By Alecjamer on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 07:45 pm: Edit |
Hombres -
I've been mongering on and off for 20 years now. I know how to get there, where to stay, how to speak the language, how to get around, and where I can find the best talent. I've also dabbled a bit making a few home grown flicks with my personal favoritas for my own home viewing pleasure. I must say, they turned-out pretty damn good.
I'll be retiring from my job in less than 5-years. I'll have a comfortable pension from my first career. But, I'll be young enough that I prefer not to stop working completely. Rather than work for someone else, I was thinking I could invest in some video equipment, start-up my own adult website, then set-out to make videos using the international talent (new crops) I've been "doing" for the past 20-years.
Sounds easy right? I mean, how hard can it be? I've already done the home thing on my own and it was very easy...especially with the newest and relatively inexpensive digital dubbing and mixing movie-making software out there.
Tell me what you all know...how can I be a start-up porno filmmaker? If I film overseas...what do I need to know so that I do not end up in jail, sued, or worse? What are the risks and pitfalls that you know? How much funding will I need to get started...$50K...$100K, or more? What are the rules about importing porn from O/S to the US?
Also, who out there wants to become a porn star?
I look forward to your advice.
Alec
By Xenono on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 11:11 pm: Edit |
I have no specifics in regards to your questions, but I would offer up the following things you should also consider.
1. While there are almost no barriers to entry (anyone can film porn and put up a website), actually getting people to visit it and give you their money is another matter entirely.
2. Most successful porn sites these days seem to be "groups" of sites made under one label or company. One is a cream pie site, another is a blowjob site, and another is a lesbian site. Each one caters to a niche. Your $29.95 membership gets you access to ALL the sites. (Another note about this to the general audience if you have a membership to any network of porn sites.) Be sure to cancel and you almost ALWAYS get a discount to something more reasonable like $14.95 or $9.95 instead of the price you signup under.
3. You'll need to find a reliable bandwidth provider that specializes in hosting adult content. If you are putting up videos, expect people to share passwords and to download a LOT of content. You have to have the infrastructure to support this.
4. You are going to have to market your site to get people to visit. There are hundreds of thousands of porn sites on the web. What makes your idea special? What separates your content? What are you offering your visitors? And how much are willing to pay a search engine optimizer or spammer to market your site for you? Unless, of course, you want to just market it yourself.
5. Be sure to retain a good lawyer that specializes in adult and porn law.
6. Be sure all your record keeping is in order and complies with USC 2257.
7. If you aren't updating your content at least once a week, you'll need to. People will need a reason to keep coming back. You'll constantly need to be shooting new content to keep the site fresh. Otherwise, people will download and cancel.
8. It may sound like a good idea at the surface to just grab a camera and start filming. I would offer that it, like any other business, needs to be carefully thought out and planned. How committed to it are you? Are you willing to do what it takes to be successful? I think your biggest problem will be competing with the thousands of other sites already out there and getting visitors to your sites. I think your second biggest issue will be making sure you comply with all the US federal laws regarding making porn and then any laws that apply in the country you are filming in.
That is just a list off the top of my head. Another member here at CH seems to be setting up something similar in Brazil. He probably has a lot more experience with the specifics that are needed and maybe he will chime in.
By Murasaki on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 08:03 pm: Edit |
Also spend some time reading some of the websites that cater to people who run adult sites. Start with this one: http://www.ynot.com/welcome.php
And you will need signed releases from your models. Get a release translated into the language of whatever country you'll be filming your models. As part of the code Xen mentions above, you'll need to maintain proof of age, so photocopy or take digital photographs of their ID cards.
By Alecjamer on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:09 pm: Edit |
Thanks for the input.
