Playing With Fire and Got Burned

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By Lovingmarvin on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 12:15 pm:  Edit

Well, fellow mongers.... I got a problem. Over the last few years I have made numerous trips to both Tijuana and Boystown in Nuevo Laredo. I never got emotionally attached...ever, nor did I ever lose sight of the girl's profession, no matter how sweet, beautiful, etc....PLUS the fact that I am married and have a good life - simply wanting a litte uncomplicated side action here and there. On one of my previous trips to Boystown I met a girl in one of the bars. We talked, we fucked, blabla...anyway I got her phone number and the following week upon returning home I decided to give her call. Figured it would be fun to talk and maybe get together for a little one to one in the future. Well, it progressed and we got to the point of talking almost daily. She speaks semi-decent english and I realized that there is much more behind the whore I initially met. In the meantime, the request for money came - first $400.00 for an abortion for her sister who got pregnant by an ex-boyfriend, then subsequent money as she was trying to quit the business and start a legitimate business. $200.00 here, $300.00 there.... I made plans to meet my Mexican friend during a vacation that my wife had planned with her family to recoup some of my funds transfer. I decided to go Tijuana first (see trip report), then headed to meet the girl in Laredo. She has a vistor visa and we eventually spent three nights together in Texas. She is funny, sexy, and well...the thing that was not supposed to happen, happened. My thoughts of only wanting to fuck changed once we were together. From the initial feelings of "lets have the fun", the feelings progressed. After returning home, we continued to talk and already starting plans for our next get together. She told me that she had not returned to boystown in a few weeks because she loved me and wanted to be together with. She started asking if she can come visit me (impossible!!!) for a few weeks or a month - she does not know I am married. My question to everyone - what the hell happened to - what I consider myself to be - a reasonable and sensible guy? Stupid thoughts of wanting to be with this girl go through my mind.... on the other hand the reasonable smart part in me sees the reality of dating a Mexican whore and giving up the life I know.... I tried to break it up over the phone today and we ended up talking for 2 hours. I used the premise of the money as an excuse. She wants to show her love for me and said she wants no more money from me. She would "work" this weekend and send me the money next week to show me how much she loves me and to remove the barrier of the money. Once she has sent the money to me then she wants to get together with me again in person to talk to me thinking that my "love is in my eyes". Does anyone know of any magic medicine that can rescue someone from their own stupidity?????????? My time with wife has been affected, as my thoughts drift to Mexico. What the fuck!! Has anyone been through this before? What the hell makes someone so fucked up..I guess its the power of the pussy!! Please let me know how incredible fucking stupid I am.... maybe if I hear it enough, I will actually start believing it.

By Ixtoc on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 01:17 pm:  Edit

Friend, I can't tell you you're stupid.

Getting emotionally involved is a hazard we all face. Happened to me in Brazil. I spent days with a girl in country, then spent weeks calling her from the states once I returned. Dreamed of marrying her and either moving to Brazil or bringing her here. Sent money, hundreds to her.

Oh yeah, I'm also married with kids I love and would die for. Oops.

My only advice is to cut the relationship with the chica off as soon as possible. Get through the ugly, emotional event. Be firm, consistent and tell her its over. You're going to feel like shit and not want to go through with it. But you have to.

Even IF you were single, the odds are way against a long-term relationship between the two of you working out. You know that.

You're in the irrational, drug-like stage of your relationship with her which doesn't last and clouds your judgement. Recognize that and your heart will give you a break.

You know what you have to do, just suck it up and do it.

Ix

By Explorer8939 on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 02:50 pm:  Edit

1) Wait until you get the $$ before taking the next step.

2) If you don't get the $$, go back to Step 1.

By Porker on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 03:11 pm:  Edit

Maybe you can get your wife a job in Boystown too and DOUBLE your profits!

By Epimetheus on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 03:50 pm:  Edit

Porker

Now THAT'S an idea!!

E

By Mcdijj on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 04:57 pm:  Edit

Porker,
I hate to admit it ... but, I love the way your mind works.

