Before I go into this topic, I want to make perfectly clear that I am NOT talking about sex for pay (illegal prostitution). I am talking about legitimately meeting and dating a stripper. Although some may consider dating a form of legalized prostitution.

From time to time, you hear from guys about how they dated a stripper. Sometimes these stories are just another version of the "cock and bull", but other times they are real.

When I lived out in California, I knew a guy who had a roommate that met a stripper in Las Vegas. She was 18 years of age. My friend related stories about how his roomy would drive up to Vegas to meet this woman (long drive). Sometimes he would bring the stripper back to my friends house in San Bernardino County. My friend related some wild stories about how his roomy one time brought back the stripper and her buddy (a woman of course) for some 3some fun.

At the time, I had been living in Miracle Mile and the Hollywood strip was a matter of blocks from my location. There was this strip club called "The Bodyshop". I had some curiosity about this so I decided to do some experimentation. My first night there I met a cute Russian chick. We had some drinks, did a few lap dances. I then proceeded to really hit on her by asking her out and the usual bit. She resisted in a friendly manner. I finally walked out enlightened, but my wallet was at least $100 lighter.

The next time I went, a few weeks later, this same dancer came up to me. I did a lap dance with her. This time only one song. I gave her my business card and told her to drop by my work sometime, anytime in fact.

I had to move on though, because I didnt want to waste my time with one lady. Next I picked out a highly respectable Korean chick. We talked and then did a naken lap dance. This time I blatantly asked her out and she said she didnt meet guys after work. Well, I paid for another lap dance because I thought I should try harder. Despite my efforts, nothing seemed to work. You will all be happy to know that this Korean chick was "Lucy Lee" and you can see her videos on www.xonair.com. She hadnt hit the porn scene when I went to this establishment though. I then walked out, again, my wallet was feeling at least $150 lighter. I think I had only been in there for a half hour?

Next time I went to a different place. I found a nice mixed filipina/white chick. I tried some different tactics and again she told me that she didnt date customers.

On the 4th and final run to the strip club, I went back to the Bodyshop and met up with the sweet russian chick. She told me that she had went to my work. Unfortunately, I decided to take another job. She even described to me in great detail the entrance to the place and gave me the receptionist's name. This was an INJUSTICE! At that point, I gave her all my contact information and street address. Told her to call me or come over I didnt care when.

Well that was my last shot. 4 times was the charm and at least $500 lighter (total from the 4 visits).

Has anyone here ever dated a stripper? How were you able to do it?

A fresh Lucy Lee must of been a treat

I worked PT in a strip club in my younger days as a bartender and dated (I use that term loosely) a few. Most of the times it revolved around partying and fine social activity as a result afterward. Very, very, very few girls I knew hooked up with customers regardless of age, looks, $$$, etc. On the few occasions they did, it was usually a gal who liked certain products and someone had it in stock. Most were nornal gals who are not looking for extra curricular activities, and going to see a customer from the bar is the last thing on their mind.

(Message edited by donmarco on May 22, 2006)

I did, but I don’t think my experience is either typical or instructive. Some years ago I stopped by a nude/alcohol-free place, definitely not top tier, on a very quiet Sunday evening. One of the dancers came over and talked to me to me, to alleviate the boredom more than anything else. We chatted for a few hours. I was buying her cokes, but at $4 or so a coke nobody was getting rich. I thought it odd that she didn’t bother to ask me for a lap dance although they had them. She was old to be dancing, but I have a soft spot for Latinas “of a certain age” who still have decent figures. I had fun, came back frequently, and after a few weeks we went out to “breakfast” when the place closed for the night. As I say, it was not a typical situation. She had been a dancer for many years in her younger days, and had married an older guy with bucks who later became a sick old guy. She had transitioned from taking care of his libido to taking care of his health, was bored out of her skull, and had started dancing because she was either lonely or missed her old life. She stopped dancing again shortly after that. We had an on-again off-again relationship that lasted several years. It was fun while it lasted, but it was some time ago.

(Message edited by ratablanca on May 23, 2006)

For over 7 years only dated American strippers/GOGO/Pron chicks(sorry no stars)!
At that time in my life we seem to have many things in common(no i did not strip ..LOL)

Married one and Managed(wink)dozens and in my opinion most are Bi. Easy way to the heart is $$ and candy. Not that they all are like this but most have issues. You would need to become a Reg customer to gain the confidence and now a days most have Pimps, Boyfriends, Kids or all three... they are mixed up bunch! But if you find one with her head on right it can be fun and she can make a ton of cash!
They have lots of free time and love to shop.
My ex wife is no longer a stripper but all of our friends are Exotic Dancers. It was a head ache but I still have a weakness for dancers now its just 3rd world babes

I've dated a couple, and a friend of mine was a club DJ who married a stripper.

There's a couple of approaches, but mostly it's lifestyle. I'm a big dude, so I think at least one of them dated me just so she'd have a "bouncer" with her when she went clubbing (hello, XTC).

