NY Gov Eliot Spitzer is a monger :-)

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By Downandup on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 12:29 pm:  Edit

Yep,

He got busted. A prostitution ring was broken last week and it turns out Spitzer was a client during a trip to Washington:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?hp

By Johnnyroc on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:25 pm:  Edit

he is also stepping down

By Stayawayjoe on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 02:31 pm:  Edit

More importantly, as it is with these guys, he is a HYPOCRITE, having prosecuted so-called prostitution rings in the past. He is also a FOOl, having paid $4300.

By Hemp on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 05:24 pm:  Edit

Besides the $ 4300 this is going to be the most expensive piece of ass in his life. Having said that after seeing his wife I see why his Little Spitzer wanted some action.

By I_am_sancho on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 06:09 pm:  Edit

The ironic part is that the only part he is likely to be in any legal trouble over, is......... paying a hooker $4300. If he had paid a reasonable amount of cash out of his pocket, the feds would have nothing to make a federal case out of. But seeing as how he paid $4300, he had to conceal a largish transaction which involved some tricky banking which would probably be about all the feds could make a case out of.

Although I'm not sure who is a bigger idiot. The governor for paying $4300? Or the Feds who probably spent/will spend half a million tax dollars investigating and prosecuting the guy for spending $4300 on a hooker.

By Catocony on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm:  Edit

And he could have gone where I go in DC and banged a Korean chick for $160 total, including a massage, sauna and a glass of water.

By Azguy on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 09:16 pm:  Edit

I hate to see a guy go down for something that should be legal in the first place, but I cant help myself - WHAT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!! I wonder what he got for his $4300? Hope it was one hell of a fuck. AZ

So is he going to get blasted as much as, say, Sen, Craig did?

By Hot4ass2 on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 12:55 am:  Edit

What does a $4300 whore look like? Enquiring minds want to know. How could the guy be so stupid. He lives just a few hours from Toronto and Quebec where he can monger to his hearts content for about $300 a pop, but instead he goes to Washington DC and becomes a victim of the puritan gestapo.

By Bendejo on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 04:57 am:  Edit

$4,300 ST or LT?
What a maroon! He should have dressed down, got a rental car and gone to some motel no-tell off the Jersey turnpike. But no! He has to go to one of the most high-profile hotels in DC, as if no one would recognize him. There's a certain Darwinism at work here, I'm surprised he made it this far.

By Laguy on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 06:18 am:  Edit

He is going to get blasted more than Craig. I just hope he doesn't try to excuse this thing by claiming he has a wide stance.

By Jjgettis on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 06:32 am:  Edit

He booked a girl for 4 hours, it appears and had her travel from NYC to Washington. She was from a high class agency. Put all of those facts together and $4300 is not out of sight. Now I agree it was a stupid amount to pay.

If you go to Theeroticreview.com they have reviews from this agency (although none any fresher than 2006) and you can see that people seem to pay $800 an hour for this high class stuff. There are pictures on smokinggun.com from the web site. Again this unfortunately reflective of a certain market. You can get laid for $300-$400 for a 9 level call-girl who performs in that city, but with all of the money involved in that town it is natural that a market develops at the higher level.

By Azguy on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 07:50 am:  Edit

Brazilian politicians are probably looking at this story and laughing their asses off.

By Richerich on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 01:06 pm:  Edit

4300 on a US garota. Incredible. It just goes to show you how out of touch these politicians are with reality and how repressed our society is..... WTF!!!!!!! When it comes to sex we are definitely not number 1 in the world. We might be tied for last with England. Hmmmm. It's wierd how the ones who are not getting laid are the ones who want to fight all the time. Food for thought.

By Azguy on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 06:36 pm:  Edit

I hope this story is blocked in Brasil. If not, a price increase may be on the way. They would not settle for just a washer and dryer. AZ

By Wombat88 on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 07:03 pm:  Edit

Mind you, $4300 for him may be like $430 for most of us (which I admit is still too damn much). If you're rich enough, that much money is pocket change.

I'd love to see how long I could stretch out that amount in Pattaya.

