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	01/06/19-21 archive	35		2001/06/21, 05:33 pm

Ya, but where does the surfboard come into play?

You don't wanna know Curious, you don't wanna know.

I have to agree with West re: roomers. I've had my share in the past, and I must say, it's much better living alone!

As for the other arguments, sounds like most are talking out of their asses!
I see NO reports listed, no articles, nothing. Only a "friend of a friend told me" or "I heard".

I want a bibliography!!!

P.S. where can I get a copy of the monkey porno tape?
Does anyone know if Coco Chimpussy is in it?

An open letter to all members:
Amigos, there is a cancer among us that is growing day by day. The eventual end will be that of all untreated cancers; death, the death of TJHombre.
Over the last few weeks this cancer has advocated sex with minors (since deleted thankfully), vandalism for the sake of revenge, berated Hombres for condomless sex (while as an admitted STD carrier confesses to continue this deadly practice himself), created a situtation in some mongers were picked up by the Mexican police (as he ducked out and left them in the fix he created),panhandled on this board, was asked to stop,and continued doing so in his very next post, continues an almost daily racist dialog that rivals that of any hate group in this country(against a people and culture that many if not most memebers of this board care dearly for and on a board almost entirely dedicated to a hobby that could not happen without that culture and people), has recently decided to use this forum for his own commercial endevers (charging mongers for his self proclaimed valuble information), constantly puts down the spending habits that probably fit 99% of the members of this board (This is absolutely no concern of his. The only true known facts about this cancer is that he pays ten to twenty dollars for ten to twenty dollar chicas and carries his own beer into the zona. He calls this valuble information. But this type information is most certainly not valuble, and miserness is most certainly not a virtue.) This list could go on forever.
Now I know that someone will jump up and holler if you don't like this cancer then don't read it. And in most cases that would be exactly how to handle it. But thats not the case here, posts such as his must be monitered. The lies that he post as facts must be countered.(And most of us knuw 99% of what he post are lies.) But these lies are going to lead us down a dangerous path. As an example: Someday, someone, who has read this board a few tmes is going to head for the zona for a good time. They are going to have a little too much to drink, get ripped off somewhere, and become angry about it. Then they will remember the westfaggo solution. They go on a little vandilism spree. After they are picked up(and after a beating possibly) and are asked why they did it, out it comes, that's what it says on TJHombre to do if you get scammed. Then the whole shit ball falls in TJH's lap. And the disclaimer that this is for entertainment won't cover this. Everyday people are being held resonsible for the contents of their sites. And since this cancer has been given his own spot on this site, it sure looks like some legitmacy is also given to his post as well. (I sorry TJH, but I think this was a grave mistake.)
The post of this cancer get more radical almost daily. They have to. We all know that he really only posts for the shock value (and for his own personal entertainment. That's kinda sick in its own way). And like shock TV, to continue to hold its audience, it has to become more and more extreme. That's what the future holds with this cancer, too. This will take up more and more of TJH's time. It is obvious that he closely moniters all his posts and spends some of his valuble time editing and deleting parts of his posts now.
I know that there are a few posters that worship the ground this cancer walks on.(I think this may be where he gets some of the free BBBJs he brags so much about). So blast away if you are one of his followers, it will help identify who cult members are. Others will probably note that I don't post much. I have only been to TJ once and it was so long ago that I would be completely lostther now. But I have been hobbying in Texas boarder towns since 1973, so I'm not new at this.(Mainly in Nuevo Laredo.) I can't post chica info because I have been exclusive with one lady for nearly six years. But I'm quite well known arond Boystown and help all the mongers there I can. And it is quite easy to do without resorting to lies and without spewing racial hatrid. And without endangering what is fast becoming the best board on our hobby I have ever had the pleasure to be apart of. If I can help any of you guys with NL, pleasefeel free to ask. And to all but one of you folks, good times.
Dear Hunter

Dear Hunter,
Thanks for the feedback. I'm always intrested in knowing what other mongers think. I'm glad you think my posts are real. Because they are. Like I said, my primary goal is to make sure the Americans are safe in the zona. Number to is to make sure they don't get taken by the gals. Number is how to handle a difficult situation.
All I need to know is that your reading my posts!

