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Hrmm I´m not sure I will even reply on this one Goddessman, but I can tell you guys that I´m having a very good time here in RIO and extending my trip for afew days and meeting some of her family later today and the rest over the weekend.

US $1000 to suck on a girls tits? Gee Goddessman, I hate to see what you would pay for a handjob.

Grettir, I am jealous as hell. enjoy your time in Rio and your girl. She is a sweetheart. Later, AZ

"You think Grettir should find a nice girl that is not a prostitute? just common sense? Hellooo… dumb ass, that is what we do here. We fuck prostitutes. Are you sure you are on the right site?"

I think the general understanding from members of this site is to enjoy the prostitutes as fun and for a hobby, and specifically not to seek out relationships with them. I don't see Goddessman's first post as any worse than the following quotes from others.

Dood
"Sounds like the typical RRFD (Rio Recipe For Disaster)"

Hunterman
"Now, your story is VERY typical, and 99% of the time has an unhappy ending of one sort or another."

Sandman
"Get-Do you play the lottery in your home state? Know what the odds are of winning. About the same as your prospects for this relationship. Don´t get me wrong. You could get real lucky...but odds are against it."

Alecjamer
"Come-up for air dude. Recognize and overcome. Get smart."

etc...

Grettir might get lucky, but the odds are strongly against it. My honest opinion from what I've read from him is that he's in over his head and unfortunately, this just might be something he'll need to learn from experience.

Then one day you might see Grettir saying "don't follow the path I followed" to the newer lovelorn member that thinks his situation is unique and an example of true love...and the cycle repeats itself.

I am really not quite sure why you pasted my text into your post and then go on to agree with what I said - we fuck prostitutes??? Maybe I am missing something. Anyway, you are right in that his first post wasn’t any different than the others. The problem I had with his first post was my perception of where he was coming from. The posts from the regulars had a helpful tone or a “wake up, bro” kind of message. You are correct we typically do not seek relationships with these girls, but as I have experienced myself and you may have as well, these girls can get to you if you are not careful. It happens. Grettir is a big boy and he will work through this in his own way. Who knows how it will turn out, could be good, could be bad. In the end he will have learned something, but I don’t think telling the guy how many guys his girl has fucked, will fuck, and I’m going to fuck serves anything. It is just malicious. I think this guy is just being a cock. Doesn’t it seem a little odd to you that a guy would make his first and only 2 post in this way? AZ

BTW I have enjoyed your trip reports very much and if Rachel becomes available and you change your mind, please let me know. AZ

I pasted because we are talking about more than fucking prostitutes, we're talking about establishing a serious relationships with someone we can hardly communicate with.

I do understand that girls can get to us and sometimes it's hard to avoid the development of feelings, and indeed this has happened to me. That said, I do not see Goddessman's posts as malicious at all, they are probably some of the most to the point, though. The others are "nicer", but Goddessman's probably most reflect the reality of what is/will actually happen. Already we have Branquinho and Thumper confirming she's still working with Thumper adding he's been with her 4 times in the last 2 weeks.

If Grettir himself believes the posts were rough or cruel, then I don't think he's prepared for the reality of the situation such as the one well laid out by Branquinho.

I understand your intentions in "defending" Grettir are well meant and that's a great thing, but he needs to be able to deal with the reality as posted if not much harsher. Grettir is indeed a big boy and I assume wants honest answers from a diverse and independent group, not just carefully crafted ones from friends. My personal opinion is that he's not seeing things too clearly right now and needs some straight talk.

I hope the best for Grettir, but I've already seen and heard of too many elaborate setups of heartbreaks and emptied wallets that seemed to have a lot more going for them than this one. In fact, just last week a friend told me about a TJ girl cleaning out her American husband's jewelry store before fleeing back to Mexico. She's working again after running out of money.

* As an aside with regards to my personal reality, I was setup for robbery by gunpoint in my TJ hotel room by a "sweet" girl I had known for years.

I've spoken with Grettir extensively, and I can assure you all that he's well familiar with the "reality," of the situation. He is, after all, rather intimately acquainted with her "charms," and this girl and her performance have been well and thoroughly discussed on this board and others for a period of some years.

Saying, "I'm going to try to fuck her," and drooling over her tits in a public forum is juvenile if not downright malicious. It touches off a man's jealous instincts--which are IRRATIONAL. Unfortunately, so is love. Instincts are not concerned with the facts of the situation. He has thus far done and admirable job of balancing the harsh realities of the "relationship" in which he finds himself.

