| By Hot4ass2 on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 08:28 pm: Edit |
Received my passport on Tuesday and began looking into the U.S.A. Center for Disease Control recommendations for traveler vaccinations in Thailand and the temple region of Siam Reap Cambodia.
Damned if they don't recommend Yellow Fever, Hep A, Hep B, Typhoid, Japenese Encephalitis, Polio and Malaria treatments.
Some of these are several shots over several months and take up to 6 months to reach maximum effectivity.
What is the experience of fellow mongers in this regard. Did you get the shots or just take the chances?
I also saw an advertisment for HIV VACCINE TRIALS in Thailand. Anybody know what that is about?
| By Xenono on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 09:19 pm: Edit |
I've gotten Yellow Fever, Hep A, Hep B, Typhoid, Polio and a Measles, Mumps, and Rubella booster.
No reason not to get the Hep A shots. Shit, you live in Arizona (right?) and I think Arizona has the highest Hep A rate in the country. So not a bad idea regardless of international travel. If you plan on barebacking, Hep B is not a bad idea either.
I've never worried about Malaria and I don't know anything about Japanese Encephalitis.
I would get the Hep shots before you leave and finish the series of shots when you can. Perhaps the doctors on the board can correct me if I am wrong, but I think at least starting the series provides some immunity.
I think Typhoid needs to be boosted every 2 years or so.
The Pima County Health Department has international travel clinics where you can consult with a nurse and get the shots same day. Their vaccinations are not cheap, but not overly expensive for someone making an international trip.
http://www.co.pima.az.us/health/immunizations/travelclinic.html
| By Xenono on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
Here is a thread from 2001 to 2005 on the subject as well. LOL. I think Murasaki talked me out of the Malaria pills. And I never bought Medjet insurance either.
https://www.clubhombre.com/discus/messages/91/1965.html
| By Murasaki on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:03 pm: Edit |
The CDC has to cover their ass and thus everything is worst case scenario. I'm surprised Dengue Fever wasn't on there.
Here's my take for anyone hitting tourist locales, and not trekking into the jungles.
Everyone should have Hep A and B, and Typhoid. I'm assuming you already have Polio, as I thought that was a standard childhood shot.
Don't worry about Yellow Fever, Malaria or Japanese Encephalitis. Yellow Fever is not endemic to SEA; it's an SA and African malady. Odds of getting Malaria are very slim in the locales you'd be in, and the side effects of taking the pills could be detrimental. Chances of getting Japanese Enceph are extremely low. In fact, this is what the CDC says about it:
"Travelers: Japanese encephalitis vaccine is NOT recommended for all travelers to Asia. In general, vaccine should be offered to persons spending a month or longer in endemic areas during the trans-mission season, especially if travel will include rural areas."
| By Khun_mor on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:49 pm: Edit |
I don't think you will be exposed to Japanese encephalitis if you avoid Rainbow 2.
| By Wurldmonger on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 05:06 pm: Edit |
You can get a shot called Twinrix or something like that. It is a Hep A & B combo. It ends up being cheaper I believe than separate A & B shots, about $60/shot for 3 shot series, good for 10 years after the third shot. Typhoid is a good one to get, but it is only effective for 2 years, so you might want to get that one just before you go, ie. Two Weeks before to get the maximum value out of that shot. MMR booster might be a good idea as well, especially if you've never had Measles, Mumps or German Measles, and usually it is a free shot in most Public Health hospitals. Japanese Enceph is somewhat recommended, you might want to look at the cost of that, it is quite expensive. What I probably would spend the money on would be rabies shots, which are usually about $130 for a 2 shot series. Usually need to special order it, so call ahead to your Public Health hospital.
| By Khun_mor on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 08:09 pm: Edit |
If I'm dumb enough to barfine a girl with rabies I deserve to die . F**k if I'm going to get a rabies series just to go to SEA.
Maybe we should all just get one of those CDC suits in case Ebola breaks out .
Seems like the recomendations are leaning towards getting every friggin vaccination known to man !
They ain't building mongers like they used to !!
| By Catocony on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 08:27 pm: Edit |
In honor of this thread I promise to use a condom in at least on of my programs on my next Rio trip.
And I haven't even had a tetanus shot since 1995 - talk about living dangerously.
| By Copperfieldkid on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 08:33 pm: Edit |
Rabies shots, what the hell are you guys doing over there????????????????????????????????????
This sounds like the discussion about Boyz Town with all the livestock, deaf girls, horses, pigs, and the girl with no hands!
| By Blissman on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 09:39 pm: Edit |
Clearly, some of you guys have never had to survive the shame and discomfort involved in sweating out a bad case of distemper contracted from your average trophy-divorced twenty-something gringa pulled out of a moderate-to-snooty country club.
Six years since the last gringa, never doing that again. I might do go to vila mimosa but will never have sex with another woman I met within 5 miles of a golf course.
| By Khun_mor on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:48 pm: Edit |
As I said -- They are not building mongers like they used to .
The old guard now speaks out in the posts above!
