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By Batster1 on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:05 pm:  Edit

Kenny,

Sigo siendo uno de tus aficionados. Nadie escribe igual que tu. Pero de veras eres un culero. LOL.

Keep up the good work. I am still waiting for another good sex story. I am tired of getting beat up by your acerbic wit and need some stress relief.

batster

By Porker on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 08:02 am:  Edit

Since I’ve been labeled a racist (yes, Amous, you got under my skin), I figured maybe I ought to pipe in here. I am not a racist, nor ever have been, as to ME, racism is David Duke type stuff. Experience and general observation taught me when I was very small that there is no genetic superiority of one race over another – anyone is pretty much just as capable as anyone else. Being raised in Orange County, CA, however, I did become something of a redneck. Of course I also worshiped Ronald Reagan and went to Wally George (a local So Cal phenomenon, I believe) tapings and chanted his name. Our preferred names for Mexicans at school were ‘wabs’ as wetback was too long and we might get our asses kicked for using it. We never really used the name beaner for some reason (BTW, the new Molotov video is hilarious). Our idiotic nicknames for Vietnamese (which were about 1/3 of MY classes) were ‘nips’, oblivious that this was a slur for Japanese. I never, ever, used the word nigger, as even for rednecks, this is taboo unless you’re sure you’re talking to another one, but damned if it wasn’t on the tip of my tongue several times. Basically, I grew up a judgemental fool. I refused to take Spanish in school because it was a ‘poor man’s language’.

And then I went 3,000 miles away to the East Coast University. Where pretty much I was at the very least ‘exposed’ to the error of all my ways. And then graduate school where my old political views were turned about 359 degrees. I was encouraged to actually think for myself before forming opinions, rather than being just like the moron next door who blindly believes what people tell them. I still, however, never came close to being politically correct, and STILL find racial and ethnic and sexist stereotypes to be rather funny. I laughed when I was 14 and saw a cartoon in Hustler with the Harlem Globetrotters team bus, with big afro’ed guys with toothy grins hanging out the window dangling basketballs, carrying a trailer full of watermelons. I still think that’s quite funny today. Some of Westfargo’s rants made me nearly pee my pants laughing. Others sickened me. Some did both. Have my redneck tendencies gone away? Not all of them, obviously.

Someone on this board has accused me of hating Mexico and Mexicans, and that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in my life. Even when I was calling them wetbacks I never hated them, never hated anyone, though obviously I was using words of hate and ignorance. Anyone who knows me knows that ˝ my adopted family is Mexican-American. I can’t imagine what my Dad used to think when I told him Spanish was a ‘poor man’s language’, but he used to just shake his head and say I’ll learn some day.

I learned about MEXICO by going to Tijuana, mostly the Zona. And what I learned about the country wasn’t really Mexico, but rather border hustle. But I loved going there. It was soooo different than what I knew in the US. It was wild. And a little dangerous. And fun. The Mexican women I got to know were prostitutes – the bottom of the barrel in Mexican society. I instantly loved them. The Mexican men, parasites preying on tourists in the bars as pimps and drug dealers and ficha delivering leeches, as well as the drunken customers. They became part of the ‘experience’, and the entertaining ones became friends, but most were viewed as enemies. They existed to rip me off and many barely hid their contempt for me coming to their country to screw their women.

I learned MORE about Mexico, however, by going to live and work in the NE of the country. I still go straight for the sublime most of my free time and head for the houses of ill repute (that’s what I am…), but real life has me strongly entrenched in the Mexican middle class, which I can assure all of you DOES exist and is very strong, at least here in the NE. My colleagues are all devoted family people who value hard work and education. They teach me (or try to… soy burro!) about REAL Mexican culture every day. So do the poor and uneducated people that make up the vast majority of this country that I deal with before and after work. Of course I’ll never fully understand until I can speak the language about 200 % better than I do right now. And even then, I doubt I’ll ever fully understand.

I guess I am now officially an ex-pat, and I hear that ex-pats tend to bitch and complain and rage against their adopted culture. Some of my North American colleagues do nothing but. But I really love it here. Almost everything about it. It’s still new to me, and still exciting. Am I now an ‘enlightened’ human being? No, I spend too much time boozing and chasing hookers to ever become one. Am I the same idiot I was when I was 17? Sometimes.

And if you wanna call me a racist, that’s fine with me too. Maybe I am one.

By Porker on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 08:50 am:  Edit

Another example of a redneck getting an education: I don’t think I ever consciously met a Jewish person until I was 17 and went to summer school on the East Coast. I certainly was no Farrakhan, but I had heard all the jokes about Jews that everyone hears growing up, and if there was one thing I identified with Jews, it was that they were cheap. That’s all I fucking knew.

Enter Porker the idiot into a summer program FULL of upper class kids from the East Coast, and guess what I was exposed to for the first time? The first time I saw someone walking around with a yarmulke on their head, my immediate reaction was “What a fucking GEEK!”. I think it took me all of a day and a half to realize what brass fucking BALLS it took to wear something like that on your head when not only do morons think gee, what a GEEK, but a shitload of your ancestors got burned in ovens in your parents lifetime because of the beliefs that led them to wear those funny little hats. The next year my best friend turned out to be Jewish, and he taught me even further what it was like to be different and the fear that people of his faith had. I lived with a first generation Russian Jew for four years whose grandparents died in concentration camps. Yet another whose identity as a Jew was an integral part of her being and who impressed upon me an immense respect for something I never had any idea even existed when I was listening to idiotic jokes as a kid. I can probably tell a similar story as to how eventually many of my prejudices got exposed and rejected. I think many of us can. You grow up. You learn. I’m STILL learning.

By Kendricks on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 11:01 am:  Edit

Dude, I can just picture you sitting there screaming "WALLY WALLY!" That's pretty fucking funny. Is your father amused by the fact that you went from someone who refused to learn Spanish to an expat living in Mexico?

By Porker on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 11:22 am:  Edit

He's glad I got the hell away from the border, says the border attracts 'trash' from both sides of the line. He is scared to death of going to Mexico because of all the drug-related killings and likes his rather cushy existence (after growing up dirt poor) in the U.S.

Wally George was funny as hell. His message, however, was scary in retrospect. May he r.i.p.

By Dogster on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:03 pm:  Edit

Some of you fucking losers at this site could learn something about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by reading this thread from start to finish. Or you could save the world by reading about the Atkins Diet.

Yours in whoring

(Message edited by dogster on June 25, 2003)

By Dick Johnson on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 06:42 pm:  Edit

Thanks for digging up this four month old thread to prove your love of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

-DICK

By Robert Johnson on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:24 pm:  Edit

Since this section is supposed to deal with immigration, here's a question I'd like to see debated: Should green card holders (permanent resident aliens) be required to pass test(s) on their knowledge of such things as the U.S. Constitution and government?

I'm not real clear on the so-called "green card," except that it is no longer green. Nor do I know for certain that if someone has a "green" card, that they are automatically "permanent resident aliens." I have, however, roomed with a couple of guys, who were "permanent resident aliens." So, I am at least certain that immigration status exists.

While my roomies were generally likeable, it seems wrong, that they could be allowed to live here, basically the rest of their lives, without knowing the basic principles by which this country operates. The sort that are taught in courses that are required from about 7th grade, thru 12th. It seems both they and the country are short-changed.

I realize, people debate endlessly, what shoud go into those courses. And, that such knowledge does not guarantee agreeing to those principles.

After someone has been here awhile, say, three years, they sould be required to pass a test, with more tests periodically. Continual failures should be deported.What are others thoughts, as to the +/- of this?

