In the past, I have been fascinated by the research work of Chritine Johnson.

Christine is an independant researcher and not a bad place to start for your own AIDS research, if you are so inclined.

Here is one link (I hope I get it right):

www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjtest4.htm

Wouldn't ya know it ! Missed one letter,
the "s" after "test". Apologies.

One more try:

www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjtests4.htm

BTW, I chose the above article especially for Westfargo, who asked about the subject in another thread.

www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/sblubejob.htm

Eunuch,
I just went into Yahoo, Alta vista, Google, Jet scan. Non have your information. At least I tried. I'm not saying HIV isn't a deadly virus. I'm saying many mongers do it secretly, and that can kill you. Know your women, place, and chances of getting. And above all, drinking too much alcoachol allows you to do the skanks that normally you wouldn't do. ie(blow all your money on whores)

The subject of Condomless sex is like the "Just say no to drugs" that doesn't work. Period! The Fags have known that for a long time.

Westfargo...

'Fargo,

The addresses are good, but you have to spell them correctly.

I almost forgot about another "Chritine".

Christine Maggiore has founded this website:

www.aliveandwell.org

THE TRUTH ABOUT AIDS
IN A NEWSPAPER!

From the front page of the Mail & Guardian (South Africa) Jan. 24, 2001
The AIDS Blunder by David Rasnick PhD, Member of Thabo Mbeki's AIDS Advisory Panel (South Africa)

The contagious, HIV hypothesis of AIDS is the biggest scientific, medical blunder of the 20th Century. The evidence is overwhelming that AIDS is not contagious, sexually transmitted, or caused by HIV. I have come to realize that embarrassment is the main obstacle to exposing this simple fact.

So why are we barraged, almost daily, by an endless litany of AIDS horrors and HIV statistics? Why do virtually all doctors and public health officials profess their unswerving allegiance to the unproven hypothesis that AIDS is contagious and sexually transmitted when the evidence is greatly against it?

There are more than 100 thousand doctors and scientists who have built their careers and reputations by simply accepting the articles of faith about AIDS. At this late date, it is simple human embarrassment that is the biggest obstacle to bringing the AIDS insanity to an end. It is the fear of being so obviously and hopelessly wrong about AIDS that keeps lips sealed, the money flowing and AIDS rhetoric spiraling to stratospheric heights of absurdity.

The physicians who know or suspect the truth are embarrassed or afraid to admit that the HIV tests are absurd and should be outlawed, and that the anti-HIV drugs are injuring and killing people.

We are taught to fear antibodies, and to believe that antibodies to HIV are a harbinger of disease and death ten years in the future. When you protest this absurdity and point out to health care workers that antibodies are the very essence of anti-viral immunity your objections are met with either contempt or embarrassed silence.

The National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, the Medical Research Council of South Africa, and the World Health Organization are terrorizing hundreds of millions of people around the world by their reckless and absurd policy of equating sex with death. Self preservation compels these institutions to not only maintain but to actually compound their errors, which adds to the fear, suffering, and misery of the world-the antithesis of their reason for being.

The only way we can free ourselves from the AIDS blunder and bring an end to the tyranny of fear is to have an open international discourse and debate on all things AIDS. Anger will be a natural response to facing the enormity of the scandal of AIDS. Anger has its place but it should be put aside quickly. It is a mistake to focus on villains and on whom to punish.

The AIDS blunder is a sociological phenomenon in which we all share a measure of responsibility.

Ultimately, the AIDS blunder is not really about AIDS, nor even about health and disease, nor even about science and medicine. The AIDS blunder is about the health of our democracies. A healthy democracy demands that its citizens keep a skeptical, even suspicious, eye on its institutions in order to prevent them from becoming the autonomous, authoritarian regimes they are now.

The AIDS blunder shows that we need to rethink and restructure our institutions of government, science, health, academe, journalism and media. We must replace the National Institutes of Health as the primary gatekeeper of research funding with numerous competing sources of funding. We must restructure the peer review processes of scientific publishing and funding so that they do not promote and protect any particular dogma or fashion of thought or exclude competing ideas. A robust and mean investigative journalism must be revived, rewarded and cherished.

Finally, as citizens we must take back the authority and responsibility for our own health and well being and that of our democracies.
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Personally, I do not believe AIDS to be an STD. That's my opinion.

STDs, of course, are real and if you don't use condoms while mongering you might come up with one or two or three of them....!!!