The fact is, he is an adult man who has been coming here for a while. He has done a lot of thinking, a LOT of reading, and a lot of discussing. I believe he asked for counsel, not for condescension. Saying, "I was robbed by a "sweet" girl I had known for years," is helpful counsel. Saying, "I'm gonna try to fuck her, looka those titties!!!" is not.

He knows what she does for a living, and he knows that she is very attractive to men. I'm certain he in no way expects to be able to say to every man who comes to Rio, "Hey man, that's my girl, please don't fuck her." He is not, in short, an idiot.

And some men here ARE idiots. I am personally aware of some of the romantic and, unfortunately, financial affairs of some of the guys who come to Rio. These are guys who definitely know better. In some cases, the girls are actively intolerant of these guys--of course they still take the money. The signs are clear, and yet the guys refuse to accept them, or to listen to their friends. Not everyone who comes to Rio for sex is emotionally healthy.

I can assure you that Grettir is not one of these cases. This is not his situation. I can see the need to drive a point home with some guys, but "Hey, man she is making fun of you behind your back/to your face/engaged to 3 men and taking money from all of them" is an EFFECTIVE way of smacking some sense into a lovestruck dummie. "Your girl's got fantastic tits, I'm gonna pay her to let me suck them," is not. Not when the realities of a place like Rio assure her little other chance of survival.

This may not be her only reason to continue working. She is not the innocent, victimized sweetheart. No woman is. But the facts of her "job," and her motivations for keeping it, are for the two of them to work out. Personally, I think it will probably end badly. Most things in life do. Shit, life itself rarely ends well. But it doesn't mean there wasn't some beauty along the way.

You can keep your kids in a little glass box their whole lives to keep them "safe." You can't keep them from running and playing, from riding bikes, from getting hurt. You can't, when they're older, save them from love, or protect them from heartbreak. It's part of life. All you can do, if you respect them, is counsel them on the dangers and let them make the choice for themselves.

Grettir is a man and his friends are watching out for him. And you'll have to wait 3 months to pay her for sucking on her titties. He'll be busy sucking on them in his home.

Meo dois centavos,
Gibletpie

Thanks for the comments and warnings.

Now, I have no intention of ever asking this girl to stop working. I understand she is in her primes, she is extremely popular down here and makes good money. Like so many have pointed out, the decision to change her line of work must come from her, I´m not sure myself she is ready for that change, she is used to certain things and she is very young. She has gotten so many marrige propsals that she stopped counting a long time ago, some of these men have far more money then I ever will. Nonetheless I believe her feelings for me are true.

I´m not sure if this is common knowledge but a large precent of these agency girls are married. In most cases their husbands have no clue what is going on. I´m talking about brazilian husbands here, not some gringo sugardaddies.

I would not recommend a relationship with a working girl to anyone, its hard, the trust issues are insane and if she lives in another country you can mulitply the first two by 10x. At first this was very very very hard for me to accept, now I frankly don´t think so much about it, for them its a job, I have meet some of her clients, it was np on myside. If you think showering the girls with more money or presents that they will like you more, you will get royally screwed.


d'Artagnan wrote:
"* As an aside with regards to my personal reality, I was setup for robbery by gunpoint in my TJ hotel room by a "sweet" girl I had known for years."

Basically she has no need to rob anyone, but if that was her plan, then I would be a very small catch.

She will visit me for three months, now she has already told me that she wants to live in brazil but she wants to spend more time with me, after that only time can tell. It has been insanly hard for her to get the family approval for this visit, to be honest, they are still very pissed about this. The outcome of the visit will most likely not be good for me, but life is full of suprises, without suprises, tears or happiness it would be dull anyways.

PS. Yes I´m totally over my head here, but the ride is good atm.

Grettir

Grettir,

I personally am rooting for you. No one except the Lord above really knows what's going to happen in this life.

I also have to commend your bravery in posting your feelings here. I personally have felt many of the same things (and experienced some of the same things) but I never bothered posting here for obvious reasons.

I hope it ends well, but whatever happens, enjoy the ride.

BT

Gibletpie, if I only had your communication skills, where would I be today…. Anyway my points from the beginning were first of all, Grettir will work it out. Secondly, and I am not saying there is a huge conspiracy here, but something is just a little strange about a guy making his first and only 2 posts targeted at Grettir. Check it out, it was way, way over the top for anyone to post the shit he did, much less his first 2 posts. Lastly, were did he go?. I jabbed him a couple of times and no response. Maybe he is just a pussy. Hmmmm. I am starting to feel like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory, I gotta let it go. Later AZ

I still disagree that Goddessman's posts were harsh, malicious, or over the top.