By Ben on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:22 am:  Edit

Can someone explain to me why they are killing all the librarians?

I always thought that would be a safe job.

By Amous on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 06:22 pm:  Edit

Porker:
I admire that you exposed your-hopefully-honest feelings. However, your bashing conditioning seems to come through even if some of it does come in a form of seemingly harmless jokes.
Everyone is racist to some point, and some have some legitimate gripes about nationalities, I have quite a few about mexicans myself. But we can at the least keep our opinions honest without the bash.
I grew up in LA, and for us the white man was at the end of our bashing. I have many qualms about the white man and often feel like throwing putdowns around, but instead I "try" to express these in a way where the white man can see the ignorance of his ways or where he can at least refute it.

By Dick Johnson on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:04 am:  Edit

Last weekend I went to one of my favourite spots the upscale Santa Monica beach and GOOD LORD! I thought I was in Mexico.

3-5 ago there were lots of beach bunnies tanning and chilling and playing volleyball, roller blading etc. This year it looks like a mexican refuge camp. I've never seen a beach crowd so 3rd world ugly and I've been to many beaches. Hundreds of broke ass illegal looking mexicans have driven the Americans away.

Those of you crying for political correctness can suck my dick. 20 years ago S. Calif is one of the nicest places in USA. Wait till the mexicans become the Majority in Los Angeles(which will happen) and start voting in their mayors and Governors.

The system is fucked. It is corrupt. Don't get me started. INS is shit.

We could hardly blame the Mexicans for wanting to come here. And I don't hate them personally. I have hired them before. I have dated US borned Mexican girls. But the large number of illegal immigrants is a problem, whether they are from Mexico or Mainland China.

Don't get me started.

-DJ

By Milkman on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:06 am:  Edit

Where can me and Ben find this beach ?

And I might take you up on that offer also :-)

The white man will be extinct within 500 years

By Kendricks on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:13 am:  Edit

I agree with Milky. This beach sounds fun! Much better than hanging out with a bunch of arrogant blueblood white supremacist bitches.

You racist cocksuckers who don't think brown people have a right to share your beach can crap out a big healthy hunk of shit and choke yourself it.

By Kidcisco on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:15 am:  Edit

Its OK for dumb/fat/beer drinking/waffle eating/pick up truck driving/walmart back to school shopping/whore chasings clown like a Dick Johnson to go to Mexico and give needed Mexican girls a peso to suck his LITTLE small dick BUT DON'T LET Their sons or brothers come here to work or earn a living.

maybe you worry that the ONLY white girls left in S. CAL is going to look for a KOBE or maybe a Latino that knows how the fuck that white pussy besides licking it like a cat.

Clowns like you are losers DJ and the girls can tell you are a losers you live in FEAR all the time that someday this is going to happen or that is going to happen etc,etc, besides living life LOOK AROUND or go around the world and look NOT that many people look like you do they?? is that what you so worry about??

If you wasn't so much of a devil and have not did so much WRONG in you haven't fuck up your life you wouldn't give a shit about dumb shit like who is on a fucking beach.

WERE did the fuck your family came from DJ??? maybe they should have KEPT their asses over there then you wouldn't have to worry about bullshit like this, they came here for a better life like the Mexicans and all the others that came here.

I bet most of the land in S.CAL at one time belong to the TRUE CAL. the (MEXICANS), what are you so worry about the REAL OWNERS of your land that you sleep and call home will one day come with a deed and take it from you??? and kick your weak punk ass off their land?? and were would that leave your PUNK ASS?? and losers like you??


Ha,Ha,Ha, what a weak ass punk you are DJ I am bless I live a beauiful life and have all the $$$$ I need or ever want homes around the world and I don't time to worry about the type of bullshit that you do, I almost feel sorry for sick fucks like you, but then I take a long look at your sick ass and see all the HATE and THEN I don't feel sorry for you, just live and wait to GO TO HELL were like you belongs.

KidCisco

By Kendricks on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:21 am:  Edit

KisCisco, I agree with most of what you said.

I'm not sure that Dick has ever posted he drives a pickup truck, though. If he has, I missed it.

Other than that, you are right on target!

By Farsider on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:34 am:  Edit

Where is this beach? Sounds like it might be worthwhile to splurge for a plane ticket and take a 6-hour flight to check it out.

By Ben on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:39 am:  Edit

Lets see?

Which beach do I want to go to on Saturday?

Del Mar Beach: where no drinking is allowed and a bunch of pasty skinned white girls are lying around showing off their bodies, but giving nasty looks at a dirty old man who is checking them out. The DOM knows he has no chance to fuck these Del Mar Darlings and even if he did fuck one of then he would then have the problem of how to get rid of them

Rosarito Beach: that is covered with beautiful brown skinned young women with flashing smiles and friendly gestures and waves toward the same DOM. I have my choice of bringing a beautiful 20-year-old Sugar Pie with me; I mean the DOM has the choice, and also knowing that I/he can spend 2-3 hours later in the day in the arms of this young Latina beauty.

I/He just can't decide what would be more fun????

By Catocony on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 09:47 am:  Edit

KidCisco,

At any time during your accumulation of your vast wealth in money and property around the world, did you ever consider taking an English class or two so that maybe us little folks can figure out what you're writing?

By Ben on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:09 am:  Edit

Cat,

You are a mean man!

I will not attend the Fiesta on August 30 if Catocony is there.

Rumor has it that Cat caused the "East Coast Black Out" yesterday just because he thought it would be fun.

By Blazers on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:31 am:  Edit

Actually, Mexico lost their land fair and square...the land is no longer rightfully theirs. I will tell you that the Catholic breeding so prevalent in Latin American and the Philippines changes once they move to the states. Most Mexicans and Filipinos figure out that they cannot afford to have huge families in the states so they have fewer children. After a generation or two, eveyr immigrant family becomes totally immersed in American culture and they adapt to American society but with a twist. The problem with white Americans is that they don't have many children, if any at all...which creates a huge downward spiral in their population pool. Remember folks, white Americans are not the only card carrying racists, minorities are just as racist, if not, much more so. I wish they would just quit brainwashing their daughters into marrying only men of their own race. It is a definate phenomenon that immigrant parents become irate when their daughter decide to date or marry outside of their race. I envision a future where we all can interbreed and the children will be more beautiful and enlightened.

By Kendricks on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:38 am:  Edit

I envision a future where humanity finally meets the catostraphic end it so richly deserves. I hope it happens while I am young enough to enjoy the fall, yet old enough that I'm done getting my kicks.

By Ben on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:00 am:  Edit

Blazers sez:
"Actually, Mexico lost their land fair and square"

Orange juice just shot up my nose. Man that burns.

Fair and square as in, we take the land away from then by conquering Mexico and then draw up a treaty (which the U.S. writes) where they legally give us California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas and don't forget the Gulf of Mexico.

You know the Gulf where all the oil is located.

If I need an attorney, I want you.

By Dogster on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:14 am:  Edit

Don't get me started

By Kendricks on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:20 am:  Edit

Wouldn't you rather have an attorney capable of formulating a convincing argument, Ben?

By Kendricks on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:23 am:  Edit

If a bunch of guys walked into Blazers' house, beat the shit out of him, and then demanded he sign a contract signing title of his house away in order for his life to be spared, I wonder if he would agree that he lost title to his house "fair and square"?

Or maybe he would argue that his signature on the contract is void, since it was obtained through duress.

Which is it, Blazers?

By Nayarit on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:42 am:  Edit

I have grown so accustomed to the brown skin people of the world I often think of myself as being like them. When I see myself in the mirror I almost look sickly. Thank God all my off spring are mixed with that beautiful brown tone. We are all just people looking for the best things in life.

