By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 04:37 pm: Edit |
FUTURES BETS:
Chargers to win SB (+255) --- 10 units to win 25.5 units
Ravens to win SB (+459) --- 6 units to win 27.54 units
Wild Card Games
How bout those Cowboys !!!!!!!
Dallas +3 over Seattle --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Dallas ml +139 --- 1 unit to win 1.39 units
Dallas 1st half (+.5) --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Due_diligence on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 10:47 am: Edit |
Tony Romo should have focused on football and not that American Idol skank lol...Romo has a few good games and now, all of a sudden he is the next Joe Montana. Would you blame Bill Parcells for leaving after that game? Too many head cases on that team.
By Don Marco on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 12:18 pm: Edit |
Not doubt Bill must be pretty down, but his JOB is to manage the show, not duck and hiberate when it doesn't execute. I'm sorry, but Bill is responsible for getting his team mentally prepared and putting the right people on the field. I've been quietly routing for them the last couple years as I am a Bledsoe and Parcell's fan, but during that time they have been terribly inconsistent and unfocused... whose fault is that?
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 08:44 pm: Edit |
Dallas +3 --- won 1 unit
Dallas ml --- lost 1 unit
Dallas 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 NFL Playoffs to date --- won 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 07:52 pm: Edit |
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Da Bears -2 over Saints --- 8.8 units to win 8 units
Da Bears even 1st half --- 4.4 units to win 4 units
AFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Pats +3 over Colts --- 8.8 units to win 8 units
Pats +1.5 1st half --- 4.4 units to win 4 units
Da Bears to win SB (+400) --- 3 units to win 12 units
By Athos on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 08:28 pm: Edit |
Are you the mf who picked the Chargers?
By Khun_mor on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:25 pm: Edit |
Damn !!!! As a diehard Bear fan I was praying to Buddha that FA would not bet on Da Bears .
I'm in mourning already !!!
I can only hope this is one of his rare correct picks !!!!
By Knockkneedman on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:32 am: Edit |
Right there with you KM, looking at FA1 first round picks now has me worried. But everyone is right once in a while and I am still feeling good about the Bears chances this afternoon.
Bear Down Chicago Bears...
By Khun_mor on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 03:15 pm: Edit |
Helluva pick FA !!
Now that was the Bear's defense. I truly believe the turning point in that game was Reggie " Bush" pointing back taunting the Bears and somersaulting into the endzone on his touchdown.It raised the intensity of the defense immediately and got a little fire going on both sides of the ball. Reggie's got some growing up to do.
Dome wussies are now a pathetic 0-10 in outdoor championship games !
FA
I have to disagree with you on the second half of your picks. To DM's dimay I think Peyton is going to cut up the Pat's secondary and the Colts will win by double digits.
However I DO like your Super Bowl bet !!!
By Blazers on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 04:53 pm: Edit |
Bears earned it but I have a feeling they would be bounced in the first round if they were in the AFC...personell-wise, the third worst team ever to go to a Super Bowl now that their defense is plagued with injuries. Overachieving QB who can play well in bad weather, average running game, average receivers at best and awesome defense that has become mediocre with injuries and the defensive backfield not up to par. Worst team ever to go to a SB are the 85 Patriots and second worst are the 94 Chargers. Worst team ever to win a SB are the 70 Colts, 90 Giants and 05 Steelers....I'm a Steelers fan but truth is truth.
By Catocony on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 05:30 pm: Edit |
The Pats almost had the knockout punch delivered but the penalties killed it. Had they gone up 24-3 or 28-3 I think the Colts would be dead right now at halftime. As is, they're behind but have some things working for them now.
By Catocony on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 08:19 pm: Edit |
Yep, the Pats should have put them away in the first half. And their fuckhead receiver who dropped the passes, the first drop didn't hurt them as they got a touchdown right afterward, but the one in the 4th quarter when he was wide open with nobody around him, totally unforgiveable. I don't think he would have scored, but the Pats would have had a first down fairly close to the goal line. A touchdown instead of a field goal would and it may have been a different game.
If Indy isn't favored by 8 or more points I'll be shocked. The Bears aren't very good, Grossman is the worst QB in the Super Bowl in quite some time. Still, if the Ravens won with Dilfer at QB who knows. I hope Manning's thumb is ok, if so Indy will dominate the game.
By Maximus743 on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:57 pm: Edit |
Yep 2005 Steelers should never have beaten the Jets or I should say the Jets beat themselves
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the Colts
The Pats lucky breaks finally went against them and the better, more determined more deserving Peyton Manning is finally in the Super Bowl!
What a game!
And fuck the poor sport LOSER Baby Belichump who would not shake hands at the end of the game.
The good guys finally won.
The Bears barely got by the Seahawks and the Saints did not show up today. Too bad.
Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!
By Don Marco on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 02:10 am: Edit |
no comment about the game cept the D certainly let me down when they needed a stop.
gratz to both the bears and colts fans. I and routing for manning as he and dungy deserves a ring... but whats with all the "god and lord" crap in the interviews?? Yes, perhaps a higher power had something to do with that comeback.
By Maximus743 on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 03:07 pm: Edit |
I love individuals who Thank the Lord for their Success as it is God who is responsible for all good (blessed them with their life/abilities/etc.
More people should be appreciative of their God given looks/body/talents. Not everyone is born with an Athlete's body or a model's looks or an Athlete's skills..
By Don Marco on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
sorry but god had nothing to do with the outcome of that game...
By Due_diligence on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:18 pm: Edit |
This Superbowl is going way over the total of 49. I love that bet
By Jayagopal50 on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 07:00 am: Edit |
I do hope the colts win.Knowing the Dungy family[I am not black]and parents ,he is incredibly decent and sportsmanlike.I am hoping his parents will watch from Heaven their son acheive Glory in this world and go on to Help people and communities
By Knockkneedman on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:25 am: Edit |
First off what does not being black have anything to do with your post? Does this make your opinions on Dungy more valid than if you were black?
I am so sick of hearing why Dungy deserves to win because he is such a great guy, etc. He has had the most talented offense in football over the 5 years he has coached the Colts including Manning who is probably the best QB to ever play the game. And what has he done? One Super Bowl appearance.
Lovie Smith, who is also a great guy, in his first three seasons as an NFL head coach took a 5-11 Bears team in 2004 to the Super Bowl in 2006. He has built one of the best defenses in the league (would have been the best, without two key injuries this year).
Indianapolis will not score more than 20 points against the Bears, Manning will throw two interceptions and Addai will give away a fumble. The Bears will win and people throughout the world will start to remember that football is about great Defense, not cute offense (ok, possibly getting over the top there)
Due_d I would be careful about that over bet, no more the 47 points will be scored
By Don Marco on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:03 pm: Edit |
I'm just hoping for a good game. I agree that peyton should win the ring, but I'll be damn happy if Grossman comes thru with a win, which may perhaps STFU all his pundits, who have nothing better to write about than how he's a liability. Go rex!
By Khun_mor on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:10 pm: Edit |
I'm hoping I have less than 3 girls in my room this time so I can actually watch the game.
Since it's the Bears I will likely be able to resist the temptation this time. Also it's only my second day in AC so I will be "relatively" lonely at that time .
Go Bears and I hope Rex just doesn't cough up the ball. The rest will fall into place.
I believe Jones and Benson will both have big days against the undersized Colts D line.
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 09:51 pm: Edit |
SUPER BOWL XLI --- Bears +7 vs Colts
Bears +7 over Colts --- 11 units to win 10 units
Bears +4 1st half --- 5.5 units to win 5 units
Bears ml 1st half (+185) --- 2 units to win 3.7 units
Futures bet made prior to NFC and AFC Championship Games
Bears to win SB (+400) --- 3 units to win 12 units
BRINGitON Badass Colts !!!!!
By Don Marco on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:33 am: Edit |
well it looks like KM's wish is doomed. The bears are now a certainty to lose.
