The Experts Guide to Street Gals:

Street gals are AB gals that lack the romance and intimacy that the AB gals can get. There are many mongers that fall in love with AB gals. why? They get a familiar environment that last 30 minutes or more. Remember all the gals in the zona are businesswomen and they offer a “Standard” package.
The AB package is a $10, 30 minute room, 3 positions, take off all the clothes, $50 fuck, shower for a grand total of $60.
The street offers a $3, 15 minute room, 1 position, no shower, $10 fuck, for a grand total of $13.

What are the differences between the street gals and the AB gals. Nothing! Anatomically they are identical. Their backgrounds are identical, alcoholic father, abused, battered, molested at 3 years old, left home for having a child at 11 years old. Etc… For 20 years I’ve spent the night with many of them and they’ve told me stories that even made me cry. However, they are experts at what they do, and their job is to extract money from you at almost any cost. Their mongers in reverse so their stories are problely like the one’s I tell them. But knowing psychology a little it usually takes a rather severely abused gal to start a life of prostitution. Why? There are millions of Mexicans gals that aren’t prostitutes that have been abused too. That’s why when ever I speak to a monger that in LOVE with one of these gals. I know what type of gal she is, and she’s just laughing and laughing. Even if he’s somehow getting fucked for free, it’s not for free. But the free one’s are rear, usually the monger that’s in love still has to pay her. I’m relatively sure that the monger had been molested when he was 3 years old too. Because there’s millions of them that aren’t prostitutes that are right around the corner that would give their left tit to have an American boyfriend to love. And their so easy to get. That’s why!

However, remember the “Rules of Engagement” bargaining is a way of life for them, as a matter of fact it’s the way 95% of the world conducts business. Of course, in an economics course I had in college many years ago the professor told us that’s why the US and Europe are #1 and the rest are stuck in poverty. And I’m a Manufacturing guru and I think he’s right. Is that all goods sold are costed, and a proper forecast to maintain your business is based on counting on selling your goods at a set price, give or take a few percentage points. Bargaining is very healthy in a democracy however; it’s also the kiss of death too. But we are not there to change them or to interrupt the natural flow in the world, when in Rome do as the Romans do.

Talk to them, if you can’t speak Spanish, use sign laughage, point and stuff. It’s doesn’t matter how you do it, your developing a relationship.
Street gals are less interested in sad luck stories about your personal life. Remember theirs is worse than what your imagination can dream up. They’re more interested about how fuck-up the United States is. Remember, Mexico has a rather extensive class system. That’s politically correct for, If you don’t look “Spanish” your at the bottom of the barrel. They hate rich anybody. And it gets them really pissed off to see us getting richer. So I concentrate about how big the potholes are on the dirt roads next to my house. I say, yes Americans have money, but the government steals it from us, we do everything illegal to hide it from the shitty government. They eat it up. By this time their loving every moment of it.

