There is No Honor Among Thieves or Mongers
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By Ezy on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 05:23 am: Edit |
BS...
Great posts...though I did not like the part about how having shed our fantasies, we move on until "kaboom,...we start all over again." I don't want to ever experience the pain I felt over this situation.It will be a while before I flirt with breaking the 3x's rule...to avoid a reoccurance....
Nice idea, this "amizade colorida" o "estamous bien"....but I have not figured out how to make it work....sounds good intellectually....but I don't seem wired to make it work at a personal level.
Bonvvnt...El Padron...describes me perfectly...part of the fantasy I suppose....
By Ldvee on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 08:07 am: Edit |
Wish I had more time to write about this and also wish my thoughts were better crystallized but I have a hard time with this fantasy concept that often comes up with hooker relationships. To me the fantasy/reality debate occurs in all my endevours. Maybe it's conspicuous in hooker relationships and subtle elsewhere, but it's everywhere.
I'm beginning to adopt the attitude that my whole life is fantastic and I'm just going to enjoy it. I tend to see the same chica over and over again and get to know her very well. But I always come out with the line "soy un soltero, siempre" early on at the appropriate time. More as a reminder for myself than anything else.
By Badseed on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 11:39 am: Edit |
Ezy:
Hey, how's it hangin? ;-)
As for fantasies being recurring - KABOOM - I really mean with everything in life, not just chicks and not just relationships. Kind of like what Ldvee wrote - fantasy/reality occurs in all endeavours. Relationship headgames are nothing compared to my own business-money mindfucks that I play with myself (and any sucker willing to listen... would you like to buy a nice bridge in Brooklyn?) The trick is to recognize them - the fantasies, live with them, harness their power (after all, every great accomplishment started with a DREAM), and avoid the pitfalls. Again, Ldvee has the right idea - as do the Hindus - all is Maya... illusion. The trick is controlling the illusion - be the player, don't get played! Easier said than done, but each time you fall off the horse (like you did with your favorita) you learn how not to do it again. You won't have a "re-occurence" as long as you remember the PAIN - they don't call it "The School of Hard Knocks" for nothing!
As for how to make "amizade colorida' work, it's simple. Be upfront about it, do exactly what Ldvee does, tell 'em where the line is from day one. Repeat it as neccessary, Every time you're telling them, you're telling yourself too. "Soy SOlteiro, siempre" - I'm forever single. If the dread "L" word comes up (I looooove you), in her mouth or yours, CUT 'EM LOOSE! There's plenty more fish in the sea. Be ruthless. We're pals, this is fun, but we WILL NOT CROSS THIS LINE. If they can't deal with it, cut 'em loose. If you can't deal with it, have a beer, take a deep breath, go to a titty bar for an afternoon (always good to help you relearn the fact that people will do anything for a buck), and then MOVE ON.
One thing that really helps is to make sure that the girl in your "colorida" relationship has as much motivation to keep it real as you do. Case in point, my latest little adventure is engaged, and I'm married. We're both very upfront that our time together is our "vacation" from the rest of our life - no more, no less. Yeah, it's playing with fire, but in this case, she's got as much to lose as I do if anyone crosses the line. Define the rules, stick to them! and to thine own self be true... boy scout bullshit philosophy, but it works.
OK, I'm getting too damn preachy, let's all get back to chasing pussy!
BS
amizade colorida, a universal concept for all those true to the game!
In the states, in my world we call it a "booty call". Call it what you want. A rose by any other name..... !
In all honesty EZY you put fire and gas together and then became upset when there was an explosion!
DON'T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME!
By Ezy on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 01:46 pm: Edit |
Atomicdog....I got the message,a already!....17 other guys made the same point last week when this thread was active. Many used colorful analogies or metaphors, though the fire/gas/explosion thing is a first! smile....
I don't hate the game or any of the players...at least not any more.
Adelante, sin vueltas!