By Due_diligence on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 05:04 pm: Edit |
2nd half Indy- 6 is another winner to feast on. Go get it guys.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 06:45 pm: Edit |
2007 NBA Playoffs
Rockets -6 over Jazz --- 3.3 units to win 3 units
Rockets -3.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 10:52 pm: Edit |
NFC & AFC Championship Game Results
Bears -2 over Saints --- won 8 units
Bears 1st half --- won 4 units
Pats +3 over Colts --- lost 8.8 units
Pats 1st half --- won 4 units
Won 7.2 units
Super Bowl Results
Bears +7 over Colts --- lost 11 units
Bears +4 1st half --- won 5 units
Bears 1st half ml --- lost 2 units
Lost 8 units
Futures Bets Results
Chargers win SB --- lost 10 units
Ravens win SB --- lost 6 units
Bears win SB --- lost 3 units
Lost 19 units
Wild Card Round Results --- Won 1 unit
2007 NFL PLAYOFFS --- Lost 18.8 units
2004 throu 2007 Playoffs --- Won 194.85 Units
$100 per unit bettor has now won --- $19,485
Have won units in 14 of 20 playoffs entered (70%)
2004 playoffs --- won 147.15 units
2005 playoffs --- won 114.89 units
2006 playoffs --- lost 48.39 units
2007 playoffs thus far to date --- lost 18.8 units
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 10:55 pm: Edit |
2007 NBA Playoffs
Futures Bets
Dallas win NBA Title (+182)--- 10 units to win 18.2 units
San Antonio win NBA Title (+426) --- 5 units to win 21.3 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 12:52 pm: Edit |
GAME 1
Spurs -8 over Nuggets --- 3.3 units to win 3 units
Spurs -4.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
GAME 1
Mavs -10 over warriors --- 3.3 units to win 3 units
Mavs -5.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 01:17 pm: Edit |
GAME 1 - Suns down by 9 at half
Suns -9 (-117)2cd half over Lakers --- 3.51 units to win 3 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 07:45 am: Edit |
GAME 1
Rockets -6 over Jazz --- won 3 units
Rockets 1st half --- lost 1.1 units
GAME1
Spurs -8 over Nuggets --- lost 3.3 units
Spurs 1st half --- lost 1.1 un its
GAME 1
Mavs -10 over Warriors --- lost 3.3 units
Mavs 1st half --- lost 1.1 units
GAME 1
Suns -9 2cd half over Lakers --- won 3 units
lost 9.9 units - won 6 units = lost 3.9 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to date --- lost 3.9 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 07:51 am: Edit |
GAME 3
Mavs -4 over Warriors --- 7.7 units to win 7 units
2 Team Parlay --- 5 units to win 13 units
Mavs -4 over Warriors
Spurs -2 over Nuggets
Mavs -2 1st half over Warriors --- 5.5 units to win 5 units
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 2.5 units to win 6.5 units
Mavs -2
Spurs -1
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 07:54 am: Edit |
Futures Bet
Bulls to win East (+503) --- 3.5 units to win 17.6 units
By Due_diligence on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 10:21 pm: Edit |
Fooledagain, please don't take San Antonio tomorrow-this game has trap written all over it. Take Denver tomorrow. The Pepsi Center will be the most frenzied it has ever been. This is a huge statement game for Denver to announce they’re for real. I think they win by 10 or more just like Golden State did tonight.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:07 pm: Edit |
Damn, Golden state is going to win this series, unreal. I like the Spurs, not likely both Dallas and SA lose game 3.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:12 pm: Edit |
GAME 3
Spurs -2 over Nuggets --- 11 units to win 10 units
Spurs -1 1st half --- 5.5 units to win 5 units
Due, this was my statergy if Mavs lost, make a big play on Spurs to get back a good part of loses , cant see both teams losing.
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 06:28 am: Edit |
Mavs -4 over Warriors --- lost 7.7 units
Mavs 1st half --- lost 5.5 units
2 team parlay --- lost 5 units
2 team parlay 1st half --- lost 2.5 units
Spurs -2 over Nuggets --- won 10 units
Spurs -1 1st half --- won 5 units
lost 20.7 - won 15 = lost 5.7 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to date --- lost 9.6 units
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 06:30 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Rockets -5 (-120) over Jazz --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
Rockets -3 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 07:04 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Toronto -4 over NJ --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Toronto -2 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
GAME 5
Mavs -8 (-120) over Warriors --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Mavs -5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
Game 5
Spurs -7 (-120) over Nuggets --- 2.4 units to win 2 units
Spurs -4 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 07:45 pm: Edit |
Game 5 Results
Rockets -5 over Utah --- lost 3.6 units
Rockets -3 1st half --- lost 1.1
Toronto -4 over NJ --- losty 1.1 units
Toronto -2 1st half --- won 1 unit
Mavs -8 over Warriors --- lost 1.2 units
Mavs -5 1st half --- won 1 unit
Spurs -7 over Denver --- won 2 units
Spurs -4 1st half --- lost 1.1 units
lost 8.1 units- won 4 units = lost 4.1 units
2007 NBA PLAYOFFS to Date --- lost 13.7 units
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 08:03 pm: Edit |
2 Team Parlay --- 1 unit to win 2.5 units
Toronto +7 over NJ (game 6)
Bulls +6 (-120) over Pistons (game 1)
2 Team Parlay --- 1 unit to win 2.5 units
Toronto +7 over NJ (game 6)
Spurs +5 (-120) over Suns (game 1)
GAME 1
Bulls +6 (-120) over Detroit --- 2.4 units to win 2 unit
Bulls ml +190 --- 1 unit to win 1.9 units
Bulls +2.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Bulls ml 1st half +154 --- 1 unit to win 1.54 units
GAME 1
Spurs +5 (-120) over Suns --- 2.4 units to win 2 unit
Spurs ml +180 --- 1 unit to win 1.8 units
Spurs +2.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1
Spurs ml 1st half +140 --- 1 unit to win 1.4 units
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 08:06 pm: Edit |
Bulls to win series over Pistons (+166) --- 3 units to 4.98 units
Spurs to win series over Suns (+141) --- 3 units to win 4.23 units
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 07:59 pm: Edit |
2 Team Parlay --- 2 units to win 5 units
Rockets -6 2cd half over Utah (game 7)
Spurs +5 (-120) over Suns (game 1)
2 Team Parlay --- 1 unit to win 4.13 units
Rockets -6 2cd half
Spurs ml +169
3 Team Parlay --- 2 units to win 11.36 units
Rockets -6 2cd half
Spurs +5 (-120)
Bulls +5 over Pistons (game 2)
3 Team Parlay --- 1 unit to win 14.15 units
Rockets -6 2cd half
Spurs ml +169
Bulls ml +195
By Explorer8939 on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 01:50 pm: Edit |
At this rate, you are going to lose so many units that you won't have cash to pay for your internet connection, and we will never read how this all turned out.
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 07:24 am: Edit |
Bulls +3 1st half over Det --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Bulls ml 1st half (+155) --- 1 unit to win 1.55
Bulls to win series over Det (+265) --- 1.5 units to win 3.97 units
2, 3 team parlays above still pending, push on Rockets 2cd half and Spurs won.
Actually, Rockets should of covered 2cd half wnen refs called a foul on Rockets off the ball with 1.7 secs left, last 2 min of game can not call foul off the ball, both announcers and evryone in studio said game should of been over but instead Utah sinks both free throws to give Rockets the push.
2cd bad call by refs cost me on Rockets, game 5 with Rockets up 4, I had -5, Yoa gets the ball with less than 10 secs left Boozer tries to foul him but refs dont call the foul, Boozer puts his hands on his head and looks at the ref like what the fuck, why didnt you call the foul ?
By Explorer8939 on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:56 am: Edit |
Oh the humanity!
By Solid808 on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 12:32 am: Edit |
It took me a long time and a lot of money lost to come to the realization that I suck at gambling.
It takes others longer or perhaps never to come to those terms.
IMHO my money is best spend saving for trips and enjoying the life!