The irony is to think about all those white girls on the beach trying to get tan like the Mexicans.
By the way, my daughter's favorite beach in LA is Santa Monica.

As far as Mexican and American history is concerned, you better read about President Polk and boys during the Manifest Destiny era. Mexicans have more reason to be suspicious of Gringos. Racist Americans are still living in that era.

By Batster1 on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:55 am:  Edit

Dont forget that the Mexican governemnt actually brokered a deal with the US for the purchase of their territory. I think it was 22 million dollars. OK so we had just kiched their ass and had a gun at their head. But we still paid more for it than we paid France for the Lousiana Purchase and more than we paid Russia for Alaska.

As much as I love Mexico and Mexicans( I am living in Mexico by choice) I am damn glad that all of that territory now belongs to the US. Otherwise it would be in the same condition as Mexico. Not good. It is not racism to simply state that the US system has better used the resources and provides a better standard of living than the Mexican system has. Suppose that This territory still belonged to Mexico. We would still have an immigation problem. There would still be millions looking to move to the US for economic reasons. But the state most effected would be Nebraska or something like that.

In the long run everybody was probably better off with the US administrating California rather than Mexico. Not the least the Indians. If you think the pale faces treated the indians bad in the US. You should see how they have been treated in Mexico. If they were not hunted down and exterminated like the yaquis, they were trapped in a very racist system that keeps them at the very bottom of society and in abject poverty. Almost slave labor conditions. At least here they can have casinos, sell cigarettes, and in the case of some tribes make beau coup dollars off of oil. None of that in Mexico.

Back in the early 80's there was a rather significant movement in the norhtern states of Mexico to secede and petition the US for statehood. It did not get much press here but it scared the bejesus out of politicians in Mexico City. A Mexico that already lost half of its territory under duress, was under threat of halving it halfed again bu tthis time by the choice of its own populace.

I feel sorry for Mexico, but not because we took their territory.

Batster

By Milkman on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:14 pm:  Edit

Nayarit if you go to hell you have nothing to worry about because you are so dam Kool :-)


"When I see myself in the mirror I almost look sickly"

Why do you think I won't show myself in public anymore until i lose some wate !

"I have grown so accustomed to the brown skin people of the world I often think of myself as being like them"

Were we seperated at birth ? Same goes here

Good Post Batster too !
Milky

By Masterater on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:56 pm:  Edit

I am still waiting for Dick Johnson's respond............
Maybe he locked himself in his trailer and his white trash trailer park neighbors cant hear him.


By Reytj on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:15 pm:  Edit

Catocony

How is that you feel the need to question KidCisco's command of English and not the following gems by Dickhead Johnson?

"20 years ago S. Calif is(sic) one of the nicest places in USA.

I have dated US borned(sic) Mexican girls"

Reytj

By Ben on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:23 pm:  Edit

Por Favor Reytj,

KidCisco makes me look like Shakespeare.

By Dick Johnson on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 04:38 pm:  Edit

Kidcrisco, you pathetic lonely bragging faggot, at least Milky was more direct in saying he wants to suck my dick. Crisco, you have NO IDEA about what the fuck you are talking about. What fucked up your brains that makes your only purpose in life is too come on this site all the time and talk shit at everybody? You never contribute a trip report but you always spend your time saying you are rich and you are 7'2" and you are an ex marine-choirboy and everyone else is a dumbasss. Was it the secret experimental drugs while you were in service that fucked you up or did your mom drop you on the head? Or did she bang a lot of white men and made you wish you were white?
Forget this Kidcrisco fool.

I don't drive a pick up, I have two cars one a sedan one a convertible, I don't eat waffles, I never drink beer, I swim and practice martial arts and is far from fat, and I am certified hi IQ.

What is ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. Why should the US be different. Can you go to another country and take up residence there without a visa? No. This ISSUE is not so much about racism, but ENFORCEMENT of LAW. AND CORRUPTION. Read my earlier post again.

I've dated mex girls are kid around with mex guys and I don't dislike them at all. But it's time to put this ever increasing number to a stop. It's better for all Californians. like

When you do something illegal, and the LONGER you do it ILLEGALLY, shouldn't the punishment be more SEVERE? Shouldn't there be longer jailtime/fines?

But instead the longer you do something illegally the less illegal it becomes(!?!) until wham! You are 'naturalized'! Doesn't this end a bad message that the US law is not to be obeyed? Parts of L.A. are like Mexico, dumps, with drugs and criminal etc.

The problem is not whether you like them or not, but the ever increasing huge numbers of them. By entering here illegally and ..

And the Mexican guys get girls to pump out babies like there's no tomorrow, Good Lord! 2 kids before they reach twenty and ever got married. 35 and she's a grandma. Haven't they heard of condoms? Or Contrceptive jellies or pills? Who gives a shit? The broke ass guy doesn't pay child support since he doesn't pay taxes!

more to come-don't get me started

-DJ

(You guys know I'm right inside. BTW, I have received several emails privately supporting my beliefs but do not wish to get into controversy.)

(Message edited by DickJohnson on August 15, 2003)

By Dick Johnson on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:04 pm:  Edit

I own a home in an upscale neighbourhood, Masterbater.

In Los Angeles, the Mexicans are becoming the majority, if they are not already so.

Correction to my previous post. "I've dated mex girls aND kid around with mex guys"

On another note, I have long ago voiced my support for cross cultural marriages/relationships. Understand each others' cultures and have beautiful babies.

-DJ

By Bull_winkle on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:02 pm:  Edit

Now that we all understand each other, I believe that we have achieved peace in our time.

Bull_winkle for Governor

By Farsider on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:37 pm:  Edit

I have a confession to make. I eat waffles. With SYRUP.

By Tight_fit on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:09 pm:  Edit

DJ, I usually am happy to be with those who want to do something serious about the illegal immigration problem. And after reading various message boards about living in places like the PI, Brazil, Costa Rica, etc I know there isn't a one of them that would allow any of us to take up permanent residence there just because we felt like it. And talking about California being "owed" to the Mexicans is a joke. The Spanish "owned" the place before Mexico was a concept and the poor Indians before them.

But blaming the Mexican illegals (and what about those from Asia?) for all the urban decay you have in Southern California is out of whack. Your beautiful Santa Monica beaches were trashed long ago by the MTV scum of this society. And LA in general was a cesspole way back in the 60s before Taco Bell even existed.

It isn't the illegal Mexicans who write all the gang graffiti and spend their days doing drugs and waiting for the next food stamp distribution. They aren't the ones who created a fast food mentality that is now directed at every action or thought. And they certainly aren't the ones who tear apart the infrastructure so that many areas look like bombed out target zones. There are plenty of places in this country where there isn't a single Mexican, legal or illegal, and everything looks like Post Terminator decoration.

As much as I want to control the indescriminate access to this country and end the cultural undermining that is taking place I don't want some sort of racial and/or cultural jihad directed against people who come here to escape the abject poverty of their own countries. Besides, you and I both know that most of the work that these people do is stuff that no native born American is going to be caught dead doing. These people don't show up expecting an automatic and immediate free handout. It's the people who control the political system who are promoting a welfare mentality for their own gains that leech onto these immigrants. Get rid of them and show some empathy towards the Mexican family on the beach who are probably just as upset about the decay as you are.

Besides, who would you rather sit next to anyway? A bunch of friendly people enjoying themselves with all generations included or a bunch of wannabe head bangers and their pasty faced fat assed parents. The first group might invite you over for home made tortillas and carne asada. The second group is eating pork rinds with cheeze wheez.

By Dick Johnson on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:26 pm:  Edit

I don't think we all understand each other and it is too early for peace.