Unlike AB gals that about 50% and depending on how much money your willing to pay, will keep their words on what you want after entering the rooms.
If you’re an armature and they’ll know that after 1 second of talking to you, their mission will be to get you in and out of the room as fast as possible. It’s the same in the AB bar. The way the test you is, “Lets go to the room!” if you say, Yes, you’re an armature sucker.
What you should do is, tell them exactly what you want. Give them a step-by-step narration of what’s going to happen in the room. Don’t have your back to the sidewalk on the street. I was just mugged last month doing that. 99% I do it right, lean up against the wall, but at that moment, for a split second I was trying to close the deal, and I dropped my guard and “WAM” remember, they are watching you every moment you are in the zona, and as soon as they find a weakness the strike and strike hard. NEVER drop you guard. That’s an other story.
Tell them what you want 3 or 4 times. If they don’t want to listen, go to another gal. They’re not worth it. Also, Only take the gals for 30 minutes. I NEVER do them for 15 minutes. You can’t do anything in 15 minutes, plus the room is $2 extra for 30 minutes, plus the gal will ask for a couple of buck extra. Just say NO! Remember, you’re the client, your doing her a favor. Why do I say that? There hundreds or others you can go too. That’s why! And if they weren’t there there millions of non-prostitutes that would give there left tit to be seen with you for free! Get the picture, you pay for them, they don’t pay for you. You have worth. You have self-esteem. Don’t forget it! I love the mongers that say, I have a high self-esteem and get offended, their the worst one’s. They can’t even tell a 19 years old girl what they want. Pretty pathetic! We are all like alcoholics, or fuck-a-holics. Just accept it. I’m tired of all you guys stuck in ruts, doing the same stupid thing trying to prove to me your doing a good job. I’ve only seen 1 or 2 guys that have truly impressed me. The rest are ugly niece Americans that get drunk that can’t even feel you dick, and have a hard time getting it up and are afraid of confronting the girls.
After you’ve told them 2 or 3 times and they haven’t said go away. Your fairly sure they like you. Make sure you have their attention and their looking at you when you are talking to them. Most have some sort of from of ADD. Attention Defect syndrome. Seriously, they can’t stand still for a minute or two. Yes, they do stand all day in one spot. But they can’t concentrate. I pass them up in a heartbeat. If the gal doesn’t look at you, she’s a piece of shit. Go find another. There’s many more.
Don’t judge a book by its cover or don’t fall for a pretty face. Most of them are used to getting away with murder. Be careful, you might get all the wrong indications and say, wow! She’s so pretty and get royally fucked. Make sure you don’t pay her until after YOU’RE through, remember, YOU’RE through, not her, not the room. Again, 30 minutes should be enough time. Don’t take her if you don’t think you can cum within 30 minutes. It’s a 50/50 bargain. But remember, she’ll give you a lot more clearance if you pay after. If she gets to the room and say’s, MONEY! “Mi pagas” say NO, remember, after!, if she says no! now. Show her the money, and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, give her a dime. She’s banking that she NOT going to give you everything and your going to leave, and if you leave she still has half of you money. She’s a piece of shit and I would leave at once. I’ve been in that situation many many times, JUST LEAVE. It’s fair for her and you. You want 100%, you free her up to get another customer and you can find another gal. She learned a lesson, and you learned a lesson. The next monger will have a better time, because she’ll be a little more careful. There more intuitive than all of us put together, she knows what she doing. It’s like she just got a speeding ticket. She’ll slow down for a while. You’re really doing her a favor. Because if no one stops her she only hurting herself. After all she’s there to make money. But she doesn’t have the education and discipline that we have. She’s learning too.

When your finished, make sure you only show her the money you’re supposed to pay her. They have memories like elephants, and they’ll ask for tips and stuff. I would give tips it they did anything above and beyond the call of duty. But doing what we agree on is rather though for them so I don’t give tips…

Also, after practicing and practicing, try to take the street gal to a nice little hotel and pay for a few houses. They usually give a lot more loving then the AB gals when away from the envirement. They're so used to fuck and run, they really want to spend a little romantic time with a guy they can trust...

Next will be the amatures guide to street gals.

Westfargo…

Superb essay with a lot of anecdotal information. There are several paramount lessons to be learned, not the least of which is to watch your back AT ALL TIMES. I think everyone that goes down there much is guilty of dropping their guard in some situations. The only reason they did'nt get got, is because they were LUCKY. Don't depend on luck. Thanks Westfargo for reminding us of this #1 fact.

Westfargo, I bow for your experise. I read that you truely developed this essay over years of mongering. Isn't it great to be good in what you do!? I strive to become one of the monger masters myself, but have been distracted so many times.
One question though: I have never been good in negatiating the price, but never budge on what I want: for $20 always sucky, sometimes fucky, 30 minutes. Most recently I find myself talking to more and more SG who simply would not agree to provide this for my offer.
One girl I spoke to 3 times in one night. I wonder if she now thinks I am a sucker, or will she consider negotiating with me in future. BTW, I did not buy her service.

