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I am Sancho, cool off. No one is trying to be PC liberal. People are just pointing out to you that Asian is a pretty broad word; there are about 20 countries with very distinctly different cultures that fall under the rubric. You may not intend to, but when you write it appears that you are grouping them all into one culture.

If you mean Isaan and Lao girls, then stick with that term, don't use Asian. I've seen several guys with Mexican heritage on this board over time get a little ticked off when people make some sweeping statements about Mexicans and Mexican women in general. In a similar vein, just remember that some guys on this board have Asian heritage, from countries with cultures that aren't remotely close to being like Isaan and Lao, nor do the women behave remotely close like the women of those two regions.

That's what's being pointed out man.

White dudes do not have such sensitive feelings. You can criticize white dudes in general all you want and if it is not directed directly at me I could care less. That is another cultural difference. White dudes see themselves as individuals, not part of a racial group. If someone says all Europeans are a bunch of pussies I would be inclined to agree with them without ever even considering for a second that that statement included me. Seriously, some cultures have much more sensitive feelings and much less individuality than us white guys. Be yourself, who you are personally, instead of "an Asian American" part of a labeled group. An insult against Europeans or the white race would not even cause me to flinch unless it was intentionally directed at me on a personal level. I have no such insecurity.

And if you read what I wrote, I said "Lao and Isan Thai" many times before I referenced it with the shortened phrase "Asian women". Yes I know Asia is a big continent of many cultures.

Otrohombre, I prefer women with at least 3 holes suitable for penile insertion. I also prefer that these holes be naturally occurring. That is my preference in women.

Seriously, I love and hate all women.

Asian women sexually turn me on the most. I find them the most sensually arousing but as I have mentioned some of them have serious flaws. I still really love them though.

Latin American women (non whore ones) seem the most good hearted, loving type of girl you would want to marry. Happy with there life, appreciative of what they have. But to me not the most sexually attractive or sensual. Just my opinion. Others would disagree.

White girls are psycho. But much more likely to go for really off the wall kinky weird sex though. Some things sexually you can get from a really psycho white girl that a Mexican or Asian couldn't even grasp the concept.

Thank you Murasaki for your very rational post. I agree entirely with your earlier post about Asian-Caucasian marriages. BTW, I do no oppose cross cultural/race marriages as long as the two people are in love and compatible.

Milky, I can see you are trying to put off the flames.

Sancho, please don't try to label me as a PC liberal. What I am saying is that sometimes people's(not yours) viewpoint can be very limited. It's like a blind guy standing at an elephants ass feeling up it's tail and says :"Now I know, an elephant is just like a rope!" We have to see the broader picture. It's like confusing a Russian with an American(they're all white!), or a Jamaican with an African American.

Also it's not like it's a one way street with women from one place exploiting guys. There are also guys who exploit women too.

Sancho(BTW is that a Mexican name?), I'm glad to hear Asian women turn you on the most. I like them too as with many other races.

Caucasians don't have to get so offended by racist terms because they control the media. With all these caucasian movie stars, pop idols, newsmakers and shakers, there's a halo on caucasians, what's a few gossips here and there?

-Dick

(Message edited by Dickjohnson on June 22, 2003)

(Message edited by Dickjohnson on June 22, 2003)

"Caucasians don't have to get so offended by racist terms because they control the media. With all these caucasian movie stars, pop idols, newsmakers and shakers, there's a halo on caucasians, what's a few gossips here and there?"

If I was worried about racial statements that would top the list. (but being white, I could care less) Plain and simple White guys are not offended by statements disparaging "our race" or "our people" because we see ourselves as individuals and not part of a racial group. We evaluate each statement on actual intent and see if it is aimed at us personally. Besides how dare you lump me in the same group with the fools that run the media. Everyone knows that Jews run the media anyway.