By I_am_sancho on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 07:36 pm:  Edit

You know what gives me the biggest kick of all. Mexicans spewing venom about all the Asians that "are taking over". As I have mentioned I work in an office with about 8 Lao girls. There are more Lao and Vietnamese in the shop outside the office. There is one Chicano guy in the office with me as well and even though he speaks English better than me he spends half the day going out of his way to speak Spanish and the other half of the day crying like a bitch because the chinos are jabbering there crap, or he cant stand Thai music (but no one complains about the crap he plays), Then he bitches that there food stinks ect ect ect. I love it. I get such a kick out of seeing Mexican guy cry to the other Mexican guys about the Laotians. Once the girls even politely ask me if there music or loud gossiping in Lao bothered me at all after the Mexican guy complained to upper management that he couldn't concentrate because of all the Lao "jabbering" I told the girls have at it, enjoy your conversation, crank up the Thai music. Mexican guy is suffering. I really get a kick out of it. White Americans are in general the most tolerant people on the planet. No way would Mexicans in Mexico tolerate much of what is perfectly normal in San Diego. I am sick and tired of hearing racism used as an excuse for every lazy bum that doesn't make it big because he is sitting on his ass crying that society is mistreating him.

By Dick Johnson on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:16 pm:  Edit

Tight fit, the first part of your post is right. But perhaps you missed things I've already said earlier :

Aug 15th 204 am
"The system is fucked. It is corrupt. Don't get me started. INS is shit."

"We could hardly blame the Mexicans for wanting to come here. And I don't hate them personally."

"But the large number of illegal immigrants is a problem, whether they are from Mexico or Mainland China."

504pm:
"The problem is not whether you like them or not, but the ever increasing huge numbers of them. "

I have already pointed out the system is fucked and we can hardly blame the Mexicans and also there are those from Asia, esp Mainland China. So tight fit, please do not repeat what I've already said and try to tell it back to me.

That's my problem. Everyone steals from me, repeats my phrases. Dogster's gotta repeat my 'don't get me started', Bullwinkle's gotta repeat my 'what the fuck is your problem, xxx boy?'. Milky's gotta use my "say that to a chica and you'll get slapped across your face" back against me. Sancho's got to say my "I'm free to post whatever I like". All the day after my post.

Tight fit, I never blamed the Mexicans for the urban decays of L.A. So please don't put words into my mouth. And your notions that caucasians are all headbangers eating pork rinds are way off.

But the fact is California is one of THE world centers in the Computer Industry, Entertainment Industry, Shipping, Oil Refinery etc. We can afford some illegal immigrants here but hey, we need to get our priorities straight.

Don't give me that politically correct crap about the jobs they do no one else will do : there is high unemployment even among the illegals. Seen all those groups outside of Home Depot, Home Base? Having more illegals here will not do any good.

-DJ

By Milkman on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 09:53 pm:  Edit

DJ

I was wondering if you understood my response
I have met DJ and can say he is a stand up guy and showed no racist actions when we were together.

He was just venting his frustration

good Luck
Milktuff

By Bull_winkle on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:33 pm:  Edit

What's wrong with eating pork rinds? Pork. The other white meat.

By Innocent on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:24 am:  Edit

They are all pink and wet on the inside. IMHO that's where it counts. Although I lost my taste for white meat a long time ago... ;)

By Kidcisco on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 10:45 am:  Edit

"DICK" JOHNSON PLEASE GET STARTED YOU BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER!!! What you don't want is for me to get started, you just one of those BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKERS TAKE YOUR BEER DRINKING NASCAR RACE DRIVEN/your CHEAP BROKE ASS NHRA DRAG CAR RACING/BRING BACK THE REBEL FLAG/ ON YOU FAT ASS BITCH!!!.

I live to walk on and step over and TAKE A NASTY SHIT on losers MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE YOU!! just face it you are just a weak ass PUNK that worry about your BITCH ASS getting fuck up everytime you walk out of your trailer park you must live a fuck up life being and have so much hate inside of you since you live a low class life and you are known as (white trash) in your so-called country of birth and live with rats.

When you look around DICK JOHNSON and THAT OTHER BITCH "CATOCONY" is the reason you spend so much of your time asking silly ass questions about BULLSHIT or about my English skills is because you DON'T have a life or do you want to feel better about your FUCK UP LIFE? when you spending time asking silly questions about my English writing skills I am somewere fucking "10's" and dancing and stepping over valet red ropes entering the VIP areas or flying around 1st class/ staying in *****stars hotels were losers like you can't go to.

So keep on wasting your time asking questions about me (HOW TALL IS KIDCISCO yes you little SHORT FUCK I AM 6 '4 1/4, MY WEIGHT you fat fuck I am 235 lbs. AND GET IT RIGHT YOU DUMB SHIT I WAS IN THE NAVY SEALS NOT THE FUCKING MARINES!!!!!!).

Spend your time asking those questions I spend my time counting my $$$ you fucker.

It must make you burn like the KKK/REBEL flag THAT you wave in front of your trailer park everytime you see so many NON ENGLISH SPEAKING people come over here and fucking living the type of life style your ass wish you lived they come here not speaking English in with little $$$ and ONLY 3 short years they PASS your ass in yearly income $$$$$ and live in a better house then you/ or have a better looking women then you/ or have a better job then you or owned their own company.

Let me list the hate you have is it the houses I have? or the $$$ I have? or is it the height I have? or the life style I have? etc.etc. OR IS IT YOU ARE JUST A FUCK UP BITCH ASS PUNK MOTHER FUCKER??? that don't have a fucking life reach is it fucker??

Yes, Dick Johnson and your little "butt fucking bitch Catocony" you don't want is for me started!!!!!

YOU the type of BITCH I see all the time in RIO as soon as your PUNK ass get off the plane you ready to PISS in your pants just waiting for your guide to take your BITCH ass by taxi to your room and you running around with others looking over your shoulders like a BITCH ASS PUNK that you are worrying about a 5 or 6 years old kid KICKING YOUR BITCH PUNK ASS!!!!in the streets of RIO ha,ha,

You talk so much shit inside your trailer park WATCHING ON YOUR black and white 19inch tv and go over to RIO and run from little kids like the PUNK ASS BITCH THAT YOU ARE.

Yes, you little BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER I don't have time or wish to write reports on here I wrote BOOKS on this subject of (whore mongering) and those that know me only can laugh at your ass I have wrote MANY trip reports on WSG/TSM etc.etc. over the years I want waste my time repeating the some INFO/INTEL over and over anymore, IF THERE'S SOMETHING I can add that haven't been cover or been left out I might add to the post.

Like I said, those that know me can only laugh at your punk ass I wrote the book on whore mongering in Brazil before your cheap trailer park BROKE ass could even afford to take a flight or a trip and been taking trips and whore mongering around the world before they world allow a low life white trash like yourself to even get on plane because you wouldn't even know how to dress 1st try brushing your rotten ass teeth the ones you have left and try washing your dirty ass blue jeans that you been wearing for the pass months, maybe you could get a girlfriend without paying for a whore all the time.

I can also write BOOKS on how to make $$$$/etc. along with other things this is why I can afford to BUY PUNKS LIKE YOU A DIME OF DOZ. when you spend your time asking yourself how this family from Mexico can move into that nice house you WISH you could afford or drive the type of car you WISH you could when they ONLY been here in the state only a few years ??? maybe you should spend your time working your ass off and not so much time worry about ME and my writing skills or English skills and not spending your time with so much HATE maybe you could have made something of your FUCK UP LIFE you BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER you need to face it you are just a PUNK and a loser that want NEVER be shit in this country or anywhere.

