BACK TO BASICS:

For those of you who don’t know, negotiating is 80% preparation, and 10% intuitiveness, 10% art.

Know your client, It’s best to understand why you’re negotiating before you negotiate.

If only I had a dollar everytime I spoke to a monger and he said, I want pussy. He went to the room and came down and said, She’s not really what I wanted, better luck next time.

I know what he wanted more than he did. He wants some gals to listen to him when he talks, he wants to go to the room, her to take off his clothes and French kiss him, screw him like a girlfriend. He may even want to he her climax too. Or just spend a few minutes afterwards and pet each other.
That usually doesn’t happen, why? Because you didn’t TELL her what you expect from her. So you turn into just another John with a fat wallet. No conversation, No intimacy. That may be fun in your dreams, but in real life that “Sucks”.


She’s done her homework; she’s there 10hrs a day 6 or 7 days a week. She’s a true PRO; most of those gals make you guys look like “quire boys”
However, we have something they don’t have. Education! I not saying were smarter then them. No, it’s obvious they’re using both sides of their brains. And was still only using our lonely cocks to think. It’s not there fault, it’s ours. I not a psychology major or a genius, but I’ve been with perhaps 600 gals and they really do “Think” different then men. Although women love men that are very successful they also, love to consul men that are down on their luck. That’s why you’ll see the most beautiful gals with skumbags. Yes most are looking for someone to take care of them. I.e. (Pay lots of money) But they’ll never and can’t pass-up a guy that is down on his luck. It’s an instinct that’s thousands of years old.

My x-girlfriend Veronica in Mazatlan has a sister that’s was 19 years old, she was dating the owner of a Gym, called Ego’s Gym in Mazatlan, this guys was young handsome and rich in comparison to most Mexicans. She also was seeing another guy, he was divorced, no job, close to 40 years old and lived with his parents. She ended up marrying the old divorced guy. Veronica’s father was so upset, he offered to pay the old guy to go way. Eventually, she married the old guy and Veronica’s dad bought a bicycle with a basket in front so he can sell Tamales, and other crap. Veronica and her sisters had to wake up at 5:30am to start to make the food for him to sell, many days he wouldn’t even wake-up. So, she would ride the bike to make a few pesos. I would go there almost everyday and the dad would be so mad because the sisters and mother would all be trying to help him and not make the dad breakfast.

To those of you who don’t know, I actually have spent many years just bargaining with gals with “NO” intention to fucking them. I have told every lie emagionalble. From “I just got fired” to “You don’t get paid when your in prison” There’s three approaches that best. I know really hate to lie. And I respect that very much, and I’ve been very successful with gals just plain talking and bargaining. And I’ll touch that method in a few days. However, the most successful method is by far, the “Sympathy method”. It works so well, it’s rather redictuls.


Again, for those of you who can’t lie. I’ll post the honest method too. It’s not much more than start by telling the gal about a real sad luck experience. With a moral, if possible. And the moral should be how you lost respect in women, and you want to regain their respect. Remember, it’s a story about “YOU” getting fucked not your “X’



#1. My whole family just got killed in a tragic accident.
This is the full proof method, I’ve literally had strangers giving me cigarettes, and other stuff for free. I’ve gotten all niters; so much it’s impossible to list.
#2. My girlfriend just left me, here’s her photo.
Get yourself a photo of any gals. Make up a sad luck story and you’re in like flint.
#3. I just got a divorce and I’m really feeling bad.
Most of the gals are quite young and had been divorced too. It’s best to tell them in both cases that your gals left for a very rich guy, and you aren’t rich.