Think about it this way, forget for the moment that you know anyone involved or the specific site where this is posted. This is what you have:

A member of a site about men having sex with prostitutes initiates a discussion to the entire site about entering a potentially serious relationship with one, then provides identifying information on who the prostitute is which is also followed up with a posted link to her nude photos and contact information. What kind of posts would you suspect are going to appear in that thread? The ones posted by Goddessman are much tamer than I would expect.

IMHO, the comments are not uniquely mean or insensitive, but rather typical of what you might expect from dudes you didn't know on a site about having sex with prostitutes.

If Grettir only wanted input from his "friends" who might be more delicate with their responses, he would have, or at least should have, sent emails or personal messages. Instead, he posed the discussion and provided identifying information on the prostitute to hundreds or thousands of guys he doesn't personally know, whatever that number might be.

Asking the entire site for relationship advice is fine, but he should also be prepared for responses that aren't as nice as he would like them. I did not get the impression that Grettir was overly offended or repulsed by the remarks, if he was I don't think he should have been given the fact that he provided information identifying her. And if Grettir shouldn't be offended, I don't see why others should be.

JMHO

As for being robbed, I was not at all suggesting that was my opinion of what was going to happen. The point was that you can know people for a long time, then realize you don't REALLY know them.

Grettir, i am pulling for you man!!! Things sound like they are going ok for you there.

but if it doesn't work out, azguy and I are planning on colombia in May. you should bring sigi if he hasn't found his russian honey.

My comments were honest, from my experience anyway. I learned 20 years ago that taking a hooker out of Rio or Bangkok or wherever is like taking a fish out of the sea. The only way it could succeed is if you have no jealousy, low expectations and don't mind the fact she's been with 1500 guys, including some like you who fell in love/lust and dreamt of romance and having her all to yourself. A fool's paradise, but sometimes we take any paradise we can get. It might even be a bargain. And it sure beats ice queens and blue balls.

Just last month I "fell in love" for 48 hours with a girl in Colombia. Gorgeous little spinner who made love like heaven and whose sparkling eyes reminded me of a lost love from my youth. So in my head, the neural connection to LOVE was made. I started making plans in my head to take her home with me. But it turned out to be 100% BS of course. For as soon as my back was turned, she was off fucking her continuous string of guys. I had to try and make an appointment. Then she stood me up 4 times. But if that girl had wanted to con me, she might have been successful. My heart was open to being a fool.

That said, some men have learned to love and stay married to hookers, strippers and porn actresses. It can happen. But is it really what you want in a longterm relationship especially when family and money are involved? Not unless you have a family that welcomes hookers and porn actresses. Mine would be shocked even by the thought of it. Maybe, at best, a temporary exclusive relationship is the only wise option to consider, 1 week to 3 months max. But never fool yourselves.

I commend Grettir for getting plenty of sex from very nice chick a pair of DD's to die for, but then again, what if he were to meet a pair of DDD's which were even better? Would he be the one to wander? And without those jugs would be talking marriage and love ever-after? Especially when he can't even speak the language? Is it wise to propose marriage to a pair of jugs and a pussy? Maybe not, but it happens.

We like to fool ourselves sometimes. It's fun too. And we are all designed as men to confuse sex with love. That's how the species of humans continues. But you can't confuse the mongering life with real life back home, nor a hot bod with true love, unless you pick up and move to hooker-land, making that your real and only life. But that's another issue.

And yes, honestly, if I go to Rio or anywhere else, I will find and try to fuck any hooker I see and lust for on these threads, no matter how much a fellow monger romanticizes about her. So long as she's hooking, she's fair game and belongs not to one guy but to anyone with $60. I would expect the same from any other guy if I posted a favorita.

I wish all fellow mongers excellent luck, good sex, self-esteem, healthy lives and not to get ripped off or their hearts broken. But of course it happens to all of us soner or later.

On the $1000 question, absolutely. Outside Vegas, hookers at brothels try to charge $1500 for an hour. It's madness, but true and plenty of guys pay it. Few if any of those chicks are equal to a top Rio or Colombian $60 girl.

If that DD of Grettir's were here in LA, she could glam up and make $1000 a pop doing Beverly Hills guys. Some Arab prince might even pay her $100,000 for a month. No problem. In Vegas. London, Paris, Nice or New York City the same.