I remember one time in RIO this girl I know we were in a club and this short/trailer park short pants white socks wearing fucker like you DICK JOHNSON wanted to be with her and everytime she went to the restroom this fucker would offer her $100.00, next time he offer her $150.00/next time he offer her $200.00 for a short time/ she told him you must be a LOSER in your country?? and "HOW DO IT FEEL NOT TO BE SHIT IN YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT BE SHIT IN BRAZIL EITHER??? was that you fucker?? I am talking to you DICK JOHNSON and you CATOCONY can you understand that fuckers you little shits look like you have to much time on your hands try making something of your life and maybe you can be a winner like me and all the other people that made someting of their life.

The lesson is this don't spend time worrying about who's coming into this country or how mine English skills are and since you also wondering about other shit (I bet I can write a check a $5.00 check on your PUNK ASS on your net worth and get change back).

I know you HATE the fact I am everything you ARE NOT!!!and it EAT your BITCH ASS UP that I am so goodlooking and YES A RICH ASS PERSON also YOU WISH you was half the man I am with your sick/evil/fat/dumb/JEALOUS self.

You just a little man that NEVER MADE IT in life and it BURNS your weak little sick PUNK ass up everytime you see someone that wasn't born here MAKE IT ha,ha,.

Yes, you one of those FAT/WAFFLE HOUSE EATING BEER DRINKING/ HOOTER'S CHICKEN WINGS EATING FUCKS, HOW MUCH YOU SPEND ON LAP DANCES A YEAR?? thats the only way a women here in the USA will even touch a fucker like you ha,ha, what a fucking losers.

Dick Johnson and Catocony you one of the PUNKS at the bar that drink your beer and talk about what you wish you had/ what you should have had or could have had loser types that NEVER amount to shit and blame EVERYTHING ON EVERYONE ELSE you blame the US LAWS/ THE RULES/ and all the other shit for you being a losers.

The US LAWS never stop me from making $$$ and living a GREAT life style or never stop anyone I KNOW IN FORBES from making $$ and living a better life or anyone I know from making something in their life I only hear losers like you talking SHIT because you as a white man or a AMERCIAN born in this country YOU should have no one to blame except yourself for being a LOSERS just look in the mirror or get your foot stool in look in your trailer park (SHARED) "OUT HOUSE" or your common restroom or the one you white trashs used behind the waffle house and look in the mirror and see the loser FUCK you are!!!!THAT THE PERSON YOUR SHOULD BLAME IS YOUR FUCKING ASS NOT THE US LAWS just you!!!!

Just rememeber you don't want to get me started I see fucks like you getting your drunking white socks wearing/ four day wearing/blue jean wearing/ ZZ TOPS T-shirt wearing/ REBEL flag wearing/NASCAR racing watching/ TAKE YOUR 30 YEAR OLD PICK- UP TRUCK DRIVEN back to your trailer park and kiss my ass You wish you was HALF a man that I am you little shit I step over fucks like you all the time.

How many times you got your MOON SHINE GRAND DADDY PICK UP (TRANSMISSION REPLACE???)I love seeing loud mouths like you running up to me asking me if I am a American in RIO asking for and crying for me to PLEASE HELP your punk ASS!! while running down the street being chase by 8 year old kids getting your drunk PUNK ass kick, THEN COME BACK reporting how RIO is fuck up I been going to RIO before there was a club Help and I can walk anywhere 24/7 in RIO and I never had a problem by myself, you see DICK JOHNSON AND CATOCONY even 6 year old kids in RIO can tell you are a PUNKS (I bet you got your lunch money tooking from your bith ass in school too).

Its funny HOW I can walk anywhere in the world or anywhere in the USA ALONE (SOLO) and not have to worry about paying for guides or having 30 other mongers around me being afraid that my ass is going to get kick, what a joke you are ha,ha,ha,next time in TJ or RIO I can loan you one of my ex-SEAL team members to escort you around Brazil I will give you a club hombre discount.

My team and me will in Brazil really soon we were hire to work and flim a new video we have a few escorts trip plan really in RIO really soon look for me in Club help UP STAIRS WITH ALL THE 10'S AROUND ME and some rappers and a few ex-NFL football players maybe we have time to escort you around RIO but save you food stamps and save your beer drinking $$$ UP because we don't come cheap like the whores you used to fucking in Mexico, they are the only one that will fuck your loser ass.

Yes, you fuck DJ if you treat people with respect and live a good life and not always worry about someone else having or making a better living then you or blaming US LAWS for you being a loser in your own so-called country, trust me if you thought of others and respect other people right to live in peace and to make a living you wouldn't have so much hate and live SUCH A FUCK UP LIFE.

ALL THAT I WROTE GOES FOR ALL THE FUCKS LIKE D'ARTAGANAN AND DICK JOHNSON AND THAT SUCK ASS CATOCONY ALL the others that worry about mine English skills its funny for someone who complains about my English skills you FUCKS still read ALL my posts, you can spend and waste your fuck up time and complain about mine English writing skills if you want to I just laugh and think about how much of a loser you fucks are to keep reading something that you say you don't understand?? HOW CAN YOU BE SO FUCK UP READING MY POSTS ALL THE TIME BUT YET COMPLAIN ABOUT MY WRITING SKILLS BUT YET YOU STILL KEEP READING IT??? know one is making you read my post are they ?? SO DON'T READ MY FUCKING POST ANYMORE YOU FUCKER!!!!

ANYTIME OR NEXT TIME YOU COMMENT ABOUT MY ENGLISH WRITING SKILLS, I hope someone call 911 and report on the person thats keep making you read my post if you aren't being made to read my post fucker look to the right do you see the page down button fucker?? if YES press it the next time you see the name KidCisco!!!

Can you do that for yourself fucker?? or do you need to pay a guide to do that for you fucker?? everytime you comment on my writing skills you are just telling the world how dumb your fucking ass really is just ****(DON'T READ MY POST ANYMORE YOU BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER) how hard is that to do this is a free country isn't it you have the right to read my post or not to read it.

When you spend your time talking shit about US LAWS and other bullshit I am busy counting my $$$ and going on my next trip, I don't think I will ever post a trip report maybe one day will but for those that have e-mail on advise or for my insight on my life experiences in the SEALS or my travels around the world about non-mongering subjects or you want to ask me about whore mongering subjects still feel free to e-mail me, I have e-mail some cool guys over the past year and you know who you are.

I have post insight and advise on were in the past some guys have post openly on here that I have help them like SBONXX77 and others some choose not to, I want waste my time writing reports, I have a very different take on things then most guys I met in my life MOSTLY because they can't relate to the things I have done or do the things I do.

I tell guys NOT to do things and some of them will listen and others will write to me saying they should have listen to me etc. some will see the light.

Others will be like DAVID and make mistakes and others will write me BEFORE they take trips and e-mail me later and thank me, there are a lot of guys that e-mail all the time about subjects that don't have anything to do about mongering.

Their are many guys that e-mail me all the time that read my post and take trips all the time and they tell me they will never post about their trips, some tell me the reason they want NEVER report is from all the reading they read on the SHIT they some of you write about me and my writing skills and all the SHIT some of you write about other mongers they will NEVER POST A REPORT!!!

A lot of these guys have their heads on very well they e-mail me all the time about their trips and they have a lot of INFO/INTEL to share they have know problems understand or reading my post or e-mails to them, you are really hurting the webesite when you post or make remarks about my writing skills or talk BAD about people from other countries some don't write or speak English very well so they want SHARE things with the website out of fear I guess.