By Bendejo on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:46 pm:  Edit

Hey, where's all that "you get what you pay for" wisdom?

By Xenono on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 12:30 am:  Edit

It now appears that Spitzer was a desired barebacker and now spent over 80K US on prostitutes.

The prostitute's response to a request for bareback is even better. "...listen, dude, you really want the sex?"

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23362376-2,00.html

By Grownd_zero on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 05:55 am:  Edit

Ha, typical American bitch, she's getting paid $4300 and still wants to bitch and give attitude.

By Don Marco on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 06:10 am:  Edit

couple of corrections/comments:

1. The 4300 payment was a multiple hour (4) session depending on the report. I believe her hourly rate was around 1k/hr.


To Wombat's Point:
2. Assuming @ 1k per pop/hour and his 2006 tax returns, that amounts to a .0526% of his income per hour. Normalizing that and if your a working stiff making 80k/yr, that would equal apprx $42.08 on an equal GAI basis.

To Sancho's Point:
3. This is just another example of investigative dolts in control wasting our Money. Baseball, Spygate, Gov w/ a prostitute-- is this the shit I need to fund the gov. to investigate?

(Message edited by donmarco on March 12, 2008)

By Roadglide on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 10:34 pm:  Edit

That's ok, I just saw some photos of his 22yo call girl. I've seen and done much hotter chicas in Medellin, and Garotas in the Termas of Rio.

$4,300 is way much unless her crotch rotated, vibrated, and shrunk simultaneously, for a 4 hour ST.

RG.

By Xenono on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 11:42 pm:  Edit

Here are some pics of Miss Ashley.

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/03/12/spitzer_myspace/

She is an aspiring R&B singer, LOL. Someone will give her a contract now.

You can see her MySpace page here:

http://www.myspace.com/ninavenetta

And also listen to her music.

More pictures here:

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/stars/ashley-alexandra-dupre/

By Isawal on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 02:58 am:  Edit

$4300 for something that should cost $400, double billing and 4 hour overruns...the first time I saw the story I though he must work for the Department of Defence....but we should be nice, you never know he could be a lurker on the sight. I take that back no one on this sight would by stupid enough to pay $4300. Ok except Jag but he would never give cash, household appliances yes, cash no.

By Elimgarak on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 03:19 pm:  Edit

THIS IS A GREAT POST! I have been laughing for an hour over this, and we all know laughter is makes life sweet. Some added comments to these already good ones;

Richerich: "It's wierd how the ones who are not getting laid are the ones who want to fight all the time." (speaking of USA and UK)
One of the smartest posts I have seen on this site in a long time! Very poignant!

Isawal: In defense of JAG, he gets laid more than you.

It never ceases to amaze me how we have remained in the dark ages regarding sexual mores; I am speaking primarily of the USA. Most men, if they still have their balls intact after 45, still want to get laid, and get laid ALOT. Women you are married to for a long time develop different priorities; kids, community, projects. They want sex as well, but chances are if you are providing and supporting a loving home environment, which includes fucking your wife every now and then, and fucking her very well, then she'll probably be happy and won't be fucking the wet-back gardener. Then you can monger all you want descretely and be get your freak on when you need. This has been the way of the world for centuries. Where's the fucking mystery here?

What is really funny to contemplate are all the senators, congressmen (& women), police cheifs, governers et al of the US ruling and governing official populace now having their people scrambling to hide their wire transfers to the Emperior's Club Escort service, and others like it that cater to politicians and public officials with a ton of cash to spend. I am certain the #1 conversation happening at the nations capitol over the past few days, on cell phones, encrypted emails, and in unmonitered bathroon stalls was about HIDING THE HOOKER MONEY PAPER OR ELECTRONIC MONEY TRAIL! Way to fucking funny to think about.

Another interesting contemplation is who Spitzer pissed off. Why is he the currect target of the sexually repressed delusamenta?

As well, these types of international hooker rings only have wealthy clients, so paying $4300 is not so uncommon. what did the whore get out of it? Maybe $2500? Probably a bit less. Does anyone know what the agency cut is for standard escorts?

