By Dondingo on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 09:39 pm: Edit |
The concept of a sugardaddy/sugarbaby arrangement has long interested me, so when a friend said she'd found a gratifying arrangement at this site, I checked it out.
Girls post the arrangements they expect, and guys post the arrangements they're offering.
Since posting a profile last week, I've interacted with 6 women, 18-30yo, all local. I'm duly impressed with the quality of talent I've written to thus far.
Unlike 'traditional dating sites' where men chase the women who don't answer, I've had a response to 80% of the messages I've sent. Over the next week I have 5 meetings arranged to interview candidates.
Will follow up with my results.
Cheers
DonDingo
By Topfotog on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 01:17 pm: Edit |
What's is the cost of such arrangements? I know a couple of guys who also report decent 'date-like' arrangements at $250-$300 each time in the Phoenix area.
By Murasaki on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
I learned about that site last year, and have since been curious about it. It will be interesting to see what transpires in the coming weeks.
By Catocony on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 09:20 pm: Edit |
I had very limited success with a setup like this years ago. Just like anything on the Net, a lot of the girls were flakes. Some were just straight-up hookers, some were very obviously thieves (or wannabe thieves). A few I spoke with were actually serious.
Nothing much actually came of it, since to me, the return on investment wasn't there. A lot of time and effort spent to find girls to fuck for money, when it would have been easier and cheaper to just use the normal channels.
By Dondingo on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 10:36 pm: Edit |
In my area, 'normal channels' cost $150 per session, so at 3x/week I would spend around $2000/month.
My goal is to find 'fresh talent' that will be happy to meet 3x/week for as close to $1000/month as possible.
My first meeting was with a 26 yo Iranian that was stunning - simply drop dead gorgeous. Were her photo posted on this site, it would easily win both the monthly and quarterly contest. Alas she was seeking someone in the $3k/month or more budget, so we ended our meeting at a financial impass, albeit with me leaving somewhat blue balled. I have no doubt she will find someone to support her habits, while I will find someone pleased to earn $1000/month to meet my needs.
More as it develops...
By Maxmojo on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 01:53 pm: Edit |
I had luck with travelgirls.com a few years back. hooked up with a couple of pro's and semi pro's while traveling in the EU and must say overall had an enjoyable time. I paid for a Ukie and a Polish girl to travel to me and spend a few days while I conducted business. Each provided a GFE and were great arm candy while out on the streets and entertaining clients. I would repeat again, but YMMV.
SeekingArrangements is also interesting. Do keep us posted DG
By Dondingo on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 09:26 pm: Edit |
Update: since interacting with 6 women, I've met three and actually made significant progress with one - more on that later, but first my observations on how to navigate the process
Searching: apparently this site runs radio ads, which catch the attention of women curious about the dynamic of a 'romantic sugar daddy'. Said women then go home, check out the site, create a free profile and then wait for it to be approved. I found that by contacting the newest profiles, I got the highest response rate - even as soon as the day they are posted.
Profiles: when writing ones profile, it appears that the more altruistic in nature, the better quality the response. Specifically, stating that 'I'm fine with making purely financial arrangements, however some sugarbaby's want more. If that's you, keep reading' (after all, what woman DOESN'T want more?) Continuing with a description of how your life experience (personal, recreational and professional) can benefit someone - will definitely draw in a crowd. Every woman who signed up to find a benefactor will be instantly drawn to the concept of a NOBLER REASON to contact you, and that's exactly what they do.
I've made significant headway with an exquisitely exotic creature in her early 20's, with several other candidates lined up over the next two weeks. Will post more as develops... wish me luck mates!
Cheeeeeers!
Dondingo
(Message edited by dondingo on January 23, 2013)
By Baxter on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:30 am: Edit |
Glad to hear you're making progress DD, I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out. I stumbled upon the owner of Seeking Arrangement being interviewed on daytime TV a few months ago. Of course the host was charging the guy with being nothing more than a pimp. Two decent looking but not my type white Sugarbabies were also on the show, explaining why they shouldn't be considered hookers. Lots of aghast looks on the faces of the mostly female audience.