Only bargains in LA are Asian or Latina immigrant massage parlors, then maybe $150 for FS. But not the highest quality. Plus it's illegal and you're in a sleazy neighborhood.

BTW: I am impressed that Grettir's hook cried for hours when he left. Yes, deep-down they all have the same feelings other girls have, but maybe they are crying for other reasons than we think. Maybe they are crying because they are stuck in the life and know that a normal life in LA or Iceland is an impossible dream. Something to think about. Also, maybe they are also suspectible to confusing sex with love, just like we are. I think many of them are afraid of falling in love qand getting hurt just like we are.

We can all cry about that, because boy would I love to have a little big-titted natural spinner 19 years old up here in LA with me now. I'd marry her for sure, at least in my fantasies. Because if I had to pay for her here she'd cost $500 an hour. Ouch. Can't afford that.

Goddessman, what the fuck, no name calling? Ok, have it your way, a mature conversation. As you said in your post, you have been there recently with the girl in Colombia. So you know it is easy to get caught up with these girls. I understand the points you make, but I would think you would be more sympathetic to a guy going through this.

D’Artagnan, you are right, it may have been a better idea for Grettir to have kept it private, but I think he was looking at it like we would help him out a little, not tell him how much we wanted to fuck his girl.

Lastly, the big difference this board has over most is there is a really good chance we will meet someday. Its not so anonymous. It seems like more of a community to me, but maybe I am kidding myself.

Good luck Grettir, either way it goes, enjoy! And don’t forget about Colombia. Start working on rolling those R's. Later, AZ

Grettir is a youngster, blond and blue-eyed. He is turned off with Icelandic women as many northern Euros and Americans are turned off by their countrywomen (and men in the womens case). I know a Icelandic beauty who only dates black guys. But deep-down they all know they're copping out too. We all do. gg

He meets a ultra-sexy garota hooker with giant natural beauties who pledges love and fucks his brains out. He's hooked. I might be too, except that I've learned over the years from various follies. Plus I'm 20 years older than he is.

This garota is also taken him him. After all he's young, blond and can spirit her away from her world and The Life. So why not dream?

Basically they're both dreamers. But reality is a lot more harsh once the dream honeymoon time is over. We all dream of marrying sexpot chicks of various types, but a lasting marriage is difficult enough without - let's be honest - it being between an idealistic newbie young monger and a very experienced hooker.

I can just see the movie, and unless he is willing to go through emotional hell for years and come out on the other side, it has a sad ending, though an orgasmic beginning.

I wish the ending could be happy, but as a young man with his life before him, Grettir shouldn't be settling for a hooker to marry, not yet, no matter how nice her tits are or how much she cries and emotes. The chances of her reforming to a straight life are slim. And if he fails at marriage in Iceland for 20 years he can always return to Rio and find another at 50.

However, he can take a big risk and try. Any of us can. If he chooses to take this risk, I wish him luck. Just hope it doesn't destroy his ability to have a more rational love life.

BTW, when I was Grettir's age, I found a gorgeous Thai girl in Bangkok. She "loved" me for three nights and I her. It felt like love. I was tempted to spirit her away and she loved that fantasy. But looking back, boy what a fool I would have been. She'd be a 40 year old ex-Bangkok hooker now watching soaps and soaking up my money. The word would get out and everyone would laugh at me. And in the meantime, I'd have missed out on meeting a more appropriate match and giving myself the chance for a more normal, respectable life.

Finally, I could see it making much more sense if Grettir was 50 and finished with Icelandic women for life. Then he'd have fewer qualms and a lot less to lose. And she would be paying a price for the security she gets in return. A fair swap. Youth and sex for western life and security. She invests her youth and gets set up in the US or Iceland in exchange. Fair swap. But Grettir is giving up too much. And he has far too much time to suffer the consequences.

Bottomline, Grettir should enjoy the fling and not have any delusions. He should also be careful back home not to let people know he's in love with a Rio hooker. I'm sure Iceland is a small world and that could hurt him.

Enough said, and a disclaimer. I would love to fuck his "wife" and will if I get the chance. or another one like her. Just being honest.

PS: On my Colombiana romantic fantasy, since she's 22 and I'm 48, though foolish to pursue, the romantic dream makes more sense. I am already divorced and not likely to marry again. I'm also semi-fed up with US chicks and am attracted more to foreign chicks I meet here in LA. Plus, I have experience dating callgirls (reformed or not) so I'm wise to their ways and their games. So I'm in a position to be willing to pay for a mistress type girlfriend or even wife, though not literally, just by moving her in and taking care of her.

