. She looked smokin hot. The thought of her leaving without another session was bringing a lump to my throat, not to mention the lump in my boxers.

"You don't need your clothes now" I repeated. She smiled as she explained that I had asked for TLN (all night), it was now morning and it was time for her to go. Smiling right back at her, I explained that I hadn't asked for TLN so that I could enjoy her company while I SLEPT! Hello!? CLEARLY it was so that we could session again in the morning.

She sweetly explained how she needed to go now, but could return later if I paid her more! Hahaha! Time to END the negotiations.

What would HC1 do...hmmmmm?

"I agreed to pay you $200R for TLN if I was happy. I am not happy that a beautiful girl like you will leave me without another session. You can leave with $100R or stay for just 10 minutes more to earn all of the $200R. It is your choice. Right now I am going to the bathroom. You can tell me your answer when I return. "

The worst side-effect I've encountered from Cialis is the throbbing, engorged morning wood it gives me. Standing a full step back from the commode, I leaned forward and placed another hand on the wall 2 feet above the tank to hold me at a 45 degree angle over the target. Fortunately Brazilians had the forsight to put drains in all the bathroom floors for what doesn't find its way into the bowl. Splashing some cold water on my face, a few drops landed on my member with a sizzling sound like steak on a grill. I was ready for her answer as I returned to the bedroom.

There was no answer to be had. No further discussion. With her clothes neatly folded on the dresser, she was laying there buck nekked and beckoning. The session was every bit as good as last night and maybe even better.

Thanks HombreCito!

You da man! Did you give her taxi fare???

Sandy

Great job G-nomas!

Personally, I alway´s get a verbal agreement for the morning nut when purchasing TLN.

To me, the morning nut is more important than breakfast. It help´s me start the day stress-free and with a big smile:-) sf4dfish

"Standing a full step back from the commode, I leaned forward and placed another hand on the wall 2 feet above the tank to hold me at a 45 degree angle over the target. Fortunately Brazilians had the forsight to put drains in all the bathroom floors for what doesn't find its way into the bowl. Splashing some cold water on my face, a few drops landed on my member with a sizzling sound like steak on a grill. I was ready for her answer as I returned to the bedroom."

He he he... That 45 degree angle problem is a tough one. Been there...

wow! thank you for this post! i am so sure that this still applys today and will work for most countries! every monger at whatever level should read and re-read this! especially those "nice guys" out there! thank you HC1! (and Moondog for pointing this out to me!!!)