By Lovingmarvin on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:19 am: Edit |
I guess this is a way to allow a girl to somehow rationalize to herself that this is a "financial arrangement" versus hooking. Kind of funny! Seems pretty clear cut - Money for sex = prostitution. Ok, got to give some leeway to certain types of girlfriends and wives - In some cases they are simply blood sucking leeches. I think I prefer a Hooker!
By Johnnyroc on Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 12:17 pm: Edit |
Unless you are a disgusting pig....women nowadays are very eager to put out for a little help. Paying their cell phone bill is like dropping R500 at 4x4. I have built up quite a stable for minimal cost.
By Pedro79 on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 08:55 pm: Edit |
Thanks to this thread, I joined that site today and have already received 7 e-mails! (And I haven't even posted a picture yet!) Unfortunately, I have to tell them that I will be in Rio de Janeiro next week for two weeks, so we will not be able to meet until after that!
By Dondingo on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 10:04 am: Edit |
Update:
Closed the deal with a 21yo Island girl. Thin. Exotic. Works full-time & goes to school part-time. Says she's never done this before.
Meeting 1 - drinks - good chemistry
Meeting 2 - dinner - excellent connection
Meeting 3 - overnight - GFE all the way
On my profile, I don't list what 'arrangements' I'm willing to pay. Neither did she. When the topic came up in our first meeting, I told her I'd write her and we could discuss it via email. I offered $1500/month. She suggested she was hoping for $3k-$5k/month. I told her I was sure she'd find someone willing to provide such arrangements, just as I was sure I'd find someone in my range, but would there be the connection we shared? And who could put a price on that? I then suggested we get together for dinner to see how things went.
Dinner was delightful. Closed the restaurant down with us making out in the booth. Nice. Mutual attraction. No more direct mention of funds, but rather what she wanted to do with some extra monies. She dreamed. I encouraged.
When I suggested going on a 'mini-vacay' to a local place, there was no hesitation in her saying yes, with no talk of funds. When making out got heated up, she stopped me at taking her pants down, saying we were going to behave that night and she was "going to be good'. It took an hour of heating up that fire to get into her extremely tight little pussy. She's 5'3" and probably weighs 95-100 lbs, but those curves kicked my butt.
At bfast I sent her off with a few bucks to enjoy her plans for the weekend and arrangements made for another sleepover early next week. I like how this is progressing... this is clearly the most authentic 'girl friend experience' I've had in my own town, and is an excellent alternative to travelling.
By Beefjerky1 on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 06:59 pm: Edit |
You are my hero, Dondingo.
Due to your comments I checked out Seekingarrangements and there are some intriguing possibilities here in Vegas.
I understand that you gave her a little walking around money after your initial hump fest but how are you planning to handle payment in the future?
By Dondingo on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 10:07 pm: Edit |
Best of luck to ya in Vegas, BeefJerky1. As for future payments, I will keep it on a 'pay as we go' basis with differing amounts each time. I don't see myself prepaying at all.
By Beefjerky1 on Friday, February 01, 2013 - 10:32 pm: Edit |
This is how I would do it also but how do you avoid the "prostitute" vibe paying after each session?
It may seem ridiculous but I think a lot of these girls don't want to see themselves as prostitutes even though they are accepting money for sex. they want the money disconnected from the sex. Thats hard to do when you pay them after you bone them.
Also, do you have a set number of times you expect her to visit you or are you leaving that up to how industrious your sugar baby wants to be?
There are some cuties out there. There are also some hideous water buffalo that shouldnt have been allowed on the site.
Isn't the internet great!
By Bwana_dik on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 01:27 am: Edit |
Beefjerky1,
You speak of avoiding the "prostitute vibe" as though there's something wrong with that! God Bless prostitutes and prostitution.
All sexual relationships involve exchanges of some sort, either implicit or explicit. Sometimes it's cash, sometimes it's economic security in a more general sense, sometimes it's status...but there's always an exchange. Prostitution is just the most explicit, and some might say honest, form of exchange. Both parties are giving up something they value for something they want more of. Men want more orgasms; women want more security. So we're all hookers.