I ON THE OTHER HAND DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU (loser) FUCKS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ME!! I can buy and sell you cheap asses a dime a doz and get back change.

For those of you that don't get it or can't understand my post save yourself time next time when you see my name and just move to the next post don't make yourself look dumb by keep saying how you can't understand what I am writing but still keep reading it only make you look dumb.

For those of you that do get it, nothing need to be said, I hope I can share somethings with you that will make your trip safe and enjoyable, and feel free to e-mail me if you like.

I don't post as much as I used to because I look at it as "A WASTE OF TIME" I enjoying reading some of the reports on here many are saying the same things and if I can add something different I have in the past I don't know how much I will in the furture on not, I dislike reading so much hate and shit when I know these fuckers would run from 6 year old kids in RIO because I see it all the time when I am down there I spend almost more time in RIO then I do here in the USA.

Like I said early, LITTLE "DICK" ASS JOHNSON WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS TO GET ME STARTED YOU BITCH ASS PUNK AS MOTHERFUCKER, next time I see a bitch ass fucker like youself running from kids in RIO I am going to trip your punk ass up ,ha,ha,ha,.

It could take me sometime to answer your e-mails because I don't read or watch the website when I am not here in the states sometimes I do but mostly I don't.

I haven't post in a LONG TIME in the past mostly because I don't read the website when I am on the road in the USA or out of the country I have a job to do or I am enjoying life beside, I don't waste my time anymore with BULLSHIT life is short and mean to much to me to waste it on people that life is so fell with so much HATE and ANGRY.

After I get off this website I have a good life I have friends of all races and colors some that don't make much in a year to others that make in the millions, I get along with them all I feel bless that God give me a chance to live the type of life I have on this place we call earth, I have to remind myself sometimes when I read HATE FEEL REPORTS LIKE those of Dick Johnson that they JUST WANT SOME ATTENTION and they live a empty lonely life and they NEED LOVE in their life MAYBE your Mother DIDN'T GIVE IT TO YOU?? I feel sorry for you, its not to late for you to change if you want to just stop looking at people in black in white in Asain in Latino races just look at them as people and as human then maybe you can become part of the human race again.


KidCisco

By Catocony on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:59 am:  Edit

KidCisco,

Which team were you assigned to?

By d'Artagnan on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 12:35 pm:  Edit

"Which team were you assigned to?"
Catacony, I think the answer is "Barnum & Bailey"

I am a 8'5 3/4, 347.68 lb SUPER SECRET SERVICE AGENT INTERNATIONAL SPY 777 . I flick away 6'4 CIRCUS Seals with my PINKY while I count my $$$$.

Unlike beachball balancing wussies, I am not TERRIFIED at having my trip reports criticized , so I don't have to make up FANTASY STORIES about all the reports I've posted on other websites in the past. You know it's true because you can READ IT HERE. I also don't have to make up FAIRY TALES about all the people that EMAIL ME ALL THE TIME telling me they are TERRIFIED of reporting like CRISCO .

Maybe I'll post more later after I finish teaching my class on ASSASSINATION TECHNIQUES using ORIGAMI . I have some impatient CIA AGENTS waiting on me. But then again, I've been invited to a private party from my buddies BILL GATES and BILL CLINTON, so it may have to wait, especially if one of my girlfriends is there (JENNIFER ANISTON, BRITNEY SPEARS, etc...)

I am a 8'5 3/4, 347.68 lb SUPER SECRET SERVICE AGENT INTERNATIONAL SPY 777 . I flick away 6'4 CIRCUS Seals with my PINKY while I count my $$$$.

Unlike beachball balancing wussies, I am not TERRIFIED at having my trip reports criticized , so I don't have to make up FANTASY STORIES about all the reports I've posted on other websites in the past. You know it's true because you can READ IT HERE. I also don't have to make up FAIRY TALES about all the people that EMAIL ME ALL THE TIME telling me they are TERRIFIED of reporting like CRISCO .

Maybe I'll post more later after I finish teaching my class on ASSASSINATION TECHNIQUES using ORIGAMI . I have some impatient CIA AGENTS waiting on me. But then again, I've been invited to a private party from my buddies BILL GATES and BILL CLINTON, so it may have to wait, especially if one of my girlfriends is there (JENNIFER ANISTON, BRITNEY SPEARS, etc...)

You know it's ALL TRUE because I BRAGGED a LOT, CAPITALIZED WORDS, REPEATED MYSELF, and used CUTE LITTLE SMILIES!

SUPER RICH, SUPER HANDSOME, SUPER SECRET SERVICE AGENT INTERNATIONAL SPY 777 d'Artagnan

By Ben on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 12:54 pm:  Edit

KidCisco,

I am going to a party in Tijuana on August 30th and I would like to personally invite you to be there.

Aithough you are rich and don't need my help, I would like to buy you mucho tequilla and beer all sfternoon (before the party) where we can discuss and identify some of and one in particular racist hombre from this board.

Your new best friend.

BenwhohonorsNavySeals


By Catocony on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 01:55 pm:  Edit

D, you are a trip!

By Porker on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 04:32 pm:  Edit

Ben, tell him Byron's Dick Johnson.

And I can personally vouch for everything that D'art said.

By Dick Johnson on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 06:59 pm:  Edit

Kidcrisco, you crack me up. I read and write a few languages but your "bitch ass mother@#$%^&, punk ass bi#ch" ebonics is rather unpleasant on this site.

What a long post dedicated just to bashing me. Your post has no substance. Did I make you loose sleep? Did I make your dick soft when you try to choke your chicken and you think of DICK Johnson when you see your own pecker?

www.crisco.com

Are you a teenager with a Kobe poster in your bedroom? You got a little of that white women like black men thing going. You sure had no problem bashing the Hawaiians BIG time a month or two ago, so what made you so racism free all of a sudden? You go on bashing, stereotypifying white men. You can't seperate race from any issue. You are the real racist and use the race card to suit whatever your needs.

* * * *

My point is not about race, but about illegal immigration. Let's take the race issue out. Does anyone think if hundreds of thousands of White men illegally go to and permantly reside in another country it will be accepted?

Or lets say those hundreds of thousands illegally coming from Mexico are of white skin color, or yellow, or black. Living here by the MILLIONS illegally, not paying taxes, high percentage of crimes and gangs. My opinion will still be the same.

dArt, Cat lol.

-DJ

By Innocent on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:04 pm:  Edit

Kidcisco, for what it's worth (probably not much)
the Navy Seal thing is a bit over done. No offense.

I just spent a few days in Pattaya with a couple of ex Navy Seals who where one their way to Iraq as "private contractor consultants."

We did have a non stop party. I believe it has taken about a week to sober up and try to remember how many whores I fucked.

Also used to hang with Navy Seal, Black "Ops" guys and Aussie special forces on leave in Olongapo back in 1971.

Somehow or other I fit in and have memories of a life time.

What's the point. The war is over brother. You may be right, you may be wrong. Bottom line is nobody really cares.

Again no offense but comparing your height, weight and style to those who may not be as fortunate genetically as you IMHO is just not cool.

I think you make some valid points but your anger diffuses the impact. True warriors should be silent and conserve as much energy as possible until the moment of contact.

Picking on guys with white socks and tour guides doesn't make your position stronger.

I've got an ex Navy Seal buddy here in San Diego that spends all his spare time in two of the several Buddhist monestaries and would not harm,or judge a fly.

Although I have seen him do the catch the fly in mid air with chop sticks trick, a couple of times.

Anyway I would like to meet you some time and have a drink. You do sound like a wild mother fucker and I like that.

Come down to the next fiesta at La Tropa. Look for the guy setting up the cheese plates chips and salsa, that will be me.

