After I was in Rio for about 4 or 5 days I noticed what I thought was an infected cut near the base of my cock. It was a Sunday night and it was my 7th night in Rio and I was at Balcony, I went to take a piss and had a burning sensation while pissing. When I got back to the apartment I noticed that that cut was actually some kind of a sore and that there were three others at the base of my cock and groin. I had only done women at L'uomo and 4x4 so what ever it was, it had to be from one of those two places. I always use a condom for sex but not for getting BJs. That night (Sunday) when I went back to the apartment I took 2g of Zithromax.

On Monday afternoon, I spoke with a doctor friend in the U.S. and he recommended I also take 2g of Cipro, so I did. At this point in the trip I am really depressed as realize that my activities for this trip are over and I still have nine days left in Rio. I have vacation time that I have to use by the end of Dec or I loose the time so it is not like I can leave early and come back in a month or two. Also Jaguar suggested that I get it diagnosed and treated in Rio as to avoid the prying questions that I would be subjected to by the medical authorities back home.

On Tuesday Morning I still had the burning urination and the sores looked like they were the same or worse. A part of me was hoping that I would see a quick improvement so maybe I could salvage the last few days of my trip. I was telling Don what was going on and he said that he would find a Urologist for me to go to. He had this Brazilian guy (Roberto) in his office make an appointment for me with a Urologist. While this I going on Frogman shows up, Frogman knows I have a problem. We were hanging out the previous day. The Brazilian guy makes the appointment and tells Don who tells me that I have to be at the Urologist office for 2PM, gives me the address and sends me on my way, the office was one block away on Ave. Copacabana. Frogman offered to tag along so we walked over to the Doctors office.

Frogman: I walked with Rio_safado over to the doctor's office. He had the hang dog look of a condemned man. No matter what the doctor's verdict, there was no chance of salvaging this trip, he was taking off too soon. To make it worse he had another eight days left to go, so all he could do is sit around and look at the eye candy.

The office was on the second floor of an office building. As we walked up the the door we were not sure if we were at the right place as there was no sign or Doctors name or anything on the door, and it was locked. Just before ringing the doorbell Frogman says "what is this some kind of underground abortion clinic?". The receptionist let us in and I gave her my info and then had to wait about 45 min to see the Doctor, although it seemed much longer. During this time Frogman is telling me how I have nothing to worry about and the Doctor will probably want to give me an injection of antibiotics. Great so now I am thinking that they are going to want to stick me with a dirty needle at this place that looks like an "underground abortion clinic".

Frogman: There was nothing about this building that even hinted that a doctor's office was here. Then again, there's nothing outside 85 Buenos Aires that hints there are three brothels up there. That's kind of what's interesting about Brazil, you never know what's behind the green door.

Frogman: In this case though you would want to know you're in a clean, anti-septic, professional medical environment. Rio_safado's most important organ was on the line. We got to the second floor and there were no signs on any of the doors in the hallway, no activity, no signs of life, nothing. I made the crack about the underground abortion clinic but realized that despite my own worry I had to keep hope alive for Rio_safado.

Frogman: Once the lady answered the door, after what seemed like an interminable wait, we entered a tiny office with five chairs. When the place finally filled up I think everybody's knees would touch. The office lady was nice and did her best to communicate with us. For some reason she thought I was Don and kept looking at me to answer questions for Rio_safado. She was very casual about the whole thing, she didn't have us fill out any forms or anything you might expect at a medical clinic. I kept telling Rio_safado to just go with the flow. To tell you the truth I still wasn't sure this was a doctor's office.

Frogman: After about ten minutes a sick Brasiliero shows up with his daughter looking worried. Now the office lady stopped her interview of Rio_safado and turned her full attention to the new patient. They obviously knew each other and they talked for about twenty minutes with her writing nothing down. Rio_safado would look at me every now and then with a questioning look for assurance and I'd just repeat again and again, "Go with the flow". That's all you can do in Brazil.

Frogman: The surrealness of the situation was getting to us and Rio_safado must have sensed my brain whirling because he pointed at me and said, "Don't write about this!".