You won't post about whore's because you've been fucking one and only one whore for the past 6 years!

Is that what your doing? If not I may be able to help you. No offense, but for being in Nogales for 28 years you haven't learned much. You probobly don't go very often. There's a lot of guys like you. The key is practice in your mind how you'll handle the police and gready whores.

If you have been with one whore for 6 years. Then you may need to speak to Roger.

Remember, we're here to better ourselfs. Your taking the first steps...

Westfargo...

I think that anyone who thinks this cancer should be removed should get together in TJ, and discuss the issue in person with the cancer.

Someone set us up the bomb!

Explorer8949 & Diego,
I'm with you guys, however, the Dear_hunter doesn't know TJ plus he's from the Nogalas area. 6 years with one gal. I don't care if she's miss Universe. That's grose! Same shit for 6 YEARS! Mr. Hunter, please tell us, WHY? And we really don't want to hear this I LOVE HER SHIT. We want to know that she's Vicenty Fox's sister in law that owns that 2000 acher ranch in Guanato and she's got Mafia conections and she's giving you 5 - 20K a month to keep your month shout! O! and she's going to die any day know that you have power of attorney over her estate. Now that might be worth 6 years of the same old rotten pussy...

Westfargo...

hi westfargo

i finally did a dark skinned mexican indian type girl.

it was the best sex i have had in tj.
she is a regular girl - that works as a secretary and is married !!!

she is 24 and fucks like the world is ending!!!
if she wasnt married - just maybe i would..... ?
no i wouldnt but still - a great piece of ass !!
she is very clean and her pussy smelled nice and she even licked my asshole.

she is a classy type indian mexican and is very hot with a little body.
pussy was sooo good.
again another mexican girl that told me - no problem - no condom

but i wimped out again and put one on.

maybe after a few more times i will
but she told me she doesnt take the pill

i might use your suggestion and buy those spermacidal pads? - do they have any side affects on the girls or guys

when i had my p.r. girl we used these bullet type spermicidal thingies and they made my dick burn a little.

she really made my day today when she asked me my age and didnt beleive me and said you like 23.
yippy !!!!

take care westfargo

milkman

Dear Hunter,

Great post!
Know anything about the common cold?

BTW, I liked you're movie. Who played you - Christopher Walken or Dinero?

Hey Milkman,

Was money involved ??

hi

money is never involved when i take regular chicas out.

just a good time - movies , going out to eat
costs about a third of taking a girls out in san deigo - plus i never have been shut down yet !!!

this particular girl - had to be real carefull.
we just went out to eat and then did our thing.

like i said the best time i have had with a girl - too bad she has a man.

i told myself i am not gonna fall in love with a girl unless it is with a trophy .

so i am holding out until my paulina rubio comes knocking.

my ideal type of mexican girl varies from the ghetto tattoo girl to the blonde paulina wannabee to the darker skinned girls.

just as long as they have a good bod , good face and is hot in bed and have a good personality.

i have dated 2 trophies already in tj and broke up with both of them becuase the chemistry want there.

i dated just one girl that worked in the zona as a ficha girl in one of the smaller bars.
and never was about money - she bought me things and i bought her little sentimental thingys .
i was with her for 4 months and hung around her and her friends and 90 percent of these girls are fucked up in the head - most do some sort of drugs and for them it is hard to leave a lifestyle were they are worshipped by gringos and make between $ 400 to $ 1200. a week - some more, some less.

we parted not on bad terms or good but we still say high to each other.
she wanted a baby and marriage and i told her take it slow but she had other things going on in her life - so we just decided to break it off.

like i said before finding a girl in tj is pretty simple - 18 to 40 there are all there waiting for their prince charming to arrive.

i speak from experience
take care
milkman

Yeah, a lot of those ficha girls want to have a baby with their gringo boyfriends.

When they say that, it generally means that they are already pregnant.