Got to go. Think martial arts, meditation, whatever but please,fucking chill out for yourself and the planet.

By Rodney on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:28 am:  Edit

Kindness begets kindness and ... (you can figure out the rest).
I recall the late sea voyager Jacques Cousteau (a man of the world) opining that the way to avoid war was, essentially, a huge student foreign exchange program where children from every country would live in other countries. The logic is that no country would consider going to war if multitudes of their children would be placed in jeopardy. Interesting thought.
Which leads to my next point.
The enjoyment of mongering by Americans in foreign lands is possible due to the (mostly) kind treatment that foreigners are afforded when in the USA (both legally and illegally).
(Ben, help me out on this if you agree) There used to be a time not too far off (actually, the early 1960s) when Americans were hated in Central and South America. Business executives from large multinational firms would regularly get kidnapped and US politicians were targets of huge demonstrations against imperialism. Whether we did anything individually to deserve it, we were the UGLY Americans. I don't think a lot of Anglo Americans felt very comfortable down there.
Nowadays, there are so many Mexicans, Salvadorans, Panamanians, Costa Rica, Columbians etc. living in the USA it would be very difficult for these people to despise Americans when so many of their relatives are living among us.
When I am in TJ ... I am happy, joking with the cab drivers, bar waiters, hotel room boys etc. And the feeling among those peoples is mostly reciprocal. I don't think the couple of dollars I'm prepared to tip can buy that friendliness.
I think the politeness that most of us are accorded in TJ by the locals is due to something bigger than our individual personalities.
Maybe the fact that the US local cops cannot actively pull over people who look illegal and deport them ... and other laws designed to protect illegals from the most overt acts of racism ... maybe that has something to do with it.
I never thought I'd ever quote biblical verse on a whoremonger internet chat board but ... as the Sermon on the Mount says ...
"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy"
and
"Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled"
Is it possible to be a monger and extend (Christian?) kindness unto others (in Mexico)? I think so!
Is it possible to be privileged to live in luxury while neighboring a third-world country and yet extend human decency kindness to those less fortunate? I think so!
We on this board may be stretching a few rules in the area of recreational sex but I think most hombres are overall quality people.
Mean people suck!

By Innocent on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:37 am:  Edit

Remember Christ protected the prostitutes and condemed the lawyers.

By Erip on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 10:44 am:  Edit

WasabiMas been globe hopping?

By Innocent on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:35 am:  Edit

One month in LOS... ;)

By Tight_fit on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 08:33 pm:  Edit

Dick Johnson, sorry if I seemed to misread your words when I parroted them back to you. I am typically watching TV (the Man Show right now), downoading music, and practicing my language lessons while I read what's new on CH. Still, I'll stand by what I said regarding your post(s). Maybe it's more of the tone than the individual words but I think you need to ease up on the illegals and understand that kicking every last one of them out of California is not going to solve the real underlying problems of the state.

By Blazers on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 09:13 pm:  Edit

Baster is right in so many ways....the problem lies directly with the white racist Spanairds and Lebanese who shit on the Mestizos and Native Mexicans and keep the country corrupt. It is near to impossible for many to succeed in Mexico and I understand why they come her BUT they did get their ass kicked and we did compensate them for their ass kicking and ACQUIRED the land. If they wanted to win the land back....they should have sent their military back to the U.S. and got their ass kicked again. I still also feel that most minorities are extremely ethnocentric in the U.S. and much less accepting of other cultures...so quit with the "whitie racist" shit fellas. Oh yeah and Dart's post was the funniest I have read this year..FYI. I am going to fuck a brown bunny tonight in honour of this spirited dialogue and I am going to have her say all of your board names during the session..PI rules

By Masterater on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 10:59 am:  Edit

The US should worry and occupy their forces in keeping people who are a threat to the US, OUT of US soil. At the same time, they should embrace people who have positive intentions and can make positive contributions to society.

I am not mentioning any race, or color, but the INS, the US Goverment, Dick Johnson, Crisco, and you my friend should make judgment on a person based soley on spirit, intentions, and education.

I myself, being 100% mexican, cultured, well intended and educated, have been a victim of racial treatment from INS many, many times soley based on the fact that I was born 200 yards south of the US border.

I have to admire Dick Johnson's honesty. Yes, DJ, sometimes the visual aspect of mexicans in a beach is not as nice as the typical Baywatch, Southern CA, bikni beach view you are used to.

I myself sometimes go to Rosarito Beach, and am embarassed to see my own people leaving their trash on our beach with out any concern.

Deep down DJ, I share your same feelings, Deep down, I too sometimes am forced to feel racist thoughts agianst my own people, for behavior reasons. Deep down I seperate myself, my family, my friends, from native mexicans. BUT, deep down I know this is only an education issue.

I know, that at least the hispanic race is well intended by nature. Yes we need some education, Yes we need to be teached some manners, and Yes, we might need to be teached some fashion and ethics so we can look nice and "blend" in with the US society.

Now, is this the right thing to do? Surrender centuries of one of the world richest cultures to a plastic, superficial one? I dont know.

But what I do know is that walls and borders dont work. Through time, they have been dimolished one way or another.

One day, the US/MEX wall will be taken down. One day the US will embrace Mexicans for what we are worth. One day we Mexicans will learn the meaning of the word respect, to ourselfs and others.

One fine day, Dick Johnson and Crisco will share a beer in a sunny, Southern CA Beach.

Love you all, Masterater

By Kidcisco on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 03:11 pm:  Edit

Masterater,

I have a few questions for you Amigo, What age did you and your family move to the USA? and did your family speak Spanish or English in your home? or allow you to speak either?

It's a shame and very sad that some of today (new and old) immigrants feel in order to so called "BLEND IN" they feel the need to turn their back or put down their whole race or to move away from their own "RICH" culture.

I see some young Asain girls getting (blue/green) contact lens getting their hair treated weekly with color in order to be (blonde) or eat only at McDonlad's or ashame of their parents when ever they are around the friends whenever their parents speak in their native language.

Masterater what are you trying to fit in? are Mexicans the only ones that need Education/Manners ? look at the American schools they score lower then any other Nation and yet you put down your own race I never could respect any (Black/White/Asain/Latino) that put down their own race in order to feel apart of others you want ever fit in if you don't feel good about the postive things you and your race have done.

What make up the USA culture Mastereater? is it (MTV/REAL WORLD/HOT DOG/FEAK TITS/TAN SALONS/SHOTS IN THE LIPS TO MAKE THEM BIGGER/girls having kids at 15/) I can go on for days is this what you want your kids to fit in ?

Mastereater, know matter how much you try or try to fool yourself into thinking or how much you try to move away from your history your people know matter who you marry or were you live or how long you live in the USA you will STILL be viewed as you see yourself and carry yourself with respect.

Either you can make the most of your life and be your own man, and DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT trying to blend in because you WANT ever blend in and the eyes of other.

Just feel the pride in yourself 1st then people will see this in then you will gain respect, some will ALWAYS view you or want to put a label on you as being a dirty IMMIGRANT Mexican know matter how many people like Dick Johnson and other like him asses you kiss.

Your family (wife/kids) will respect MORE for being a man and teaching your kids everything about their history and not to feel ashame of themselves or allow anyone else make or try to make them feel ashame.

Be a hard working Dad husband and your family will look up to you with respect DON'T let them see you kissing asses or talking bad about other Mexicans they will ONLY feel ashame of themselves and not like they see in the mirror if you don't like yourself.