I chose the name Sancho because this being a Mexican themed board, that is what the Mexican guys I hang out with jokingly called me based on the face I have slept with a number of married women. It is a Mexican joke but I am as white as white could be. I have been thinking of changing that name though because I am no longer messing with married women.

I am not even a racist. I love Asian people. I an great friends with the Lao crowd. I eat there Pa Dek, chicken feet, green papaya and rotten fish salad and other stuff I don't even know what the hell it is. I am great friends with the Mexicans. (Mexicans I know hate Lao) I have been in places in the past where my actually life depended on making friends with Mexican gang members and I thrived and prospered in that environment as well. Where I work right now The Lao effectively have 100 percent control of the company. Either directly or because the one of the scamming girls controls the VP of the company with her pussy. I thrive in that environment too even though 90 percent of everything spoken around is not even in a language I understand and I am seriously in the minority at work. I thrive there.

The topic of this thread was girls that make guys fall in love with them and scam them. I listed some examples that I see on a daily basis. I issued a warning that this happens, I know because I see it every day. Some people got overly sensitive because I was not specific enough about which nationality I talked about. I think it was clear who I was talking about but some Political correctness police just don't like my choice of words. I don't care. I will restate my point and blanket apply it to all women of all cultures. Here goes. If you fall in love with a woman (Asian or otherwise) that you met in a whore bar, or met in a chat room. You can not possibly know this person until you have seen them in there real daily life for an extended period of time. Women of all cultures can be masters of creating illusion. If you are in a position of not being able to know the girl then you would be a fool to send large amounts of money or expensive gifts since you have no way of knowing how the girl is. I see "Lao Lum and Isan Thai girls that have lived in America from 3 to 10 years" (is that specific enough) do it all the time but it could be anyone. Allot of guys expect to fly overseas, marry some beautiful girl they barely met or only know from long distance phone calls a few visits and some letters, e-mails and chat sessions. This can often be a recipe for disaster. I think to have good odds of getting a good women like that you would have to spend a good deal of time living around the girl, in her environment. Otherwise you roll the dice. Me I prefer mongering because it avoids all these pesky problems.

In the future I shall continue to be offensive to people of all races and especially to those of the politically correct persuasion. I am unrepentant. But there are few people that love foreign cultures of all nationalities more than me. My viewpoint is one of the least limited of anyone I know. I just refuse to tiptoe through each sentence consciously evaluating each word to see if it is in line with political correctness standards. I could round up 10 Asian guys that would agree with the blanket statement "Asian girls are evil" But they love 'em as much as I do.

This thread has drifted way off topic.

You're the one getting overly sensitive.

Political correctness just really gets under my skin. Thats all.

HEY! You wanna insult me, that's OK.

But you leave my dog and my pick up truck out of it, understand??

People have to also remember something. You gotta be careful no matter what situation you are in when it comes to money. People are scammed everyday in Rio. And not just by working girls. I wouldn't give $3,000 to a close friend that I didn't think had a shot at paying me back.

I know this dude and I feel sorry for him. Especially because there are feelings involved. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you have the money to spare, won't miss it, want to help a girl (or anyone else for that matter), it makes you feel good, and most importantly, do NOT expect anything in return then you should do it.

I hate hearing about people getting scammed wherever they are but when it comes to relationships it's even tougher. But always remember that REAL relationships take a lot of hard work and time. A regular relationship is tough enough but factor in the language barriers, cultural differences, distance, and how you met and that increases it 100 fold.

I'm one of those that always was really warning guys against relationships with girls you met this way. Odds are most relationships won't work in the long term. I'm not saying it's impossible. It is possible for things to work out. Possible but not probable.

Remember if you are in a real relationship with a girl you met this way you have to make the relationship totally NOT about money. If the girl has true feelings for you she won't ask you for money. If you want to help her then do it. If you think you're money is helping her get off the program you need to think differently. The chica has to want to help herself and get off the program for herself.

Hopefully people learn from this guy's experience. Good luck all.