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 05:39 am: Edit |
2004 -2007 entering NBA Playoffs --- won 194.85 net units
$100 per unit bettor has won $19,485 following Fooledagain1 advice.
have won units in 14 of 20 playoffs entered (70%)
Just for the record , winning in 70% of playoffs entered would most likely rank Fooledagain1 as the NUMBER 1 rank sports predictor of any pro or sports service over the same period of time in Las Vegas who is willing to put all picks in writing before the games are played.
And there are website that track such things,
Yes, the averasge Joe can not win at sports betting, because all they know how to do is watch games , see who is playing hot then back the hot team, and use a combination of quess work and luck. Impossible to win using such methods.
By Explorer8939 on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 09:33 am: Edit |
Unfortunately, FooledAgain's actual winnings since he began posting his picks ahead of time here are, well, awful. He was really good when he reported his picks after the fact, though.
Over the long haul, if FA reports his picks ahead of time, his losing should more or less equal the vig that he is paying.
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
GAME 3
Bulls -2 over Det --- 4.4 units to win 4 units
Bulls -1 1st half --- 2.2 units to win 2 units
2 Team Parlay --- 4 units to win 10.4 units
Bulls -2 over Det
Spurs -4 over Suns
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 2 units to win 5.2 units
Bulls -1
Spurs -2
Bulls to win series over Det (+620) --- 1 unit to win 6.2 units
Bulls to win East (+1196) --- 1 unit to win 11.96 units
Spurs to win NBA Title (+217) --- 5 units to win 10.85 units
By sampson on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 12:53 am: Edit |
Your 4 unit parlay from the Bulls to the Spurs doesn't make any sense. I know you already lost the Bulls game, but if you would just take your 4 units and bet it straight, it would pay 7.6 units and if it won, you could put it on San Antonio the next day and it could return 14.5 total which would be more than your 4 plus 10.4.
(Message edited by sampson on May 11, 2007)
By sampson on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 12:59 am: Edit |
and of course you could have done the same with your 1st half parlay that is still alive. The way you are doing it, you win less when you do win. Of course if you split, you loose...it is hard enough to win one game, but when you parlay the book only has to win one game. Great spot for the book.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 06:36 am: Edit |
Good point, but under your senerio I win 14.4 units, Bulls bet wins 4 and parlay wins 10.4. If Bulls lose we are both down 8.4 units if Bulls win and Spurs lose we both break even.
GAME 3
Spurs -4 over Suns --- 11 units to 10 units
Spurs -2 1st half --- 2.2 units to win 2
2 Team Parlay --- 1.5 units to win 3.9 units
Spurs -4
Bulls +3 over Det (game 4)
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 1.5 unit to win 3.9
Spurs -2.5
Bulls +1.5
By sampson on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 11:15 am: Edit |
No you still lose only 4 units as you bet 4 and it pays 7.6 and you put the entire 7.6 in the second game...if you lose the first or second game you lose only your 4 units.
A two game basketball or football parlay only makes sense when you are short on money and the games are being played at the same time.
By Khun_mor on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 01:48 pm: Edit |
Any bookie will tell you they absolutely LOVE parlay bettors.
By sampson on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 04:55 pm: Edit |
and will mortgage their homes to book them.
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 06:41 pm: Edit |
2 TEAM Parlay --- 1.5 units to win 3.75 units
Spurs -3 over Suns (game 4)
Bulls +8 (-120) over Det (game 5)
2 Team Parlay --- .5 units to win 3.3 units
Spurs -3
Bulls ml +300
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 1.5 units to win 3.9 units
Spurs -2
Bulls +4
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 07:17 pm: Edit |
Theres a number of ways to play it, but here is the difference in the 2 ways, if you lose 1 game you lose 4 units, my way I can lose 1 game and break even, but you cant. Advantage my way.
But my way if Bulls lose I lose 8.4 units, where as your way loses 4 units only. Advantage your way, it about the same either way.
heres the other difference you are missing, yes you collect 14.5 units but that is just a 10.5 profit, coz 4 units were yours in the initial bet.
my way pays a 14.4 profit , 4 units more than your way and coz I risk 4 more units it works out the same.
My 4 unit parlay pays a 10.4 profit exactly the same as yours. Well .1 difference.
Here is the other difference which does not apply to every game but did in my situation.
The monmey was coming in on Spurs pushing the spread up, if I waited I could of layed more points so locking in the best spread required getting down before Bulls game.
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 05:42 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Bulls +8 (-120) over Det --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Bulls ml +330 --- .5 units to win 1.65 units
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 05:52 am: Edit |
sampson, both ways are the same, what your missing is under your way the 14.5 units you collect includes your initial bet of 4 units, so your net profit is 10.5 units
My 2 team parlay of 4 units I collect 14.4 units, just like you, but 4 units is my money in initial bet , so it produces a 10.4 net profit.
Well unless you consider the .1 difference to be a big deal, I dont, your way also requires much more time, as you have to wait untill the Bulls game ends to know if you won or lost before getting down on Spurs, seems like a lot of extra time and effort for .1 unit.
By sampson on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:06 pm: Edit |
Yes over the course of time, the .1 unit is big. I would prefer it in my pocket instead of his...but I am sure he is happy if he has a regular parlay bettor. If you are involved in gambling and you want to win, you should take advantage when you can...always shop for the best number, and always play for the best return.
By sampson on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 11:06 pm: Edit |
The dreaded double click, double post.
(Message edited by sampson on May 15, 2007)
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 07:11 pm: Edit |
GAME 5
Spurs -2 over Suns --- 11 units to win 10 units
Spurs -1.5 1st half --- 4.4 units to win 4 units
2 Team Parlay --- 1.5 units to win 3.75 units
Spurs -3
Bulls -1 (-120) over Det (game 5)
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 1.5 units to win 3.75 units
Spurs -1.5
Bulls pk (-120)
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 08:02 pm: Edit |
sampson, I agree it is better to have the .1 then not. Assuming you have the time to shop and get down on 2 bets instead of 1 thats the smart way to play .
The .1 is not that big a deal, really, how many parlays can you win in 1 year ? 50 parlay wins would be just 5 additional units but thats spending alot of time making 2cd bets that parlays eliminate.
Granted, I rather have the 5 units then not, sure.
I have gone over many different ways to play and have determined the single most important aspect is getting the best point spread available, over the long run you will do better even if it pays less.
Here is a example that just happen in game 3 , 2 team parlay in 1st half , Spurs and Bulls.
The money was coming in on Spurs driving the spread up, I shopped and found Spurs -2 in 1st half, it was 2.5 everywhere else.
I played the parlay and locked-in the -2, had I waited for Bulls game to end I would of had to take 2.5.
Well, as things went, Spurs down 1 and Finley hits a 3 and Spurs win 1st half by 2.
Now, I pushed but had I waited I would have lost. Thats much bigger and much more important than getting a .1 extra return.
My 2 team parlay becomes a straight bet winning 3.6 units but had I waited and bet after Bulls game I would lose 4 units.
Thats a 7.6 unit difference, at .1 units it would take 76 parlay wins to get the 7.6 units back.. Thats the power of getting the best spread available.
I always look to get the best point spread, the parlay I just played game 5 is the same deal, the moneys coming in on Bulls so its much better to parlay in this case and lock-in the -1. If the moneys coming in on Det I would likely wait.
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:54 pm: Edit |
It happened again last night, had you waited to bet Spurs you pushed at -3, but getting down early I got -2, and won.
The points come in to play more often then one thinks, you need just 1 or 2 times the points come in to play and your way ahead.
On a 4 unit 2 team parlay I would win 10.4 units.
On the same parlay had the Spurs been your second bet and you waited to get down, you lay -3 and push. You win 3.6 units.
Point being there are a number of consideration for each bet.
