37 DAYS TO GO:

Haven't seen an IAS sighting in ages. He is probably underground trying to prevent his deserved transfer to a re-education camp.

If you watch the video accompanying this article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/bush-visits-iraq-for-fina_n_150832.html) you might ask, "Where is the Secret Service.?" The answer I am afraid is they now feel they have better things to do, like watch NFL football on their Slingboxes, or maybe take their dogs for a walk. I guess "that guy" is now truly on his own. I suspect the one sector of the economy that may see a revival during the countdown period is shoe manufacturers.

Although perhaps this clip has a bit too much fluff, to my eyes the shoe projectories are easier to see. Worth a look:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28224134#28224134

Laguy
Come on be reasonable the secret service say they will take a bullet for the President, but a Nike to the head can really hurt!

I saw the video clip the shoe almost hit George Junior smack between the eyes...missing his brain by three feet.

He might not be a very good president, but he has pretty quick reflexes for an old guy.

The only thing more shocking than Bush's reflexes is how slow the secret service was in getting their ass up. Hell, he coulda had a dozen holes in him before they covered the 5 feet.

Okay Isawal, I'll bite:

"the shoe almost hit George Junior smack between the eyes...missing his brain by three feet."

So, Carl Rove was giving Bush a blow job at the time?

I was going for Cheney, after all his first name is Dick...

32 DAYS TO GO:

And the Sarah Palin gift from McCain just keeps on giving. Poor Bristol Palin: her hypothetical mother-in-law to be has been arrested for what appear to be some serious drug charges, I'm betting having to do with manufacturing meth. And who could have predicted such a thing from some trailer trash in the meth capitol of Alaska?

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/628010.html

Now as much as I am looking forward to attending Bristol's post-baby wedding, somehow I don't expect an invitation. Not so much because I am not a close friend, but because the whole wedding thing was a cheap political ploy to begin with, and it ain't gonna happen (OTOH, there is no predicting the behavior of retards).

Well, that's it for today's Countdown to Communism segment. I'm thinking one of the upcoming segments may focus on Comrade Franken's razor-thin victory over recently-exposed-as-a-crook Coleman.

Anybody want to discuss Blagojevich? I didnt think so.

Blagojevich is an asshole and hopefully will be impeached as quickly as possible. I don't think there is any real debate about this. The only person who seems to be supporting him is his lawyer, which he is paid to do.

Is there anything else of consequence that needs to be said on the subject?

By the way, it looks like it wasn't meth, rather oxycontin that Bristol Palin's hypothetical mother-in-law was arrested for.

Ah, axycontin, the true drug of hillbillys and rednecks nationwide.

Yeah, I was probably giving the gal Sarah Palin and her clan were pallin' around with too much credit when I predicted the drug in question was meth.

Actually, I think there is a lot more to say about Blagojevich. I agree that he is an asshole, and perhaps he has abused his power as governor. But the reality is that he has not done anything wrong yet. He was intending to do some illegal things, but he has not yet carried it out. Instead, it is playing out in the press and public opinion.

Fitzpatrick in my view pulled the trigger too quickly. It is clear that if he waited, that Blagojevich would have done something illegal, and it would be an open and shut case to send him to the slammer.

I am worried that Blagojevich has some wiggle room where he can say, "Yea, I said some stupid things, but I might have changed my mind." No one is going to convict on bad intentions.

From what I have heard Fitzpatrick was forced to pull the trigger because a newspaper (or some related media outlet) got wind of the story and refused to continue withholding it for Fitzpatrick's benefit.

But although it would have been better if Fitzpatrick's investigation could have proceed unimpeded, we do not at this point know the full range of evidence Fitzpatrick has. He tends to be a careful prosecutor so I suspect he has a good case. As to Blago's pleas of innocence and his claim he would fight this to the end, that could very well be part of the plea bargain dance. One of the chips he has is that everyone wants him out of the governor's chair. He is apt to get a better plea bargain if he is still governor and can include leaving that position as part of the bargain.

And before AZguy gets too excited about the fact no one previously mentioned Blago here (presumably because he is a Democrat), it should be noted neither did anyone on CH (to my knowledge) make much of a deal about George Ryan, the former Republican Illinois governor, who started serving his 6 1/2 year prison term for corruption-related crimes about one year ago. Fair is fair, not liberal bias.

I just hope no one unearths from the archives some rant against Ryan made by yours truly but totally forgotten!