By Tjmac on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:16 pm:  Edit

Come on you guys, Lovingmarvin is tearing up inside right now, and you guys are making a joke out of this. I think it's sad and mean on all of you guys except for Ixtoc, who is giving comfort and helpful advice. Like Drugs, sex and women can make your brain lose control of reality. I think what you should do, Marvin, is try to learn more about her and her past, because as we all know, once they are in this whore lifestyle, they are in the addiction state themself, so it's really imposible for them to break out of this lifestyle. You got to remember that you got a wife and kid. That is more important than anything else right now. Because without them right now, you will be paying up your nose with spouse and child support and not to mention lawyer fees. And when it comes down to it, money rules all evil, and without money, you wouldn't be happy with your newly found whore girlfriend anyway. So my advice to you is to wake up and get a grip of reality. I know that's hard, but you need to try your hardest and be strong, because I do think that it's only a temporary stage of your life. Let me guess, you are in your 40's........ And we all know what that stage of our life is called. Good Luck Marvin and stay focus. Just think of all the losses ( money, wife, kids, face) if you continue in this mode. GET THE HELL OUT!!! while you still have a chance.

By Milkster on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 10:15 pm:  Edit

You learn from your mistakes

number one real of mongering only pay for sessions PERIOD

once you start giving the chica money for operations , dying relatives , kids who needs limbs - you lose - THATS THE FACT JACK !!!!!

Once a working girl starts scamming you she turns from a whore into a cunt.
If she gets what she asks for she is a smart cunt

nothing to do with feelings
Again you learn from your mistakes

Good luck on your future prospects
Milk

By Epimetheus on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 01:36 am:  Edit

Lovingmarvin

This is not the first time something like this has cropped up on this board - hell on ANY board!! We "play" in a way that is, by it's very nature, intimate. We (specifically Americans) tend to lose sight of the "provider" nature and see that GFE as GF material. Millions of men throughout this fine world have done exactly what LM has done - been made stupid by PFP.

It's nothing to be ashamed of. I've known people that have fallen for women in many countries. We've talked about it here (see the TJ SG section regarding Mariana de Morelia) and around the pool in Asia. You might find something relevant in that thread.

When a relationship begins with PFP it's doomed to fail. Granted, there are those "one in a million" stories we all hear of from time to time (girl brought back from a bar to live a happy life with her husband forever) but I'm CERTAIN that 99.9999% end up as smoking ruin. Just ask folks like Blazers that see these ladies in his office filing divorce papers all the time.

Turn off the money and see how long she sticks around. Her dying aunt/mother/brother/water buffalo NEED your money. Guess what - those "folks in need" end up being her boyfriend/pimp who buys more drugs/hookers.

Walk away from this. It hurts like hell, but walk away. Do NOT pass go, do NOT give her $200. Just go straight back to your life or (even better) the next provider!! Enjoy the relative "honesty" of the provider/customer relationship and never vary from it!! Losing sight of this can hurt like hell and make your life VERY confusing!!

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong...

E

By Lovingmarvin on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:12 am:  Edit