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:58 pm: Edit |
GAME 6
Bulls pk (-120) 1st half --- 2.1 units to win 1.5 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 06:36 pm: Edit |
GAME 6
Spurs -2 (-120) over Suns --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
Spurs -1 (-120) 1st half --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:08 pm: Edit |
First, the Bad News
2 team parlay --- lost 1 unit
Toronto +7 (game 6) over NJ
Bulls +6 (game 1) over Det
GAME 1
Bulls +6 over Det --- lost 2.4 un its
Bulls ml --- -------- lost 1 uint
Bulls +2.5 1st half --- lost 1.1 units
Bulls ml 1st ----------lost 1 unit
GAME 1
Spurs ml 1st half over Suns --- lost 1 unit
3 team parlay --- lost 2 units
Rockets 2cd half
Spurs
Bulls
3 team parlay 1st half --- lost 1 unit
Rockets 2cd half
Spurs ml
Bulls ml
GAME 2
Bulls 1st half over Det --- lost 1.1 units
Bulls 1st half ml ---- lost 1 unit
GAME 3
Bulls -2 over Det --- lost 4.4 units
GAME 3'S
2 team parlay --- lost 4 units
Bulls -1
Spurs
2 team parlay 1st half --- lost 1.5 units
Bulls +1.5 (game 4)
Spurs -2.5 (game 3)
2 team parlay --- lost 1.5 units
Spurs -3 (game 4)
Bulls +8 (game 5)
2 team parlay --- lost .5 units
Spurs -3 (game 4)
Bulls ml (game 5)
GAME 5
Spurs 1st half over Suns --- lost 4.4 units
2 team parlay --- lost 1.5 units
Spurs -3 (game 5)
Bulls -1 (game 6)
2 team parlay 1st half --- lost 1.5 units
Spurs -1.5 (game5)
Bulls pk (game 6)
Bulls to win series over Det (+166) --- lost 3 units
Bulls to win series (+265) --- lost 1.5 units
Bulls to win series (+620) --- lost 1 unit
Bulls to win East (+503) --- lost 3.5 units
Bulls to win East (+1196) --- lost 1 unit
LOST 39.9 UNITS
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:30 pm: Edit |
Now, the Good News
2 team parlay --- won 2.5 units
Toronto +7 (game 6) over NJ
Spurs +5 (game 1) over Suns
GAME 1
Spurs +5 over Suns --- won 2 units
Spurs ml +180 --- won 1.8 units
Spurs +2.5 1st half --- won 1 unit
2 team parlay --- won 1.8 units
Rockets -6 2cd half (game 7) over Jazz -- push
Spurs +5 (game 1) -- won
2 team parlay --- won 1.69 units
Rockets -6 2cd half -- push
Spurs ml +169 -- won
2 team parlay 1st half --- won 1.8 units
Bulls -1 (game 3) over Det -- won
Spurs -2 (game 3) over Suns -- push
GAME 3
Spurs -4 over Suns --- won 10 units, hey now !!!
Spurs -2 1st half --- Push
2 team parlay --- won 3.9 units
Spurs -4 (game 3)
Bulls +3 (game 4)
2 team parlay 1st half --- won 3.9 units
Spurs -2 (game 4)
Bulls +4 (game 5)
GAME 5
Bulls +8 over Det --- won 1 unit
Bulls ml +330 --- --- won 1.65 units
GAME 5
Spurs -2 over Suns --- won 10 units, hey now !!!!
Game 6
Bulls pk 1st half --- won 1.5 units
GAME 6
Spurs -2 over Suns --- won 3 units
Spurs -1 1st half ---- won 1 unit
Spurs to win series over Suns (+141) --- won 4.23 units
WON 52.57 UNITS
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:34 pm: Edit |
Previous lost 13.7 units
Won 52.57 units - lost 39.9 unit = won 12.67 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- lost 1.03 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 09:35 am: Edit |
GAME 1
Spurs -6 (-120) over Jazz --- 4.8 units to win 4 units
Spurs -3.5 1st half --- 2.2 units to win 2 units
2 Team Parlay --- 1.5 units to win 3.75 units
Spurs -6 (-120)
Cavs +6 over Det (game 1)
2 Team Parlay --- .5 units to win 2.62 units
Spurs -6 (-120)
Cavs ml (+240)
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- 1 unit to win 2.6 units
Spurs -3.5
Cavs +3.5
Cavs to win series over Det (+281) --- 2 units to win 5.62 units
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 06:06 am: Edit |
GAME 1
Spurs -6 over Jazz --- won 4 units
Spurs -3.5 1st half --- won 2 units
2 Team Parlay --- won 3.75 units
Spurs -6
Cavs +6
2 Team Parlay --- won 2.6 units
2 Team Parlay --- lost .5 units
Spurs -6
Cavs ml (+240)
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 10.82 units
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 05:52 am: Edit |
Cavs down 0-1, to win series over Det(+429) --- 1 unit to win 4.29 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 06:04 am: Edit |
GAME 3
Jazz -1 (-120) over Spurs --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Jazz pk (-125) 1st half --- 1.25 units to win 1 unit
2007 Stanley Cup Finals
Ottawa to win series over Anahiem (+105) --- 4 units to win 4.2 units
GAME 1
Ottawa ml +135 over Anaheim --- 1 unit to win 1.35 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 07:57 am: Edit |
GAME 3
Cavs -3 (-120) over Det --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Cavs -2 1st half --- 1.1 unit to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 07:04 am: Edit |
GAME 3
Jazz -1 over Spurs --- won 1 unit
Jazz 1st half --- lost 1.25 units
Cavs -3 over Det --- won 1 unit
Cavs -2 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 12.57 units
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 05:51 pm: Edit |
GAME 4
Jazz +2 over Spurs --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Jazz 1st half +1 (+100) --- 1 unit to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 05:52 am: Edit |
GAME 4
Cavs +1 over Det --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cavs pk (-125) 1st half --- 1.25 units to win 1 unit
By sampson on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:49 am: Edit |
That is weird pick -125 for first half...
I looked at my place and it is +1/2 -110 better on the number and better on the line....Hard to imagine on a team getting a point in the game is pk and -125 in the first half...the pick is believalbe but the minus 125....Does your place offer both teams at -125 or do you get a plus with Detroit in the first half?
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:18 am: Edit |
Yes, it was wierd, but where I got +1 they had no 1st half line, all other places had Cavs -.5, so I grab best line of pk, even if I paid -125.
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:22 am: Edit |
GAME 4
Jazz +2 over Spurs --- lost 1.1
Jazz 1st half --- lost 1
Cavs +1 --- won 1 unit
Cavs 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 12.47 units
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:29 am: Edit |
NHL GAME 1
Ottawa ml +135 over Anahiem --- lost 1 unit
2007 NHL Playoffs to Date --- lost 1 unit
GAME 2
Ottawa ml +120 over Anahiem --- 1 unit to win 1.2 units
Ottawa down 0-1, to win series over Anahiem (+166) --- 1.5 units to win 2.49 units
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:31 am: Edit |
Det was +.5 +105
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 06:24 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Spurs -7 over Jazz --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Spurs -4 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 06:32 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Spurs -7 over Jazz --- won 1 unit
Spurs -4 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 14.47 units
NHL Finals
GAME 2
Ottawa ml +120 over Anahiem --- lost 1 unit
2007 NHL Playoffs to Date --- lost 2 units
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 06:34 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Cavs +6 (-120) over Det --- 1.2 units to win 1 unit
Cavs +3 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 06:09 am: Edit |
GAME 5
Cavs +6 over Det --- won 1 unit
Cavs +3 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 16.47 units
Series Bets Pending
Cavs to win series over Det (+281) --- 2 units to win 5.62 units
Cavs down 0-1 to win series over Det (+429) --- 1 unit to win 4.29 units
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 06:11 am: Edit |
Ottawa down 0-2 to win series over the Lucky Ducks (+321) --- .5 units to win 1.6 units
GAME 3
Ottawa -1.5 (+200) over the Lucky Ducks --- 1 unit to win 2 units
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 08:30 am: Edit |
Cavs to win series over Det --- won 5.62 units
Cavs down 0-1 to win series --- won --- 4.29 units
won 9.91 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 26.38 units
2007 NHL Playoffs
GAME 3
Ottawa -1.5 (+200) over Lucky Ducks --- won 2 units
2007 NHL Playoffs to Date --- won 0 units
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 08:44 am: Edit |
Fooledagain1 now moves into 2cd place when matched with 13 pro's in Las Vegas who paid to have their sports service pick's monitored.