Explorer8939,
That's true. And I for one give them a kid. I'm tired of looking at those mongeloid looking 3' tall really ugly men. Lets all breed them out of existance. "La Raza" I'm tired of their ugly Nazi racest shit. Lets start a "La Raza II" were the kids will be tall and good looking and smart...

I've had so many gals say they want a tall kid that's good looking and smart. Then they pull out pictures of kids that they've had in the past from Mexican guys. All the photo's look like a bunch of Wet Rats! God damn "Rat Kids"

Westfargo...

Explorer8939

you got me thinking last night.
so i went to check on my old chica and she wasnt pregnant .

did you get my questions on the other board about sinaloa ?

let me know i can post them here if you want
milkman

Some of us are whore-mongerers. Some of us, apparently, are hate-mongerers.

Fucking A you are sick WestFargo. Grow up LOSER. I can't believe people read your posts. It's like a Phil Hendrie act, but NOT FUNNY. Pretty pathetic dude. I'll skip the rest of your interaction here on this board (it isn't like I really read more than one line in to your previous posts anyway, they're so lame). See ya shithead!

76ers,
I've met so many guys like you. Your 5'1", look hispanic, 5" dick, etc. Guys like you weren't ment to breed or have sexual intercorse. You should keep out of the zona. It's obvious by your attidude the Mexican men and women have beat the shit out of you many times. Just go back to the city of Homo love. And leave the Mexicans and Mexico to the professional mongers. I'm in the AB all the time under the heater. If you got something to say to me, be a man and do it in person! I've met 100's of mongers and those of you that know me know I don't boast! I'm a straight shooter. I tell it like it is. I'm a very civel guy. But if I meet you and I find out your just a new IMMIGRANT that thinks he's all bad because he got his green card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm in the AB under the header, Tuesday, Thurday, and Sunday nights. Usually at about 9:00 or 10:00PM.

Westfargo...

Nothing like a thread called CONDOMLESS SEX to attract readers, hehe... Now, we were saying about sexo sin condon...
ag

Fargo,

My stomach is hurting from laughing so much. You make me proud to be a Fargoist. BTW I hung out with Roger for a few hours Sunday night...he didn't know about the run-in you had with the Mexican guys and the phone booth.

WESTFARGO !

you have my vote for the TIJUANA HALL OF FAME - all time tough guy award .

HERE is a person that has admitted to stealing from a follow monger - happily " because he deserved it "

admitted destruction of tj bars.

constantly bashes the country he visits often and people that occupy it .

has asked for money from fellow mongers on this board ( i thought that was a joke until he said he was serious)

TAKES NO SHIT FROM ANYBODY - which is very good
and calls their bluff !!!

i have never met him but from the people that have say he is exactly how he sounds on this board.

his posts can be funny to amazing to did he say really say that ???

when they have the Club Hombre Hall Of Fame - you will most certainly be mentioned in many categories.

if i know one thing - It is 95 percent of girls love tough guys that can handle themselves and fuck good.

you must be pretty popular with the women and get a lot of free pussy.

and West - if any of the above is untrue please feel free to correct me - it is all from memory.

i will see you on thursday - comida is on me !

milkman

Redondgo,
I was actually taking on the phone with Roger when it happened! I called him back the following night too. I'm suprised he didn't tell you that. That was a big one! Ask him about how we spend a few hours a week called the cops on Mexicans cars that park on San Ysidro Bl. in front of Red zones, fire hydrends, etc... We beleive it's our Americanly duty!

Milkman,
I don't like to brag about the pussy. But YES I get a lot of it, and I try to be romantic, specialy as I'm getting older. I'm looking more for quality then quantity. But, I have a big problem. When I CUM, I just sort of want the gal to leave. It's more of a reaction then anything else, I know it's not nice. If anybody has any sugustions, please tell me their secrets. Last night I was with my little Cynthia. I was on the phone with her of 1hr telling her how beautiful and sweet she is and how much I love her and I miss her. And I just got in my car and drove to her house. Within 1 minute I was fucking the shit out of her. I Came within 30 mintutes then I was out the door 15 minutes later. She just left a message on my machine crying and crying. YES I KNOW! I've got to work on that. Any sugustions?