The Doctor is an older guy about 60yrs old who barely spoke English, and I only speak a little bit of Portuguese. The Doc seemed to be more interested in who I fucked than what was wrong with me, this is the point where I act like I don't understand what he is saying. He does a quick exam and says that I have to go to Bronstien medical lab first thing the next morning for a lab test before the first piss of the day. He gave me a couple of boxes of Doxycycline 200mg and told me to take one a day for 10 days after I go to the medical lab. I asked him what the sores were and basically he did not know, he said that it was not Syphilis or Chancroid cause that only appears on the head of the penis but I know that I bullshit because the night before I did a Google image search that showed those can appear in many different places. When I was leaving the Doctor gave me his card. Later in the afternoon I noticed that the card the doctor gave me said that he was an Internal Medicine doctor and not a Urologist.

Frogman: The thing that stood out when he told me about the encounter was that the doctor seemed to have no idea what Rio_safado had. I didn't want to joke with him that perhaps this was a brand new STD and he'll make the medical journals as he might just end up taking a swan dive off of the roof of 4x4. It's not reassuring when the doctor doesn't know. Either it's something rare, or the doctor doesn't know what he's doing. Neither option is good.

Frogman: As it turned out it's pretty rare to get an STD in Rio, so Don didn't know anybody, Roberto just looked up the closest urologist to the store on the internet. I noticed later, after I saw other doctor signs, every doctor calls themselves a urologist in Rio.

The day before (Monday), Jaguar had offered to have Lucy find a Urologist for me. I wanted a second opinion so I asked about having Lucy set up an appointment for me so that I could get a second opinion but he felt that since I already saw a doctor earlier I was being impatient and did not need a second opinion at that point. At this point I was running out of options as the only other person I knew who could help was kjtrav and he was in Sao Paulo until Friday. Around 9PM before going to Balcony I decided to email my regular at 4x4 to ask her if she knew a good Urologist, about an hour later she emailed me back with the name address and number of one in Copa. I read the email the next morning.

Frogman: I was gung-ho on the second opinion after seeing that doctor. As I told Rio_safado, "You only have one penis and you're going to want to use it again, so you'd better get this right."

The next morning, Wednesday, around at 730 am I went to the Lab for what I thought was going to be a piss test but it was actually a urethral swab test, I misunderstood what the Doc said. After they were done violating me at the lab, I went to have breakfast. After breakfast I went back to the apartment and took one of the pills that the Doctor gave me. After taking the pill I noticed that the Doxycycline he gave me expired 4 months ago, at this point I knew that I definitely needed a second opinion. I knew that my Portuguese is not good enough to set up a doctors appointment, so around 10AM I emailed the 4x4 girl back to ask if she could help me out and gave her my cell number. About 10 min later she called and asked if I wanted her to set up an appointment for me I said yes, and she said she would call me back soon. a few minutes later she called back to say that on Wednesdays the Doc is in his office in Centro on Uriguiana and asked if I wanted to see one in Copa instead. I told her that I know where Urigiana is so its not a problem, she said she call back in a few minutes. She called back 15min later to say she found a Urologist in Copa but it would be R300 and the one in Centro is R100 so she made an appointment for me at the one in Centro. She told me that I had to be there by 2PM because their appointments were already filled up for the day but they were squeezing me in because she told them that I was her American husband who does not speak much Portuguese.

Frogman: Rio_safado made a really good point about the medicine in Brazil. Medicine has expirations, sometimes it even turns poisonous. How much do you see sitting out in that heat in the pharmacies? I bet there's air conditioning in the back where they keep the important stuff like Cialis, but how much you wanna bet they turn it off at night when they leave?