Thank you everyone for the support...even those with some less desirable suggestions (Explorer and Porker) :-) Well, I am not quite in my 40's yet (I am 35), but feel like I am going through an early life crisis. Maybe that is the problem. The daily boredom of work and famility, spiked up by a little excitement. Thinking rationally is difficult, even when the facts slap you in the face. My Mexican "girlfriend" called me 3 times on my cell phone yesterday telling me how much she loves me!! She told me that she wants to work in boystown for one more month to make the extra money she needs now that I am not sending her any more money She tells me that she wants to open a store so she does not have to work there anymore. I have heard this story before. Plus she wants to repay me .... interesting twist, even if we did stay together "my girlfriend" would repay my money by fucking other guys. On one hand she tells me that she is used to having alot of money to do what she wants to do and does not want to be supported, then asks me for money and wants to be with me. Pretty confusing! But then again, this also makes sense in a VERY twisted way: I used to see one girl quite regularly in boystown. She likes the money, cocaine (no - i don't do that shit), and lifestyle - and she shows it. Addicted to coke, money, and the lifestyle money gives her. It was fun fucking because she was such a whore, was almost proud of it, and most definitely liked sex! This morning I stood in front of the mirror and had to slap myself a few times... I think it is funny how truth sometimes stares you right in the face, but you make decision despite of the truth. I think I will take the advise and just suck up to the pain and get it over with.... Its pretty difficult when she starts crying (like she did yesterday), then tells me she would do anything for me. I also tried to use the premise of trust as a reason and she told me that she is always home when I call, no matter what time or day - which is true (until this weekend, of course when she returns to her former "job"). She tells me that she needs to work as she cannot live on air...has a mother, father, sisters, cousins, etc to support. I asked her if she could get another job and she said the type of jobs in Mexico pay nothing and would require her to work 7 days a week. When you can make $1000 in just a couple of days that is hard to beat (even in the US). Well, some of this actually true and makes sense! She wants to work for another month to save money and come to be with me. But then again, Epimetheus and Tjmac make a point - what are the chances it will work. Even if it did work, why would I want to trade in an extremely devoted, caring, and loving wife for a Mexican whore? In analyzing all of this, I think it boils down to being with someone new. The initial excitement and new pussy clouds your judgement. My wife is extremely beautiful.... she is from South America (we met in Miami at a friend's party), long hair, 110lbs, 5'8", from a good family without a shady past....beautiful, but we have been together 5 years! It gets boring. Work, daily stress, and the daily routine! I think you can be with Cindy Crawford and after 5 years it would also get boring. The excitement and spark in feelings impact judgement. Well, now how can I get my brain to think? Again, I think to that point I'll just suck it up and go through the pain of breaking up and take away a valuable lesson! Never call a chica again!! I think the problem with mongering is that for the most part the girls are professionals - deal, pay, fuck. Pretty simply transaction. This holds true 90% of the time....but then sometimes get an exception....the one that does not act like a profressional and you get those fucking feelings. I have met them in Costa Rica, Tijuana, and Nuevo Laredo. The difference is that I never followed up on those feelings, because I supposedly knew better. Maybe I need to deal with my early mid-life crisis by buying a corvette :-) Well, I will talk with her again this afternoon. Then I got to figure out a way to explain to my wife why I need to change my cell phone number without telling her that I don't want to get a call again from my "girlfriend" sucking me back in emotionally. Then I guess, it will be time for a six pack..... I only hope that I will be strong enough to go through with it all....

By Batman on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 06:58 am:  Edit

What??? She will work to pay you back??? Oh yeah..translation.."I'll go suck some other guys cock and put the tip of my toungue in the bottom of his nut sack, to show you how much I love you..." Pleeeeeease man...

That's showing you she loves you...ha! You have got to be kidding me...my advise is never, ever fall for a whore..I don't care if they look like Shakira...fact is she is fucking on a daily basis and whom professes to love you is saying it with someone elses sperm on her lips...sorry that does not do it for me..and the line about paying for an bortion for her friend...are you for real???..sorry I did not enjoy fucking your friend, so, why should I have to pay for someone elses enjoyment?

Now the sick mother: How many times have I heard that from pros and non-pros alike. It seems that everyone over the age of 30 in South America needs surgery/ dying of cancer based on requests from chicas. They either have a sick mom, a sister that needs an abortion,
a dog that just giot hit by a car and needs surgery..you name it; I've heard it..fact is you can offer emotional support but definitely not financial..not to a whore at least! A non-pro college educted girl..humm..maybe fi we were really serious.

This is just my 2 cents, my 10 cents is free!

By Ldvee on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 07:19 am:  Edit

Lovingmarvin,

You're in a great situation, you just don't know it. You need to manage your emotions and think this out. Think of her as a mistress, a concubine. Many men have a wife, family, and a fave on the side.

Think of it as a challenge, a new dimension to your life. Don't spend more than you can afford, have a good time, and keep her second.

But, if she knows your real name, where you live, etc. you're gonna have to lose her before she fucks up your straight life.

my 2 cents

By Batster1 on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:50 am:  Edit

Good advice from ldvee,

Keep a real healthy distance between your two lives. Dont let them overlap. Once I got serious with a nice girl, it got to a point where I could not keep up the hobby and not risk screwing up the good thing I have going( I live in TJ with a non working Mexican girl) I now limit my play to out of town trips where there is no chance of going to the movies with my chilangita and running into the ho I screwed last night. And I never ever give them my telephone number.

I sometimes battle the boredom factor also, but it aint worth fucking up your life( if you like it) just to get some strange. I say RUN!!!!

Now if your wife is a fat obnoxious frigid nag, then by all means knock yourself out.

batstergivinghisunsolicitedopinion

By Atomicdog on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:51 am:  Edit

Here's what you need to do:

1) pressure her to pay back the money you sent her. Hell she offered to do it as a sign of her love and you should hold her to it.