And YES I do much more then you posted above. Again, I don't just turn into a raving lunatic and start destroying things. I just wait tell the waitors or someone trys to screw me. It's just by accident it only take 5 or 10 minutes in each club. What amazes me so much, is how fast they recover from the damages. I'm a Manufacturing consultant, I'm very effecent, I examin every piece of hardware before I destroy it. But they just replace it faster then I destroy it. I sort of admire them for that!

This is what the Jimmy the Wheasel said about all the guys in the mafia he took down. He said he never bumped anybody that didn't deserve it.

That's how I am in Mexico. I just even the score.

Westfargo...

westfargo,

you werent there on tuesday 7/31/01 , i was there starting at 7pm, on and off in between other bars, but usually in AB til around 5am in the morning. its been a while since i seen you or roger there and would like to catch up on whats new.

also westf, and dont take this the wrong way, but i think you've gotten a little more twisted, darker, and more sinister since i last seen you. you were actually a pretty cool guy to chill out w/ & kick back while drinking a couple of beers and shooting the breeze. i believe you when you say you'll take it on w/ anyone here. you'll probably beat up most of the folks on here in a physical fight, however, not everyone plays fair....

put me in the fargo camp too i guess, cuz i'd really hate to see anything bad happen to you bro. just dont invite trouble by challenging folks on here... there's some really fucked up folks in the world and not that i know of any on here personally, there still might be some lurking that might pull some shit w/ a knife or a gun, or what have you when you least expect it. its always good to have a healthy sense of paranoia. beers on me when we meet up again!

well, here's a quickie post for something actually related to the subject condomless sex.

last night was a weird night on 8/1/01 wed. AB was PACKED to the brim around midnite. I ended up going up w/ a skinny ex-CC chica who gave me one of the best bbbj's i've had. then in the heat of passion (for me anyway) , i slipped it in her w/out any sort of protection and was deep stroking it to her a few times before i realized what happened. i pointed this out to her, but she was ok w/ it, she kept grindin her hips against mine and just said saying "mas" , i started to get freaked out a bit, so put a condom on real quick and got back to it again. however, the sensation was simply NOT the same. the condom almost deadened the feeling in my dick. we go at it like this for about 10 mins while all the time i'm thinkin in my head, fuck, it felt so great doing it bareback. so i did something i should not have done... i decided to take the condom off and finish it off bareback. i figured i had already did it earlier by mistake so if i was gonna catch something, i probably did already. i might as well enjoy the full bareback experience.... of course, after i took the condom off, i didnt last more than 2 mins b4 i shot my load deep inside her. its been about a year since the breakup of my gf, and this is the 1st time i've gone bareback since then. i forgot what a complete difference there was in the feeling and sensation... you can feel her warmth, moisture, tightness that usually gets constrained by a condom.. it feels just so fucking wonderful!

alas, now i'm regretting it. i feel fine so far today. no itches, no bumps, no rashes. so good so far... i took some antibiotics too just in case.

now that i can think again w/ a clear mind, i'm hating myself for throwin my life away in a moment of lust like that. i know its easier to preach than practice, but i gotta say, the bareback experience is really nice, but not worth all the risk, the doubt, and the uncertainty that i'm going thru right now. i've scheduled myself for a checkup on monday, so hopefully i will be ok...... at this point i'm so afraid of what if? so disappointed at myself for having done such a foolish thing. i feel so hopeless and helpless not knowing anything!! can anyone relate?

Eclipse,

Join the club. I don't know if you had read some of the recent posts past couple of weeks or so but of course you really should be checked out. Kendricks and I were going through a similar situation back then details are unimportant.

Give it about 5 days to be able to culture for most STDs. Hiv can be detected immediately with a very expevsive PCR/RNA test that actually looks for particles of virus.

Unfortunately, antibodies are not detectable for three to six months.

I'm in the medical proffession, you are probably fine but cross your t's and dot the i's you'll sleep better especially if there's a wife or girl friend in the equation.