That was my point too before it got drawn off course by the whole "Asian Girl" issue. Just last week the Swedish guy finally realize he has been taken by the ISAN THAI AMERICAN IMMIGRANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE NONG KHAI PROVENCE OF THAILAND WHO'S CULTURE SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH WOMEN OF ANY OF THE MANY OTHER RICH CULTURES THAT EXIST ON THE ASIAN CONTINENT THAT ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH SHE IS AN ASIAN WOMAN. This guy took out a bank loan for the $5,000 which he is still making payments for. He was planing to move from Sweden to the San Diego because he planned to marry this ISAN THAI AMERICAN IMIGRANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE NONG KHAI PROVENCE OF THAILAND WHO'S CULTURE SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH WOMEN OF ANY OF THE MANY OTHER RICH CULTURES THAT EXIST ON THE ASIAN CONTINENT THAT ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH SHE IS AN ASIAN WOMAN, and he knew she would not leave her family in San Diego so he was planning to move here and marry her. He also sent her many gifts. Flowers many times, jeweler, designer hand bags. He was in love head over heals, wanted to spend his life with this girl. She blew his $5000 in one night up at Viejas casino. Got the wire transfer and that very day after work went to the casino and lost it all. Swedish guy thought that by giving her that $5000 he was removing the last obstacle to her leaving her husband and marrying him. The emotional pain was probably greater than the financial pain. I have the phone in the office so I take his calls 5 times a day asking for her. She has me tell him she is busy and she wont take his calls. It really sucks even being around it. And that is only one case. She has another one on the line already and is reeling him in.

After reading your posts, I think all asian women are cunts.

Thank you for your unbias reports on ASIAN WOMEN.

I didn't say that either Just some of them are really bad, and it is really hard to tell which are good and which are bad if you haven't spent allot of time around them. The bad ones can seem very sweet and innocent. For all my bad mouthing, I really do love Asian women. I just watch my back when I am around them. They are so sweet to me. It amazes me how they can be so sweet one moment and so cold and evil the next. They are very good friends to me. I just keep it in the proper perspective.

"White guys are not offended by statements disparaging "our race" or "our people" because we see ourselves as individuals and not part of a racial group."

It used to be that way for most everyone in this country until the PC crowd found money and votes in making people feel distinct and inferior to their next door neighbor.

"...ISAN THAI AMERICAN IMMIGRANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE NONG KHAI PROVENCE OF THAILAND WHO'S CULTURE SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH WOMEN OF ANY OF THE MANY OTHER RICH CULTURES THAT EXIST ON THE ASIAN CONTINENT THAT ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH SHE IS AN ASIAN WOMAN..."

Haha. Nice try but it probably won't fly now that everyone knows you are white.

I know. Now I have shown my racial insensitivity to the fine people of the Nong Khai provence of Thailand. I guess I am just a hopeless racist. Can anyone recommend good racial sensitivity training classes?

I just read this fine thread from start to feenish, and am laughing my proverbial ass off.

Milkster---OK, maybe now I know what the fuck you were blathering about I mean referring to in the Chat Room this evening.

Sancho---do you own a flashlight? How about a spell checker? A condom? In some ways, you sound like the racially re-programmed re-incarnation of a legendary Mexico-based monger. Aske I-am-Sancho!!!! (You probably have no idea what I'm talking about)

At least we have Godfather here to keep everything sane and in perspective, and to not be confused by anything humorous.

Speaking of PC liberals, I am about to buy a PC.

Sancho,

I was kidding about "Thank you for your unbiased reports on ASIAN WOMEN".

Your objective of informing and warning us about scams was well received and appreciated by most on this board.

You have a few PC people everywhere who try to make a big fuckin deal about nothing.

I don't really find you racist; except for the fact you like Latina and Asian women more than whities. That is not racist really; it just means you have good taste.

Speaking of good taste, did I ever compliment you on your behavior at the last Fiesta?