If a hottie young chica I adored in bed and liked personally really wanted to be with me, and we tested it over a year or so, then I could conceiveably bring her home and maybe even marry her. But even then, I would know I'm taking a big risk of ending up paying hundreds of grand and major heartache for as little as 6 months of young pussy. Plus, think of all the BS I'd have to go through with immigration, family, etc.

Naw, not worth it. Maybe when I'm 55 though. gg
As we get older, young pussy gets more valuable and a more reasonable swap for your financial help, time and reputation.

PSS: read Grettir's first post on this thread and see how deluded he sounds. Hopefully he has wised up. Painfully funny. We have all been there probably.

"Can she forgive my mongering past"? LOL

Grettir

I just tuned into this thread, and realized that I had the privelege of knowing Sharlene. She is an extraordinarily sensual lover who truly loves her 'work'. I completely forgot I was with a service provider when we were together.

On more than one occassion, she instigated a second session with me during our 2 hours together. There were some unfortunate events where the condom broke, but that didn't seem to bother her as we just kept at it without protection.

I too have fallen for a special provider in Rio. This woman did not see me for money. She had her own business. I cared for her - she cared for me. It was a unique situation, but one which moved me deeply at the time.

She had no intentions to move away from Brazil, although we talked about it. She had no plans to quit the program or become accountable to me, although we talked about it.

In the end, we walked away from each other. In the meantime, several other foreigners continued seeing her even when she was 'off the program'.

Several years later, I can now look back at the situation and laugh about it. But I couldn't laugh about it at the time.

One of the reasons I became so engulfed in her because she was the first woman to totally blow me out of the water with our sessions. It was easy for me to confuse physical passion with emotional passion while I was so overwhelmed.

So ask yourself this one question. Has any other woman captured your soul with her looks, and her beauty, and her passionate embrace? If not, you can better understand how she has ensnared your soul.

Several years later, I can now look back at the situation and laugh about it. But I couldn't at the time, because the non-brazilian soul isn't sued to being overwhelmed like that.

No woman on the face of this earth can kidnap the essence of your being like a braziliera.

The question that I and so many other posters ask is merely this?

Can you afford to pay the ransom?

Do yourself a favor, Gman. Don't negotiate with terrorists. Let her keep the part of your heart she rightfully deserves, and just walk away.

IrishRover

PS
She does a bear a striking resemblance to this famous actress, doesn't she?

One last statement. Guys are suckers for sex. Especially if we're starved for it, when we get it and it's great our brains automatically think "this is love". I am guilty too, very guilty.

But especially if you are a young man with a long life in front of you, never be fooled by a hooker. And yes if she charges for sex she is a hooker no matter if she has a heart of gold, cries and introduces youn to her family. Hookers whole love life is a job. And even if you aren't the richest john, you are a client and part of that job. So make sure you realize it's at least 75% business for them at all times, even if you marry them. Then you will have no illusions.

Also remember that the US and Europe are full of hookers from the third world who scammed some guy to bring them over and marry them. Some will do almosty anything to get to the 1st world where they can charge ten times as much or be supported by the welfare system. It's happened thousands of times. Of course there are also the rare exceptions. But hookers only end up straight wives in Hollywood fantasies.

We mongers (and I only do it part-time) have all fallen in love with hookers, but I challenge anyone here to confirm that a single monger ever ended up happily ever after with a hooker unless he is at least 50 years old and has given up on dating, marriage with a peer or any conventional social and love life.

Also remember this, hookers are lazy. After 3 weeks sitting around the house, they'll also get bored and want some action. They'll get tired of fucking you and wonder what else they could be doing. And if they're so sexy, they'll be getting offers left and right every time they leave the house. Not exactly wife material. But certainly GF material for a week to 3 months. But even then, they will expect to get something important out of it. If only a free vacation with plenty of gifts and goodies.

My month-long membership ends at midnight but I will be back before my next trip to South America. Good luck to all mongers but keep everything in perspective. This isn't about reality unless you live in South America or Thailand, this is about escape from our normal lives, and counter-actiong the frequent sexual frustration of it all.

Modern "liberated" western women are tough on guys and we older guys espcially who like to bang young hotties have no choice but to go to the 3rd world or pay through the nose. If we try to pretend otherwise we just invite broken hearts. And who needs a broken heart over a hooker? Dosn't make much sense.