It's taken me two years to get the lesson that I will never have unprotected sex again.

Eclipse, I can relate. Ditto everything Innocent said.

Try getting some ultra-sensitive condoms, too (I like Durex). They allow a lot more sensation than the bullshit rubbers the hotels give you.

Kendricks,

I just got back from the zone and per your reccomendation brought along the Durex ultra sensitive condoms.

They were a nice suprise and really didn't feel like I was missing much. I guess they are about as close as you can feel to being bare back.

Excellent advice.

What is the law?! No bareback!
What is the law?!! No bare back!!
What is the law?!!! No bareback!!!

Now back to Monica's asshole, HEEHEEHEE

Hey Eclipse,
What is the first letter of the girls name if you don't mind saying. Or if you could email it to me it might really help me out. Thanks alot

Innocent,

I'm glad you enjoyed the Durex Ultrasensitive. I just hope you were thinking about me while you were using them. 8-D

You're right, you aren't missing much in the way of sensation by using those - definitely worth the peace of mind and reduced risk of catching something ugly.

Take care,

Kendricks

Kendricks,

"You were allways on my mind,
you were allways on, my, mind"... HAHAHA!!!

Adelito , it starts w/ a "P". i'm sure most everyone will figure out who she is now just from those clues given.

Kendricks&Innocent, thx for the tip on the Durex. I'm going down to Sav-On pharmacy to see if they sell them there. They usually have a larger selection than Walmart.

I found 'em at Rite Aid

Thanks Eclipse, I really appreciate that. Another good brand of condom is Trojan Shared Sensation. Also Kimonos are called microthin and are very good. I am definitely with you on the sensitivity thing. And those 2 work the best for me.

Just one note of caution. I've had a Durex ultrasensitive break on me, admittedly after a uh, long and vigorous workout (with a chica I felt was a bit risky...) So if you wanna use ultrasensitives, you might at least change out every so often... I'd also be really reluctant to use them for rear guard action.

Balam,

Thank's for the info. Butt you are reading my mind. I was thinking of butt fucking Betty CC
with one of these on. It's probably
better to use a Goodyear off road tread.LOL

Red writes "You make me proud to be a Fargoist"

Would you feel the same if his racist rants were directed at your ethnic group?

Good point ReyTJ, since I'm Pleidian I suppose I would get defensive if disparaging remarks were made about Pleides.

Serio...sure I can understand a lot of it is hard to digest, especially lately. But taken contextually it's like a caricature or Don Rickles routine.

Milkman writes "if i know one thing - It is 95 percent of girls love tough guys"

It's not just a girl thing. Guys do too. Based on your posts you're nothing like WF and yet here you are fawning all over him. You seem to get some kind of vicarious thrill reading about WF alleged exploits.

If I were you I wouldn't count on WF to watch your back. Didn't you read that post where he admitted hightailing out of La Valentina leaving two newbiew in the lurch and all because he didn't want to deal with a dispute over who was going to pay for a couple beers.

hi reytj

i have never met westfargo but know people who have.

westfargo is westfargo he is not like you or me - everyone is different acting and everyone plays the game the way they want to - there is no wrong way or right way - just as long as it brings results.

i do read some of his posts and posts about him

its kind of funny you posting that because i met a guy from this board last night and he is really kool and around my age and we had a great time and we talked about that very thing about westfargo.

i do plan to go up there soon.
but i will be going with one or 2 guys that i talk to from this board.