In general, I don't think it is too difficult to see a scam attempt. The problem is when horomones, emotions, love, lust, and all of that get in the way and blind the shit out of one from seeing OBVIOUS signs... My recommendation is that anyone interested in this sort of thing talk it over with at least several people that have experience specifically about what is happening in detail... and then draw some conclusions.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever received was, "Do not go into a relationship from an emotionally needy place..." The stories mentioned above... the guys are clearly entering from this standpoint, and it makes scamming them trivial.

There are all kinds of scams out there... this is just one of them. I think women that scam are in the super minority of scams in general. I live in Rio. I see and avoid them every day.

These types of scam are pulled off by whores from around the world. Guys of different races, including Asians, gets tricked.

Godfather did say it well. And Bullwinkle, as always, the good writer.

Sancho, those *itches you work with are most certainly whore-incarnates(ex-whores cleansed after leaving their past). I hope you fuck them good and the food they bring you is good and has no poison. That's a terrible thing they are doing and I'm glad you pointed it out. I've travelled all over Asia and can tell you even within the same country people can be very different. It would be wrong to base your viewpoints on your dysfunctional top secret satellite Laotian sweatshop.

Unless I've mistaken, overall Asian have the highest income, lowest crime rate, highest academic performers in USA.

There are Asians I don't like, the wanna be young ganstas, the loud fresh off the boats from a certain countries. But by and large Asians are tax payers. And there are tens of thousands of them working in Silicon Valley, Boeing or Nasa. Or studying at Princeton or Berkley.

It would be wrong to base one's opinions of whites from living in Hickstown USA. Who would base their opinions of whites from watching Jerry Springer?

If Asian women are evil(or at least the ones you know), why do you still love them the most lol? I just wanna know.

As to your earlier question challenging me to fall in love with a Thai whore, believe what she says... I've been there done that. 3 years ago. Crashed and burned. But before that, I was flying. I don't regret it. She looked like Kelly Hu and her pussy was tight.

-Dick

Dick johnson

I'd sure be willing to crash-and-burn for a Kelly Hu look-a-like w/ a tight pussy!! Which bar does she work in...? heheh

E

I still see her now and then. She never works in bars. When I first met her she was with some friends and it did not appear to me that she was a working girl. It was love/lust at first sight and after a coupla days together I had no interest in any other Thai girl. I went to Japan next and wondered "what am I doing in Japan when I could have stayed in Thailand."

Good try, Epimetheus.

-DJ

I was playing Pai-Gow with a couple of Thai chicks one Sunday afternoon at Viejas back in January. I didn't think they were particularly bright but then again, I practically live in casinos and I've rarely seen any oriental person win money at a casino. I have seen many lose a lot. Nice to know that they're being subsidized.

Why is it that in East Asia, they call themselves oriental people but here, they want to call themselves Asian? I've never figured this out. I must have missed the memo from the Hangul Broadcast Network that my girlfriends all get their gossip from.

Catocony :
"Why is it that in East Asia, they call themselves oriental people but here, they want to call themselves Asian? I've never figured this out."

No Asians use that word here or abroad.
I bet two things a)You've never been to Asia
b) You never went to college.

In Vegas there are some Thai, some are ex wives of some US guys, and some are ex bar girls. Most of them are not the upper class Thais, who can be quite rich.

The average income of a Thai is 3-5 times that of a Laotian or Cambodian. And it is one fifth of Japan or Singapore. 3-4 years ago it was one tenth and one tenth respectively which means Laos Cambodia makes one one hundredth of what a Japanese or Singaporean makes.

Epimetheus, she is not in Thailand anymore.

-Dick

DJ,

1, I have a B.S., an M.S. and a PhD.

2, I lived in Korea for over a year.

3, I have spent quite a bit of time in Korea, Japan (main islands plus Okinawa), Hong Kong, Thailand, the P.I. and Indonesia.