When I arrived this place looked like an actual legitimate medical clinic. The clinic had a glass door that had three doctors names and also said "UROLOGIC clínica urológica do centro", not to be confused with the clinicas in São Paulo. The waiting room here was small but there were a lot of people already waiting. When I arrived I told the receptionist who I was and that my wife made an appointment for me a few hours ago. She asked for some additional info and the R100 fee. This doctor spoke decent English and was an actual Urologist. The Doc said that I had what they call a pressure ulcer at the end of my urethra and that was why I had the burning sensation near the tip when pissing. He said that my urethra may have been nicked by a tooth during a BJ. He said that he did not think that I had Gonorrhea or Chlamydia but it was possible but that the 2g of Zithromax would have taken care of that. He said that in Brasil for Gonorrhea they prescribe either 2g Zithromax, or 2g Cipro followed by 1g Cipro for x days, or (I think he said) Cefixime for gono, and 1g of Zithromax for Chlamydia. He said that the sores were probably Chancroid and prescribed 200mg of Doycycline, one a day for 21 days and told me not to have sex until I am done with the antibiotics. At that point I still had 7 days left in Rio.

The rest of the trip was uneventful spent some time at the beach and hung out some at Balcony at night. One day I stopped by 4x4 to give some Victoria's Secret lotion the the girl who helped me. It really sucks to be in Rio and not be able to fuck, I remember constantly thinking, damn I wanna fuck her!

Everything seems to be clearing up, I still have few more days of Doxycycline to take.

Frogman: The whole urine test was pretty funny. It was scheduled for 7:30 A.M. Rio_safado was told that he couldn't piss in the morning. I thought it was going to be a urine test so they wanted the buildup of whatever was in there. But how do you not piss in the morning? How do you hold in that flood tide that's been waiting all night? I told him to set his alarm for 7:20 A.M. and go right to the lab. If he gets up at 6:30 by accident he'd be in pure torture. If it was me, I'd get up at 7:29 and run over there holding my pecker clamped shut.

Frogman: As it turned out it was a swab test where they stick a stick with cotton down your urethra. The reason they didn't want him peeing was to not wash out the bacteria. Duhhh.

Frogman: That was a really smart move on Rio_safado's part, asking a working girl for a Urologist, it makes sense they know the best. So if you ever need a Urologist for the clap, ask a working girl, or better yet, ask Rio_safado, he might just steer you away from an underground abortion clinic.

Just an FYI, you can pick up stuff from a BBBJ. Last year after about a two weeks after I returned from Pattaya, I was removing a condom after banging a TJ girl, and noticed that the sperm had an odd pink tint to it.

He thinks I got it from the BBBJ as I had been using condoms for vaginal sex on the trip.

Did you get results back from the swab test? That should have told you whether you had gonorrhea and/or chlamydia. Both can be transmitted orally.

Sounds to me like you got a BJ from Jaws

The swab test came back negative for bacteria. I don't think that there is no way to know for sure if I had gonorrhea or chlamydia because I had already taken 2g of Zithromax and 2g of Cipro a few days before the swab test.

I am glad there are no photos with this trip report.

My doc thinks it was chlamydia

Roadglide, your doc thinks Rio Safado had chlamydia?

Just as a side note, you mentioned "There was nothing about this building that even hinted that a doctor's office was here."..... The same applies to my dentist office as well. I was curious and I asked my dentist why that was - She told me that robbers at times target doctor offices, since they are usually located in larger buildings where robberies can easily go unnoticed. Makes them vulnerable. Not every doctor hides their practice, but many do.... She told me that this year alone she knows about 3 of her Doctor friend's office being robbed (and yes, they had signs).

The pictures exist. Rio_safado, you should post them. If I had to see them then everybody should suffer.

Just kidding! Please don't post!

"Sounds to me like you got a BJ from Jaws"


Actually I am afraid of women with braces, one of my friends refers to them as the "Black & Decker pecker wrecker"

I have looked through my camera and could not find any evidence that those photos ever existed, could you imagine trying to explain such photos if you get searched going through Customs. Photos, what photos?

"Black and Decker...." That's some funny shit right there.