(fawning ) lol - well i dont go to bed and masturbate thinking of him.

he just seems like he knows how to play the game.

i am always looking for guys that have the same interests in chasing down free hot latina pussy.

the last time i paid for pussy was last year when i first moved here and didn't know about all these other clubs were the locals hang.

everybody has their reason for going to tj and the zona - i would never diss anybody and their fetish's - fantasies & fetishes cost money and the cheapest way to get your fuck on is tj.

some guys love the idea of girls that have sex a lot
- some guys want to fuck the hottest looking girls around

some like fucking girls twice their age and for the above you have it all at Adelitas.

some like younger girls 18 and so and you have la tropa , tropical and ficha bars.

some guys like to go to bambi's and the other tv bars and get their groove on with shemales

some just want the quick fuck and do up the SGs

thats all good and their is nothing wrong with any of the above.
and for me i like the chase , the game - it's like a new adventure for me every time i go to tj

i have cut down my time now at the ficha bars , i would go there to dance and make out with them in the booths and get the freebies
( now i just go to my regular ficha bar to relax after pulgas or another club)

i like a lot of different looks for mexican girls so i date lot - all different types from low class girls to higher educated girls

to the dark skinned mexicans to the paulina rubio wannabees !

i do not want to be tied down just to one girl.
i have always had long relationships with my girlfriends.

now i am free and having the best time ever !!

i moved 3,000 miles away from my family and friends and i make about 15k less than i did in boston and i have never been more happy in my life !!

i am still going to different clubs looking for that perfect club - las pulgas takes the flan for now - even though some of these smaller ones look good but they lack security and are off the beaten path.

i have gone to the teatro's ect.. i think you go there a lot right ?

but i want to stick around closer to rev and downtown

well take care reytj
i just wanted to give you a little more info on what i am about and some of my beliefs -

milkman

Eclipse,
Tuesday night I was in the "Once" bar and I can home early. Thursday night I made a guest appearance in the AB for about 10 minutes at 9:45PM.

Milkman,
You'll see, I'm like what people say. I'm just a nice guy that's trying to get pussy! Were all grown men. What else is there? The Comedor 64 doesn't quite do it for me anymore!!!

Reytj,
Again! If you have proper legal permission to be in the US. And didn't break the law to get that permission. ie(Come hear illigaly and break our laws and wait until some president thinks he needs the votes of your countrie men that have recently became American) Ronald Reagan, George bush Jr./Sr.

I dare you to go to Mexico and work and drive, without any papers. If you get caught by anybody! ANYBODY! No mercy! Jail, then $5000 then they release you and your kicked out. I saw an American get deported at the Casa De Ensuano in Acapulco. You will sit in Jail until you or your reletives pay $5000! And you can't come back to Mexico for 5 years too. We have the same law, but it's not inforced here. It's funny, illigals go to jail here to wait for a ruling from a judge about their legal status. If Mexico it's the other way around!

I'm a manufactuing consultant. I've worked in Mexico. I know why Mexicans cross the border! They are really bord at home when one of their paisanos calls on the phone and says, Get your ass over here! The cities are all Spanish speaking, lots of jobs, it's so easy to cross the border, once your in the US your scott free! You can work, drive, buy nice things! etc...
They have nice beautiful live's in Mexico and they come to the US to act big and send home extra money. I live in a 95% hispanic neaborhood
I always ask the neibors, what makes them like the US the best? You would think they would say, it's so clean, beautful, orderly, safe, strong, etc... But always say, They pause for a long while. Back at home there was jobs! Basicly, we had everthing in Mexico we have here! And we felt more at home there. But the first time I sent home some money to my mother, my mother started to cry. I was an instant seleberty. Everybody in my city knew my mother had a son that, MADE IT BIG! I'll say, it's more greed then wanting a new life, right. They all jump up and say, That's it! The family is everyting, and to make the family proud of you! That's what it's all about!

Everyday I write, write and write to my congressmen, secretaries or congress, house and ways committie, etc... I would love to see it against the law for any illgal alian to gain lawful residents or tourest visa if they had come the the US illigly.

I know may law men agrey with me. It's just not politically correct to uphold the US law when it comes to foreniers. An American can go to prison for 3 years for killing a chicken, but an alian for beating up a police office running in the middle of our free way, throughing rocks at cops cars, using fauls ID, stolen credit cars, will be released with 24hrs into the custody of INS. then deported with 72hrs. He be back over the border within 7 days. Don't laugh! That happens all the time! You haspanic mongers can get away with a lot of shit if you just pretend you didn't know any better and don't speak english. etc... You can print and spend your own money! And then when your caught you say, "no hablo English" I read an article 3 years ago that's how one the largest conterfiting rings in LA was caught! The guys actually running it where Illigal Mexican nationals. They said they were being held against their own will "As slaves" to print money. Or they would be killed! The cops actually let all of them go because they beleived their story. Of course the Fed's eventually found out what was going on the a few guys a year later were caught in New York doing the same thing. The cops in New York had actually released a few, until they called the Fed's in LA. And then we got them. Those are the hidden costs of letting criminals stay in our country!!!!



