Catocony, I wholeheartedly agree. The most prolific flamer seems to be KidCisco and he has never contributed a trip report, which isnt a huge deal until you examine his flames and they are short of substance and heavy on personal attacks. Not the sort of thing that encourages discussion.

Can we please ban Bullwinkle? And of course Hemp. That bastard.

Hombre, and all the other guys on here I really wanted to stay off this post, but like all the other post I never respond unless someone call me out 1st, in this case it was GCL.

I never been the type to sugar coat anything or walk on egg shells I have gain respect on here to some for telling it like it is, those that know me off this site knows I am the same way in life I don't bite my tongue on anything I am not a two face person, a person knows were I am coming from.

Thanks: DICK JOHNSON,BLAZERS,I AM SANCHO,STERLING,BADSEED,MILKMAN. most of these guys I have got into flames wars over the past few months and I respect them for taking it like a man (flames) whenever someone can dish it out and take it they will always gain my respect.

I never been the type of person growing up that ran to my parents telling on my brother or sister,I also never been the type to run to the schoool teacher on a fellow student, I also never been the type to run to my Company Commdander in all the years in the Navy on fellow sailors, I also never ran to my boss telling on other co-workers.

And last I never reported or complain to Hombre on any guys on this site either.

As you can see what one does as a child or kid can carry out in behaviors as a adult person. I wonder how long it would take for one of the Adult grown man on here to call out another Adult male name on here.

I wasn't surprise to see who called and scream the name KidCisco it was GCL if anyone look back at anything I have said in the past I responded to attacks the same way I was raised I never were the school yard bully, BUT no one took my milk money either or dare to take my lunch money they would soon learned they would be in a war, I never started anything but I never ran away from anything either, I always stood up for myself.

It seems that to GCL and others can take shots at me but when I respond then its a problem, when I come back with a flame and act just as immature as they want to act then the TACTICS change and then the SUPERIORITY tactic take place and then GCL try to take the high road and says I am wrong and that I give out personal attacks and I need to take some pills,lol


Here the true, I haven't wrote one single trip report and others haven't either, a trip report isn't a requirement when I last check to be a memeber of this site?

When you have GCL and others always question my English skills or writing skills on a post why should I or any other member take the time to write a report ONLY to have it tear apart on their writing skills.

It doesn't matter to me because I have very very thick skin, I always tell guys if you can't understand what I write PLEASE page down or skip down to the next post but the same ones STILL comment on my writing skills? doesn't make sense to me, to keep reading a post day after day week after week month after month and keep saying you can't understand the poster writing skills? (simple move and skip over the post when you see the name KidCisco).

I take my hat off and I give much respect to all the guys that I have got into flame wars with for taking it like a man and not calling my name out I guess some can dish it out but can't take it.

With over 15 years of living and travel in the Navy and many years living around the world I could write reports on about 90% of the places on this site (I have wrote reports in the past on other Male travel websites) but most of the things have already been writing on, if I see something thats on a report that I could add or comment on I try to comment on the subject not the person, but I can always count on certain guys to come out with some immature comment and complain about my English skills.

Trust me my english skills have never kept me from making a good living I been working since I was 15 years old and owned my own bussiness I have a few homes around the word, with that said I have done really well for myself I don't have a problem counting my bank statements, I can return and fly in and out of the USA without any problems of fear of being stop on warrents, I can hold my head up and feel good about how I earn a living without having to step low to become a (con-artist,run scrams,flim-flams) or making my living off a 18 year old girls that have to lay on her back to feed her family.

My writing skills aren't the best but I don't have to stir guys to 18 year old hookers either.

It been brought to my attention I need to pay more attention and not come off so strong on my comments on here (I will watch that) but guys need to know I don't start flames wars but please don't expect me to have you attack me with any of your immature attacks without a response, remember I can take it, some of you can't I would love for things to remind as the are.