Call them sugar daddies, call them sponsors, its still seems that they get the worst of it all. The price per pop tends to be pretty high, and you're stuck fucking the same girl week after week. One of the main reasons many of us started down this path was the boredom/lack of variety factor. I don't mind being a sugar daddy, but prefer to limit the length of my contracts to between 2-12 hours.
By Beefjerky1 on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 02:17 am: Edit |
Bwana- As you well know I have no problem with the prostitute vibe. I was talking about the concerns the sugar baby might have.
Yes, its not rational. As I say they are in fact accepting money for sex and that equals prostitution but I suspect many prospective sugar babies want to separate themselves from this association. They want to view the relationship as something other than what it really is and so I suspect there is some kabuki theatre involved.
From a sugar daddies perspective there are - or can be - gratifications other than sex.
My adorable little Brazilian girl is about to graduate from Nursing school. I couldnt be prouder. Its been months since I have been in Rio. If I worked out cost per fuck it would be laughably expensive but Im at the point in my life money is not much of an issue and I like playing daddy to ambitious young women. Boss Tweed types that sees their opportunities and takes em.
By Dondingo on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 08:51 am: Edit |
I just realized what your initials are BJ1, which reminds me how awesome a hummer my sugarbaby gives. She must've trained at Circue Du Solei, cuz she swallows the sword like a trained pro.
As for the prostitot vibe ( she's too young and tiny to have a prostitute vibe), in her profile she flat out states she wants a gentleman who knows how to treat a woman, and knows the difference between respecting and paying for her. And that's exactly what I'm doing. I will always have between $100-200 in my wallet when we're together and make a point of having her talk about what she wants before saying 'I love it - great dream - here's a little something towards that'.
Some guys like flashing money - not that there's anything wrong with that. I prefer consciously creating a compelling relationship that keeps her on the edge of her seat and wanting to spend t i m e with me.
By Dondingo on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 08:58 am: Edit |
Bwana I too share your wandering eye, however there's something to be said for a 'favorita', nao? Methinks you may have had a favorita or two along your journey? Let's just call her that. There are plenty of others on the menu whenever I want variety, but she's definitely my favorita.
Besides, not all of us are able or interested in travelling the world as oft as Sexual Gladiators like you in search of the best poon the world has to offer. That said - I'd dearly love to storm Angeles with you again soon, mate!
CHEERS
DonDingo
By Baxter on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 09:06 am: Edit |
Thanks for the updade DD, looks like you've got a good thing going with Island Girl.
Yes, this is paying for sex. As far as the philosophical question of how the girl has rationalized in her own mind that this is OK...it's just not my concern.
By Jjgettis on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 03:20 pm: Edit |
There is a national forum on the sugar daddy phenom on www.eccie.net.
Lot of dicussion on how to pick your own sugar babies from harried low wage girls.
By Dondingo on Sunday, February 03, 2013 - 09:22 pm: Edit |
Jigettis would you mind posting a link to the actual forum? I can't seem to find it on the eccie site. Very much appreciated mate!
By Dondingo on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 09:27 pm: Edit |
Found this guide to being a SugarDaddy, and man it is spot on!!!
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=9404
Reposting here as a service to the fine gentry of this board.
Dinner and a show tomorrow night with my exotic island sugarbaby, and this sugardaddy's ready for round two !!!
By Dondingo on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 06:06 pm: Edit |
A photo of the exotic island girl...
By Dondingo on Thursday, March 07, 2013 - 02:48 pm: Edit |
Update: Exotic girl fizzled out a few weeks ago cuz she wanted 'more'. Doesn't every woman?
Since then, I communicated with several before finding another exotic - this time a Colombiana/Jamaican. She just broke up from 10 year relationship and was struggling to support herself while in school. While bangin here, this scene from a famous movie kept goin through my mind http://www.drodd.com/gump/schoolin.wav
Here's how it went down:
Meet for bfast - goes well. Get straight to the point.
Meet for lovin - bottle of wine, massage and amazing GFE w/DFK, BBBJ, deepthroat with tongue ticklin the twins, BBFS, more BBBJ before asking for a PSE moneyshot all over her model quality face. Arranged for 3 regular weekly meetings at $1600/mo. Value? I'll say.