Robertx,
Your are almost a master. Thats the way to do it with the gal that you wanted 3 times. Your offering way to much in my oppinion. If you were to have started with $8 you would be fucking for $12 that first night or $10 right about now. Just let her know you like her and you want her. Give her a piece of gum everytime you walk by, let her know your waiting. I lot of guys don't know this. But I rearly fuck a gal I first meet. I almost alway meet her and talk to her for a few weeks before negociating with her. Thats one of the reasons I'm so successful. However, $20 is way to much to offer a gal on the street. She's waiting for $30. Just stick with $20 and let her know you like her. But when she says, make triple sure she knows you ONLY pay afterwards and she needs to do 100%. I even tell them I'll walk out of the room if they don't do it right, without paying them. They agree...

Westfargo...

WestFargo sez:

"I was just mugged last month doing that. "

You were mugged!!!

Westfargo, you make several good points. Great post!

It never occoured to me to make sure the session was for 30 minutes instead of 15.
I did a SG in the alley and they knocked in 10 minutes. I knew this hotel has that reputation for knocking so fast, but it totally pissed me off thinking I only had 5 minutes left. I didn't finish! This hotel I belive is just down from Valentinas bar. NEVER AGAIN!!

I usually do SGs at my hotel Cascadas and I don't mind paying them $20. The session usually last untill i'm finished, 20-30 minutes.

Another good hotel to use it the one where the SGs infront of Odessa bar use. Its across the street and I don't think i've ever gotten the knock there.

Anyway as far as SGs go...I think I am finished for the most part. Not really worth the hastle to save a few bucks.

Thanks West your the Best!!!..mas mas mas..por favor
SB

Salsa Boy,

What's up? You've been MIA there for a while.

Did you ever make it to Thailand, Costa Rica or the Phillippines?

Harry

Hi Harold_johnson,
No not yet...I hope to hit the Pacific Rim in June or July. My job has been keeping me extremly busy lately. I have not been to the Zona latley but hope to soon, maybe next month. I'm still 50/50 on Bangkok or Angeles, what do you think? please refresh my memory. What about you HJ been hitting AB's or CC's latley?
SB

Great post WF. I've been looking forward to your take on the SG girl scene. I personally have much more fun with the street chicas. I always get a room down in La Zona and will only fuck them if they come back to my room. Once in MY room I'm in charge. I now have three SGs that I have a great time with. On a couple of occasions I've spent over 2 hours in my room and only spent $15.00 dollars. I've found a system that works pretty good for me. If I see a chica I want to fuck I'll stand across the street from her and begin the typical "eye contact" bullshit. When I know she's signaling me I'll wave her over to me. If she doesn't move she's not worth it. If she comes across the street I've already won half the battle. You're SO right about the real pretty faced girls - they're usually not worth the effort. I've pumped away on some chicas that had killer bodies but had faces that could melt paint off a car. I also like working the older chicas. They are much more willing to please and have taken me to the "dark-side" on many occasions!

Keep of the posts. One day I'd love to work the "alley girls" with you. ... another loyal reader (prog)

Westfargo,
you wont believe but this SG actually dared to quote $70 for 30 hour at my hotel. I took that as her refusing to go to my Hotel.
I will see what happens on my next visit. I also will try to get the others at least for $10. So far I could not get myself to negotiate a girl down from $20 for sucky and fucky.
But I am learning. Of course for US standards it sounds ridiculous to get a ho to fuck you for less, but I am very happy to adjust.
Thanks Master :-:

Salsa Boy,

Remember, I spent the first three weeks of March in the LOS. Love that place. Just can't get enough. Me and Ezgab. About two weeks after coming back we paid a visit to both AB and CC. Looking for my ATF. She was no where to be found. That's OK, I'm real good at making the best of a bad situation. Didn't take me long to find a hottie. Too bad she was headed home the very next day. Anyway, most likely going Memorial weekend to TJ. And believe me it's going to be memorable. So if you get a chance come on down, maybe we'll run in to each other.