Here ya go AZguy. My kind of fair and balanced reporting (although the website address is a bit misleading as the article is more about Blago and vaseline)!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/19/nude-sarah-palin-artist-w_n_152321.html

BT, I think you are exactly right. I would think Fitzpatrick has much more on him than is out in the media right now. If not, it sounds like Blago does have some wiggle room.

I'll bet in Blago's mind he was just doing business as usual in Chicago politics. Or anywhere for that matter. Deals are cut all the time.

I am more concerned that he rolls over on a bunch of people and it gets to Obama. That is the last thing we need. Obama doesn't need any distractions right now.

Overall I like the direction Obama is headed. Sounds like he is getting more shit from the left than the right.

PS as far as Ryan goes, he is no different than 95% of all politicians which are fucking scumbags.

Laguy, getting your news from the Huffington Post? Now it all makes sense. That is just as bad as O'rielly. lol

The Huffingtonpost is a reliable source of news re nude paintings about Blago titled "The Cavity Search." Of course, that they covered this story is just another example of their extreme left-wing bias.

Obama is not going to get caught up in the Blago thing, at least not as a direct participant, as Obama has made a career of avoiding the fucker. Rahm Emmanuel, now that may be another story. We'll just have to wait and see.

Huffingtonpost - fair and balanced. we decide. got it.

Even if it gets on Rahm a little bit, it will probably get washed away over a little time. We do have a few other pressing matters.

Correct me if I am wrong, but there is nothing wrong with providing a list of acceptable candidates to the gov, right?

Here is a question for the left leaning guys here. Wouldn't you think the folks on the left would give Obama a pass, at least until his plate isn't so full? They gotta know he will take care of them in the long run. I guess a lot of pent up demand from the Bush years. Thoughts?

I agree there is nothing wrong with providing a list of acceptable candidates to the gov. My concern, which at this stage is not great, is that although Obama seemed to spend his pre-presidential career avoiding any entanglements with Blago, Rahm had a much closer relationship politically. Moreover, Rahm was more of a Chicago style political operator than was Obama. Putting this all together, there is some room for at least mild discomfort about whether there will be any damning revelations connecting Rahm to some of Blago's sleeze. I think there is probably nothing significant, but there is at least some small risk there is.

As to the guys on the left giving Obama a pass on all sorts of things (including the Rick Warren matter) that depends on whether you are talking about the pragmatic sort-of left (like LAguy) or the screaming indignant further left, aka the far-out left. Sometimes though it is hard to tell what is really going on with the politicians: for example, was Barney Franks really deeply pissed off about the Warren deal, or was he simply staking out a position to gain some political leverage with Obama on gay issues in the future? Or maybe these two things aligned to give rise to his deep criticism of having Warren give the invocation at the inauguration. But it is often hard to tell with the politicians, especially the ones who are good at their game.

Laguy, good point.

I don't understand the Warren issue and people being so upset. It is not like Warren is going to be the Secretary of Science, or Human Affairs. He is just going to give a speech at the inauguration. Am I missing something?

Although I am fairly "agnostic" on the Warren issue, the issue for gays is he has compared them to pervs and the like while at the same time is given a high-profile speaking position at the inauguration. Although a gross exaggeration, think of the reaction of Jews if Goebbels had been given a speaking position on the grounds Obama wanted to be "inclusive" of all views (and to make the analogy at least a bit more palatable, try to think of a Goebbels spouting hatred towards Jews but before the real killing had started).

I understand why gays are offended by the Warren thing but tend to believe Obama is letting Warren speak, in part, to provide cover when he adopts pro-gay policies (as in the outcry from the Christian right against Obama may be diminished given Obama's association with Warren). Thus there may be some shrewd political calculations at work here that will ultimately benefit gays. Of course this is just an hypothesis at this point.

Ok, so what minister would be acceptable to everyone? Probably no one, and it's a good move on Obama's part to 1)separate himself from the more liberal wing of the Democratic Party and 2)throw a small bone to the evangelicals. Warren is about as mainstream as it gets for preachers. Sure, Obama could have selected an Episcopalian or Lutheran, but that would probably be seen as too liberal.

An interesting piece by Melissa Etheridge re Warren:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-etheridge/the-choice-is-ours-now_b_152947.html.

Does make one ask whether perhaps Obama is onto something when he speaks of trying to find common ground, even on controversial and difficult issues. It wouldn't shock me if sometime in the future Warren's views on gays change substantially towards what is becoming the new consensus of "live and let live." If they do, his relationship with Obama, as well as others like Etheridge, could be a significant contributing factor.