Westfargo...

One thing i would like to add is we think the price of food and goods are less expense in Mexico
than the USA and that is not true. Every thing costs more in supermarkets, appliance stores, good clothes, ect, in Mexico. They have no weekly sales or coupons,discounts like we have here. They can live alot better life her on six fifity per hour as long as they pack the apartment and keep down the rent.

Randall,
Your right! Ever go into a Dorians?, Sanborns, Kmart, or Walmart? Everything nomatter were in Mexico you are costs 20 - 30% more. Even food, except for the "Consoupos" government run stores. I've worked in Mexico, I the Taxes there are the reason everying is so expensive. Dollar adjusted the Mexican governemt receives twice as much revene as the US. But their infrestructure is only a small fraction of what the US's is. In 1999 the Mexican Government collected 289 billion US dollars. The US governemnt collect 1100 billion. The eanings of a tipical Mexican is 1/8 that of an American. So what's 289 billion x 8 / 1100, that means the Mexican government collected twice the monies as the US governmnet did. That's common in 3rd world and socialists countries. Finland and Norway's goverments are about the same. But they share the wealth. There called Socialists democries. It's works good in europe, the only problem is in Scandenavia there's a 100% tax on all second houses purchased. The Tax is due at escrow closing time. Of course all rich people have many houses there. Their company own the property. Latin America shares the American consertisiam view of, the people feed the governemt, the government doesn't feed the people. That's OK for Japan, US, and Canada were everybody is Educatated and there's lots of jobs. But for Developing nations and nations that live next to super power houses that only have slave labor to sell a Socialists Democrecy is the only way to go. ie(PRI) for 71 years tried to do it. Fidel Casto did it. Mexico really needs a structured liberal government like Norway's. Norway was voted as the government that has the least corruption in the whole world. Mexico was number 338, three from the last!!!!

Westfargo...

Who's last?

I have been caught in Mexico four times without papers and never seen the inside of a mexican jail yet so I guess I should count my lucky stars.

I have to believe it has to do with being straight forward with the authorities just like you should do here in the states.

I've been pulled over twice by the cops in Tijuana, once without my registration card, but both times without my drivers license, paid the fines for no license ($100 and $45) and both times was permitted to continue on my way.

I've flown to Mexico City without papers and even when immigration asked for them, I explained I had lost them and they let me continue.

I flew into Cabo and could not find my papers for immigration there, but they just warned me and let me go.

Westfargo, we finally agree on someting, mabey there is hope for the both of us.

WF said;

"Mexico really needs a structured liberal government like Norway's."

Aint gonna happen - the Mexican people CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. What other kind of government would you expect from a country where 99% of the people believe in spooks, gods, chupacabras, etc.?

"Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators the creator seeks -- those who write new values on new tablets. -- Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus spoke Zarathustra"

Diego that's a great quote! I'm going to dig more information about Friedrich Nietzshe. Interesting (to say the least).
Jarocho

This is a bitchin' Nietzsche site:

http://www.pitt.edu/~wbcurry/nietzsche.html

Kendricks

Thanks Kendricks!! :-)

Jarocho

Some people have called Nietzsche a NAZI, as the Third Reich hijacked and warped his philosophy.

But Nietzsche would have hated the NAZIS.

But he also wouldn't have had much patience for a populace that believes in spooks and gods.

This dude was WAY ahead of his time.

Jaroco,
For 1999 the most corrupt nations in the world were as follows.