In fact, my 2 team parlay's by themselves, would rank me ahead of more than half the pro's.
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 07:18 am: Edit |
GAME 5 NHL Finals
Ottawa ml (+160) over Lucky Ducks --- 2 units to win 3.2 units
Parlays with Combination of Different Sports
2 Team Parlay --- 1 unit to win 3.77 units
Ottawa ml (+160)
Spurs -7 (-120) over Cavs (game 1)
2 Team Parlay --- .5 units to win 1.98 units
Ottawa ml (+160)
Spurs -4 1st half
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 06:36 am: Edit |
2007 NBA Finals
GAME 1
Spurs -7 (-120) over Cavs --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
Spurs -4 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
2 Team Parlay --- .5 units to win 1.25 units
Spurs -7 (-120)
Spurs/ Cavs under 180.5
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- .5 units to win 1.3 units
Spurs -4
Spurs/ Cavs under 90.5
Futures Pending
Spurs to win NBA title, made beginning of playoffs (+426) --- 5 units to win 21.3 units
Spurs to win NBA Title, made with series tied 1-1 with Suns (+217) --- 5 units to win 10.85 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:23 am: Edit |
2007 NHL Playoffs
Game 5
Ottawa ml +160 over Ducks --- lost 2 units
Ottawa to win series over Ducks (+105) --- lost 4 units
Ottawa to win series over Ducks (166) --- lost 1.5 units
Ottawa to win series over Ducks (+321) --- lost .5 units
2007 NHL Playoffs to Date --- lost 8 units
Parlays with Combination of Different Sports
2 Team Parlay --- lost 1 unit
Ottawa game 5 ml over Ducks
Spurs -7 game over Cavs
2 Team Parlay --- .5 units
Ottawa ml game 5 over Ducks
Spurs -4 1st half
Parlays with Combination of Different Sports to Date --- lost 1.5 units
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 06:39 am: Edit |
2007 NBA Plaoffs
GAME 1 NBA FINALS
Spurs -7 (-120) over Cavs --- won 3 units
Spurs -4 1st half --- won 1 unit
2 Team Parlay --- won 1.25 units
Spurs -7
under 180.5
2 Team Parlay 1st half --- won 1.3 units
Spurs -4
under 90.5
WON 6.55 UNITS
NBA PLAYOFFS to DATE --- WON 32.93 UNITS
Fooledagain1 has now cashed 10 of 20 , 2 team parlays (50%) through-out 2007 NBA Playoffs, that's a better % than over half the 13 pro's in Las Vegas who paid to have their sports services picks monitored, are cashing straight bets.
Fooledagain1 is now 11-2 ats (84.6%) in the NBA Finals, picking the game ats winners in past 4 NBA Finals
By Porker on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 11:36 pm: Edit |
Good for you, FA1. Just hope when football season comes around you bet IMAGINARY units!
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 05:27 am: Edit |
2007 Tennis Majors -- French Open
Nadal (-200) over Federer --- 5 units to win 2.5 units
By Porker on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 03:26 pm: Edit |
Nadal ABUSED Federer. Ro-Zhay will never win the French as long as that guy's still in the draw. History, however, shows that if you keep showing up and winning, the draw will eventually be kind to you (though the vast majority don't take advantage!), so we'll see if Federer ultimately gets his Holy Grail.
Of course on any surface besides clay, Nadal has so far been Ro-zhay's BITCH. Will be interesting to see if he ever turns that around. I doubt he will. Federer is easily the greatest all-surface player that ever lived.
By Porker on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 03:33 pm: Edit |
Great article about today's Nadal whoopass: http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=AivhHOX.mlndh2Ztxn2xz9o5nYcB?slug=ap-frenchopen&prov=ap&type=lgns
Does ANYBODY think Nadal can reach the Wimbledon final again? The fucker's pretty damned good!
By sampson on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 11:04 am: Edit |
I played tournament tennis for several years and am embarassed to say I don't even know the players today. Can't argue with your assessment of someone I never saw but one guy that could play on all surfaces....Ille Nastase...I could watch that guy play anytime anywhere...he was a nutcase, but always fun to watch....remember the "double strung" racquet?
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 06:00 am: Edit |
GAME 3
Cavs +2 (-115) over Spurs --- 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Cavs ml (+110) --- .5 unit to win .55 units
1st half
Cavs +1 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Cavs ml (+110) --- .5 unit to win .55 units
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 06:24 am: Edit |
GAME 4
Spurs -3 over Cavs --- 1.1 units to win 1
Spurs -1.5 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Explorer8939 on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:38 am: Edit |
Congratulations on your winnings for the 2007 NBA playoff. Now, get out while you are ahead!
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 07:24 pm: Edit |
Tennis Majors -- French Open Final
Nadal (-200) over Federer --- won 2.5 units
2007 Tennis Majors to Date --- won 2.5 units
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 07:37 pm: Edit |
GAME 3 NBA FINALS
Cavs +2 over Spurs --- lost 1.15 units
Cavs ml --- lost .5 units
Cavs 1st half +1 --- lost 1.1 units
Cavs ml --- lost .5 units
GAME 4
Spurs -3 over Cavs --- lost 1.1 units
Spurs 1st half -1.5 --- won 1 unit
lost 3.35 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won --- 29.58 units
Futures Made Prior to Start of Playoffs
Mavs to win title (+182) --- lost 10 unit
Spurs to win title (+426) --- won 21.3 units
Futures made after game 2 loss to Suns with series tied 1-1
Spurs to win title (+217) --- won 10.85 units
won 22.15 units
2007 NBA Playoffs to Date --- won 51.73 units
$100 per unit bettor won $5,173
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 07:54 pm: Edit |
2007 All Playoffs to Date --- Won 25.93 units
$100 per unit bettor has now won $2,593
NFL --- lost 18.8 units
NHL --- lost 8 units
Parlays with combination of different sports --- lost 1.5 units
Tennis Majors --- won 2.5 units
NBA --- won 51.73 units
Fooledagain1's 4 year run to Date on Club Hombre --- WON 239.58 NET UNITS
$100 Per Unit Bettor has now Won --- $23,958
Have Won Units in 15 of 22 Playoffs Entered (68.2%)
Arena Football Playoffs coming soon.
By Porker on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 01:51 am: Edit |
Lesson learned: FA1 should quit betting in June.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 09:51 am: Edit |
NFL Europe -- Championship Game
Frankfurt -4 (-120) over Hamburg --- 2.4 units to win 2 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 09:16 am: Edit |
NFL Europe - Championship Game
Frankfurt -4 over Hamburg --- lost 2.4 units
2007 Playoffs to Date --- won 23.53 units
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:47 am: Edit |
2007 Arena Football Playoffs
Dallas -11 (-120) over Columbus --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 08:04 pm: Edit |
2007 Wimbledon Finals
Federer vs Nadal
This match has the makings of an alltime down to the wire classic. Nadal has elavated his game and has a good shot to win.
Nadal (+514) over Federer --- 1 unit to win 5.14 units
PROPS
Nadal to win 3-2 (+1100) --- .5 units to win 5.5 units
Federer to win 3-2 (+684) --- .5 units to win 3.42 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:48 am: Edit |
Arena
Georgia -8 over Philly --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 06:23 am: Edit |
Arena
Chicago -10 over Los Angles --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 05:05 am: Edit |
Nadal (+514) over Federer --- lost 1 unit
Nadal to win 3-2 --- lost .5
Federer to win 3-2 --- won 3.42 units
2007 Wimbledon --- won 1.92 units
2007 French Open --- won 2.5 units
2007 Tennis Majors --- won 4.42 units
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 05:12 am: Edit |
Dallas -11 over Columbus --- lost 3.6 units
Georgia -8 over Philly --- won 1 unit
Chicago -10 over LA --- won 1 unit
2007 Arena Football Playoffs to Date --- lost 1.6 units
Unfortunatly the books don't offer 1st half lines anymore in Arena, would of had a 5-1 weekend.