I only know how to be KidCisco, and many guys on here have e-mail me and others have post that they respect guys like me for telling it like it is, and telling the truth not all posters are the same if all the post on here was the same most of the guys would fall asleep, some like different styles the same way some like different girls (blondes/tan/skinny/fat/big tits/big butts) etc.

I never kiss anyone ass in my life, but I also don't mean to disrespect anyone either as long as they respect me.

After all this is a ADULT MALE SITE with grown up man, my vote is to keep things the way they are if a man can't eat the dish he should serve the dish (and other words if a man can't take it don't dish it out).

I would love for things to stay the way they are for one I would stop posting all together if I can't be myself and if there are to many rules, and just come on this site to just look at the pictures, this should make GCL and some of the others happy that would love for things to stay in the dark, and not bring up subjects they don't want discuss on here (that would hurt the pocket books).

If anything the policy should be if a (change is needed) if a person launch a attack (flame) or jump in a flame they need to be willing to take it the response like a man and not when things get (HOT) you ready to run to tell Hombre crying like a baby be a man and take it or next time stay out of a flame war.

The way to look at this is like a basketball game the player that get called for the foul is always the second player, the refs catch responding to the 1st foul.

Look back at any past post some guys like GCL will attack me not on the issue or the subject matter but then when I respond to him back then theres a problem? attack the subject matter I have no problem, but if you choose to attack me be willing to take it like a grown man, if not back off it want be a problem.

I think a lot of this came to a boiling point over the guide issue:

This could turn out to be a good thing if something could be done about the promotion and FREE advestment of guides on this site if a grown man want to spend his mone on a guide I don't have a issue with it, or how someone spend his money.

But, when I talk to my INTEL's in RIO and when I visit Rio, or when I get e-mails from girls I have known for years or some I knew when they were kids, I knew a lot of their Mothers or sisters and to hear them crying on the phone telling me about some of the things they had to do to some of these guides in order to get guys stir their way or to get their phone number place on a cellphone speed dial make me sick and I find it to be very disgusting and disturbing.

When every 8 out of 10 newbie trip report starts off with I used a certain guide service for airport pick-up etc. and to find girls you can see why I got sick and wanted to place the question on the post why a person would need to pay for a guide with all the FREE info on this site.( I wasn't trying to called anyone by name dumb) I wanted to start to openly give a different point of view on the guide issue.

I stated the question like that without going into all the reasons I knew at the time (of what some of the guides were doing to the girls), I knew it wouldn't take long before the gang
that works for or use certain guides would gang up and launch their plan of attack on me, I notice whenever someone question cost or question anything about guides the same ones come out the woodworks and launch their gang attack on the person, I didn't care about that I am used to attacks all the time but its ok for them to promote guides but, if someone question anything about a guide then its a BIG problem.

Maybe Hombre in the furture if a trip report says I used a guide service (MAYBE HAVE THE POSTER STATE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE GUIDE SERVICE E-MAIL ME IN MY INBOX).

I hate to think newbies/rookies on here think that a certain guide that guys promote works for Clubhomre and its ok for them to used that certain guide.

Maybe have guides take out ad space like any other bussiness.

I know this isn't what some guys on here would like to hear or would like to happen after all they been getting free advesterment for all these months for free, but me and other members would sleep a lot better at night knowing we didn't keep throwing more and more girls to service some of these guides sick hungry.

Once again I wouldn't have used GCL name 1st but after he open the door, and called me out I return him the favor, like I have done when the other flame wars got started, I WOULD NEVER called him out if he hadn't call me out 1st.

GCL you called me out fine, I don't have anything to hide can you say the same? why don't you let everyone know what type of interest you have in this guide bussiness in RIO maybe they will know why you are so fast to come to the aide whenever someone says anything bad about a certain guide at least be honest about it and the reason you react the way you do.

If you don't have anything to hide GCL how much money do you have to take to the girl family the one that died at the 4X4 termas her name was "Cassie" how much have you collected so far from the good memebers of Clubhombre?