2) When/If you get your money back, RUN FOR THE HILLS AND DON'T LOOK BACK!! If you look back you will be turned into a pilar of salt.

3) If she starts making excuses about why she can't pay back the money that she freely offered to pay back...LET HER KNOW THAT YOU SEE THROUGH HER LIES AND DECEPTION!!

4) Look at yourself in the mirror and SMACK YOUR FACE for allowing yourself to think of ever leaving your family for a WHORE!! Even if it's just a fantasy you should be ashamed of yourself.

5) Memorized the "Whores motto"...WHEN YOU MEET A FOOL, BUMP HIS HEAD!!! Say this to yourself every time that you meet a WHORE.

6) LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...and never let me hear of you getting taken by a prostitute again.



If you can't run with the BIG DAWGS, just stay on the porch.

By Lovingmarvin on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:41 pm:  Edit

Thanks everyone... I definitely appreciate the comments and support. I just got off the phone and broke it off under the premise that I love her, but couldn't deal with her past (and present). She cried...cried some more, then said she would fly to ME to show me how much she loves me and wants to be with me!! Shit, that is a scary prospect especially since she does have my real name and cell phone number. Luckily I have unlisted number, but then again anybody can be found especially with the cash she has access to from a weekend whoring. I just sucked it up and went through with it!! Very difficult! .. now I am going to take everyone's advise - while I don't want to emotionally, I'll do it intellectually. Taking Atomic's advise - Just have to keep smacking myself in the head.....Batman's words ring true as well.... just got to keep imagining her sucking someone elses dick and laying on her back getting fucked in my mind to snap back to reality!! I am glad that I am not the only idiot that has ever fallen to the incredible power of the pussy!! Thanks again all for your support. I have a large circle of joint (wife and I) friends, but none close enough (or should I say, I don't comfortable) to share this type of extremely potentially explosive information. Batster - like you said, it just not worth fucking up my life.

By Lovingmarvin on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:44 pm:  Edit

Oh and one more thing....maybe I can now start paying off my "secret" Mastercard used for the Western Union wire transfers :-)

By Epimetheus on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 01:45 pm:  Edit

Once a woman has laid on the bed in "Y" formation for cash they NEVER see sex the same again. God forbid you actually KNOW she was selling her box for bux!!

Looking at it just from a "relationship" POV, it's gonna end badly. If you bring up her past in an argument, you lose. If SHE brings up her past in an argument, (surprise) you lose!! It will sit in the background as long as the two of you are together...

Now, enter the attentive, beautiful wife. You, my friend, indeed have a problem!! Trashing your life for a provider is just not a reasonable option!!

I vaguely remember a show on HBO. Chris Rock was talking about old pussy vs. new pussy. After all the various, humorous comparisons between the two his suggestion was to make the old into new pussy. Change it up. Fuck her in the park, at the beach, in the mountains, in the pool, on the kitchen table 5 minutes before her parents come over for dinner!! Besides, recycling is good for the environment...

Do yourself a favor - stay out of the PI. If girls in Mexico do this to you, Filipinas will own you outright before you even get off the airplane!!

Hope that helps...

E

By Innocent on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 03:56 pm:  Edit

Dear Marvin,

Although I've been on inactive duty for a while now I do have my flying time in.

I think you've gotten mostly great advice from some seasoned veterans.

If I may put a little different spin on it from my experience. I have fallen in love with several of my faves.

Fantasized being down on the rancho lifting up her gauze cotten dress as she straddled me and sat on my cock while handing me a Margarita under a palm thatched canopy surrounded by warm sea breezes.

A fantasy yes, that begins when I approach my lover and ends when I walk out the door. Do, think and feel what ever you want, as long as you leave it in the room.

It may take some practice but I'm sure you can do it.

Yours in Dreaming, Mr. Innocent

By Tjmac on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 12:21 am:  Edit

One more advice to you LovinMarvin, no matter how hurt and difficult it feels right now when you look at yourself in the mirror, it could be worst. Why??? I got one thing to say to you Marvin.......SCOTT LACI !!! Who is feeling worst now huh??? So get out and wake up while you can, Marvin. GOOD LUCK to you my friend.