By the way, Federer's 3-2 win over Nadal was very first time he was taken to a 5th set during his current run at Wimbleton, hence the big odds.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 05:26 am: Edit |
2007 Arena Football Conference Championship Games
Chicago +4 (-120) over San Jose --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 01:39 pm: Edit |
2007 WNBA Playoffs
Finals - Game One
Detroit -2 (-120) over Phoniex --- 3.6 units to win 3 units
Detroit 1st half -1.5 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 09:08 am: Edit |
2007 Arena Football
Chicago +4 over San Jose --- lost 3.6 units
2007 Arena Football Playoffs Final Standings --- lost --- 5.2 units
2007 WNBA Playoffs
Detroit -2 over Phoniex --- won 3 units
Detroit 1st half --- won 1 unit
2007 WNBA Playoffs to date --- won 4 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 09:12 am: Edit |
2007 US Open Tennis Final
Djokovic over Federer (+430) --- .5 units to win 2.15 units
Federer to win 3-2 over Djokovic (+680) --- .5 units to win 3.4 units
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 09:25 am: Edit |
2007 NFL Surprise Teams
2 Best teams not in playoffs last season
1. Jax
2. Denver
Ride these 2 teams to win divisions and AFC and SB. Ride all season on point spreads.
2 best teams to win 6 games or fewer last season
1. Minnesota
2. Arizona
Don't be surprised if 1 or both of these teams are in the playoff race at seasons end.
Ride these 2 on the point spreads this season.
Super Bowl Winner --- San Diego or 1 of my surprise teams.
Team I'D be careful with, who could be overrated and may take a step back --- NY Jets.
By Porker on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 01:27 pm: Edit |
Dude, Federer in a WALK.
Minnesota D was certainly awesome today, but who knows if they'll dominate against decent teams, and they're passing offense is a complete joke. Jackson better be a "game manager" type, and even if he IS (improbably) decent at doing that, that leaves the Vikings UPSIDE at, what, 9-7?
Adrian Peterson looking like a STUD, though. They should take advantage of Chester Taylor's early injury and just head him out to pasture to let the future kick ass sooner rather than later.
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 05:13 am: Edit |
Djokovic did cover the spread, he was getting +5.5 games and lost by 4.
Losing that first set ruined the day, he had 5 set points but couldn't cash in.
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 04:57 pm: Edit |
Djokovic over Federer --- lost .5 units
Federer to win 3-2 --- lost .5 units
2007 Tennis Majors to date --- won 3.42 units
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 05:01 pm: Edit |
WNBA FINAL - game 3 - tied 1-1
Detroit +6 over Phoniex --- 2.2 units to win 2 units
Detroit ml +240 --- 1 unit to win 2.4 units
Detroit 1st half +3 --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Detroit 1st half ml (+162) --- .5 units to win .81 units
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 05:27 am: Edit |
Fooledagain1 does it again !!!! Goes to 4-0 ATS and 2-0 on the ml in WNBA Playoffs.
All the amatuers came out to play for game 3 last night, pouring they're hard earned cash down on Phoniex, pushing the spread from Phoniex -3.5 all the way to Phoniex -6.
Phoniex was red hot coming into game 3, winning 15 of last 17 games, including 7 straight at home and were fresh off a 30 point wipping of Detroit in game 2.
Obviously Phoniex would be the right play in game 3 right ? Wrong !!!
This is the type of situation I've talk about on the site over and over again, the average sports bettor only know's to watch games, see who's hot and back the hot team, with this kind of information over time it's virtually impossible to win, over the long run, and is why most fail.
Phoniex plays a style very similar to the Phoniex Suns in the NBA, up-tempo, run and gun offense taking alot of 3's, but are a very, very pathetically poor rebounding team, just like the Suns.
Poor rebounding teams rarely win titles on the pro level. In fact, since 1974, the 1st year of rebounding stats, of the 42 NBA champs since, just 2 were poor rebounding teams. And of the 9 WNBA champs, not 1 was a poor rebounding team.
That's 51 champs and 2 were poor rebounding teams. The odds are stack very heavy against Phoniex winning the title.
Phoniex is by far the worst rebounding team I've ever seen on the pro level, according to all the stats.
NBA Champs and WNBA Champs lead the series after game 3 in over 90% of all 5 game or 7 game series.
Detroit was clearly the right play, I would of masde a major call in the game had one of Detroit best players not been injuried.
Detroit +6 over Phoniex --- won 2 units
Detroit ml +240 --- won 2.4 units
Detroit 1st half +3 --- won 1 unit
Detroit 1st half ml (+162) --- won .81 units
won 6.21 units
2007 WNBA Playoffs to date --- won 10.61 units
By Khun_mor on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:23 pm: Edit |
Careful you don't separate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
I can't friggin believe they even post a line on the nags of the WNBA. What a joke.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:10 am: Edit |
WNBA FINALS - Game 5 of a Best of 5 series
Detroit -2 over Phoniex --- 2.2 units to win 2 units
Detroit 1st half --- 1.1 units to win 1 unit
Hey, the WNBA is one of the easiest playoffs to beat, the lines are way off because it's not so popular.
The last 2 years I've posted picks on WNBA Playoffs my teams were hit by injuries to they're best players, but I still ended ahead and could of had major scores.
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 09:23 pm: Edit |
WNBA FINAL - Game 5
Detroit -2 over Phoniex --- lost 2.2 units
Detroit 1st half --- lost 1.1 units
WNBA Playoffs Final Standing --- won 7.61 units
$100 per unit bettor won --- $761
2007 Playoffs to Date --- WON 26.86 UNITS
$100 per unit bettor won --- $2,686
Fooledagain1's 4 Year Run Through the Playoffs
won units in 3 of 4 years ---- 75%
won units in 17 of 26 playoffs entered --- 65%
2003 - 2007 Playoffs to Date --- WON 240.51 net units
$100 per unit bettor has now won --- $24,051 following "The Master" Fooledagain1's advice.
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 08:52 am: Edit |
Cowboys vs Patroits --- How bout those Cowboys !!!!!!!
The betting public has way overreacted to Dallas's poor play monday night vs Bills, and they are pouring money on the Pats, point spread opened Pats -4 and now it's -6. One offshore book reports 95% of the bets are on Pats.
However, Dallas +6 is the right play in the game, and grab the money line while your at it. ML can be had for +190 to +220.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 09:00 am: Edit |
How Bout Those Cowboys !!!!!
The Patroits are playing on an alltime, historical level, and are now in position to surpass the 85 Bears as the most dominate team in a single season in NFL History.
With all that said I'll grab Miami +17.
By Due_diligence on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 03:51 pm: Edit |
I'm going to put some coin on the Rockies +200 tonight. Last June,they played well against Boston winning 2 out of 3 games when they were barely a .500 team. Remember, Francis beat Beckett and the top of the Rockies lineup did quite well against Boston's ace. The Rockies are too hot to fade right now. Do so at your own risk. +200 is too much of a value to pass up on.
(Message edited by due_diligence on October 24, 2007)
By Explorer8939 on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 08:16 pm: Edit |
Oops.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 09:16 am: Edit |
How bout those Giants !!!!
I'll take Miami +10 over Giants in today's action
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:34 am: Edit |
Colts vs Pats --- WOW both teams coming in Red Hot, I'll pass, but next week go against the team that covers the spread this week.
This weeks picks
Minny +7 over Chargers
49ers +3.5 over Falcons
Houston +3 over Raiders
By Porker on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:06 pm: Edit |
Why the HELL would you bet on Minnesota in that game? Please tell me ONE outstanding thing about the Minnesota offense besides Adrian Peterson, who SHOULD get stuffed by superior Chargers D. And whoever they throw out there at QB is a CLOWN.