Guys gave you and sent you their money base on the S.A. message thread base on the fact you was going to set something up for Cassie 7 year old daughter remmember?

I haven't post a trip report maybe you could post how much you have collected so far from the members of clubhombre that trust you with their hard earn money.

I know you love to used tactics and try to speak and a superiority way or talk about my English skills or talk about I haven't wrote a trip report, or you will try to throw the subject off the real issue but this time just answer the question (stay on the subject and the issue) guys sent you their money in good faith.

Hombre, and guys I am not prefect but I do have clean hands, I may at times get out of control and use foul language maybe it all the years in the Navy I don't know, I don't try to be a jerk I know I have help many guys with some of my views and advice base on my life experience, I have a lot of passion when it comes to certain issues.

Sbonx77, and others have took my advice and took trips alone and had a great, the reason I mention Sbonx77, I check with him and he said, it was ok to used his name, and he was glad to recieve my advice.

A lot of guys that I have had flame wars with in the past are now my e-mail buddies, guys that I get into (flame) wars with like Dick Johnson and others I am sure they move on and don't think about it, and take it like a man and move past it.

Now, Otrohombre somethings that you feel that is of values to you might not be what others feel of value to them who will be the judge of what is of value?

To end this Hombre maybe there should be a section were there are no rules, no hold bars,a free for all (subjects,issues, nothing will be off limits if a person agree to enter the section (there should be no crying back to Hombre) anyone interested? or just keep it the way it is.

KidCisco

At least KC is trying here.

He isn't trying that hard. He admits he has never written a single trip report, and has never contributed anything of value on topic. Why is that?

Yawn...

I 2nd the Yawn.

I proposed that anyone who yawns on a thread get his posting privileges revoked. What kind of an asshat would post such a useless comment, as opposed to moving on to something he finds interest?

Did everyone enjoy Kid's soliloquy? Poor baby.... he's so misunderstood.

KC writes
"MILKMAN. most of these guys I have got into flames wars over the past few months and I respect them for taking it like a man"

I always take it like a man no matter how sore my butt feels in the morning

Milkman:

What a man! Congratulations.

OH

You see what I am talking about Hombre and guys now I haven't said, anything about "Aldaron" have I? please check did I use any foul langauge this time? on this post please take a look.

But then when I say something or comment about his remarks to me then I am the bad guy or I am the guy that make the personal attacks. lol

Here we go Aldaron, you are the babyI didn't have to pay another man to hold my hand in Rio, seem like you are the one thats is the BIG baby.

Now, I could go on and on and really get ugly with this little clown but, he just made my point I didn't say anything to this immature fool but then when I put the HEAT on his ass he ready to cry and say I AM PERSONAL ATTACKING HIM what a joke.

This what I been talking about clowns like him can dish it out but, they can't take it, I understand and watch clowns like him my hold life that are crying babies when face with another man that WANT take their child behavior or put up with their bullshit then they cry foul lol.

Guys like him will always run to the school teacher they will alway be WEAK and hide behind policy that can protect their candy asses.

Why is it ok, for guys like him to 1st attack me but when I come back with my own reponse then theres a BIG problem until someone can answer that question, of (why there is such a double standard).

I think its better for me to stay off this board, I know this will make a lot of people happy if anyone want to contact me just e-mail me in my inbox, etc. I don't have time for this.

Thanks, loser Aldaron with your pay by the hour for your childcare needed service in RIO(babysitter) you the one that need your candy baby ass hand held.

If the policy change I will stay off the board their no reason why me or anyone should put up with attacks from candy asses like Aldaron and NOT be able to come back with a reponse.

You help make up my mind Aldaron about what I need to do thanks.

Later guys,

KidCisco

I think Kendricks should be banned for not telling me about Durex Ultra Sensitives sooner..;) LOL

How's it hangin' Kenny?