Harry

$70 for 30 hours? Sounds like a deal to me, even $70 for 3 hours if she's a hot SG isn't bad at all IMHO, hehe

Progman,
You and I are deffently on the same wavelength. 2hrs for $15, now that GOOD! I usually don’t meet street savvy monger on the web. But welcome. The world for us is so lonely. Sometime I just wish I didn’t know as much as I did. I just wish I could just stick my dick and wallet in a machine and when I come feel good, because that’s what happening to those other poor mongers that aren’t in the KNOW. Especially the AB mongers. They remind me of my little children all 84 or so of them they all say, yes yes yes and go do the opposite. They just don’t listen… I have busy schedules Christmas and Easter.

Robertx,
Keep up the good work. Remember, for every no you get closer to a yes. Again, if they aren’t willing to pay your price, then they don’t like you anyway. Plus you can blame it on those other Americans that aren’t in the KNOW. But it’s not their fault. It’s like the movie Matrix, we just need to be patient and educate them. Also, I had a SG quote me $50, 6 months ago. I ended up fucking and I think getting her sister pregnant for $10 for over an hour. It was her fault, she wanted it. Her name is Monica 18 years old and she lives with a monger. She stands next to the phone place. She loves to play with herself too. Who was the $70 gal? Or was it 70 pesos. I only pay in pesos. Remember, there are truly some whores that won’t fuck Americans for anything! And I mean it. I had one about 10 years ago that got raped by a few Americans and I would have to fuck her with the door open in the Ribera hotel. About 3 inches, she said since she knew me shell do me but no other American in the world. Period!

Altgringo,
I’m with you. I don’t like to see any gal charging $70, what a rip-off. Especially since her friends will fuck for $10 30 minutes.

WF: "I ended up fucking and I think getting her
sister pregnant for $10 for over an hour. It was her fault, she wanted it."

You said everything anybody need to know about your character right there, bro...

"ON JUDGMENT

There is so much good in the worst of us,
and so much bad in the best of us,
that it ill behaves any of us
to find fault with the rest of us."

James Truslow Adams

from Investor's Business Daily, April 9, 2001

Well, I disagree with Mr. Adams, so there--nyah, nyah, nyah nyah nyah. And btw, I think I'd be lookin' for my philosophy somewhere other than Investor's Business Daily, if I were you. Though actually, that pretty much explains your whole perspective--the businessman, just tryin' to get tips to help him get ahead, and moral principles seem to be secondary in that pursuit. You wanna stack up quotations from fancy thinkers, then how's about Chesterton, who once said something like "Tolerance is the virtue of men without convictions." In general, in fact, you won't find too many people more tolerant than I am, but my tolerance has limits, and it ends when dudes talk glibly about getting working girl's pregnant (as WF does ALL THE TIME) and then blaming them for it. Maybe in your worldview, Rick, there's no way to criticize that. If that's the case, well, I don't want your worldview, all I can say. Luckily, I got one of my own already. Btw, thought you weren't talkin' to me anymore 'cause I'm such a bad, mean person?

Ritmo,

I think you could learn a little something from the Mexican culture. The Zona Roja is a "zona de tolerancia" - that means they "tolerate" prostitution. Not approve but tolerate.

"tolerance - the act or practice of tolerating; sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from one's own.
tolerate - to allow to be or to be done without hindrance" The Merriam-Webster Dictionary

So far your posts have been INTOLERANT of anyone who has different beliefs than yours.
Mexican has a heart big enough to tolerate prostitution. Are you big enough to tolerate people with different beliefs and values than yours?

Westfargo is limiting himself to this thread. You've made your point that you don't approve of him. We got it. Your continuing attacks are getting old and don't add anything to the discussion. Why don't you start your own thread and tolerate without hindrance those of us that enjoy Westfargo. I promise I will skip over your thread, not read it, and not hinder you.