Living around the NY area, there are all sorts of private ads for IN-CALL girls who will "escort" you. You can meet them at hotels for a cheaper fee or at your office for a bit more. These girls work for themselves, and the going rate is around $500 per hour without an agency in NYC. $750 per hour if you use an agency. Many NYC big money businesses, law firms, et al, use these escort services for sex elaborate sex parties for their top end employees(I was invited to my friends big money hedge fund sex party two years ago...what a fucking blast!) I asked one of the girls who blew me how much the agency was paying her and she told me $3000 for the night......not too bad, but she did blow and fuck a lot of guys there. I am sure this firm payed the agency over $50,000 in escort fees that evening.

So don't be so shocked that Spitzer paid what he did. Actually, I believe considering all the facts that it was a pretty fair transaction as she traveled from NYC to DC.

Did he get laid bareback for that money? I hope so for all he is going through now, poor bastard. It is so easy to get laid bareback in Panama or Mexico if you build a business relationship with your chica over a short amount of time. I can get laid bareback 25 times in a week from a paid novia, including great
blow-jobs and a cooked meal or two, and give her around $500 that she is very happy to receive.

Oh well, I guess he did not think he had any enemies, which is why he kept fucking hookers at hotels he was widely visable at. Surprise surprise, you sorry bastard. I feel bad for him, as he is not only a victim of circumstance, but a scape-goat for a scandal-craving public, whom as Emerson said, "lives a life of silent desparation."

Elim

By Elimgarak on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 03:33 pm:  Edit

One more thing.............

By now we've all seen her photo..........

I mean, come on guys, she's alright, but I just got laid from a Columbiana at The Oasis here in Panama for a total of $80, and she was absolutely beautiful, smiling, gracious and funny. She makes Spitzer's $4300 whore look like Ugly Betty.

Considering the odds, who would ever want to be a fucking politician?

Elim

By Stayawayjoe on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 06:23 pm:  Edit

Just for the sake of accuracy, it was Thoreau who said "men lead lives of quiet desperation". Anyways, I thought the girl was very pretty. As long as she acceded to a BBBJ with a left eye shot(only because I shoot righty), I would have have thrown her 250 reais.

By Elimgarak on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:23 pm:  Edit

Thanks for the literary correction Stayawayjoe; would have sworn that was Emerson but that class was looooooooooonnnnnnnng ago for me. It sure sounds better the way you remember it.

Elim

By Catocony on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 01:10 pm:  Edit

I love how the Post interviewed a detective in DC and asked what do you get for different prices. He responded to the effect that at that price, "guys expect a clean girl, although STDs and HIV are rampant among all types of hookers, escorts and call girls."

I always love how HIV always enters the equation, next we'll probably here that the girl was actually trafficked and held against her will.

I tell you, with the 1100+ girls I've banged world-wide, many without a rubber, I've never so much as had a case of the crabs, much less contracted anything else. I guess my question is that if every hooker on this planet had HIV and at least three STDs, how come we're not dropping dead? Yeah, I know that Gonorrhea and Chlamydia are are always around, but that goes the same for picking up girls at your local bar as well.

By Elimgarak on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 02:01 pm:  Edit

Wow CAT! You have seen the light then?

I remember you were one of monkeys howling from the trees at my buddy Dr. Steve when he wrote the following a few years back;

Men's Health-: -Safe Sex: Is Eating Pussy Safe?

"Here is the deal on HIV. The entire HIV - AIDS connection is nothing but a HUGE SAC OF BULL SHIT PROPORTED BY THE CDC FOR PROFIT....there, now that the main point has been said, let me tell you without giving up too much of my anomitity that I know what I am talking about due to my lifetime research and work. The connections between HIV and AIDS has NEVER BEEN PROVEN BY ANY SCIENTIFIC STUDY. HIV is a simple retrovirus that has been around since the beginning of time and will be here long after we are gone. It does not destroy white blood cells. It certainly does NOT CAUSE AIDS."

and then you said..............

"It's always refreshing to see a screwball rant from a conspiracy theorist. Thanks for sharing,citizen, I'll pass it on to the Bilderberg Group for confirmation."