Lovingmarvin

I would have to question your “ want to keep a low profile theory“. Granted you may have inside information as WHY a doctors office may be hidden but, My long ago experience in the medical field tells me it is a sign of having something less than a thriving practice and since doctors are notoriously cheap, It stands to reason some would work in something other than a professional appearing environment…In other words, The “robber” thing is just a lame excuse for not being able to afford better accommodations…

So, with your 8th grade education, what is your "experience" in the medical field, particularly in Rio de Janeiro? It sounds like, once again, you have zero clue as to what you're talking about.

"You only have one penis and you're going to want to use it again, so you'd better get this right."

Gotta love it...

If ignorance is bliss, Birdlips has achieved Nirvana.

Catocony

After dropping out of school and getting my GED ( technically I graduated before my class) ..I went into the Armed forces ( army ) ..After that I went to a technical trade school for electronics /computer electronics ..Being at the top of my class I was recruited right out of school by Norden Service Company ( subsidiary of United Technologies ) to do over hauls of Board ship electronics equipment….Getting tired of traveling I quit and chased my then GF here to NJ ( long Story ) where I got into Biomedical equipment repair and matainence…Mostly X-ray and X-ray related stuff including CT and MRI…some real high tech shit…

Dude:

MRI and X-ray equipment have almost nothing in common other than they are both imaging technologies. MRI is hardly "X-ray related stuff."

So, what does any of that have to do with running a medical practice - as a physician or a dentist - in Brasil?

Branguinho

My bad. I should have said RADIOLOGY related stuff…And I take issue with your claiming MRI has nothing to do with X-Ray…They both fall under the control of the “Radiology” department and they BOTH certainly fall under biomedical technologies…


Furthermore, Catocony,

This Notion things are TOTALLY different in other countries is absolutely false. especially in and around Major cities….Out in the Country where ignorance, superstitions and just plain o’l long standing customs prevail, it can be a bit different but, not in the cities……………………..

Just my own personal observations..

You're a complete fucking idiot then, as this thread and several others have shown. Doctors' offices - as well as a lot of other professionals - are robbed and attacked in Rio. Globo and Folha do Sao Paulo regularly have articles on business owners who are robbed, held hostage to go to ATMs, etc.

I'm generally seeing your wife's point of view on the divorce, and while I frequently frown on alimony and common property splits with divorces, I think in your case she probably earned it.

"I'm generally seeing your wife's point of view on the divorce, and while I frequently frown on alimony and common property splits with divorces, I think in your case she probably earned it."

Here it comes... FUCK YOU Catocony!!!!



(Message edited by popcorn on December 23, 2010)

Catocony

This Thread and several others have only shown Life in Cities outside America, isn’t much different….Nothing Posted Has proven otherwise. I stand by my “ The robber thing is just a lame excuse for not being able to afford better accommodations” statement..

Hummmm…..it seems getting a little respect around here MAY just turn out to be slightly more challenging than I originally anticipated…no problem…getting respect is my specialty…

If you want respect why are you insisting that there is virtually no difference between the way life is lived in US cities and say Rio or Kinshasa?

This is a very peculiar position to take and the entire point of this board totally flies in the face of this assertion.

I eagerly await your trip report on Omaha Nebraska!

Beefjerky1

Because THERE ISNT a HUGE difference and there is NOTHING in this board pointing to the contrary….You guys are talking VD..we got that here…you guys are talking CRIME…we got that here…You guys are talking about lack of respect for humane life…click the link below and look at what a friend of mine whom I had lived with for 5 or so years, and who’s a$$ I kicked once for stealing my brother coat, did to a woman I had fucked off and on for a period of 3 or 4 years…You wanna talk about lack of respect for human life?

..http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/03/it_was_kiko_not_dwayne_wilson.html

You are either a troll or out of your fucking mind. Of course there is also the possibility that you are both.

Sorry it didnt work out between you and that philipino girl. The relationship seemed to have held such promise.

Birdlips

You noted in a different thread that you have been a member at CH for 3 years, however your profile states you joined late last year. So what was your handle the other 2 years?

"Life in cities outside America isn't much different?"

You have got to be kidding! What planet are we talking about?

Yes sir, Minneapolis and Dar es Salaam could easily be confused. As could Chicago and Calcutta. I was once in Baghdad and could have sworn I was in Phoenix. It was hot! And who among us who's traveled to Karachi didn't do a double-take at the similarity between life there and in Kansas City?