Actually, is there ANYTHING to be gained by betting on the three worst offensive teams in football? At least with the 49'ers and Houston, they're playing shitty teams, but Minnesota? The Chargers got off to a slow start, but they got a ton more talent.
By Porker on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:07 pm: Edit |
Actually, looks like ALL your bets are on the worst teams in the NFL to be not as bad as the betting public thinks. I'm sure you're getting your ass kicked again this year, right?
By Porker on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 01:04 pm: Edit |
But of course Adrian Peterson goes NUTS! The guy's like a 6'2" Barry Sanders?
By Khun_mor on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 04:33 pm: Edit |
Where the hell did the Bolt's defense go ?? I don't ever again want to hear about Shawne Merrimen being the best defensive player in the league. Wthout the steriods -- er excuse me the "tainted supplements" -- he's just a little better than ordinary . Four tackles no sacks -- great game !!
BTW I know DM will be insufferable but you have to hand it to Brady. He outplayed Manning in the dome . Might as well hand out the Lombardi trophy now.
By Solid808 on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 04:41 pm: Edit |
imho, I attribute the lack of success the Chargers are having to Norv Turner...He should stick to being an awesome offensive coordinator.
By Porker on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 05:55 pm: Edit |
Patriots won the game and deserved to, but don't agree about Manning being outplayed. Drops and pass interference penalties were the difference in stats, not to mention Colts usual game plan to sit on the ball, milk the clock and limit the other team's posessions.
Randy Moss outplayed just about everybody, and that's really the story.
By Porker on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
Re: Shawne Merriman, he sure likes to play against the Raiders!
WHO DOESN'T???
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 09:30 am: Edit |
Games of the Week
San Diego +4 over Colts
Arizona pk over Lions
49ers +10 over Seahawks
Most Overrated Team of 1st Half
Green Bay 7-1, 5-1-2 ATS
The Pack are playing nowhere as well as they're record would suggest and are likely to fall back a bit in 2cd half.
2 teams I won't take action against this week but are ready to fall back
Bills
Siants
By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 06:16 pm: Edit |
Games of the Week
Ravens +3 over Browns
Giants -2.5 over Lions
Carolina +10 over Packers
2 teams ready to rise from the ashes this week or next, won't take any action this week , but, beware
Raiders
49ers
The 49ers burnt me 2 weeks in a row, don't be surprised they get it done this week, I bet I'll reget not backing them this week.
By Khun_mor on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 10:52 pm: Edit |
Looks like an 0 fer weekend coming up. The only thing that might save you is the ridiculous spread on the Pack, but never a good bet to hope a big underdog can luck out and cover .
The Raiders and 49ers are hopeless I would not hold my breath waiting for their "rise".
By Solid808 on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 03:59 am: Edit |
Rams are supposely healthy and even if the Niners were healthy, they couldn't do jack...Rams all the way!
By sampson on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 03:08 pm: Edit |
He got a push on the Ravens...but I would always buy on and off of 3...I had the same game and bought the hook....hell no one should have lost that game as 3 is such a key number everyone liking the Browns should have bought it down to 2.5 and Ravens bettors should have bought it up to 3.5....always do the same on 7's as well.
NYG of course covered...and the 9ers are playing at this moment...
(Message edited by sampson on November 18, 2007)
By Porker on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:37 pm: Edit |
His "strategy" is pretty easy to see: Pick the shittiest offenses in the NFL and bet the farm... Seems pretty stupid to me, but in the long run, all betting is stupid (if you value MONEY), so KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!
By Khun_mor on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 09:55 pm: Edit |
Yup Beware of those Niners and Raiders.
Still in the ashes I'm afraid. SF may well be the worst team in the league and will give the Fish a run for the #1 draft pick.
By Solid808 on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 08:17 am: Edit |
Niners have a ton of problems and you are right KM about them being the worst or tied for worst in the NFL.
Being a Niner fan, I had such promise after the off season draft and free agency.
Thought this was going the be Alex Smith's year to shine, (granted the O line sucks) but Smith looks like Harrington and a bust of a 1st round pick. Smith has the lowest passer rating in the league.
For starters...SF needs to draft or look into free agency for another quarterback, Nolan needs to overhaul the Offensive Coaching Staff (if he doesn't lose his job first). And lose Dilfer
By sampson on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 11:36 am: Edit |
I didn't see the game, but cannot figure out why SF elected to kick a field goal, under the 2:00 mark down by 7....they were at the 19 and 4th down...seems likes they are more likely to win the game by going for a touchdown in that spot...
I see their coach says, he was going for the "win"...by kicking a field goal, getting the ball back and then scoring a TD. Well it almost worked, but when they got the ball back it was at their own 11. Seems to me if they did not score, they would have had better field position that the 11...and they actually drove 68 yards on that final drive, before throwing an INT on the final play from the 21.
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 01:15 pm: Edit |
1-1-1 ATS for the week
6-5-1 ATS Year to Date
Hey , both 49ers and Raiders were right there, both failed to push by 1 pt.
Packers continue to play over they're heads and are primed and ready to go down.
I will always buy to a key number but never off a key number. The reason, if the key number comes into play worse case senerio I push , don't lose. I failed to do this with 49ers +3.5 vs Atlanta a pick I made here on site when most times I would buy to 4 which is a key number, and Atlanta gets a late field goal to win by 4, I lost but should of had the push.
All my picks are against the hottest teams or for the coldest teams, this is where all the value in the point spread lies. There are things to look for which signals a hot team is ready to go down or a cold team is ready to rise and it works fairly well. I bet I'll finish with a winning record by years end using this method.
This is also why one can't just watch games on tv and see who's hot and bet that hot team or bet against cold teams, which is what 99% of gamblers do and is why they fail. The bookmaker watched those same games, he knows the same thing you know, so he "jacks-up" the spread to compensate and in the long run over time those "extra points" he added are going to get you. Your teams will win but fail to cover just enough times to produce a losing record.
The last time I tried this on the site back in 2005 and got burnt, well as it turns out, 2005 is thought to be "alltime record season" for favorites covering the point spread. The sports book mangers in Vegas "to a man" can't remember a season in which the favorites covered at such a high rate.
When this happens the betting public (the amatuers)cleans up and the house and pro's get killed, which is what happened. But as these things generally go, they reverse themselves and did they ever. In 2006 the dogs came rolling back covering over 60% late into the season and are covering again this season. Had I posted my picks in 2006 instead of 2005, I would of won damn near everything in sight.
That's a unusual and rare season in 2005, unfortuntly for me I was on mostly dogs and got buried, not likely to happen in a normal season.
The article about that season appeared in Pro Football Weekly.
By Fooledagain1 on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 05:14 pm: Edit |
Games of the Week
Lion s +4 over Packers
Indy -11 over Falcons
Ravens +10 over Chargers
Watch out KC, the Raiders are coming to town and they're ready to roll some heads.
By Khun_mor on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:55 pm: Edit |
Watch out KC, the Raiders are coming to town and they're ready to roll some heads.
HaHaHaHa I want some of what you're smoking.
Agree with Indy
The other two bets IMO are losers.
By sampson on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 11:17 pm: Edit |
I will take:
Detroit +3.5
NYJ +14.5
ATL +12
I checked about 10 different houses and can't find any 4's on Detroit.
I have been having my worse year in about the last 12 or 13...season record is 18-16 and those are documented if anyone really wants to challenge me on my very mediocre claim..lol
By Solid808 on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 04:37 am: Edit |
I'll take New England -22 1/2!
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 08:29 am: Edit |
+4 on Lions is buying .5 pt.
By Khun_mor on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 01:12 pm: Edit |
Hey FA
How about those over rated Packers ?
I guess you should have bought more points. If GB had not gone into hibernation in the 4th quarter this would have been a blowout.