Another girl was a setup by the "russian mafia" -- one russian girl I liked (but who was married, etc.) set me up with her friend. The friend waited almost a year to spring the "I need to get married" trap, and it came within about thirty seconds of working. (But then she said "If you won't do it, it's okay, cause I've got this regular I've been kind of seeing on the side..." and *whoosh*--==> out she went.)

The rest were low-involvement, low-return dates for kicks.

IMO, there's no justification whatever for dating a stripper as a stripper. If you meet a girl that happens to be a stripper, go for it (knowing that she's going to have way more issues than most). But I wouldn't go out of my way to date one. (In fact, I've recently avoided it a few times: the bullshit factor is too high.)

Dem Wizened Gnomes

If you want the most reliable techniques, start at www.mysterymethod.com/forum and find the appropriate posts. The short version is to go in, be fun and cocky and as interesting as possible, and don't buy any lap dances. DON'T be a regular customer. There's a lot more to it, and it won't be fast to learn. No magic bullet. I've had some small successes by making connections with strippers, usually over many nights, and not pushing anything quickly.

Strippers are women, and they do date. Going in, buying a few dances, and asking them out is not the way to do it and will almost never work.

Also be warned that although many look good, many are crazy and their lifestyle is not for the faint of heart. I remember talking to one guy whose stripper girlfriend got off on playing with guns during sex, and was very very careful to make sure they were loaded no matter what he did.

I guess my question is, why would you particularly want to? I haven't dated an American woman since 1995 (though she was a Hooter's "Mother Owl", long story there) and have no plans on ever doing so again, but if I were to, a self-important gringa stripper would be way, way down on my list.

Honestly, Im not interested in the dating or emotional part. Im particularly not interested in throwing money at them either. The sex part is the only thing that would be of interest to me. Going any further than that would be out of the question.

The ultimate fantasy would be to have sex with her friends (seperate or together, either way).

Did I mention that the guy in the original scenario was a Sheriff's deputy? Uh=oh.

If you are young, then no probem..when I lived in Alaska(I was mid 20's then) they were on contract for six weeks there.they were alone and just offered them a place to hang out as they lived on club property..easy pickins...they are the best sex partners for sure..alone and with friends..as we all know like whores, strippers are mostly bi sexual..goes with the territory..

If you live in a big town..very tough..they have too much to choose from.way too many good looking dudes hitting on them every night...small town ..oh yeah..

however, if you are like most of us these days cruising 40...then I cant help you..money is the only way these days I can get a stripper..again in the big towns they already make too much..small towns, they dont make crap...especially the ones who are nearing 30...most of them who dont get out of the business turn pro...stay away from the big town clubs and go into the bush my friend..

Honestly, Im not interested in the dating or emotional part. Im particularly not interested in throwing money at them either. The sex part is the only thing that would be of interest to me. Going any further than that would be out of the question.

Well that's it -- If IE is not interested in it we should all stop talking about it. Nuff said !

After all he WAS in the military.

BTW I thought the title of this thread WAS " Dating an American Stripper " , not "Having Sex with an American Stripper.

Interesting topic...

You spent money for drinks to sit with, talk and get dances from strippers. This seems like a bad way to get what you want, especially given your habit of paying up front for the poon (just like the rest of us...).

Here's a site for you: www.theeroticreview.com. They have a comprehensive list of escorts, dancers, AMPs and porn stars for you to choose from. Why go to bars trying to pick up strippers when you could just call an accomodating gal that would fit the bill (and your schedule). Many girls that dance in the clubs also "dance in the bed" to supplement their income. Since you're not looking for a "relationship", but a "bootie call", you might save some time, money and frustration by checking out that site. BTW, I've used their services a few times and found most listings were right on. Hell, I've even boffed a few porn stars - good clean fun... heheh

E

There is no mystery to "dating a stripper", they are real people just like you and me, they do have feelings and are sensitive to thier occupation and what people (and men) think of them If you remember that, you'll be OK. I should know I've married one, and dated perhaps a good 2 or three dozen over the years.

There are some caveats though. And these do not apply to all strippers, but is just a general observation, and that is: as we "objectify" a stripper as perhaps a "sex object", so they objectify us as a "support object"., ie, a mentality that you are thier personal ATM. They have been so much conditioned to take money from men at thier work, with no real appreciation as to what, that this same attitude carries over into thier personal life. A good "fer instance" would be buying a gift for a non-stripper would result in an exagerated (or non-exagerated) expression of gratitude, & if the gift is important enough (ie, not neccesarily expensive) it may result in an a reciprocation of reward from the recipient (maybe even sex). But what I have found is that gift giving has a lesser effect on former and current strippers., ie, it more like it's expected of you.

Remember this is just a general observation, each girl is indeed different, but I think, as a mindset of the occupation, it is something to be aware of.

That being said. I think they are the absolutly the "funnest" to go out with, just to shoot some pool, go out to eat with, or go clubbing. I think that, when you do go out with them, it is important to leave thier "work" out of converations. You do get a better sense of who they are about if you let them leave their "stripper persona" at work. Youll frequently find that they are two different people.

What is really amazing is that I'm still friends with some girls I met while they were stripping over 20 years ago.