Just because SOME white person rape/kill/blow up shit/ carry KKK flags and wave Rebel flags do you see any other white people feel ashame of themselves? I see Asain gangs all the time doing dumb shit do other hard working Asain family feel ashame of themselves? Blacks that do crime do other hard working Blacks take the blame for other black crimes?

All you can do is take care of yourself and your family and maybe you need to get in touch with your history and take some class or Mexican history and try to MOVE close to your history NOT from it.

If you are 100% Mexican embrace that fact and learn to respect that fact and feel good about yourself if don't who will? if you don't feel good about yourself how do you think your family or your kid will, maybe this what to you maybe your family came her and your learn to HATE your race and learn to feel ashame of yourself if this is the case I really feel sorry for you.

I think Mastereater, your got caught up in the HOLLYWOOD bullshit!! I mean maybe you feel in order to feel apart of or to so-called in your words "blend in" means getting a blonde hair blue eye girlfriend or drive a BMW etc. or set around and put down your own race of people trust me you will only gain NO RESPECT when you show SELF HATE or yourself and your own race from others.

Would you trust a white person or a Black person or a Asain person that feel a dislike or hate of their own people everytime a man do a crime why should I feel the need to take the blame???? I only take the credit or blame for myself.

Mastereater amigo lover yourself and your people man embrace the language/food/dance/music/family/ everything about the the Mexican history is great feel the pride man, don't hate it.

Some people think I feel to mucho of myself guess what I don't give a fuck I know I am the shit and when I walk around or go into a home girls man the like knows when they see me I am someone who know one can tell anything to or make me feel bad about myself I am bless my parents raise me NOT to feel bad about myself or to hate myself I LOVE MYSELF if I don't how can I respect anyone else to???

Most of what Americans like came from other cultures (food/music) etc.

KidCisco

By Masterater on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 04:23 pm:  Edit

Cisco Kid,

I had you on backwards Pancho. I am honored and relieved you can answer one of my post and treat me like a descent human poster.
I now see the real you can actually say something meaningfull without all that hate and bullshit.
I guess DJ really gets to you.

OK, to answer your first three questions, I was born in Mexico, I have never lived in the USA, my parents are Mexicans and while growing up we only speaked in Spanish in MEXICO.

All though I can easy live in the USA, I choose to live, work, and raise my family here in Mexico, where I belong.

Yes, you are right, most americans need a better education in manners, taste, and they have to stop being so damn self-rightess and their ego is way out into outerspace.

When I was expressing the "fitting in" issue, I was not implying that I am doing everything in my powers to fit in. I dont need to, because I dont have to. But, if I decided to imigrate and live and work in the USA, the logical think to do is to fit in that society in order to be respected.

Just the same if a Gringo wants to retire to Mexico or Brazil, he has to make an effort to fit in an live in harmony with society. Its all about respect.

If Mexicans go to Santa Monica Beach, they have to respect the enviroment and surrondings and try to fit in. Its all about adpotation. Plants and animals do it. Why cant we??

About USA culture? (please dont use the word american or americans for USA or gringos, its an insult, we all share the same continent, so we are all americans). Yes Pancho, USA plastic culture does suck, and to fuck it all up the rest of the world craves it like you and me crave good pussy.
Any third world country dies to have the McDonalds, and MTVs in their lives. Most of the USA culture is a disease and it spreads. We do agree on that. Its cheap, common, very easy to digest, and it goes to the throat. Its all about marketing and money.

But, I have to admit it; I go to McDonalds, I watch MTV, I love Rock and Roll, and I enjoy going to the movies just as much as you do. CRISCO, DONT INSULT MY INTELGENCE BY BEING A HYPOCRITE. You are caught up in USA culture like the rest of us pricks.

I am not trying to fool anyone, as much caught up I am in the USA culture, I also enjoy my own mexican culture, I know everything about the REVOLUTION, my Grandfather was a General in it, and I am damn proud of it!

I appreciate your advise and thank you for it, I am enjoying and embracing my language, my music, my familia, my culture.

PAZ!, y la verdad nos hara libres...........

Masterater



By Dick Johnson on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:39 am:  Edit

Masterater, thank you for appreciating my honesty, and stating that deep down inside you share the same feeling. I had a long term monagamous relationship with a U.S. borned Mexican girl who's parents were illegal immigrants. I was proud to be with her and I almost married her. I don't consider myself a racist but if I say I don't have any opinions about any race then I would be a hypocrit. Most of us do have some opinions. But we have to be careful not to generalize or misjudge someone.

Milky, thanks for your support.

Tightfit, when something is stupid, whether it is about the stocks or the war, I just say it as it is and sound like a, for lack of a better word, dick. Again you are suggesting something I have never said, "kicking every last one of them out" are your words, not mine.

I do believe we have to do something about the spiraling numbers. Some guys need to strap on some condoms for sure. I do support tax payer funded public education etc for illegal immigrants.

I am actually more pissed about the system. Free clinics for immigrants faking prescription and treatments stealing tens, if not hundreds of millions from taxpayers. Construction companies hiring illegals to build buildings leaving U.S. construction workers unemployed. Believe it or not drug use(like meth etc)is quite rampant among illegals immigrants.

This issue of illegal immigration, most of you guys know I'm right. Just no one wants to say it.

What cracks me up the most is Kidcrisco on his usual macho psycho flaming mission and ended up being my bitch. Suddenly transformed into a righteous sounding dude.

About Santa Monica Beach, it is the premiere beach in L.A. where million$ were invested in the last few years and it is(and was) a tourist attraction.
www.skylightweb.com/losangeles/santamonica.html
Ironic that I picked up a few Korean tourist girls last weekend and they told me how dissapointed they were at the beach. Used to have lots of tourists and also locals tanning etc on the beach.

But this is not about a nice beach.

Anyway, about Mexican girls in the USA. You guys joked about finding the beach etc. Firstly let me say it isn't like it is full of hot girls on the beach nowadays, far from it. (Before, yes.) I'd also like to add in USA many Mexican girls are Catholics or Christians. Even if they are not they often date mex guys. The same thing with Thai, Brazillian, etc girls. We cannot equate our experiences overseas, esp with working girls, with the girls here. Once they are here the fact that we are from USA is irrelevant and we don't want to be presumptious.

-DJ

By Kidcisco on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:00 pm:  Edit

DICK JOHNSON, didn't I tell you to put on your short pants and your cowboy hat and vest and your RED BOOTS and go OUT ON YOUR BLOCK ON SAN MONICA BLVD. AND BRING ME MY $$$$ YOU DIRTY LITTLE PUNK BITCH.

Don't worry DJ you will always be my bottom HO as long as you bring in my $$$$ you cheap ASS slut.

And I don't care that in is raining outside you already smell like a WET PUPPY, just bring in my $$$ you punk ass BITCH!!!!

Mastereater, I am glad to see that there are a few people on here that I can make my points and see their point of view without things getting out of control, I hope we can openly share different point of views in the coming months.

Some of these FUCKERS LIKE DJ ONLY UNDERSTAND ONE WAY OF ACTING and that is of a PUNK that talk shit here on the site, but run like a punk bitch from 5 year old kids in RIO ha,ha, next time you run up to me and say am I from the USA and ask for my help I am going to trip your punk ass up and let the 5 and 6 years old kids from RIO have their way with your punk ass like the JOHNS/TRICK do when you are out making me some $$$$$ ha,ha,.

KidCisco

By Dick Johnson on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 09:51 pm:  Edit

Now I've turned Kidcrisco back into his true nature - a pimp.

-DJ(CIA)

By The_happy_monge on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:17 pm:  Edit

i agree.. ENGLISH ONLY..


SHOULD BE THE RULE OF THE LAND.

in mehicooo, one speaks spanish
in the states we habla english..


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