I'll tell Steve you have risen up from the ranks for the sleep walking. I too, fuck bare-back and receive BBBJ 90% of the time I fuck my chicas....not such a manly man like you with a score of 1100+. I sit pretty with my 375.

Of course they want to bring in HIV with the Spitzer BS. They have to keep the hype going where ever they can bud; Pharmaceuticals pay big bucks to the networks for ads, and the networks kiss their ass. its all pack of bull shit, and many people realize it.

I had what is called NGU (non-gonnoccocal urethritis) when I was in college, and think I got it from banging a bar-shank I used to date. A guy down the hall in the dorm got crabs. This was all in the US. I have never had a problem banging broads, whore or not, bareback over the past 15 years in all of central america, mexico, belize, argentina, or brasil, and I get laid alot more now then I did when I was in my 20's.

Oh well, hope this means something to you.

By Laguy on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 02:25 pm:  Edit

I fail to see how the example of someone who is HIV negative not having AIDS supports the completely idiotic nonsense spread around by some kooks to the effect that HIV does not cause AIDS. But I suppose if some believe suicide bombings get you to heaven where you can do 72 virgins, there is no limit to some people's ignorance and lack of critical thinking.

By Elimgarak on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 02:31 pm:  Edit

Laguy: Idiots and kooks eh; like, physicians and Phd. microbiologists with a lot more knowledge than you?
another excerpt from that link: By Innocent:

"Haven't posted in ages as I've been "retired" for some time now.

I have been involved in AIDS/HIV treatment and research here in San Diego at the Owen Clinic at UCSD for 14 years.

What Stevepenpan is saying is understood as true by many of the staff physicians. It is never spoken of in clinic or on campus.

It would jeapardize the job of anyone who even hints that AIDS can be present without HIV infection.

Although we all know it's true and documented.

I am not prepared to present footnoted research, although there are reams of it"

By Laguy on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 04:20 pm:  Edit

I still fail to see how the example of someone who is HIV negative not having AIDS supports that HIV does not cause AIDS. But then again I at least try to apply at least some measure of logic and realism to these things, which may be the problem.

By Catocony on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 05:18 pm:  Edit

HIV causes AIDS. Millions have HIV. Not all prostitutes have HIV, which is my point. Every story in the press about prostitution has to bring up at least one of three falsehoods: they're working as slaves, they are underage, or they have 3 STDs and HIV and you will die if you walk within a yard of them.

By Khun_mor on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

I still fail to see how the example of someone who is HIV negative not having AIDS supports that HIV does not cause AIDS.


I'm HIV negative and also do not have AIDS --- Coincidence ???? I think not.

The prosecution rests !!

By Copperfieldkid on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 06:05 pm:  Edit

I totally agree with the last three panelists!
negative=negative.........of course I am only a freelance gynocologist, so proceed with caution.

By Mitchc on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 07:47 pm:  Edit

Actually, after the news coverage last week, I'm pretty sure that they always mention all three (slavery, underage and HIV). It was very disappointing to watch all of that skewed coverage.

By Isawal on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 01:20 am:  Edit

Elimgarak Jag knows that all my posts about him are motivated by total envy.

I remember a few years back the American Army report on Aids in AC, Pattaya and a city in Japan which name escapes me. The original report was obviously intended to put the fear of G-d into G.Is but the result showed that the incidents of Aids was lower among working girls then the national average, go figure.

BTW if you want to read the full report stay at the penthouse in Pattaya they use to have a copy in each room.

By Gcl on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 02:42 am:  Edit

Reading this thread brought a tear to my eye. I miss Dr Steve's posts. What is his handle so I can re-read his stuff.

Dr Steve, are you out there? Can you comment?

By Laguy on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 05:19 am:  Edit

There is a rumor, credible I would think, that Dr. Steve and his followers migrated to Jonestown and injected themselves with HIV tainted blood, to prove a point. They haven't been heard from since.