When it comes to porn, I simply hate the scene to scene of same old routine...suck the cock, eat the pussy, cowgirl, doggy, on back, then ejaculate on the tits or in mouth. I mean...do we average Joebagodonuts always cum on their tits or in their mouth when we are simply out to get our rocks off? Either I am too old or too lazy to take my cock from a very nice hot pussy then climb my way up to her tits and or mouth to bust a nut. Maybe its just me, but I don't want to take the chance that I will lose "that good feeling" in the middle of my journey then only dribble a little, then fart?
I like the cream pie genre...I like the interracial genre...I like a mix of both. But, too often I see pasty white chics taking a cream pie and it makes me want to puke...why other white guys like pasty white chicks I'll never understand. Now a brother fucking a pasty white chic I can get...just like when I slam my white and slightly pink cock into a black or morena chica...it is different...it is against tradition or not socially accepted behavior in most crowds...yes, I'm a rule breaker and I enjoy it. That's what makes it fun and worthwhile.
Rodney Moore made a few interesting flicks and he finds some pretty healthy looking sistas to fuck, but he really fucks up when he gives them his infamous Rodney Blast to the face or tits. I guy with a massive load like that should dump it in the chica, let it drip halfway out, then slam it all back in again for good measure, IMHO. Especially white cum on a hairy black pussy...films much nicer than white on white...if you know what I mean.
He also received an award for his flick with the real estate agent desperate to rent him an apartment. The American white chick was a real nieve skank with big tits and ass...but the deception and trickery in the film was simply inspirational...nothing like seeing a chica suddenly realize she got conned into fucking an average looking dweeb...and still may NOT get the sale. Excellent and fun flick IMHO. I could hardly wait to see Rodney hose her.
Also, we never see many pregos or lactating flicks. Those we do see are usually very lame. I fucked a few pregos in the PI...and for those of you who never fucked a prego...they fuck just as nicely as chicas without a bun in the oven. I also sometimes come across chicas with tits that are full of milk. If I only had a video camera for the chica I fucked in Panama maybe 5-years ago...she literally could not stop the milk from squirting from her tits while I fucked her. When we finished we were covered in milk...it was pooled between her melon tits, on her belly and dripping down her ribs and it was still oozing from her nipples as if they sprung a leak.
Some guys may think that is disgusting...I thought it was pretty cool...why? Because you can never see something like that from Hollywood porn! And most guys who monger rarely find chicas loaded with milk. And sometimes chicas loaded with milk...milk themselves dry before fucking...or cover their tits with bra and shirt.
This is the kind of stuff I want to catch on film...but, I want to also give the story line a little deception and trickery to make it naughty and fun. Like the time a semi-pro tried to pick me up in a disco in Panama. I played I was a nubie...just stepped off the boat...knew nothing about Panama and Panamanian women. I knew she was a hooker when she casually took the seat next to me in the bar. But I smoozed the hell out of her and got her to the point that she thought it was best not to reveal to me that she was a hooker, but instead a nice girl looking for a boyfriend. I convinced her that she was the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. (She was maybe a 5.5 or so). But, I fucked her for free that night...real hard. The next day I bought her a plate of spaghetti and gave her $25 just to leave. She left thinking I still didn't know she was a hooker. I got her name an number...I'll probably fuck her again on my next trip...she was full bodied...full tits...excellent ass...not fat, but meaty...I hate anorexia looking chicas too...makes me think they are tainted with AIDs.
Oh well, I'm rambling...but I've got ideas.
Ciao,
Alec
By Don Marco on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 03:47 pm: Edit |
there's a good size market for cream pie flicks-- I can attest to that.
-DM
master creamer and dreamer
By Don Marco on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 03:55 pm: Edit |
As for being in a porno, I tried it once and it was damn hard to keep it up with everyone telling me what to do, what not to do, and when to do it. It was also covered, which was the straw that broke the camels back *cough*. I would like it if it was gonzo-eske style. The theme of "DM inserts his dick until he's balls deep in her mouth then gives her a good ridin till a pool of primordial goo comes hither" sounds good to me.
Now that has a ring eh?