It's a small, small world after all, and we're all alike. All those cities all around the world are just little Orlandos, each with its own DisneyWorld, each surrounded by neat suburbs filled with single-family homes.

Except Birdlips is utterly full of shit. Let's see, he's been to Rio how many times? Zero, if his description of his mongering past is accurate. Yet he's now an expert on Rio's social and commercial infrastructure. Rio's just like San Francisco, right? Hills, a bay, tall buildings, etc. There are some differences, I suppose. San Francisco has a few poor, shady neighborhoods, but Rio has over 500 favelas, many controlled by armed drug gangs. That's a bit different. Rio averages about 21 murders each day. San Francisco averages fewer than 100/year. Violent crime? Rio wins in a cakewalk. So, it stands to reason that a medical facility in Rio--indeed, ALL medical facilities in Rio--should look just like those in San Francisco, or Karachi, or Calcutta. Everything's the same everywhere!

Well, he's stated he looks forward to traveling to Nigeria and why not? It's a "Dead Ringer" for Boise, Idaho!

Popcorn

My other Handle was my REAL NAME. I only recently changed it just before posting the Philippines TR..

I couldn’t tell you exactly when I joined but I know it had to be over 3 years ago. I took a trip to Sosua DR back in Nov 2007 and would never have known it even existed if it wasn’t for CH..I have let my membership Lapse a few times so that may account for the discrepancy in the “Member Since” Date…

Bwana dik

“what Planet are we talking about?“

Lets review our options shall we…( damn I am gonna need a real bunker buster for this guy I can tell )


“Yes sir, Minneapolis and Dar es Salaam could easily be confused. As could Chicago and Calcutta. I once was in Baghdad and ..> snip < “ …….YAAAAawwwwnnn blah blah blah , yeah yeah, ok ok I get your point. ..But the problem is this..THAT AINT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU IDIOT!!!!

What we are talking about is WHY a Doctor in RIO would choose a basement type operation over something more high profile….One explanation given, the one that sparked the current debate we are now engaged in, was, Its for security reasons. ..I say that’s hog wash. I say its because they can’t afford a more professional looking operation….

As we all know, Most burglaries in any given geographical location, are done by locals to that area.. If any of you are so stupid to think a Doctor, who’s patients normally come from within reasonable proximity to his office, is gonna successfully hide what he does from the local thugs then, all I can say is, BOOOOONE HEEEEADS !!

Birdlips:

Does your dog like you?

Does your mother like you?

Do homeless people like you?

Do you kids (both legitimate and illegitimate) like you?

Anyone in your family like you?

If they don't now, was there ever a time that even one of the answers was yes?

If so, maybe there is still hope for you good buddy.

We will all pray for you.

MM

Damn..

You know if MM is praying..the situation's gotta be pretty bad...

Wow,that is pretty freakin crazy content Rio!

J666:

I might be closer to the above than can ever guess.

One thing that Rio Safado forgot to mention in the story - on the day that he first developed his "issues", some idiots started tearing the apartment apart that was right next to his - and right above mine. They started around 8:00 AM the first day, the second day it was more like 7:45 - and they were there bright and early around 6:30 to blab and yell at the top of their voices.

So, in addition to the pain, fear, disappointment and shame from his mangled manhood, some of the high-quality Rio craftsman we've all seen in action at some point over the years were there, bright and early, with a special wake-up call.

"They started around 8:00 AM the first day, the second day it was more like 7:45 - and they were there bright and early around 6:30 to blab and yell at the top of their voices.

So, in addition to the pain, fear, disappointment and shame from his mangled manhood, some of the high-quality Rio craftsman we've all seen in action at some point over the years were there, bright and early, with a special wake-up call."


Twice they woke me up around 6:15 talking at the top of their lungs. I had heard stories about the Rio craftsmen but this was the first time I experienced it, I was hoping that I was just an urban legend. It sounded like they do all their work with a hammer and chisel.