By Elimgarak on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 06:12 am:  Edit

You guys certainly have the right to believe what you will. Your beliefs will condense to their own consequences, and if you are happy agreeing that the emperor is wearing fine clothes, despite the evidence, so be it. This is what most people do anyway, like Laguy supporting their positions with sarcasm, and preferring blinders over good vision becasue they cannot handle the truth. A piece of why the world is as fucked up as it is right now. As well, you can guess that a hobbyist keen to alternative thought may get bored with posting here; such is the case with Dr. Steve, and me as well for the most part.

There really has not been much useful info on this board in a long time, but the Spitzer thing brought about some interesting repartee, so thanks for that.

Getting this thread back to Spitzer now, does anyone have a clue of what he will do next? Maybe open up a local law office and solicit PI clients?

By Laguy on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:22 am:  Edit

Yeah, it would just be devastating to me to learn that AIDS is not caused by HIV. My whole self-image and existence as a human being would be shattered. I don't know how I would handle such a discovery should a non-crackpot scientist or doctor who understands the scientific method actually present some credible support for it. But I haven't had to face such a discovery reported by anyone with a modicum of credibility, so fortunately my self-image and ego are intact.

But Elimgarak, as a public service why don't you go ahead and inject yourself with some HIV infected blood and report back to us how things are going in 10 to 15 years, or, at least, have a surrogate around to do so. Sort of put your money where your mouth is. In the meantime, since there has not, according to you, been much useful information on the board in a long time, perhaps you should think about taking a long sabbatical.

Incidentally, my sarcasm and/or rage over Elimgarak's posts stems from the fact he is not only disseminating crackpot information, but crackpot information that potentially could kill people. It is one thing to believe the chance of becoming HIV positive from heterosexual sex is extremely low (albeit not zero), and make an educated decision about whether to take the risk or not. But suggesting someone should take the risk of contracting HIV on the false grounds it does not cause AIDS is disgraceful and those who spread such irresponsible nonsense should be ashamed of themselves.

By Isawal on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:56 am:  Edit

Laguy as a history buff you should check out
http://www.wondersmith.com/heroes/index.htm tell me what you think

By Khun_mor on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 04:15 pm:  Edit

Getting this thread back to Spitzer now, does anyone have a clue of what he will do next? Maybe open up a local law office and solicit PI clients?


Depends on whether he gets charged and convicted of a misdemeanor, felony or nada.
As I understand a felony conviction disbars him . Is that correct all you law types ??

By Merlin on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 07:08 pm:  Edit

Interesting Thread. My only thought is that w/ Puritanicals having their way, dudes like Kennedy, Roosevelt, etc. would have been toast.

KM, politically, Spitzer is obviously a Superfund Cleanup project now. For disbarment, I believe the standard is conviction for "moral turpitude" crime (dishonesty, etc). Spitzer will likely resign before he gets disbarred (The ole' Nixon manuever).

Spitzer is likely in more deep doodoo b/c of the funny money transactions with a possible MANN ACT Felony violation (century old law about not transporting a whore across state lines). Spitzer will plea bargain, do community service at a convent. Spitzers' brainless misstep ranks up there with that pastor who used personal checks to pay for "sexual favors".

By Newtohobby on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 08:20 pm:  Edit

His wife is still with him. Interesting.

What would happen if Spitzer and his wife were to join in the response that "prostitution should be legal"

Think about it. We've had all sorts of scandalous scoietal changes in the past 40 years:

60's - the sexual revolution + civil rights
70's - cross dressers & swingers 'came out'
80's - porn came into the mainstream
90's - gays came out and demanded their rights
00's - Spitzer grew a backbone and said 'so what?'

I guarandamntee that this country could be swayed, but not until guys like Spitzer et al stand up for their rights.

Take Canada for example. Arguably the country which most closely resembles the USofA, and they legalized incall escorts.

The time is right. We just need someone with a big set of nuts to be our Martin Luther King.

Respectfully I remain
NewToHobby

By Erip on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 08:28 pm:  Edit

Generally first offense for a "john" is a misdemeanor - depends on the jurisdiction. I'm not sure where Spitzer's case would be prosecuted - NY or DC. I would think both charge a misdemeanor.