Regards,
RickFeliz

Lemme get this straight, Professor Rick--disagreeing with YOU and people you like = being intolerant of EVERYONE who has different beliefs than I got? That's some funny shit, dude! Serious, whatchu smokin', bro, and where can I get some? That shit will come as a surprise to all the other people here I disagree with but tolerate perfectly well--e.g., bros who prefer to AB to Miami (ya'll just don't know whatcha talkin' bout!), bros who like TJ by night but not by day, bros who don't even like Salma Hayek (shout out to Brother Progman--but, dude, you WAY off on this one!). If you was in MY university, Dr. Feliz, you'da got fired a long time ago, 'cause your reasoning skills need some work. In Dr. Feliz's world, if someone criticizes anybody for anything, that means they're 'intolerant'--ya gotta accept EVERYTHING and keep ya mouth shut. Like 'tolerance' in the zona means you can do ANYTHING ya want! Which zona you goin' to, Prof? Where I'm from, you expect criticism when you take a stand, 'cause ya know somebody's gonna disagree witcha, 'cause everybody's got they opinion.


Maybe tha problem here is Dr. Feliz gotta worm-like way of looking at the world--I'm OK, you're OK, let's all get along nice like little spineless jellyfish--yes, Dr. Feliz, at last a personalistic observation (so you can easily reject everything else I said by claiming there ain't no substance and only insults--would be a lot harder to acknowledge that it's way more complicated than that, but complexity ain't the Professor's speciality), based on your way of constantly avoiding dealing with any troubling things WF says (or, let's hear it, Doc, do you think it's OK to get chicas pregnant purposely and then blame it on them, stupid bitches that they MUST be, after all--and do you think this kinda thinking has NOTHING to do with WF's general view of Mexico and the mongering thang? But never mind--I know ya can't be bothered to take a stand on anything--you too 'tolerant' to do that, huh?) and just falling back on the ridiculous-ass idea that 'tolerance' means you can't disagree with nothin'. A pretty unsophisticated idea, that, Professor Rick. So I'ma keep on doin' just what I wanna do, and I just don't care very much what you think about it. How's that for bein' intolerant? In fact, you can start callin' me Intolerant-Ass Brother Ritmo, or Ritmo the Intolerant Asshole, or whatever, if ya want--I don't give even a little tiny fuck.

Intolerant Asshole, Rick Feliz happens to be right on this one. Your one note song is getting mighty damned tired. You made your point, but of course that's not good enough. You have to get out that stick and beat it and beat it and beat and beat it and beat it some more. And then beat it. Attack everything and everyone associated with it. Summon the like-minded to join you as allies. And then BEAT IT AGAIN.

Ever post HAPPY THOUGHTS or does life constantly suck in Ritmo-land? If it does, have you ever considered taking it out on somebody else far removed from this board?

We now return you to your regular programming. I'm sure most of you are wondering what the hell any of this has to do with street girls.

WF sez:

"I just wish I could just stick my dick and wallet in a machine and when I
come feel good, because that’s what happening to those other poor mongers that aren’t in the KNOW.
Especially the AB mongers. They remind me of my little children all 84 or so of them they all say, yes
yes yes and go do the opposite. They just don’t listen"

Hey, Doc, just wonderin', do this make WF 'intolerant'? Probably not, 'cause he's WF, after all. Do whatcha wanna do, but like somebody said a little while ago, just watch out for when the kool-aid comes out!

I take it as a honor to get called an 'asshole' by the mufuckin' KING of the assholes on this board! I talk LOTS about happy thoughts, Porky, as you'd already know if you weren't so busy blastin' everybody to smithereens yaself and if yo head wasn't stuck up WF's ass right there wit the Nutty Professor's. Look at what I responded to ya dismal-ass note about SGs on the threaded board for an example--YMMV, and some of us does pretty good with those little chicas, though your mileage might be weak if ya come at the girls wit tha same belligerent attitude you be bringin' to half the folks you respond to here.

So your happy posts are the ones bragging about how you're god's gift to hookers? That actually could use a rest too.