Here's an article on probably one of the biggest immune destroyers in the gay community whose popular use began I believe in the early eighties: "poppers"; those little yellow bottles labeled as "video head cleaner" that you may have seen in some "head shops" or adult book stores.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/iypoppers.htm

(It's a typically long article)

All AIDS patients test positive for HIV. Viral loads increase as AIDS symptons develop. Treatment for HIV reduces the progression to the AIDS condition.
These three facts are enough to avoid catching HIV.
PLEASE POST THE NAMES, ADDRESSES AND DESCRIPTIONS OF ALL THE GIRLS YOU HAVE SEX WITH SO I CAN STAY AWAY FROM THEM.

I have much more faith in the US medical establishment than in some wacko/fringe researchers and some third world small time newspapers.

I wonder if it would be possible to get Eunuch to live up to his handle?

He wouldn't have the balls.

A Silly kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Eunuch:

What is it that has convinced you to side with a minority fringe element that states that all the major public health organizations in the world are in error, and furthermore are in conspiratorial agreement that this now recognized error should continue to be disseminated as truth in order to avoid embarrassment?

I hope it is not journalistic coverage in newspapers or essays published on private websites. Where are your facts?

I want to know. I would hate to think that I have been duped all these years. But I don't think I have.

Shy Guy

The information within both virusmyth and aliveandwell speaks for itself. Some of the responses clearly speak for themselves.

Get up off your lazy minds.
Or, continue to believe that parts of your government would never do you or your family wrong.

My first exposure to this dissident stuff was around 1984 from listening to Los Angeles public radio station KPFK (90.7FM) and also late night public service time with Michael Benner at ABCs KLOS(95.5FM).

How many people even know that AIDS is a category that was created of a shitload of diseases that have been around practically forever.

There is more than enough referenced information to come to one's own intelligent decision if given time, which of course many of us don't have enough of.

Eunuch

Wow! Eunuch, you can't really believe such total nonsense can you? Truly amazing.
NCsnake

1984, huh? Eunuch, please tell me you don't worship Oscar Wilde...

NC',

I see it as total nonsense the proclamation that the HIV particle is a virus.

Apparently your saying this is sense?

You can explain it for us?

Malachy,

Gallo critics were right there in 1984.

Eunich If you knew what AIDS stood for you would be partially informed. The S is symptons and they are associated with a number of otherwise rare diseases. Hopefully your ignorance will not get you HIV, I suggest you get a frequent check from a reputable Doctor.

Eunuch,
I'm with Shy Guy on this one. The volumes of (real) scientific data on HIV and AIDS explain the situation as well as human beings understand it, and there appears to be good consensus among medical professionals on the subject. I may have a biased opinion myself on the "scientific method" having sent the last 17 years in a science field (Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry), but I do think the general public accept genuine scientific R&D over wild claims by people who have no factual basis for their assertions.

I still know one older person who believes the whole moon landing was faked to justify the NASA budget at the time ... what's your opinion on that one?
NCsnake

NCsnake,

Which wild claims have no factual basis?

I am certain you have not spent even 30 minutes analyzing the dissident information with an independant mind.

NC snake, do you really think Christine Maggiore's site is full of nonsense? Total nonsense?

Eunuch

694me,

What's up with you? I can't remember you ever posting like a troll, but maybe there's a problem with me memory, among other things.

You are so far off, I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or just ignore you:

AIDS= acquired immune deficiency SYNDROME

Here are just three "rare" diseases included under the AIDS category: tuberculosis, salmonella, diarrhea. Hardly rare 694me.

Eunuch

Tax dollars put to good use...

http://www.whatisaids.com/aidsinc.htm

Current Glaxo lawsuit here:

http://www.whatisaids.com/glaxolawsuit.htm

Kaposi's sarcoma, Pneumocystis carinii, cytomegalovirus are all common syndromes of patients with high viral loads of HIV. They are not common, and in fact are rare, in people who are not HIV+.

I forgot to add lymphadenopathy as a HIV induced desease.
A normal rate for Pneumocystis carinii would be one case in two years. HIV infected people have rates as high as 50% or several thousands of cases a year in untreated patients.

OK...that's impressive information.

Next time don't take so long.

(I'm kidding...)

694me,

That would be so cool if you turned out to be a pharmaceutical salesman.

Eunuch

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/howhiv.htm

Malachy,

Thank you for the post. I feel no need to comment specifically on the piece.

I would like to say this:

If, somewhere in the future, someone in our community should come up with a "double positive" (this is my my phrase, since I do not know what a doctor would currently call this)...there will be a very important decision to make.

It will likely be a life or death decision...I can only hope that an informed and intelligent decision is made by the individual.

No one is ultimately responsible but the patient (my opinion).

Thank you again for the post,
Eunuch

P.S.--- Malachy, are you willing to share with us whether you are a physician or otherwise involved in medicine?

I am a computer technician. My mother is a nurse.