Of course what I'm mostly hitting at here is NOT the sex for hire services (I've done those too), but a real dating/romantic/frienship type relationship. They ARE girls, and they differ in some respect from other non-strippers in that, above all, I find them more accepting of who you are and what you do or what you are, than other girls would. After all they have been constantly judged by all as being immoral or working in illicit occupation. I find thier attitudes about love and life refreshing and honest.

OG

Dating strippers in college is a good way to have a girl help pay your way through college and get free rent. They usually live in posh places as well. They love to fuck and are loaded. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, doubt i would ever pursue a stripper chick but when you are young and broke, its very smart.....not to mention lots of experimentation with girls from all different types of background.

I'm often surprised at people who "can" date strippers. (I hope I'm not resurrecting an otherwise dead thread.)

For me, the girl's hotness is a major issue. I don't find a large number of normal humans hiking about the mall who look good enough for me to want to date them so a strip club is a location where I'd be able to identify hotness readily. For that reason, I'm kind of into the fantasy of perceiving myself as somehow able to date a stripper.

I understand, as this thread and many other of my readings assert, that generally they're high maintenance and wired rather annoyingly. I don't think, in the long run, I'd be happy dating someone like that (I'm extremely rational and demanding of rationality in my friends and partners; so sue me!) but OG puts in a fabulous point, that strippers are probably more likely to be open-minded about sexuality. They stand "outside" our current Puritanical culture, kind of like mongers. That sounds cool.

The note that Broman put in there, about Mystery Method, surprised me, since I've sometimes read up on the whole "seduction science" scene. I find it too populated with ineffective thought, but there's something to the idea of NOT letting her treat you like a customer.

I think I'd love to live that dream of BEING ABLE to land a hottie, whether at a strip club or not. It just seems to me, that hotties congregate at strip clubs, and therefore that is my imaginary hunting ground. But I dno't ever really cross that barrier, from customer (and "john") to non-paying "friend." Once or twice at a really rowdy free for all type club north of Toronto a girl asked me for a ride home after her shift. I guess, now, that I should have realized that she was sending me at least the signal that she didn't think of me as a lunatic axe murderer type, and therefore there might have been an opening.

Otherwise, it's all been just pipe dreaming. "Wouldn't it be nice ... IF ... an attractive young woman like ... HER ... thought of me as a potential real-life mate?" Ah dream ....

IronEagle, had an experience thats simular to what I think your looking for. this happened several years ago. Walked into this lower end strip club on a week night. Just gotten in from a long business trip and didn't want to go home quite yet. The place was empty; several dancers and only two or three customers. Started talking to this cute little girl who approached and didn't actually start her conversation with "want a lap dance?" Turns out she was a college student who had some serious credit card debt and wanted to pay it off before graduating in a few weeks. This was her second night on the job. We talked for most of the evening and her many lap dances were "free". She was as turned on as me and the sexual tension was thick in the air. Finally, I asked her how she felt about older men ( me, late 30's at the time, her early 20'2) Her reply "that's been a fantasy. She gave me her number, and I called a few day's later to arrange a dinner date. I made it a point of making the evening as romantic as possible; nice restaurant, great conversation and dancing afterwards. Had a wonderful fling with her for a few weeks before she graduated and left town to pursuit her career.

Every once in a while I will experience a woman like that. Not neccasarily a stripper per say, but a woman who just wants to have sex for a time and then be on her way in life. These women, the ones who enjoy prolonged non-committal type sex, are like gold.

It seemed to happen a lot more when I lived in Southern California, but it does happen on occasion in the big city.

In SoCal, there was a laundry list. Some notable examples were a 27 year old Japanese woman who decided to go back to college to become a teacher. A 36 year old Vietnamese divorcee. A whole bunch of other asian women ranging in age from 18 all the way up to 40. None of these women ever asked for a condom and would have wild anything goes type sex on demand.

Sometimes I would be fucking one woman while I would be chatting with another woman on the computer.

My belief is that Southern California (especially Orange and Los Angeles counties) have the best opportunities for wild, free anything goes type sex. San Diego sucks because of all the military and surfer types that you have to compete with. All other regions of the United States simply pale in comparison.

Whoops, I guess I went off-topic, but hey, what the hell.

Dating Strippers in NYC: You need to spend a good amount of time in the clubs and that costs coin. Get to know the waitress staff, be good to the bouncers, tip the restroom attendant. Make friends with the managers. Have them work for you. Make sure you know their names and they know yours. Before you know it you are taking the hot waitresses out for drinks and they will put in good words for you with the girl you like. These girls have 100 guys all over them - even studs have problems getting many of them out. I choose to treat them with respect and try to make them laugh. I do not play games with them. Bottom line is sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt. Its a very expensive hobby but the payoff can be sweet.. You can have a fling for a month or so and eventually you move on as many of them are nutz. For those that know me I am not a big guy or great looking but I have had my share of girls from a few of the clubs that I frequent. You just can't be too eager with them. As a footnote it can be a pandoras box. I have to get up early for work. Dealing with the dancers who work the nightshift can really get annoying if they leave at 4am and you are getting to work by 7am. Best - LuckyBiegs

I think I am going to stick with myspace.