By Canonperdido on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 06:52 am:  Edit

LM:

I suggest the following. I can certainly understand where you are. I basically agree with most of the CH members here.

You might also want to consider the following:

1. Change your cell phone number, and
2. Quit this board.

I say quit this board because if you are married, and really want to say married, there is just too much temptation here.

I have been married twice. Fooled around on #1, and did not fool around on #2.

It is just too easy to fool around. Being married is not easy.

Myself, I will not be a board member much also. Best of luck to you, and hope things go well for you. It is not easy to extract yourself from this situation, and have things stay cool between you and your wife even if she does not find out.

I know of cases on this board where guys have gone for years without being found out, but somehow the wifey always does. I know you married guys will disagree with me, but it is hard to hobby forever, and the wife not fine out. Even if they cannot identify specifics, they can feel if.

Again, best of luck to you.

CP

PS: I know a lot of you married guys are going to disagree with me, and through a lot of shit at me. Remember, I did not say anything bad about anyone, I was just saying that if LM really wants to stay married, that life has choices. Sometimes we get burned in the candy factory.

By Screamingeagle on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 03:58 pm:  Edit

Canonperdido has a point. If one cannot control his "mid life crisis" he should stay out of the hobby. What is happening to LM happened to me on a bigger scale. I too am married and truly feel like an idiot. I have a Ford model wife who adores me, treats me like gold, and all I do is fall for an abusive latin provider. Not to smart. Thank god I was able to cover my tracks, make more money to cover what I lost and finally ditched the c##t. She calls occasionally to tell me she is out of the business and wants to see me again. What bullshit. I found out later that since I dumped her 2 years ago she is still sucking and f#cking her way into the HO HALL OF FAME. This could happen to anyone of us when we start believing we are smarter than them. Hell I own my own Investment firm, am very successful, have a beautiful wife, and I fall for the same BS that others have fallen for. So LM don't feel bad, you can always make money to pay off the mastercard, but hurting a nice person such as your wife can be very painful to you. You got off lightly. Best of luck. SE
PS Just my 2 cents. I too don't mean to offend anyone.

By Innocent on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 06:24 am:  Edit

SE, question: Why do we do this? We have gorgeous adoring wives and still fuck/want to fuck everything that walks?

By SF_Hombre on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 07:10 am:  Edit

Guys, I don't know...sometimes I think it is as simple as "Sometimes you feel like a nut...sometimes you don't".

To put a twist on a well known proverb: You can take the man away from the itch, but not the itch away from the man (remember the venerable "You can take the girl out of the terma..."?)

Saying no (to hobbying) when almost inside you want to say yes is a toughie...but then again, so's puttin on a condom each and every time

By Lovingmarvin on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 10:35 am:  Edit

Making progress, but still getting messages from her on my cell phone. Trying to keep busy and spend more time with my wife. She is trying to call me late a night to prove to me that she is no longer going to the whorehouse. Crying, etc..pulling out all the stops. Just got to take every day as it comes and deal with the feelings. Aye, when the tears come followed by "I love you", "please try", bla bla.... I respect the feelings that its probably better to get out of the hobby all together, but I just can't. IF, that is the BIG IF, I don't get stupid again and fall in love, then it will actually help me stay married. I find being with one person for the rest of my life very difficult.... Until this shit happened I was quite happy. I love my wife, but still like that new pussy ocassionally. Getting older and thinking that I can never touch that other candy anymore would drive me nuts. Those damn contradictory feelings of wanting a family, the friendship and closeness of a wife, and freedom. In reality, family and wanting the friendship and closeness of a wife takes about 90% of my feelings while 10% consumes the rest. I'll just go with the majority and continue mongering. I appreciate everyone's suggestions, opinions and most importantly support. Its good to know that I am not the only one that has ever come this close to throwing away a good productive life. Not from the perspective that I wish this on anyone else, but from the perspective that I am a normal human being with feelings, not a stupid idiot that has his emotions taken over and totally against better judgement. I learned a valuable lesson, but will have to pay the price by having to go through the emotional pain of a relationship break-up.... Never again - I hope!!!

By Canonperdido on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 12:27 pm:  Edit

LM:

If you hobby too much, a wife can feel it.

Do what you need to know, but understand that they somehow know. I can speak from experience on that one. Wife #1 knew. She did not know who, never found out who, but she knew. After I stopped hobbying, she knew also, and things got better for awhile.