Of course what your trying to do is to appeal to the woman’s motherly instinct to consul you and to make you feel better. Also, your story is so interesting that she’ll be riveted to you. However, never forget your real goal, you’re trying to findout if you can fuck this gal.
After a while or so and she’s totally into your story. And hopefully she’s feeling sorry for you. Start to talk about sex and how you want to have a “Special” gal, a girlfriend type of gal. You want to make her a regular that gets their calculator calculating. They think, Wow! I would like to have a guy that comes back and back and back. Of course she has to know you don’t have much money. You just lost it gambling, and you need the rest for gas food and your kids, that are in the hospital, do to the stove that blew-up while your grandmother was making tamales, you favorite food in the whole world.

Do you see what I’m doing, these gals can identify with “Tamales” stoves that blow-up, children in hospitals, lose money gambling. Etc.… That’s what they grew up with, that’s what they know. You have to make a situation that familiar to them. You’ll be the most interesting American they’ve ever met. Because of Mexico’s lack of safety standards and unsanitary conditions. You may think that you’re going a little overboard. But believe me, your not! These people have REAL stories that make my best look like nothing.

Next I’ll tell you how to “Seal the Deal”

For those of you that are getting a little bord with the same day after day stuff, this method will add a little "wood to the fire", It makes the game fun again. I wouldn't have lasted 20 years without doing this.

Wait tell I get into the street gals. You guys will shit. They're a lot funner then the AB gals, because the AB gals are rather predictible in compareson to the street gals...

Westfargo...

THIS is entertainment!!! CLASSIC!

Fargo,

I remember the story about the stove blowing up and killing your whole family...I believe you posted that on RS, but it's worth another visit so look forward to your retelling.

The one I recall, though not as entertaining, was one you used on one of my then faves about the 2nd or 3rd time I ever spoke to you. We were under the heater and I pointed her out, she saw me looking at her and we exchanged subtle waves. You of course took out your trusty Fargo flashlight and I believe Roger did the same and you guys started shining them on me! HAH! Anyways she came over and the ever common question "you want to go to the room?" this was very early in my "career" and was easy fodder for her.

Guys, here's classic Fargoism at work. He immediately went into a story about how he loved and cared about women so much he sold his blood so he could give them things. Then he told her about how he had to live in the trees because he spent all his money on the girls. Now to be honest, later on she said "What's wrong with you friend?" but!!!!....in future sessions with her....while I was still coughing up 40 bucks I almost always got at least 45 minutes and often more time.

If you think reading his stuff online is pretty amazing, try watching him in action...the looks on the girls faces is amazing as he goes on...they soak it up all the way.

WF! Welcome back Dude! I'm a sponge - teach me how to seal the deal!

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He wants some gals to listen to him when he talks, he wants to go to the room, her to take off his clothes and French kiss him, screw him like a girlfriend. He may even want to he her climax too. Or just spend a few minutes afterwards and pet each other.


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WestFargo you are my hero! This is exactly what I want - funny- I just assumed that most other mongers wanted "sport fuck," and or a "trophie fuck." sessions. Man - you have good intuition for a bad speller.

I know you don't hate Mexicans - but you sound like a "Rudy" of Survivor to me. For those who did not watch Survivor- Rudy was a retired hard core Navy Seal - who detested gays - called them "fags" and kept away from them - however, Rudy and Richard (the gay guy who won Survivor) became loyal to eachother and ended up with mutual respect.

Good Karma to you WF !

Another dazzling piece of work, Westfargo. Donald Trump meets Machiavelli en la zona.

20 years in the game and still make coming down hard on 'em bitches bro Ritmo might conclude!

Hell I think I've been used by these chicas more than once, I think is time for us to listen to our corner and watch for the hook! Thanks coach WF.

"Now to be honest, later on she said "What's wrong with you friend?"

Did she say that to you or W.F.?

Moi.

I just said "he's a gringo, you know" and she nodded her head.

redictuls ??

Damn WF... I haven't been around these message boards for a few months and am glad to see you're still putting out the classics. Keep up the good work.
NCsnake

Redongo,
I remember that time I laid it on to your gal. Sorry! I just couldn't help it. That was Ruth, right? Actually I really liked her. I could tell she was a good girl, but she was so used to having all the Americans just cum and go that she confused you with just another john.