This mongering can be a lot of fun and give you strength to cope. Personally I love it. But never forget that it has its clear limits. Those mongers who imagine they can take a 3rd world hooker home with them and make it work almost always end up the fool. Rare exceptions, and temporarily can be worth the trouble, but it's probably easier just to go to Rio or Cartagena or Bangkok three times a year and accept it for what it is, a great break from the usual, especially when you're over 35 and young chicks stop wanting to go to bed with you unless you have something they want and need.

Grettir is just one of many who've been tempted and maybe suckered. What he is going through now is both a joy and a life lesson. He will learn. And once he does, he will also find out that the fish must stay in the ocean. They're like mermaids. Living fantasies. Real but unreal at the same time. And especially if you're not fluent in their language you will never really figure it out except by experience.

Finally, whatever happens, try and have a sense of humor about it. One of the best parts of mongering is the laughs you get. Which means, don't take it too seriously.

Grettir,

Look. I am not qualified to give relationship advice. I pay for sex. I have lived with escorts in serious relationships while they worked. I am still active in "the hobby".

Love is hard to quantify. Many guys have trophy wives and pay for it. Many guys have "companions to take care of their children" and pay for it. Many guys are in crappy marriages and pay for it. Many guys marry housekeepers who end up keeping the house.

Finding love - affection based and sexual based; friendship based - having no expectations and knowing you do not "own" the person and will forgive them; and spiritual based - well all of the components to love take a lot of time to decipher in any healthy relationship. I read an article once that after 6 weeks, you will know if you can hang with her, after six months, you know who she really is, after 18 months - when lust wears off, you will know if it has long term potential and after 2 years - you may have enough information to make a rational decision about someone who you should be willing to do anything for over the rest of your and her life. And keep in mind, people change over time. And emotions are irrational at best and they drive men to have extramarrital sex out of ego needs (as do women).

It does not matter what she does. To some credit, I would agree that where she lives plays a role. If I was going to be in a long term realtionship with a GDP, I'd live in Brazil part time and in the US part time and hope she liked spending some of the time I was in the US with me.

You want to try and make this work?? Both of you go to a counselor together and seperate. This is bigger than any guy on this site can give advice for. Everything is just colorful commentary and some insights into there observations of other situations. No one knows you or her well enough. A counselor would determine that over time. I went with a girlfriend who was a US based escort. I gotta tell you, it was beyond frightening opening up. Try telling a female counselor the girl you are sitting next to is a hooker, and you met her paying her for sex.

It is what it is. But probably not love yet. Building friendships takes time. Friends are thoughtful - do things for you without asking, friends care about you when things are good and bad. Loves - well anyone you love should be able to deal with you most insane moments and help you through them. And still love you.

I wish you the best. I believe in love. I have many "girl" "friends" I love and that love me. It takes time to get to that point though. And to find one woman you want to spend the rest of your life with in a "trusting" (did not say monogamous - many relationships work without monogamy), you need to agree on what "trust" is. Figure that out between the two of you and you may have a chance. It requires communication skills that at least 50% of the folks in the US do not have (our divorce rate).

Again,
All the best,
Safadinho

Guess I have one more day, so more to say. I disagree that you can compare a relationship with a hooker to a normal relationship of any kind, with two exceptions, if she gives up hooking 100%, or if you the guy are in The Life too, that is a pimp or non-judgemental monger, who may even like threesomes, etc. In other words, if that is the kind of relationship you want with a woman, if her being a hooker or semi-hooker actually turns you on. Then it can work. But it a guy tries to bring any traditional family or relationship values to the table and expect that in return, forget about it. Fool's paradise.

It would also be different if the girl were a newbie college student type who made "the mistake" of selling her body a few times. Then she swears off it, like someone who dabbled in narcotics refusing to do it again. But we are talking about a 3 year veterana of the hooker scene, maybe 1000 guys or more in her recent past, so it's gotten ingrained in her and it will take a long time to get it out of her.

Again, I'm all for exclusiva trips and extended sessions, even the pretence and illusion of romance and love, but there is a definite trap a guy can fall into there if he throws away his common sense and falls in love with a sexy body. In other words, despite our hardwiring as males, mind over matter. Never confuse a good lay with love. Especially when you pay for it. And don't forget, the hooker who tells you she loves you could have said that to a lot of other guys, maybe even dozens or hundreds. So be aware.

Also, if I lived in Iceland, I'd take a garota there for the midnight sun summer, not the winter. Like taking a tropical flower to the north pole. What garota wants to skip the Rio summer for darkness and cold?