Just be careful man.

CP

By Innocent on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 03:16 pm:  Edit

SF,

You are a fucking mind reader dude...

By Screamingeagle on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 05:59 pm:  Edit

Innocent,
I guess we are A+ type personalities. We work hard and the "game" is everything. I once asked a very successful CEO why he cheated and his response was: Man cannot live on caviar alone he occasionally needs ground beef. The hunt makes me feel young and important. If you look at the animal kingdom, the male species is always trying to impregnate many females to perpetuate the species. Maybe it is imbreed in our DNA. Who knows, the bottom line is getting new pussy is exciting and gives me a high. Just got to remember Moondog's rules and I will be OK. To LOVINGMARVIN just hang in there buddy and realize you are not the first or the last to get burned but in a few months you will consider yourself lucky that you were able to chat to others in the same situation as yourself and that this is just an experience that you went thru in life. SE

By Innocent on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 06:54 am:  Edit

The "game", yes. Reading minds again? I was just thinking about what a fucking game the "hole" thing is the other day.

Type A+, I'd like to think I'm recovering but old habits die hard.

I broke my fast the other day and tried to impregnate three. Well not really impregnate but I did have a good day and jack hammered their
their asses...:-)

By book_guy on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

Good thread.

One wise dude once posted somewhere on the 'net, something along these lines:

Luvv for a provider lasts about as long as her perfume permeates your clothes. If you're still smelling her, even if it's only in your mind, then you need to replace her odor with something else. Axle grease, a good cigar, or the perfume of another provider all tend to serve, given appropriate administration of the tonic.

:-)

My advice isn't so much, "get your head screwed on right," as many others have suggested, in intelligent manners and with some useful (or not-so-useful) specifics. My advice is, "get your OTHER head screwed right." The only way I've personally ever effectively moved on from one thing, is to have some other thing to move on TO.

I'd also suggest starting to "take charge" of your emotions. I know, in your situation the following will sound like a ridiculous impossibility, but try to do it anyway: PICK what you feel, PICK whom you do or don't fall in love with, PICK where your heart goes, PICK what emotional states you are in, PICK how the world makes you respond. Your emotions are (believe it or not) proactive choices on your part. Easy to say, hard to do. But once you're the man who lives his life from the inside, rather than letting the outside world tell him how to feel about it (and the women in it), THEN and ONLY THEN are you free to TRULY LOVE your fellow man (and woman).

Getting the gist of that last paragraph -- and actually DOING it -- is probably a lifelong journey for most of us. I know it probably is for me, but just KNOWING that the concept exists is such a liberating experience that I'd NEVER willingly go back to how I felt about things BEFORE I had heard and digested it.

By book_guy on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 05:28 pm:  Edit

PS -- I "figured out" that concept just about at your age, and I'm only a few years older than you report (you said you were 35 y.o.?), so maybe it's a middle-thirties sort of thing.

By Dogster on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:52 pm:  Edit

excellent post, BG. I'm gonna have to remember to buy some axle grease.

By Flyrod on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 12:06 pm:  Edit

Some very good points made here. Especially the observations of Canonperdido. IMHO, a married man should take into consideration what he stands to lose if caught or contracts an STD. And, he should bear in mind the intuitive nature of a woman. She WILL know eventually. My Dad's advice on that was to quote an old German proverb; The crock goes to the well until it gets broken. My best to you LM. Hope it all goes well....
Flyrod

By Lovingmarvin on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 10:20 am:  Edit

Just wanted to give everyone a quick update - I finally was able to break it off. She was very persistant. Everytime I found a reason she found a solution, plus crying, etc, etc. Finally just told her that a long distance relationship just does not work for me and that I was not ready to make a commitment. She continued to ask me if it was another woman, which I denied. A couple of times she told me that she wanted me to break-up in person and was actually going to fly to the city I live (she has a visa). Very scary - so my approach was careful and targeted towards keeping her pissed off factor to a minimum. So far it seems to work. She still calls me occassionally, but I have not changed my decision. My nightmare is that she will show up on my doorstep one day! I am sure my wife would just love that! Moving it towards a friend relationship seems to be the best approach....I hope I am right!