(Message edited by Rio_safado on December 25, 2010)

An observation about pharmacies in Rio: I needed to buy Doxycycline and I went into every pharmacy on Avenida Copacabana between Rua Sá Ferreira and Rua Santa Clara. Only one drugstore had Doxycycline, Drogasmil near Rua Santa Clara. Only three pharmacies were air conditioned and cool inside, the others were as hot inside as it was outside. I don't think that I would trust antibiotics from one of the places that is hot inside. I was lucky the place that actually had Doxycycline (Drogasmil) was one of the air conditioned places.

OMG! Barebacking in Rio? Did you think this was Angeles City? Which reports have ever mentioned barebacking in Rio? Dude get a clue!

Portege, you're a little late to this discussion. According to Rio_Safado, the only barebacking was BBBJs. Everything else was covered. And plenty of guys in a variety of reports have mentioned barebacking in Rio.

I feel sorry for those barebacking in Brazil. According to estimates, there are 700,000 there who have HIV. Pornstar Darren James caught HIV from Brazilian sex workers.

http://bossip.com/228411/porn-star-darren-james-talks-about-catching-the-hiv-from-brazilian-bunda-video/

The raincoat rant lives on. In the process of getting tested for HIV, the physician made me aware that condoms certainly help but aren't always foolproof in preventing the spread of the HIV virus. I was tested because I had a case of the drip and research has confirmed that STD's such as gonorrhea increase the likelihood of transmitting the HIV virus IF the STD was transmitted from an individual with the HIV virus. Luckily, that wasn't the case but it did get my attention. If a monger chooses to go bareback, that's a personal decision. If he catches STD's or even the HIV virus, too bad but he should have known the more partners, the higher the risk. The problem lies in a situation where he infects someone else unknowingly or even the unthinkable situation, knowingly. I sure wouldn't want to have that on my conscious.

A quick google reveals that (2006 numbers) there are about 1,100,000 aids sufferers in the US. Given our relative populations Brazil doesnt seem to pose much more of an HIV threat than here.

Its probably a lot safer to use a condom but it doesnt seem all that unsafe for a hetero male not to use one as far as HIV goes. Probably well worth it for the protection it provides against other STD's but the aids threat (if we are to believe the stated number of straight porn guys who get it) is pretty minor.

Portege, will this information be included on your travel guide to Rio? I figure since you've never been, you're probably working on the guide first.

A few observations:
1. Birdlips has got to be poster of the year. Love love love this stuff.

2. When people start arguing with Bwana I know they are idiots. When people argue with Catocony, I know they are masochists. I fear this will not end well...hopefully Birdlips wont make threats or cross any lines, I really think we need him here (Hombre can he have a lifetime membership?)

3. Porkege--Darren James had anal sex with porn actress Bianca Biaggi who had previously practiced unprotected sex with a tranny. Anal is a high risk behavior any way you slice it--but Tranny's have a higher rate of HIV than the population as a whole for a variety of obvious reasons and also because transexual and gay films often are done without testing prior because the actors do not want to know their status.

Ya know GCL, Turk5555 was the real deal, a total and complete misguided imbecile. If someone could convince me that Birdlips is also the real deal I might agree with you about his entertainment value. But it seems Birdlips is only playacting. And although one might reasonably consider him a total and complete misguided imbecile for choosing to play act that he is one, that does not make him a Turk, or anything close.

To highlight my point, I don't recall anyone on this board questioning Turk5555's sincerity, or questioning whether there really was a Christiane, or whether GCL had an all-consuming desire to get Christiane to participate in a Bukkake.

But I digress. Now what was my point again?

Birdie sure likes to stir the pot even though it usually ends up backfiring in his face. Let's start a thread for his most memorable statements. Here's my nomination.

"As I scroll through this thread from top to bottom, I see myself evolving from what you now describe me as being to what you think I should become. I don’t know why ya’ll don’t see that"

Gcl

“ hopefully Birdlips wont make threats or cross any lines “

If history repeats itself as it has since I started posting in various forums on the net..the exact opposite, eventually, is more likely to happen..