If he is prosecuted in federal court for the banking or Mann Act allegations, it will be a pure partisan witchhunt (though I'm fine with him getting hit on the prostitution charge given the hypocrisy factor). The Mann Act has probably not been applied for more then a generation when the girl is a consenting adult, and the bank related stuff has absolutely no nexus to why those banking laws were passed - i.e. to catch money launderers and such. If it was all his money, all he should have to be concerned with is the prostitution charge unless Bush's cronies and his Wall Street enemies want to get in a few licks out of pure vengeance.

As for the NY State Bar - he'll be fine. As in California, the NY Bar is enlightened enough so as not to treat prostitution as a crime of moral turpitude. He'll receive less then a slap on the wrist and soon be hired for more money then ARod earns by any number of superpower lawfirms.

I have a friend who is an ex-callgirl in L.A. She is now a practicing attorney - yeah, actually stripped and fucked her way through college and lawschool. But she was a VERY happy hooker and for whatever the psychological phenomena involved, really misses it. A couple of years ago she was just overcome with the need to revisit her past - and so posted an ad on Craig's List - she would be back in action for one weekend only and would take no more then 1 appointment for each night and that was it. Her Saturday appointment turned out to be an undercover - unfuckingbelievable! She pleaded to a misdemeanor (which in Cali is purged from your record with no further convictions), and the State Bar just yawned - no interruption in the legal career. Expect the same for Spitzer.

By Merlin on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 08:58 pm:  Edit

Erip, good points and it'll be interesting how it plays out. Spitzer did make a shitload of rich and powerful enemies while on his crusades and he's now as high profile as they come.

By Murasaki on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 10:03 pm:  Edit

There really has not been much useful info on this board in a long time, but the Spitzer thing brought about some interesting repartee, so thanks for that.

Oh, sorry about that. Seems we all failed you. Especially in light of all the valuable content you have contributed.

By Branquinho on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:36 am:  Edit

As well, you can guess that a hobbyist keen to alternative thought may get bored with posting here; such is the case with Dr. Steve, and me as well for the most part.

I think there's a typo here. You meant alternative to thought, didn't you?

By Elimgarak on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 03:39 pm:  Edit

LAGUY - information is only dangerous if you don't understand what you are talking about, and clearly you do not. Take some time to read all the facts before you crusade.

I don't think Spitzer will be dis-barred on this one; It will most likely go away in a month or so with some heavy restitution, and life will go on at the Spitzer home....it is doubtful he and his wife are all that "close" anyway.

Anyone see that movie Bullworth with Warren Beaty and Hale Berry? A classic political satire. He is a senator and his wife only shows up for the photos whilst she is living with and banging some other dude.

By Elimgarak on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 03:41 pm:  Edit

Kind of like Hilary and Bill........like she's not a fucking lesbo?

By Laguy on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 05:29 pm:  Edit

Anyone else in favor of giving IQ tests to screen pathetic losers from the board?

By Johnnyroc on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:09 pm:  Edit

so, fuck spitzer. he's a sucker anyway! lets se how the blind guy will do. damn, Patterson (the new gov)wouldn't know a hot garota from a crack ho.

By Isawal on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:47 am:  Edit

Laguy
Now there is an idea that gets my vote!

By Branquinho on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:35 pm:  Edit

Elimgarak and a couple of crackpot African leaders are the last people in the world not to accept the FACT that AIDS is CAUSED by HIV.

He and "Dr. Steve," both charter members of the Flat Earth Society (Motto: Copernicus Schmernicus, we are the center of the universe), are impervious to data. The fact that a dozen or so crackpots continue to beat the "HIV does not cause AIDS" drum is all the evidence they need, despite the fact that tens of thousands of reputable scientists disagree, including every Nobel laureate who has addressed the issue. I have no doubts that Elimgarak and "Dr. Steve" are smarter by far than those Nobel-winning scientists.

By Laguy on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 01:23 pm:  Edit

Branquinho: You fail to consider the Nobel laureates all agree with Elimgarak and Dr. Steve but are afraid of the consequences should they dare speak or even hint at the truth. Their Nobel prizes would be revoked; they would never again get a grant; and they would be banned from employment at academic institutions, medical schools, and hospitals. So they are relegated to whispering the truth to each other, hoping no one finds out since if anyone did they would lose their livelihoods and would subsequently be lucky to get jobs as dog catchers.