I screwed my way thru Thailand for 15 years before I ever even considered a hep B shot let alone the paranoid shit you guys are recommending.
| By Phoenixguy on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:25 pm: Edit |
Rabies - yeah, I'll get that...if I'm planning on staying in a windowless hovel in a vampire-bat infested province.
But seriously, if you do somehow get an animal bite in the Philippines (no matter how seemingly trivial) a rabies series would be advisable:
"DoH records showed that Eastern Visayas registered 21 deaths from rabies, the fourth highest in the country, in 2006."
| By Copperfieldkid on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 09:25 am: Edit |
Khun Mor,
"They are not building mongers like they used to . ."
I believe that's the most profound statement I have read in a long time! LMFAO
| By Hot4ass2 on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:12 am: Edit |
RABIES: I know that the post infection series of numerous shots to the stomach is supposed to be very painful, but what is the down side of immunization? I could not find any negatives in the CDC report and it seems like a good idea anywhere that has a lot of stray dogs roaming around.
YELOW FEVER: Rio de Janero and Sao Paulo are not in the endemic zone, but all of Columbia is. So it seems like a good idea to get this shot out of the way. The CDC site said that Thailand would not let you in without it if your passport shows travel to endemic areas. Although a few people have died from the shot, very few survive the disease.
| By Catocony on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 01:07 pm: Edit |
Hot,
I think the general consensus is, while we may be concerned about catching colds and sore throats and whatnot, most of us aren't too concerned about catching rabies. Just relax and enjoy the vacation, you're not prepping for an invasion of Sierre Leon or something.
| By Khun_mor on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:14 pm: Edit |
If my potential barfine is foaming at the mouth I usually pass and move on to another girl .
Other than that -- I like my odds of not running into a rabid stray dog or bat .
| By Wurldmonger on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:54 pm: Edit |
I'm sure you guys have a lot of differing experiences in terms of mongering and travel. I do like to travel in the rural areas of whatever country I'm in. Have you seen the number of bats in Pangasinan! Prevention is always good, but if you wish to temp fate, that's your own decision to make.
I did forget to add Yellow Fever to that list, which is a one shot series good for ten years that is sometimes required by some countries.
Yeah, avoid women who are foaming at the mouth too.
| By Copperfieldkid on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
What ever happened to a simple "yeast infection",
those were the days............
| By Khun_mor on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:21 pm: Edit |
Isn't there a vaccine for that ??
| By Hot4ass2 on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 01:20 am: Edit |
Some of my women foam from the mouth, but others swallow.
| By I_am_sancho on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 05:47 am: Edit |
I know that amongst the Lao girls, a nice bat or two, some sticky rice and pa dek is considered good eatin'.
| By Don Marco on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:13 am: Edit |
I got a MMR as a child-- does that count?
In LoS, I medicate on Singha and the occasion antibiotic for a cold/sore throat (usually from the AC)...
| By Copperfieldkid on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 08:21 am: Edit |
This is obviously a DANGEROUS sport, I don't care what anybody says!
| By Khun_mor on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 09:47 pm: Edit |
Perhaps the monger of the future will travel to AC or Cambodia in a CDC isolation suit. Sex would consist of just whatever friction can be generated thru the suit.
Safe sex and really low risk of infection.
Would seem to assuage all the worry generated in this thread.
| By Sojourner on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:00 pm: Edit |
Aside from the usual childhood vaccines, I think in Thailand the only other thing worth considering is Hep A and B. You may not need a Hep A vaccination as there's a good chance you've already had it (about 1/3 of Americans have had a past exposure and developed immunity) but if you haven't had it and get a severe case of it, you can be out of commission with serious gastrointestinal distress for 2-4 weeks. Not a great way to spend your mongering holiday. On the other hand, if you are into unprotected sex, I'd certain recommend Hepatitis B. It has the same risk factors as HIV but you're at greater risk of picking that up than HIV. Of course, both are good reasons to keep a raincoat on the big guy in your pants. By the way, just because you've been dipping your wick in a lot of pooying without ever "catching Hep B" doesn't mean you haven't caught it. You can become a carrier without symptoms with the usual potential repercussions to others you may pass it on to. You can also have asymptomatic chronic infection from Hepatitis B, and after many years, end up with cirrhosis of the liver and followed by liver cancer. And spare livers aren't easy to come by.
| By Don Marco on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 09:17 am: Edit |
km, I thought I was covered with the kryptonite casing you recommended... these isolation suits sound expensive!
| By Hot4ass2 on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 02:03 pm: Edit |
HIV VACCINE: Merck & Co, Inc. just stopped a 13 month clinical trial today because it was not effective.
This study was co sponsered by something called HIV Vaccine Trials Network (HVTN). The article did not mention any alternative vaccine trials.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/09/17/daily32.html
| By Catocony on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 07:33 pm: Edit |
Well that would be a shitty clinical trial to be part of. "Sorry human guinea pig, you're HIV+ because our vaccine didn't work. Thank you for your support, here's a script for the anti-viral cocktail you'll be taking every day for the rest of your life".