340 - Rio Muni Africa
339 - Ghana Africa
338 - Mexico North America
337 - Ethiopia Africa
336 - Gabon Africa
335 - Rowanda Africa
334 - Burundi Africa
333 - Yemen Middle East
332 - Kazakhstan Middle East
331 - Haiti North America
330 - Burkina Africa
329 - Chad Africa
328 - Zambia Africa
327 - Turkmenistan Middle East
326 - Madagascar Africa

10 - United States North America
9 - Switzerland Europe
8 - Canada North America
7 - Amsterdam Europe
6 - Sweden Europe
5 - Belgum Europe
4 - Denmark Scand.
3 - Finland Scand.
2 - Vadacen Europe (Popes house)
1 - Norway Europe

According to the world bank org. That creats this list every year. The worst countries are not just the ones that the people have to pay bribes to get things done. A countries that have "Intrensic Corruption" as the world bank puts it. Have willingly and or openly partisipated in diliberate monitary actions that have caused the "World Bank" to denie credit or have made a debt due immidently. In other words, if you piss-off the world bank that put you at the bottom of the list. According to the world bank, Mexico had a 275 billion DOLLAR debt in 1993, 80 billion with the United States and 50 billion with the World Bank. Mexico defaulted on the 50 billion World Bank loan. And oppted to pay the United States on the 80 billion. As a result the United States in 1996 lent Mexico another 20 billion to pay intrest on the World Bank loan. Instead Mexico pay down the US loan. Go figure! At the end of 2001 the Mexican Government had a surplus of 35 billion because of the hight Oil prices that the United States buys. We buy 95% of their exported oil. Now the World Bank is suing Mexico for 130 billion, Intrest etc... The world Bank may win too! Why! Because much of that money Mexico used from the World Bank was used to drill new wells in the Gulf of Mexico and Tabasco. Both the US and World Bank loans were secure with the Oil Wells in the Gulf as collateral! In other words, the US has a very powerful military that's right around the corner if the need to come collect their new oil wells just incase Mexico couldn't pay back our 80 billion. The world Bank just has Lawyers! Just like Mexico, they again choose the wrong side!

Randall,
If I have to "HOPE" something for both of us. I hope we can find a couple of young virgins on Revolution that want a cooch full of CUM! That should be our "HOPE"

I hate NAZI shit. Their such pussies! I met 2 from this board too! They came up to Roger and I, and started to talk about weird bullshit. They sounded like Malcom X. I told them that! They were about 18 years old. They didn't know who Malcom X. was. I said he's a guy that hates everybody that's not Muslum, or his color and he especially hates JEWS! They said, that's David Duke! He's the greatest. So after the longest 10 minutes of them vomiting NAZI shit. One of them said, DUD, DUDDDD! I just scored with Jessica the blond over there. I got her down to $50 and a $10 tip. I fucked her so hard duuudddd. She screamed and I filled up the rubber this much. He showed me how much with his boney little hands. He said, WOW! Westfargo! I can't beleive it's you! You richest! Did I do good? I said, NO! You fucked up royally! You did EVERY FUCKING thing wrong! And quite frankly, We're imbarassed to even be seen with you. You should have seen the looks in their eye's. They almost started to cry. I said, if you've read and understood even one of my posts, you wouldn't even try to fuck a used up old stinky whore bag like her. After I got through with them. Then Roger and Jimmy got turns too. They were devistate!
For those of you who know me. TJ and mongering isn't a joke. You like is litterly put on the line and the reputation of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN too. I'm ashamed of many things about the US. But together we can change it, why? Although it's fucked up, I haven't found anything better. It's like my wife. She's getting old and fat. But, she lets me do anything I want including fuck nice 18 years olds and she doesn't say a word. If she perfect? NO! But until I find another gal that's better then her, I'll stick with her. The US is the same way.

Especially when your in a different country...

Westfargo...

"...she lets me do anything I want..."

WF, sounds like you could make a little bit of extra cash pimpin your wife......

Eclipse: Scary thought I've been living with for past several days since reading your post...I think we might have slept together last week (indirectly...unintentionally...OK...read: stupidly)... please e-mail me:

CAlivinlarge@hotmail.com