The bible is ABSOLUTELY crystal clear on the issue, Leviticus 18:22. I'm SHOCKED that Obama chose a minister who preaches what it says the bible.

I personally think Christianity is a bunch of crap but it is a politically wise move by Obama. If the gay activist have a problem with it, they should be attacking Christianity itself since the religion is 100% anti-gay in the manifesto they base the whole thing on.

The bible is absolutely clear about a lot of ridiculous stuff. I guess the question is why so much focus on gays among contemporary preachers, often to the exclusion of other absolutely crystal clear pronouncements?

For example, (and given I'm not an expert, I have had to resort to internet research, which runs the risk of inaccuracies), the bible states "any man with damaged or missing genitals, as well as any man who doesn’t know the names of his ancestors to ten generations, cannot enter into religious congregations." (Deuteronomy 23:1-2) Where is Warren's rage about this issue? How come his church's website doesn't ban people with damaged genitals, or those who don't know the names of their ancestors to ten generations?

Under the law of Moses the penalty for adultery was death by stoning. (Deuteronomy 22:21 ff, John 8:4,5). Maybe Warren and his brothers need to buy rock quarries to have enough ammunition to accommodate the sinners in their churches.

If you have gotten this far without being compromised, how about Ephesians 5:5 that says: "No whoremonger, no unclean person hath an inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God."

In a way, I hate to rest my argument on a few examples taken from the internet (particularly given my caveat about internet research), but if these are not good ones, I'm sure there are hundreds of others that could be cited, many of which I suspect are even more entertaining than these.

My point is those who justify their gay-bashing on the grounds of "what it literally says in the bible" should then lead their lives according to all the ridiculous requirements contained therein, rather than just selecting those that support their predispositions towards bigotry and gay-bashing. Oh, and good luck with that.

(Message edited by LAguy on December 23, 2008)

Under the law of Moses, the penalty for adultery was death by stoning. But of course since those days, Jesus gave his own life on behalf of all of us adulterers and whoremongers so that we may have everlasting life. So these days Christians don't stone you for adultery any more. But I would still expect Warren or any other legitimate Christian pastor to condemn adulterers and whoremongers as sinful and wicked. It's simply what their religion says about us. I'm not out protesting Washington because some pastor said I live a sinful and wicked lifestyle.

The Deuteronomy 23:1-2 thing is weird. Theirs some crazy shit in the old testament. No doubt about that. Could be read as "if some dude was so wicked he had his dick cut off as punishment then he cant go in the temple?????" Who knows. In any case the Christians always have the blanket cover all. Jesus took the the punishment for your sins therefore, although normally we would have to kill you for your sinful life, we are letting you off with a warning..... but you are still evil.

I am myself a total atheist. Don't believe in god. (At least not for another day or so when I may convert to Islam again) But, if Obama is going to have a Christian pastor do the prayer thing...... and Christianity takes CLEAR positions on certain topics..... then it is silly to bitch because the Christian pastor espouses Christian dogma. If you want someone who preaches something other than Christian dogma, best get a non-Christian pastor. I'll volunteer to do the prayer for him and I have no problem whatsoever with homosexuals. Although I am anti marriage, gay or otherwise.

25 DAYS TO GO:

It seemed the story about the gal Sarah Palin was palin' around with and her multiple felony drug charges was going to fade to black. But now we find out the arrest was delayed until after the Secret Service stopped protecting her and/or conducting surveillance around her. Moreover, we now know Palin's hypothetical in-law is not only a hillbilly drug user, but a hillbilly drug dealer as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/26/bristol-palin-drug-arrest_n_153586.html (sorry AZguy for the Huffingtonpost link, but damnit, for some reason I just couldn't find the story on Fox News, LOL).

Also, one of the candidates for Republican National Committee head (who has been endorsed by Huckabee and Bill Frist) is circulating the song "Barack the Magic Negro." HAHAHAHA, boy is that funny! You just gotta love those mainstream Republicans. http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/rnc-candidate-distributes-controversial-obama-song-2008-12-26.html. Although I fear some out there will actually find it funny, here is a link to the song, which is without question objectionable and racist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ. Anyone want to argue otherwise?

In case anyone is wondering, as of last night I have converted completely back to Islam. Therefor I am very disappointed that brother Obama has chosen infidel Warren to do the inauguration invocation. Allah Akbar!!! Allah Akbar!!! Allah Akbar!!!