Have three more candidates lined up including a 18yo High School Senior who was very fun when we facetimed. (cam chat on the iPhone for those who don't know) I made her show me her driver's license to prove her age, which is 18 since January. Banging a local when she gets outta school sounds fun - I just hope she doesn't ask me to take her to Prom?
(Message edited by dondingo on March 07, 2013)
By Maxmojo on Friday, March 08, 2013 - 07:01 am: Edit |
I tried the site as well. Posted an ad with a pic and was surprised at the responses. My mailbox filled quickly with winks and notes from 19 y.o.'s to board soccer moms wanting a little excitement for a few dinero.
There was one that stood out from the others, an AVN Hall of Fame porn star who retired from the business, married and was recently separated. She held up very well for a 40 y.o. and I knew I had to do her.
Website pic from the day
Current pic
Milk me daddy pic
After a few phone calls and steamy text sessions, we met for dinner last night. An attractive MILF that had a good head on her shoulders, a good body for her age and, most importantly, crotchless panties under her conservative dress.
We had a great conversation over dinner while i toe fucked her under the table. She got so hot that we boxed the remainder of the meal and headed to the hotel.
She brought a carry on full of sex toys and wasn’t shy about using them. We did everything; anal, pee hole stimulation- she had a special rod that was inserted like a catheter, which I wiggled while she worked an industrial size vibrator on her pussy to cum again and again. I fisted her until she squirted like a fire hydrant then tit fucked her until I shot all over her face, and that was just for starters
This is the first true nymphomaniac I’ve ever been with. Left her in the hotel room after several hours. As I turned back to look at her, she was still lying on her back with legs in the air working that vibrator and catheter like a true professional.
Would I do her again? Not sure. The fantasy became a reality and is now checked off the bucket list. On the other hand, if the mood for kink ever strikes, she would be the first call.
By Dondingo on Friday, March 08, 2013 - 08:41 am: Edit |
Shame the pics didn't come through?
That chick sounds a lot like a Carnival side show lol! Nice.
When my Colombian/Jamaican was done, I asked her how she came to acquire her sexual prowess. She responded that her mom was Jamaican and if a lady couldn't keep her man out of other women's beds, then everyone thought there must be something wrong with her. Can I get an amen people?
By Maxmojo on Friday, March 08, 2013 - 09:45 am: Edit |
Don,
Sent the pics to the admin to post. Amen to the Jamaican. If only Gringas would feel the same.
Watched a couple of my dates porn flicks online before meeting her. She won awards for anal and was known for her moaning. I can attest to both ;-)
By Admin on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 11:23 pm: Edit |
Photos integrated in Maxmojo post
By Dondingo on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 08:22 pm: Edit |
Update:
Still seeing the Colombian/Jamaican 1-2x/week. Going well and the sex is off the charts.
Like a snowball rolling down hill, my profile is gaining momentum. In addition to the steady sugar baby, I made time to take a model quality Jamaican out for dinner and a show. Full time college student, 22yo, who after much negotiation agreed that $200 was fair for me to spend the night. BBBJTC w/CIM followed by BBFS. Nice. She wants a regular arrangement too. We'll see.
The 18 yo highschool senior flaked out and missed our meeting. No worries.
Took a 34yo white chick to lunch and wound up making out in the restaurant. She showed me some nude photos of herself on her iPhone and we've made arrangements to get together in a week or so. She insisted the first one be 'on the house', lest she feel like a prostitute for accepting cash. Nice.
Not sure if anyone else is pursuing this venue with any success, but it's a really pleasant change from the clock watching traditional escort scene. Will ride this wave a while longer...
By Dondingo on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 11:34 pm: Edit |
Credit card bills from all the Christmas shopping must've arrived in the post this month, as I have never seen so many young birds flocking to meet a sugardaddy.
So little time...
By Lovingmarvin on Thursday, January 30, 2014 - 09:11 am: Edit |
"... Full time college student, 22yo, who after much negotiation agreed that $200 was fair for me to spend the night. BBBJTC w/CIM followed by BBFS".... heck that beats having to travel around the world, with all the added costs of the travel itself.
Sounds pretty good! Unfortunately not an option for me, due to my current local living situation.