By Elimgarak on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:05 pm:  Edit

Laguy - from your ongoing sarcastic rable, as well as inability to let this go, I can tell you probably had a difficult time getting laid in HS.
Lighen up dude.

By Laguy on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:57 pm:  Edit

Another example of Elimgarak's profound lack of ability to reach rational conclusions from facts.

By Elimgarak on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 03:21 pm:  Edit

Laguy - thanks for the LOL! You MUST be a lawyer!

By Pussyboy on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 07:23 pm:  Edit

Of the $4300 Spitzer paid for a night, $300 was for the girl, and $4000 was for the agency to keep their mouth shot. Eliot made a mistake not realizing that FBI bosses are also on the client list of such agencies.

Let this be a lesson to the other clients on the list.

By Laguy on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 08:07 pm:  Edit

Pussyboy,

Once again you've outdone yourself.

By Majormajor on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 08:22 pm:  Edit

So what is Mr Spitzer's status now?

MM

By Jonesie on Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 10:36 pm:  Edit

If you took $4300 to Medellin, you'd never see your dick again...

By Laguy on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 03:29 am:  Edit

Given the look on his wife's face at that press conference he held, something tells me Spitzer may never see his dick again either. No need to go to Medellin for that.

By Copperfieldkid on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 06:56 am:  Edit

I believe Lorena Bobbitt runs a culinary school for bitter and alienated wives, perhaps she is a graduate!

By Pussyboy on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 05:00 pm:  Edit

There is one simple reason why prostitution will never be easily legalized in this country and that is, the FBI and the cops are making a fortune on it only so long that it remains illegal and overpriced. Same with recreational drugs.

By Laguy on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 07:30 pm:  Edit

What about the Trilateral Commission and the black helicopters?

By Azguy on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:13 pm:  Edit

Laguy, you have an excellent point there. Pussyboy, can you elaborate?

By Catocony on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 06:25 am:  Edit

LAguy, you know you're not supposed to talk about the Bilderberg Group.

By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 07:13 am:  Edit

Guys! Stop discussing these issues on a public forum. Do you want the black helicopters to swoop in and carry us all away to the secret torture chambers in...well, you know where. Way to go, Pussyboy. You've put us all in jeopardy now!

By Copperfieldkid on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:49 am:  Edit

Oh come on, you know I love the smell of fresh pussy in the morning, and one of our favorite games is Pin The Tail on the FBI.

By Pussyboy on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 05:34 pm:  Edit

I have been to countless of apartments in Manhattan. They all pay the police regularly in order to be left alone. A few years ago a video was shown on local TV in NYC featuring a fat cop as he was about to get a free session in exchange for looking the other way.

Mr. Spitzer's agency was not the only one on the FBI radar. They are all on the radar. Only individual pros get ignored because they are just too much work and too little reward.

I know some of you believe that our government is beyond corruption and that our public officials and other government people are like the saints of the Middle Ages. People like these should be oppressed, taxed 90% or more and treated like slaves. Our government treats you as you deserve to be treated.

By Back12draft on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 10:43 pm:  Edit

I have been to countless of apartments in Manhattan. They all pay the police regularly in order to be left alone.

Umm, as a client or an employee?

By Laguy on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 04:30 am:  Edit

>>I know some of you believe that our government is beyond corruption and that our public officials and other government people are like the saints of the Middle Ages.<<

Pussyboy: You know about as much about our beliefs as you know about Rio! LOL

By Elimgarak on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 08:55 pm:  Edit

Pussyboy -
Don't try to educate these losers! Just laugh at them.........

The fewer posts you have on this board the more of a life you actually have.

Elim

By Laguy on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 04:43 am:  Edit

>>The fewer posts you have on this board the more of a life you actually have.<<

Then Elim, why don't you do us all a favor and follow your own advice, stop posting, and get a life.