By sampson on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 09:46 am: Edit |
I had a Black Thursday...lol
going with Minny +7.5
and St Louis +3.5 both on buys if the hook is not available
When Green Bay hit that field goal to go ahead by 11, I thought I had a legit shot. Expected the prevent and of course they would have gone for do down 5....but Green Bay played it the way every team should(but most don't) and pressured the QB....that is the beauty of those dogs as they often score meaninless td's at the end to cover....thought the same may happen with ATL but their drive stalled short down 18...
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 09:31 am: Edit |
Gmes of The Week
Titans -3 over Houston
Panthers -3 over 49ers
Last Week ------- 1-2 ATS
Year to Date --- 7-7-1 ATS
In Other Games Year to Date --- 3-2 ATS
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:32 pm: Edit |
How good is the Vikings running game behind rookie sensation Adrian Peterson ???
Well, the Vikes ave per carry of 5.629 ranks no. 1 in the 41 year history of the Super Bowl Era, ahead of the previous no.1, 97 Lions and the amazing Barry Sanders, 5.512 ave per carry.
The Vikes rank no.3 alltime in NFL History, ranking no.1, the 63 Browns and the incomparable Jim Brown, 5.737.
Pretty impresive for sure.
Believe it or not, the Vikes defense ave per carry given-up of 2.99 yds ranks 4th in the SB Era.
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 07:16 pm: Edit |
Preseason Surprise Teams
Let's check-in with my preseason surprise teams with 12 games in the books.
We'll look at their record vs spread to see if they're playing above or below the expectations set up-on them by the bookmakers and betting public.
2 Teams that Failed to Make Playoffs Last Season in 2006
1. Jax -- 8-4 ATS - 4th best in the league
2. Denver -- 3-9 ATS - 2cd worst in league
2 Teams that finished with 6 wins or fewer last season in 2006
1. Arizona -- 7-4-1 ATS - 7th best in league
2. Minny -- 6-4-2 ATS - winning record
Not to shabby, 3 of 4 have winning records.
I was off on just 1 team.
My 2 teams with 6 wins or fewer last season are both in the playoff hunt and 1 is highly likely to get in.
Arizona has 3rd best record in the league vs teams with winning records, at 3-1, tied with Dallas. Pats 4-0, Pitts 3-0.
Minny has the single best rushing attack in the 41 year history of the SB Era, according to ave. per carry.
The Team That Was 10-6 in 2006 I said would Likely Take a Step Back This Season
NY Jets -- 3-9 SU -- 4-7-1 ATS - 24th best
Take a step back ?? You betcha !!
My Super Bowl Winner
San Diego -- 7-5 ATS - They're playing much better and are coming on, but not likely.
Cashed with 5 of my 6 teams.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 10:08 am: Edit |
Games of the Week
Detroit +11.5 over Dallas
49ers +9 over Vikes
Watch out Boys, Lions might just pull a rabbit out of the hat and get this game outright !!
Last Week -- 2-0 ats
Year to Date -- 9-7-1 ats
In Other Games, Atlanta might just put the Saints out of they're misery this weekend.
By sampson on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 09:36 pm: Edit |
I bet both of those, and even through in the Jets for a 1-2 day...I've noticed we have some of the same games, when I check your picks..
The Jets play hurt since they dominated...and their coach made terrible decisions down the stretch....I think they had 9 more first downs, and 50 more yards offense while outclocking the Browns in their loss.
By Fooledagain1 on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
Yea, Cleveland was lucky to cover, up by 2 they were running out the clock, then Jets can't tackle Lewis and he scores on 31 yd run.
Any thoughts on the coming playoffs ??
It looks like we could have the most dominate bye teams in history. They might finish the season something like 56-2 vs the rest of the league.
All 4 could win and cover they're opening game, which is rare. I think the team that may not cover, and could possibly lose would be Green Bay.
By sampson on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 01:22 pm: Edit |
Just worried about this week...to much can happen in the next month.
I believe that that last touchdown was given to them as this may sound stupid but without seeing the end of the game this is what I have heard:
Down 2 and no chance to get the ball down, they allowed Cleveland to score in hopes of scoring, getting an on-side kick and scoring again.
This in itself may make sense, but when you are at the 17 why kick a field goal on first down? sure they need two scores, but can they really argue that after a short field goal and 32 seconds they could recover a kick and make a long touchdown....seems a no-brainer to me to do it the other way.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:03 am: Edit |
Games of the Week
Atlanta +13 over NO
Carolina +8 over Seattle
Pitt -3 over Jax
Da Bears +11 over Vikes
In other Games
Brownies over Bills
KC bounce back over Tenn
How bout those Dolphins !!!!!!!!
Miami over Ravens
Miami's coming off it's largest back to back losses of the year, losing by 27 and 21, a combined 48 points.
All the experts are now saying Miami is going 0-16 after these 2 losses, if this team has any pride this is the spot they'll respond and bring some major intensity into this game.
I would look for the Dolphins to shove it up the experts asses and get the win.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 01:02 pm: Edit |
Miami grabs the lead 16-13, with 1:56 remaining, they might just do it.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
Hey Now, Miami does it, reams the experts.
By Porker on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 04:28 pm: Edit |
Great call on Atlanta. What a quality team you just pissed away your money on!
By Fooledagain1 on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 04:58 pm: Edit |
Well, 2 of my preseason surprise teams are now the talk of the town, the hottest things since sliced bread going into the final run for the postseason.
The experts are piling on they're bandwagons, some experts are called Jax the 2cd best team in the league, and damn near every expert is saying if the Vikes get in, they'll be a dangerous team come playoff time.
As is very common with the experts they overreact to a few good or bad games.
It will be interesting to see where these teams go from here after all these experts have jumped on they're bandwagons.
The Bears might just open "a can of whip-ass" on the Vikes tonight, and leave the experts with yet another ream job.
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 03:48 pm: Edit |
week 14
Games of the Week
1-1 ATS
Year to Date -- 10-8-1 ATS
In Other Games
0-1 ATS
Year to Date -- 3-3 ATS
Week 15
Games of the Week
2-2 ATS
Year to Date -- 12-10-1 ATS
In Other Games
2-1 ATS
Year to Date -- 5-4-1 ATS
By Fooledagain1 on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 03:57 pm: Edit |
Week 16
Games of the Week
Raiders +14 over Jax
Denver +9 over San Diego
In other Games
Indy rolls the Texans
Vikes get 1 step closer to postseason
Pitt has covered just 1 of past 6 games and is coming off they're largest loses in back 2 back games, 21, 7, combined 28 pts. They can't win on the road, just 2-4, Clevland's now breathing down they're necks, if this team has any balls now's the time they'll respond.
Look for Pitt to get the easy win and cover.
By Porker on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 04:13 pm: Edit |
Indy? INDY? You're actually gonna bet on the 2nd best team in the NFL? Have you imbibed too much egg nog?
BTW, you do realize that there's a strong possibility that Indy's going to play their bench warmers most of the game? Their record in weeks 16-17 the last 3+ years has been rather ugly.
By Fooledagain1 on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 06:04 am: Edit |
Play they're bench warmers ?? Nah, not Indy !!
2 Years ago Indy played they're bench warmers in final 2 games and then lost to Pitt in playoffs.
Lessons learned, you can get away with resting starters in the final game or part of final game but not final 2 games.
Same thing happened to Denver when they lost to Jax in 96 season's playoffs. They rested starters in final 2 games, not good.
Houton's off they're largest back 2 back wins of the season, they're hot.
By sampson on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 12:40 pm: Edit |
I bet Houston in the first game with Indy at plus 6.5 and won...
I will play Cincinatti this week as everyone and their brother is betting Cleveland, and the books are moving the line down. I bet Cleveland at +6 early this year(week 2) in this rivalry and find it amusing that they go from a 6 point road favorite to a home dog against the same team.
Will play San Francisco and Denver as well.
Happy Holidays to all.
By Fooledagain1 on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 08:36 am: Edit |
Games of the Week (16)
0-2 ATS
Year to Date --- 12-12-1 ATS
In Other Games
2-1 ATS
Year to Date --- 7-5-1 ATS
Not great, but considering I only went against the hottest teams or for the coldest teams, and still produced a winning record overall.