Laguy

Not sure what you are trying to say there…It seems u see the MAJOR difference between myself and this Turk character is , you believe what he says to be true and you think I am full of shit…I disagree. Assuming you are referring to my “ ED” post, I think you believe it. I think you believe it and can identify with it. I think you were faced with the same situation at some point that wound up having much worse consequences than my own and you refuse to believe anyone could be as stupid as you

Popcorn

“ Birdie sure likes to stir the pot “ ……Stirring the pot isn’t my objective. It just seems to be a byproduct of my thoughts or opinions. I cant help that…

As I was saying, not Turk quality, not by a mile.

"I think you believe it and can identify with it. I think you were faced with the same situation at some point that wound up having much worse consequences than my own and you refuse to believe anyone could be as stupid as you."

Ah...Birdlips goes Freudian on us. Charming. Lame, but charming.

"If history repeats itself as it has since I started posting in various forums on the net..the exact opposite, eventually, is more likely to happen."

So wherever you go in cyberspace, shit happens, but it's never your fault. You are reasonable and sensible, but others are unreasonable in their responses to your unprovocative posts.

Right.

I'm with you Laguy. Here's why I don't believe he ever made the trip. When he states he arrived in Manila, his first time there, he makes zero mention of his observations of the city, the crazy traffic, the overwhelming poverty or anything of that nature. Nor does he elaborate on Subic, other than to say he rode a horse. Not typical of a newbie report. He also had trouble remembering the names of the hotels where he stayed and he said he stayed in the Orchid in AC. There's no such hotel in AC. There's the Orchid Inn and the Wild Orchid but he doesn't include that in his statement. Who would forget that? Plus not one photo, not even his supposed "sweety" for which he has no reason not to post.

Birdlips, your statement of "This Notion things are TOTALLY different in other countries is absolutely false." is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD!!!!

You mean to tell me that owning a business in lets say Stockholm is the same as in Rio de Janeiro? You mean to tell me that the security situation in Minneapolis, US is the same as in Rio?

Then you really have no clue....

Even such a general comment is nuts, but even more so on a city you have no clue about.

believe it or not, but AC is different then Rio...I know that must be hard to believe.

I also enjoy the statement "What we are talking about is WHY a Doctor in RIO would choose a basement type operation over something more high profile….One explanation given, the one that sparked the current debate we are now engaged in, was, Its for security reasons. ..I say that’s hog wash. I say its because they can’t afford a more professional looking operation…. "

What bullshit....again completely clueless. It seems rather common sense to not comment and insist on your statement being true when you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about a city or especially another country....just my thoughts.

I guess using Birdlips logic, since things are not that different from country to country, I can now safely take my sailing trip around the coast of Somalia since it is just like the Florida Keys.

As far HIV, STD's.....Brazil has had a long standing "use condom's" advertising campaign...previously on the metro, now on billboards on the side of the street.

The initial report started well enough....a recount of an experience of potentially catching the clap and the story behind seeking medical treatment.

if at this point anyone one this board needs sex ed, please delete your account now stop mongering...for those of you on the raincoat rant again (!!!!!), just fucking stop it....geeeezzzzz....

Bwana dik….

“ so wherever you go in cyberspace, shit happens, but its never your fault.”

I never said that..

“You are reasonable and sensible,”

I like to think so

“ but others are unreasonable in their responses to your un provocative posts….right”

I never said that either…where are you coming up with this shit huh?


Popcorn…..

I didn’t mention the things you noted because I wasn’t “overwhelmed” by any of what you mentioned. I have traveled a bit, though not for mongering, and have seen a lot…..As for Subic bay, there wasn’t much more to tell. We went there and were going to eat at this Japanese restaurant on the bay but decided to go to a cheaper place down the street. We didn’t go to the bar/ hooker area of town so I didn’t even see that part. We then went horseback riding and that was it. Nothing more to tell….And as for Orchid vs. “Orchid Inn”, well, your gettin a little ANAL there, aintcha?