I believe one of the central tenets of Islam is not to post on heretic websites such as Club Hombre (and that goes doubly for the political threads).

So it was nice knowing you IAS and I wish you the best for the future even if we will be going our separate ways.

Merry whatever and may your mullah mamas give you great happiness and many BBBJs!

You need to change your name to I_am_Sulafat or something then.

That's ok, I understand IAS is also a good Republican and listens to Rush on AM radio. LOL

Good old Rush, the face of the modern Republican party.

From now on you can call me by my Moslem name. Islam_Bin_Sancho. In keeping with my Islamic faith I will no longer consort with prostitutes. However short term marriages,,,, where a small dowry is paid, followed by a divorce,,, after say,,, an hour or so, that should be OK. I just have to remember to say "I divorce you" three times after each session.

I have never liked Rush so you can't pin that guy on me. He is a pompous, irritating asshole. Ironically though for some strange reason the Mexicans around the office here have started listening to Rush's radio show every day. I have no idea what started that behavior. I had nothing to do with it.

As for Communists? I tried to keep an open mind but recently I flew across the Pacific in a commie-run China Southern 777 in coach. Oh the horror, oh the humanity!!!! After sitting 13 hours pinned in that fucked up plane I now have a deep seated hatred for Communists.

Speaking of Communists, Al Franken picked up four more votes this morning at the Minnesota whatchamacallit board meeting. He now has a virtually insurmountable 50-vote lead. Alright!!! (Isn't it just great when you can view live feeds of the board meetings while sitting in a hotel in Bangkok?)

Coleman's people don't seem happy. What I can't figure out though is why Coleman is trying so hard to go back to the Senate when one of the first things he will undoubtedly face is an ethics investigation that could very well result in his being censured or worse. If I were him, I would concede at the earliest opportunity. But then again since I'm not an asshole I guess I'm not him.

Moving to a more pressing matter: Islam Bin, I think you meant to refer to a reverse dowry. Unfortunately reverse dowrys are not allowed in Islam, but play a big part in the practice of Satanist cults, which by your recent actions it would appear you have renounced. So good luck getting those BBBJ's from your burka-wearing women. From what my Islamic brothers are telling me, it seems the portion of the burka that covers the face can double as a dental dam, so at least the members of your harem won't get any untoward diseases.

I HONEST TO GOD clicked on this link thinking it probably reported some new evidence on the benefits from a low-carb diet (fruit juice generally being extremely high carb). Imagine my surprise when up popped Islam_Bin_Sancho enthusiastically celebrating his recent conversion.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32311_Death_to_All_Juice

In reality I have nothing at all against juice. Some of my best friends are juice. I'm just sick and tired of juice using MY money and soiling MY good name in the world to advance their own version of holy jihad which has NOTHING whatsoever to do with me. Maintaining the racial purity of the fatherland of juice is a HUGE financial commitment for me vis-à-vis my country and half the world seems to hate me because the god of juice apparently said non juice should be ethnically cleansed from a few thousand square miles of otherwise worthless desert land. The whole thing is a bunch of moronic raciest crap that I wish I could somehow dissociate myself from. I wish the juice and anti juice could fight amongst their racist selves an leave me out of it. But if there is one thing Republicans and Democrats unconditionally and unanimously seem to agree on it is that juice has thee right to ethnically cleanse their patch of worthless desert land and no price is to high for us to pay towards ensuring the success of that endeavor.

Since IAS's post is a bit biased towards the view "the juice" are the ethnic cleansers in their neighborhood, I suggest reading the following to get some perspective on how things got to the present point. Contrary to what many believe, a majority of the "juice" in Israel are those (and their descendants) who left Arab or Islamic countries under conditions of extreme anti-semiticism including pogroms directed at "juice."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus

Unfortunately for the prospects for peace in the Middle East, the juice that were effectively and in some instances actually kicked out of the Arab and Islamic countries represent a majority of voters in Israel (at least among juice voters) and this has pushed the politics rightward, e.g., making it possible for the Likud to become a ruling party.

OTOH, this is not to say the Palestinians haven't gotten a raw deal as well. But if this mess is to get straightened out they have to stop electing leaders who are either some of the most corrupt people in the world (e.g., Arafat and his billion-dollar nest-egg) or most bent on bringing terror not only to Israel, but by natural extension to their own people (Hamas).

the bible states "any man with damaged or missing genitals ... cannot enter into religious congregations." (Deuteronomy 23:1-2)

Damn, they did not tell me about this at the vasectomy clinic.