Okay, I feel sort of bad. But this is the first inkling of humanity we have seen from KC. KC, if my criticisms were taken personally, sorry. I disagree with virtually everything you say, and I strongly disagree with the way you have said them in the past. If I called you out--I think you deserved it...and more. But this has been your best post yet (and most grammatically correct). Hats off. Even though I dont wear one. And perhaps I should, since i am...bald. There I said it.

However--regarding your suggestion that I have done anything with the money contributed towards Cassias child...I have given the password to my paypal account to BwanaDik and Sandman so they can peruse every single transaction (I did this last week). So if anyone has any question about how much money has been contributed to me, please ask me or them independantly. Sandman will be providing a full accounting to everyone.

Rich

KC:

You need a little thicker skin, and a little softer response. Then you would not get all of this shit.

We might even agree with you on a lot of stuff, but guys come to this board to learn, not to get dumped on. Some of them may be slow learners without confidence, but that still does not mean they should be dumped on.

Remember Teddy Rosevelt, "Speak softly, and carry a big stick."

OH

PS; I know, we will nominate you to be the "Stupid Police" on this board. You can be the one that tells us all how stupid we are, and how we screwed up.

Please come to order. We are having elections now.

I nominate "KC" to be the "Head of The Stupid Police - and To Tell US".

Is there a second?

Gee, I think my mother used to do many of the same things KC is doing.

How many of you guys need a new mother?



(Message edited by otrohombre on August 25, 2003)

Hi Innocent, thanks for recommending I get kicked off! I was starting to feel unloved. Everything is going pretty good, this has been a damn good year for me (so far, anyway!) Are you still living out my dream, and living full time in Thailand now? How's that going?

Lots. Just got back from one month in LOS. Have a couple construction projects in progress that look very promising in Samutsakorn. Studio apartments for factory workers coming in from the provinces.

The factories are across the street there is an extreme housing shortage.

The area reminds me of Newark or Elizabeth, NJ where I was raised. The amount of road and other construction that is going on has the place looking like a real war zone.

Anyway the place is booming. Also planning to start an English school in BKK which is a very hot ticket right now. Possible international school later.

We also got some land from my wife's mom In Sattahip. Thirty minutes south of Pattaya about five minutes drive from the beach. That's what I said 30 minutes away. Scary huh?

Fucking unblievable. I'd like to build a house and move there right away.May have to work in BKK for a while just because of good business connections there and spend weekends in Satahip.

It's about 2.5/3 hours from BKK. Lots of irons in the fire right now.

Can't wait to leave permanantly. Hopefully in six months when our second apartment building is complete.

Stay in touch, I'll keep you posted.

Good Luck, Mr. Innocent

If I post something that is on-topic, is it going to be placed in the off off-topic thread?

People who should be banned :

Kendricks - For being an opinionated prick and for always holding a different opinion from me.
Ceenotes - For treating Garotas like crap.
Kidcisco - For treating everyone like crap.
BW - For being a narcissistic prick.
Sancho - For previously being ignorant about different races and for screwing other peoples' wives, for office sex.
Milkman - For being a gossip queen.
Ben - For hitting on my niece(high schooler) and for being rich.
LDvee - For being rich.
LAguy - For being a lawyer prick in L.A.
Murasaki - For banging too many Asians.
Khum Mor - For dating a cute Thai half his age.
dArt - For screwing my girlfriend.
Don Gringo - For making Murasaki and others jealous by going on a trip every three weeks.
Sandman - For corrupting Don Gringo.
Snapper - For saying the war has nothing to do with the oil.
Progman - For trying to set me up with that fugly Rosa Maria in TJ.
Epimethus - Same as above.
Hombre - For charging us money and making bucks off our reports.

So.. who else...
Wait, where did everyone go?

God damn Innocent, I am fucking jealous as hell. Congrats on the new lifestyle, it sounds like a dream. Being half an hour from Pattaya could get you in trouble, but that's the kind of trouble I like...