And in my own defense, while I am rather proud of my ability to be an asshole, I try damned hard to reserve my blasts for those that are pretty much begging for SOMEBODY to put them out of their misery. And one thing I am WORKING ON is learning when to just LET IT GO when there ain't much left to be said. Could you maybe try taking a few baby steps in that regard yourself? There's a difference between being 'Ritmo the critic' and being a blowhard jerk that's always gotta have the last word and it's not like you're walking a fine line.

"your happy posts are the ones bragging about how you're god's gift to hookers? That actually could
use a rest too. "

Straight up, that's just a punk interpretation of what I wrote on that, and I think anybody witout a chip on their shoulder already can see that pretty easy (ain't never forgot about that little disagreement on female-to-male HIV transmission, huh, Porkster? was funny ta watch ya get all MoralMajority on that one, meanwhile WF talkin' about impregnatin' SGs by the dozens don't even phase ya on the moral alert--maybe that says somethin' about ya morals, eh? dangerous to mongers = bad; dangerous to SGs = who gives a fuck?). If you think it's "bragging about being god's gift to hookers" just 'cause I passed along some names of nice girls and some things I *and other dudes* do with 'em that work to a brother--that just says 'jealous' to me. For real. YMMV ain't democratic, and some brothers does better than others, for all kinds a reasons. You might work on ya personality, judgin' from the way ya treat me!

"I'm sure most of you are wondering what the hell any
of this has to do with street girls."

I think brothers is smarter on the average than you think they is, Porky. WF says he fucks SGs and gets 'em pregnant, and it's their fault--I say that's a pretty wack way to do things, 'cause these SGs are people, not targets for our misplaced anger at Mexican cops. Where did the part about that being about SGs slip by ya, Porky?
And btw, I hear ya on the part about lettin' shit go by, and that'll happen soon enough, most likely. Some thangs just rile me up more than others, and I'm sure same is true for you. You go off when Explorer or whoever asks newbie questions. I go off when Westie talks about gettin' chicas pregnant like it ain't no thang and says "90% of Mexicans is like this (and it's alway somethin' bad)". We all got our little thangs. Big mystery to me is why you and the Professor so concerned about what I say about WF--I mean, shit, it's like you mufuckas is his girlfriends or somethin'--let him defend himself, like a man. I mean, ya ain't got enough goin' on in ya life to just move past what I write to somethin' more interestin' to ya? I sure as fuck do that ALL THE DAMN TIME here--real easy to do too. Here--practice wit me...when you come to the post ya don't like----yajustmoverightonby real quick like, and go to tha next one. Easy, huh?

I will post a response to this soon under another thread.

"Do good by stealth, and blush to find it fame."

Pope

Ritmo, I love ya bro but I gotta agree with some of the other mongers. You've made your point time and time again. It seems everywhere WF posts there you are making some sort of negative comment. Just let it go! We're all here to be entertained and learn. If you hate this guy's posts so much - don't read them. I'm not trying to get down on you man. I really like the stuff you lay on us here. Just turn to another channel... love and peace (prog)

Ritmo,
I know exactly where your coming from. Your a good guy. I've tried your methods, you stay on the safe side, you get a little thrill, then you go home. There's NOTHING wrong with that. And I'll never fault you for that too. However, there comes a time in most mongers lives that we need a little more. We need to venture out from or little make beleive world. Americans and our life style. Play it safe. Bomb from a distance. Bubble live's just doesn't quite cut it. Almost the whole world has a love hate relationship with us. And after being married to a Mexican gal for 8 years too long, I've found out why. We don't try to blend in, we do everything we can to be different. And then we create big messes and we through money at it in stead to trying to respect their customs and working out the problems. When in Mexico I'm about the closest thing to being a Mexican without being one. The gals really forget there with a 101% American. I cut low everything we are about here in the US and they LOVE it. They eat it up. Why? Because they don't respect us. They just say one thing. Respect has to be earned, you can't buy in anywhere. By me doing what I do, I make them through undstanding and negociation gain a little respect that they've lost do to mongers that run around like chickens with no heads, throughing their money at everything...

I hope that helps you a little understand whats happening.

Westfargo...