4, I date Korean women almost exclusively and have a very good understanding of the culture, about as well as any round eye yankee could.

5, I have heard more than one argument between FOBs (new arrivals) and bananas (yellow on the outside, white on the inside, i.e. people who have Westernized by either having moved to the US a long time ago or being born here) over the use of many words to describe who they are and what they are as a people.

You just lost your bet, Dick.

"oriental"
"No Asians use that word here or abroad."

I personally know several Lao gang members in south San Diego that have "Oriental Mafia" tattooed prominently across there backs or stomachs. Nice guys if you get to know them. Sure they do an occasional drive bye shooting every once in a while but the usually don't actually hit anything.

I agree most Asians don't use the term Oriental but I don't personally know any Asians that are offended by the term either. It seems to drive the political correctness police crazy though. Even worse than calling an ISAN THAI AMERICAN IMMIGRANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE NONG KHAI PROVENCE OF THAILAND an "Asian woman".

I guess I will never get this politically correct cultural sensitivity thing. I will just have to stick to my narrow minded mentality of just getting to know people in life by trial and error. I really do love Oriental people though.

(Message edited by I_am_Sancho on June 25, 2003)

As one of my Korean girlfriends once said to a Korean-American who kept correcting her word usage, "oriental people come from Asia". That summed it up nicely for me.

Oriental means eastern. I'm western. It's not an insult.

The dogs and the cats seem to have all the brains around here.

Some fun stuff from I am Sancho that I will remember:

"If I was worried about racial statements that would top the list. (but being white, I could care less) Plain and simple White guys are not offended by statements disparaging "our race" or "our people" because we see ourselves as individuals and not part of a racial group. We evaluate each statement on actual intent and see if it is aimed at us personally. Besides how dare you lump me in the same group with the fools that run the media. Everyone knows that Jews run the media anyway."

LOL. Oy vey. ... and...

"In the future I shall continue to be offensive to people of all races and especially to those of the politically correct persuasion. I am unrepentant. But there are few people that love foreign cultures of all nationalities more than me. My viewpoint is one of the least limited of anyone I know. I just refuse to tiptoe through each sentence consciously evaluating each word to see if it is in line with political correctness standards."

Here, here.

Sancho, when you aren't screwing other people's wives, you ougtta find your way over to the KILL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION thread. I'm not sure where you'll fall on that issue, but get your ass over there pronto.

Yours in whoring,
Dogster

Sancho, you don't always have to repeat the two ISAN THAI AMERICAN IMMIGRANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE NONG KHAI PROVENCE OF THAILAND, you can just say "these two" girls after you have established where they are from.

The Thai whores have a reputation for practicing these scams. But getting money and lying and sleeping around... these scams have been practiced by whores from Brazil, Argentina, etc. Probably in the US too just that most of us are not mongering in US, it is for high rollers with major bucks. One of the most successful must be Anna Nicole Smith, marrying that 90 yr old oil tycoon, at the end making off with 'only' 88 million $. It's not a race issue, it's a whore issue.

Sancho, if you go back to my first post on this thread, I didn't attack you on political correctness-I myself am not always politically correct. I do not believe you are a racist, I myself was critical of Mexicans when I was in love with one.

Catocony, not sure about your MS, PhD, but you may have a B.S.

I have said before on this board only a few weeks ago in Chat that there are great people and bad people in every race.

To be quite frank, some(not all) of the US borned Asians bug me. They know Eminem but not any Japanese/Chinese/fill in the blanks traditional values.

-Dick

Let me tell you guys another thing. Once a girl from a country I would not name(starts with J) dated me and lied to and misled me. Fucked me up. After that I blew away a good girl(also Asian) who was crazy about me. Later I got to know better to know the 2nd girl better. I realized what a mistake I've made, by then she had a boyfriend already.

But why should I tell you guys this?

-DJ

(Message edited by Dickjohnson on June 26, 2003)