Dick Johnson should be banned for being a whiney little bastard who deserves to die.

DickJohnson
You forgot GCL, who should be banned for forsaking the rest of us to live and work amongst naked Brazilian garotas.

For those of you interested, a cessation of hostilities has been agreed upon by Kidcisco and I. I extended an olive branch to him yesterday and told him he could take one more free shot at me without retribution. As you can see, he did and that is fine, and then he accepted my truce offer. Peace has been restored between us.

Now it is time for us all to start acting like adults and get back to discussing what we all live for.... fucking pussy!

Who are you calling a "fucking pussy"?

Trouble indeed. My now friend Roger, ex Navy,ex New yorker, Italian construction worker (talk about having some stuff in common) owns the Nevada GoGo bar on Soi Post office.

He's been in Thailand since he's been 18!!!
Tolal Harley Davidson riding nut.

He been introducing me around the community of expats. Just when you think you've seen it all.

It's going to get interesting I'm sure. nOt getting caught is going to be, I believe nearly impossible.

I want to work on trying to get permission. My wife has already hinted at I might want a second wife?

Is this a test?

I guess I'm the pussy because this weekend, I'm going to have it all over me in Rio.

Aderon:

Don't forget to fuck some "bundinhas" as well! Just leave the "bundones" alone...

BS

Aldaron, I lived in Rio for 2 years back in the late 70's.

I wish I could be there to "guide" you. LOL, and I was in the Navy too. ;)

Badseed: My Portuguese isn't that good. Sounds like it has something to do with ass.....

Innocent: I'll never say another God Damn word about a guide again.

Dick Johnson,

I like the list you prepared. I particularly dislike CEENOTES, LAGUY. You forgot GCL and BWANA DIK who are particularly disgusting. BWANA has no taste in garotas. He seems to just love taking pics of the chicas in the cabines. I could not find a single garota in there that could beat out my namorada and she will be 28 later this year. Gilda, a close friend of my namorada is in her mid-30's and she is better looking by far than any of the chicas in his photo repertoir. Sorry Bwana Dik, but you have really bad taste in chicas.

Turk5555,
I'll tell it to you point blank Turk, or whatever your name is. Dick Johnson is no longer on this board. I suspect you are going to follow in his footsteps.

Oh, and one more thing Turk. I will be posting here any private emails you send me.

Pretty pathetic that Turk 55 ( I do not think he deserves the other two fives ) has to dig up a thread that has been dead for a year to find an Hombre that he agrees with - and then he finds one that is no longer on the board !!
BTW Turk -- The post was a sarcastic joke. It's sad that you are unable to recognize satire but given the density that you have shown in other posts it is not surprising.
I still cannot understand why you waste your time preaching about serious relationships to men who are members of a monger's site. I am also in a committed serious relationship , but I do not bother trying to pretend it is the only way to live. It works for me -- what others do is up to them. I suggest you leave your preaching at home -- if you have something valuable to contribute here by all means let's hear it. If you are going to waste everyone's time with your morality -- take it to a Billy Graham revival meeting. That being said I will ignore all your posts from here on out. I just wish this site had an ignore tab.

Hey Dildo (aka Turk),
I only post pics of girls who consent to have their pics posted (as I've noted here many times). So you've seen 1/10 of 1% of the girls I've been with. In other words, you don't know dick about who I've been with and what they look like. I have seen your pics of Christiane, and she is purely average. I'm sure she's a swell gal, although I really don't know what kind of a man would post a link to pics of his girlfriend on a website devoted to whoremongering. That would certainly be something even GCL wouldn't do (and hasn't done, in fact).
Yours in Christ,
Bwana

I am incredulous that we would have to defend ourselves to this cretin, and on our own board no less! There is nothing left to be said to this guy. He is clearly out of place in our forum. And to take shots at Bwana - the patron saint of Rio?? And wishing diseases on him to boot???

This troll needs to go.