Ncsnake,
Redictuls?? Fucking keyboard!

Meatleboots,
I'm very homophobic, however, I sort of admire them for there curage, just like the gals. It must take something special that I don't have to suck a dick and be proud of it!


Westfargo...

Fargo for president, someone please impeach Fox!!!
WestFargo - did you get your name from the bar on Aguas Caliente? Just curious? Heres a thought,
perhaps you can write a book called:
MEN ARE FROM THE U.S. WOMEN ARE FROM MEXICO
Much like the book 'Men-mars Women-venus'. I promise I will purchase the first copy then distribute the remaining thousands to every monger that walks the zone ;-)!

Your tales from the zone rival tales from the crypt! I mean, exploding pots and pans and stoves, tamales, sick children in hospitals, lack of safty standards, dad or uncles gambling away small fortunes....CLASSIC CLASSIC CLASSIC!!!!!!

Yet lets try another story thats sure to hit home.
Guys if you are listening, grab a pen and some paper or hit the print screen cause this story of pity may help reduce the price of getting laid....

Tell the girl you just met that you just got out of a relationship and are sure to get divorced! Those puppy dog eyes can relate since after all, they are there cause they broke up with their novios/amantes/esposos. Then tell them that the girl you once loved and shared you heart and soul was a girl you met in the very bar that you are in. You might say you are there because you are in 'closure' and need to be here to close all those wounds your heart currently has. Remember, the girls have been there, done that and can relate to the hundreds of lost loves they have met at the very bar you are at, guys get it so far, its all relational and they know exactly how you feel.

Then, you tell the girl that you perhaps would like to just sit and talk and perhaps clear your mind yet tell her that she has made you feel better and you have just started to forget your past problems. Get me so far, the girls are now the motherly figures and are nuturing their children back to health yet its us they are nuturing. I once had 3 girls at the same time believing my story......all 3 were interested in keeping me company and felt close to me because I had been with a girl from their bar, you know, now you are in the clique ;-) with them.

Then after you are nearly into tears and the girls are soaking it all in, the girls have let down their guard and their protective shields....
now its time to turn the tables. Now you don't have to be the client buying drinks all nite for their company, now you are the preditor or the wolf after some sheep who mysteriously wandered out of the flock ;-).

You have now gained their confidence, they all now want to 'help' you get over that girl who left you for another guy. They will more than likely let you party with them for the rest of the nite for FREE and perhaps like my last experience, you will get session discounts ;-).
I honestly can tell you that the price after your
major story will equal a SG price! Yes my friends, the wellsfargnion theory has truth to its equation. You can turn the tables around cause i'm living proof! The girl on my lap fondling me after my heartbreaking story was wispering in my ear...."pari ti mi amor, mi priceo para vieja en la cama es muy barato". Sniff....sniff.....just by remembering my made up tale it brings tears to my eyes..........NOT ;-)

Remember guys, its about time we turn the tables around cause we have been jerked, conned, ripped off, lied to, tit whipped (yet I liked this), played with, laughed at, taken advantage of, its only fair game that the hunted now becomes the hunter. Like Mr. Fargo says, we are very educated and that we have alot going for us yet we do the thinking with the little head!

Plan a stradegy before even walking into your favorite bar and have this message printed and placed in your palm, follow directions, and you will be the Donald Trump, trumping chicas left and right. Yet don't be surprised that you will become the center of attention. Oh, and a word to the wise, don't go for a girl right away when it seems 'to good to be true', take your sweet time and filter out the girls you really want as opposed to the girls that want you!

My fee for this valuable counseltation is measured in 'cerveza'. If this works 100% then I expect a cold caraba de corona, if this does not work as well yet a little bit, you must puchase me a cicklette ;-). Good luck, bueno suerte' and it will help if you can habla en espanol cuando tu dece tu malo nostroria con una chica.