By Senor Pauncho on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 08:12 pm:  Edit

Maybe instead of "moving it towards a friend..." you should just move !

By Ixtoc on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 03:23 pm:  Edit

So LM:

How did this story end. Is it completly over with the Mexican chica? Did you change your cell number? Has she called or showed up at your door?

Hoping everything turned out well,

Ixtoc

By Lovingmarvin on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 12:41 pm:  Edit

Ixtoc - Sorry just got to checking this e-mail chain again - What ended up happening is that she is still my "girlfriend". I broke up with her and she called me back crying. I gave in & subsequently broke up a couple more times since then....each time she called me again and begged me to come back. She now is the best girlfriend in the world as I have "trained her". I.e. don't ask for money (reason for break-up), don't expect calls on the weekend (get pissed & I break-up), etc. I have met her twice since then. Quite an odd & hard to believe story. One of my closest friends didn't believe it and I conferenced him in on a couple of calls. Typically I call her three times a week. Fortunately she has not yet shown up at my door. She tells me that she loves me and would do anything for me. Will see her again in the beginning of January. it just proves my old theory about how you can attract some women - the more attentive you are the more distant they become, the less attentive the more they want you. Of course this does not apply to all women, but certainly this one.

By Alecjamer on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 07:48 pm:  Edit

Oh man! I just read this whole string and I am absolutely shitting! Literally, I've been exercising my Kegal muscle because the last string I read said it will give me better sexual stamina. Then as I read this string...I nearly shit my pants. You guys are just too damn fun!

LM - You do whatever makes you happy. It is is simple as that. However, I got a real kick in the pants as I read this string thinking you were reversing your direction and right at the end you told everyone to go fuck themselves! You still went back for the whore! I love it! Nothing more fulfilling than a damn near impossible challenge. Hey, maybe you can make the whore pregnant! (Yep, I'm always thinking.)

LM - At 35 you are a big boy...you know the penalty you will pay if you get caught...potentially lose wife, kids, house...maybe half of all you got and damn near half of everything you'll ever get...can get pretty ugly. But, maybe this life experience is worth it to you, or maybe later you will regret it...could easily go either way. But, you must be the one to decide. And one day you will die, and hopefully when you die you will feel your life was completely fulfilled with no regrets.

From what I've read and seen, you think the risk is worth it. So do it, and manage it the best you can. I hope it works for you.

And to the other mongerers out there that think LM can't have it both ways because you still think daddy is the only one who fucked your mom.

Meet the mail man!



ciao,

AlecJamer

By Lovingmarvin on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 07:53 am:  Edit

Well, so far I have my cake and can eat it too. Latest status as of today, however, I once again broke up. She finally did the biggest NO NO - Ask for money ("If you don't send me money, I have to go to the whore house" - My response - "Sorry, no dinero - Go"). Reason for break-up.

Actually all this crap is not worth the ultimate penalty if I get caught - i.e. losing my marriage & life that I know - but the little guy down there took over a few times. The nice thing is that at this point I have long gotten over that initial being with some new crush (from a relationship perspective, not from fucking which there is plenty of).

I think all of us monger's are making decision along the way that have the potential for a very ugly downside! Getting caught (From a relationship & disease perspective) are always a possibility. So why do we do it? Well, I think we always believe it will not happen to us.... I guess we are addicted gamblers!

Quite honestly it is now getting boring being into this one year, which is why you are seeing the big change from the initial e-mails to now. We'll see. At this time I am ready to move on and put this behind me. If she calls me again, however, this might change direction rapidly.

By Awake168 on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 07:41 pm:  Edit

Ohh LovingMarvin,

Its funny how one can build a fantasy so easily. I am now, as you may recall from the time we met in NL, thinking along the same lines about the young girl Blanca. Not only is there the lure of the new and exotic pussy, but there is something romantic, crazy word, I know when it comes to BT whores, but there is something romantic about the idea of rescuing a girl from such an existance. I say that as I contemplate driving back over to NL tommorrow.
From our discussion we had in BT on Friday I didnt know that your deal was this serious. So I consider myself forwarned, not that that will do any good, after all I am an idiotic man like yourself.

email sometime if you like. geoff1068@yahoo.com

By Lovingmarvin on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:58 am:  Edit

Sorry, I have not checked my messages in awhile. Just spent the last month moving. I just sent you an e-mail.


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