By Copperfieldkid on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 05:13 pm:  Edit

"The fewer posts you have on this board the more of a life you actually have."

I would disagree strongly with your statement. Just look at several of our contributors/members that have very high numbers of posts, all of which have enriched this board.
Catocony, Khun Mor, Bwana Dick, Laguy, etc. These individuals not only have well respected jobs, enriched personal lives, but also find time to share ideas, viewpoints and valueable information to all of us.
CFK

By Azguy on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 10:16 pm:  Edit

Yeah, but what about the board whore? and I think we all know who I am talking about.

By Copperfieldkid on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 07:52 am:  Edit

Azguy,
I have two words for you: writer error.........

By Cobra887 on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 05:37 am:  Edit

-My Image-elliot

By Copperfieldkid on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 08:06 am:  Edit

For Gov Eliot Spitzer's sins he should be banished to hell....the Club Hombre Forum! -My Image-

By Majormajor on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 08:48 am:  Edit

So what ever happened to the girl he was with?

MM

By Copperfieldkid on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 10:06 am:  Edit

MM,

Fucking hopefully! I think she's become an urban legend. Spitzer's new slogan should be:
I have seen a vagina, and it was expensive.

CFK

By Laguy on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 10:26 am:  Edit

It would appear Spitzer ignored the sage advice of Surgeon Sage railing against the evils of prostitution:

Surgeon Sage

By Copperfieldkid on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 09:09 am:  Edit

Would you pay $1000/hr for her?

Spitzer's girl: Ashley Alexander Dupre


-My Image--My Image-

(Message edited by copperfieldkid on April 19, 2009)

(Message edited by copperfieldkid on April 19, 2009)

By Catocony on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 01:17 pm:  Edit

I wouldn't spend that to spend an hour with anyone, but it would be a better deal than an apartment.

By Laguy on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 01:28 pm:  Edit

CFK: I'm beginning to think the reason Cat is always referring to the apartment, is he is jealous you didn't buy him one.

By the way, I wouldn't mind an apartment in Rio. If I make your life miserable enough, will you buy me one?

By Bwana_dik on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 04:46 pm:  Edit

Holy shit! She looks just like my secretary in NYC! CFK, if you buy me an apartment I'll introduce you to her. After the introductions, you're on your own, and her husband is a former player for the NY Jets.

By Copperfieldkid on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 05:26 pm:  Edit

Three fucking requests for an apartment.....I just might buy one and hold a lottery, should pay for itself with a great write-off. At this juncture Bwana's is the best offer. How about all you others?

By Laguy on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 06:00 pm:  Edit

CFK,

How about if I promise never to again negotiate on your behalf with a Brasileira in a Peru nightclub who wants three times the going rate, and then walks away when I say she is asking for too much? You looked heartbroken that I denied you the opportunity to massively overpay.

If you agree to reward me appropriately, I'll even let you buy her an apartment next time.

As for me, I only want a one-bedroom, so PLEASE pick me.

By Copperfieldkid on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 08:04 pm:  Edit

Laguy,

you do have a good argument. I was disappointed, she was very attractive, blond, and looked similar to the ex........I was going weak until you screwed it up and saved the day. -My Image-

By Cobra887 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 05:39 pm:  Edit

Some nice tramp stamps and major surgery

-My Image-spitzer
-My Image-spitzerho

By Laguy on Monday, May 17, 2010 - 01:31 pm:  Edit

So I just turned on MSNBC for my daily dose of unbiased news, and who do I see guest hosting the Dylan Ratigan Show? Eliot Spitzer!!

I'm rather surprised, particularly given that MSNBC sometimes suffers from the same affliction other ideological media suffer from (whether right- or left-wing): holier than thou prosthesizing about the evils of prostitution, or, at least expressing indignation about anyone who would partake.

I'm not quite sure what accounts for Spitzer's quick recovery into the mainstream, although I suspect he has benefited from the shenanigans on Wall Street, which he was one of the first to go after. Perhaps MSNBC grudgingly concluded the near-collapse of our economy brought about by Wall Street excesses and illegalities may be a tad worse than seeing a prostitute!


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