Raiders.

Oh..No...Now we will have 20 guys at A.D. and 5 guys at C.C every night balling their eyes out to chicas with their hands up their skirts...while doing a low five to their monger friend next to them...L.O.L. The zona will be bankrupt in a month!

In case any of ya'll can't get "enuf" of WestFargo, there is alot of good old stuff over on Redsnake in this thread

http://www.redsnake.com/discus/messages/5/366.html?965177597

The title of this thread was WestFargo - Fact or Fiction.

God damn, this is brilliant! I had always foolishly tried to come across as someone stable and desirable (which is really a tough act for me to sell, anyway), and which was really just setting me up to be a mark, as often as not . . . when, by being a poor chump who has fallen on hard times, I could be someone they could actually relate to, and want to make happy!!!

Thanks for the epiphany, carnales!

kendricks

"The title of this thread was WestFargo - Fact or Fiction."

Dang! What an amazing thread.
Who started that thread anyway?

is that NCSnake from Colorado? If so welcome.

Raiders,
I love your thread. You've got your shit together. However, try it! It's fun and the gals will love you...

Westfargo...

694me,
Nope, but I have spent some serious time in Boulder over the years. I ran Redsnake.com for the couple of years it existed and WF posted some hilarious shit there occasionally. Glad to see he's still in the game and continuing to break new ground in the art of wordsmithing and "story" telling.
NCsnake

Thats "word smiththing" in Westfargospeak.

Westfargo,

You're freaking hilarious! I love it!

-Mr416

Mr416,
Thanks, but I don't try to be funny. I'm totally serious. I tired to getting jacked and seeing my fellow Americans get jacked too. Last night I was with Roger and a Mexican guy just started to talk to me telling me how much he likes America. I told him I do too. But I also think Mexico has a lot of potential. I knew his intentions, before he knew his intentions. He said tonight is two for one. Do you want my drink. Normally I was take it and drink fast and run like his fellow female whores. However, I just wasn't in the mood. Then he polished off his drink in one second. Gulp! gave me a salute. I said, Roger! It's going to happen. Roger, knows every trick in the book too. This was in the Miami. The guy natually said, do you want a drink? Roger and I said, Yes. Then the guy left the table, then a waitrest came buy with two drinks one for him and left it on his table and one for Roger. Roger gulped the whole thing down in one second. Gulp! And Roger and I stud up and told the waitrest, good bye! She said, no! no! you have to pay. I told her that the guy is paying and were leaving. The guy came out of no where. Roger just kept walking. The guy said, you pay! you invited me. I just said, Good bye! and I left.
About 30 minutes later Roger and I were talking to a couple of whores on the street, when the guy came up to us with all smiles. And said there was a mistake. He wants to go into the Valintos to buy us a drink. Roger said, Man! you just don't know when to quit. Go find some other suckers. And then in good english, he said, Fuck you, you piece of shit whitie Americans...

There were two other incendents just like that in the Gloria with Roger and I. We always take the beer's given to us then we high tail it out of there in a hurry. 90% of all the Mexicans that buy us drinks and say we love Americans, are trying to scam us. So we just take the drinks an run. It's the most hilarious thing. Yes some guys are ligitmant. However, were doing them a favor. They souldn't speak to strangers. As Roger puts it! Again, there's a whole new world out there for those of you who dare to leave the Alice in Wonderland world of the AB club...

Westfargo...

Westfargo -- Sure he wasn't GAY?

Westfargo-Been using some of your pointers on my last couple of trips.Its working for me. I'm saving quite a bit of cash. Thanks for the usefull information

Buckfut,
Thanks, I look forward to seeing you on the street. If you see anybody that doesn't look like should be in the zona, i.e. looks like superman. It may be me. Just come up and say, "Hi" But never tug in my cape, that's like spitting into the wind!

Westfargo...