Lovingmarvy…

What I meant was PEOPLE are generally the same…All countries have good people and bad…crooks and saints, rich, poor, entrepreneurs and vagabonds.. ALL people of this world live with the same emotions as Americans. They love, cry, are happy and sad, worship a god, have families they care about and friends they hang around. All to often some people, Americans in particular, see people in other countries, 3rd world countries for the most part, as being uncivilized sociopaths when nothing could be further from the truth…..

And as for the “basement type operation “ thing. I stand by my statement since nothing provided to date adequately refutes my opinion that was BTW, formed from EXPERIENCE…Sure you know “A” doctor who gave you a “clue”, and perhaps he is sincere in what his explanation was but, that 1 doctor doesn’t speak for ALL doctors…. Nor should you….

Dipshit, why are you arguing with someone WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTRY IN QUESTION when you've never set foot there? Particularly since several of us who don't live there but have spent extensive amounts of time there - or in Bwana's case, used to live there - concur with LM?

BECAUSE,

Because the guy ISN’T A DOCTOR there and is relying on input from 1 source, a friend who may be a bit shy about admitting he cant afford a better place….The rest of you are going along with it because you think it makes since…to >> ME << it doesn’t, and couple that with what I know about doctors, REGARDLESS of which country they are working in, I come to the conclusion they either do not have a “thriving practice” and cannot afford better accommodations ..OR..they are just plain o’l cheap pricks..

Perhaps a small percentage DO…DO infact try to hide their practice but , 1) I seriously doubt such a tactic works and, 2) Doubt more than a FRACTION of total Docs employ such a doomed strategy….

It is probably best to just move on and bury this post.... based on the recent slew of replies/posts by Birdlips he seems to be a lost cause - just incoherent bunch of dribble.

Lets all just agree with him and maybe he will stop posting....

by the way, Birdlips, if you ever do make it to Brazil I suggest trying your "people are people, and all the same" theory on the local Rio police - You will find them to be completely professional and very similiar to the police in the US and Europe (LOL!!!). I also highly recommend wearing all your normal jewelry, watches, and carrying a camera around your neck like a typical tourist.

Lets see what happens to your theory.....

Perhaps you guys need to be introduced to the Jersey City NJ pigs. Maybe then you wont see such a big difference..

“ I also highly recommend wearing all your normal jewelry, watches, and carrying a camera around your neck like a typical tourist”

Oh really?…And you mean to tell me the same wouldn’t apply to a lot tourist destinations in the US?. Ill tell you what, forget about all the jewelry and stuff and just show up in the Bedford- Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn NY with a nice pair of tennis Shoes and see what happens….

Like I said before…Normal security measures in unfamiliar territory would be prudent, anywhere you go…

This thread has been hijacked, and is now dead.

Nice work, Birdshit. Your arrogance is exceeded only by the depth of your ignorance.

Ignorance?..perhaps a little considering I have never been to Brazil but the same would apply to ya’ll too if you haven’t been to Bed Sty…and as for arrogance, well, though we all may be equally ignorant in one way or another, I think arrogant would apply more to YOU and the rest because of your continued insistence that I am the ignorant and arrogant one and expecting me to believe it because of your ‘experience”…

Good luck, Birdlips. I hope you continue to get through your mongering adventures unscathed and that any experiences or observations you might have continue to have no effect on your pre-formed opinions. Why mess with perfection?

Thanks Beef

I wish you the same…

My biggest fear going on these trips is I will get robbed, ticketed or harassed by the police, or just become in some way a victim of a violent crime BEFORE my plane ever leaves the airport….wish me luck there too bro..

(Message edited by copperfieldkid on January 10, 2011)

CFK, thank you for your thoughts. I see you put them all down on one post. Nice work.

I thought that was one of CFKs most useful posts from the last few years.

Hey, the BCBS game was about to start, priorities are just that. At this point this thread should be entitled:
More discussion and Less Knowledge

ohhhh boy, how far we have strayed from an originally interesting story about getting clap in Rio (I am sure all of us had some thought about an STD along the way with this hobby of ours :-) It all went downhill from there...