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Catocony

It is not that I am not attracted to Orientals,
just not PI girls and most of the Thai girls. I think a couple of the girls with tits on Blazers homepad are hot. Also his old homepad pic which is gone now of another lineup. Additionally I have met several very pretty Japaneese girls.

I am just more attracted to enhanced Latinas.

(Message edited by maximus743 on June 20, 2005)

I think ultimately every man must decide for themselves what makes their dick hard. Asian ladies do it for me and total shocker, theres a shitload of them in Asia. Latinas do the trick for others. I have to admit despite a powerful Asian bias, them Brazilian garatoas made a POWERFUL impression on me. TJ is a place to stop by if it is nearby. It's quick and easy and there is plenty of fun to be had there but if you are putting allot of effort into going somewhere, decide which ladies suit you and fly around the world. It's cheap and easy these days.

Porker

BTW
I have not "ONLY" been to TJ
I have traveled to Europe several times. Just chose to enjoy non pros when there vs pay for play.

Maximus, if you haven't been there, you don't know what you're talking about. It's as simple as that. If you say you don't want to go for whatever reason, that's up to you, and you're right, you shouldn't listen to anyone else tell you how to spend YOUR time and money. But when you spout opinions about places you haven't ever been to and even give 'rankings', you sound foolish.

Porker I disagree totally but when was the last time we agreed?

Remember I am issuing opinions based clearly upon looks.

I don't need to go to the place if the pics and videos of the girls do not remotely look attractive to me to be able to issue an opinion of what I think of the girl's looks.

BEing there is always the best evaluation but intelligent opinions can be rendered without wasting time and money actually going to the place.


I have never seen the Tampa Bay Devil Rays play in person but I have seen video highlights and read their stats and newspaper reports and still can issue a ranking that they are one of the worst teams in Baseball.

BTW I said I voted against THailand based upon my own observations as well as counseling from other vet mongers. So I do value others opinions that know me and my likes.

Maximus...I will make a couple of small comments for whatever they are worth: I took a small trip to the DR recently mostly cuz some friends wanted to go and I had some days to burn. I would have never gone based on the pics I had seen and the monger comments re prices, etc. I ended up having a great time plus spending less than I had expected to for some pretty good quality (chicas).
I have only been to LOS once and I have to say that, no disrespect to anyone, you can certainly find -on average- better looking girls than many pictured here.

You already know this but for the sake of completeness I will remind you that despite the $$ for some of the better looking or more modest women it may still be worth more to protect their privacy than have pics of them taken by, often, a stranger.

And lastly, again no disrespect to anyone, the good/bad times had by some should not reflect the times that could be had by you. You may have better game, speak the language, be better looking, younger, nicer, have more $$...whatever and that surely could impact your overall session. These are factors that would likely not improve the level of play of the Devil Rays however... =)

So I say...check it out buddy. If nothing else you visit a new country and try some new food...

I am planning my next trip at the end of the year and still very much on the fence on where to go...PM if you are interested in discussing possibilities.

Laterz..

(Message edited by concarne on June 21, 2005)

Concarne

Thanks for the comments.

I'll PM you tonight.

Max, you should start your own section: Maximus' guide to mongering destinations. You could rank them all. Should be well worth reading. After all, YOU are the true expert, having mongered in Tijuana...

Interesting viewpoint Blazers.

TJ is not my top destination, but it is the most convenient for me, and I can have a lot of fun there.

I have been to Columbia, and will be returning soon, and have another destination I enjoy.

I have been spoiled in the past and I now find myself leaving TJ without working my lower abs more often these days, but I also enjoy other niceties - like an inexpensive massage, restaurants, liga, boxing and night clubs.

I don't try to cultivate any chicas, but I do try to quickly figure out if any can potentially rock my world and sometimes I am right.

I peek into CC to see if Gris has made a rare appearance almost evertime I go to TJ, and remember when Vanessa was in her prime and the girls there were worth the money spent. I also have been pleasantly surprised at times in TJ. It's not consistent but thats just the way it is.

Yes, I can't wait to enjoy the company of paisas again, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy TJ, especially when it's so fun and convenient.

Cheers All

Porker

Never said I was an expert

but I do have a sharp eye for a true girls looks and weight and my opinion of what looks hot seems to be very accurate especially in the Entertainment business where women use professionally done and touched up photos.

I'll say it again. Please come to TJ and recruit away more mongers for your beloved PI.

In summary it is just too convenient for me to go to TJ to bang a hottie and have some fun visiting friends male and female. So as much as I don't like TJ the city or the service, I cannot complain about the convenience and price of banging a Playmate type body.

It's in out and home in 8-12 hrs total time or less.
No missed work, no vacation time used, no missed softball games etc.

"banging a Playmate type body."

Where did you see one of those? Never, in all my trips to TJ, did I see a body (or face) that was worthy of an appearance in even the lower strata of the porn magazines, let alone Playboy.

I'll miss work, take vacation time, and skip all the softball games in the world in order to go elsewhere. I understand the pleasures of hanging with the guys, but after having traveled elsewhere, I view a $40 session in TJ as wasted money.

Exactly what "demographic" are you speaking of in Adelitas? The aging Portoguese guys who demand bareback from their overseas sessions then come back to Mexico and (perhaps) spread what they (might have) caught elsewhere? Or are you just playing your normal hand...race cards?

Never caught anything overseas TJ but I will leave the demographic shift up in the air. Suffice it to say it is a demographic that has now has AIDS in 1 out of every 50 of their males in the US...10 times greater than the next group. Facts are facts.

And btw, I never demand bareback. If they say no, the condom comes on. As far as aging goes, Im 36...not sure what your age is but I suggest to keep your shit talking to yourself unless you want a boot up your ass.

"in all my trips to TJ, did I see a body (or face) that was worthy of an appearance in even the lower strata of the porn magazines, let alone Playboy. "

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This is a joke, right? Man, there has to be an agenda here in the last couple of years. WTF? I think more users here simply prefere Asains' to Latinas'. I have had sex with three Flawless Perfect 10's -as in PERFECTO bodies in TJ thru the years. ANY porn publication would have a major jump in subscriptions if they could get the ladies to pose nude found in TJ. Have you actually walked in Adilitas, CC or roamed the Alley? Gezzuz.

Thailand Girls? Some were very polite and sweet, and had nice smiles.

I believe that AB's daytime Alejandra de Guadalajara has looks and a body that could grace Playboy. Ever see a model without make-up on? In the index here she is listed as Alejandra U. I have seen others that might also make the grade. JMHO

Metalboots,

Actually, I prefer latinas by a wide margin over Thais, Gringas, etc. I just think that TJ is where the worst latinas in the world go when they can't find work elsewhere. Have I been in Adelitas, CC, the alley, Tropicana, etc? I've been in them all...many, many, many times. So many times it depresses me to think about the wasted years and dollars. There was a time when I thought there were some 8s and 9s roaming around TJ, but a little travel killed that silly illusion. And setting aside appearances, the TJ chicas, on average, are the worst fucks in the world ("ju feeneesh jet?"). The best session I've ever had in TJ doesn't crack the top 100.

Safado69

You must doing SGs or hang out with the cows in LC or perhaps

ARe you temporarily suffering from amnesia?
You are truly joking.

First of all as most of know JUST ABOUT ANY DECENT LOOKING CHICK CAN BECOME AND BE MADE UP TO BE A PLAYMATE.

Most don't look nearly as good in person as in the Magazine.

I currently represent 4 Playboy PLaymates. I have met many more. I know a Playmate body. I have photographed many top girls that are on Escort websites.

You lose all credibilty if you do not think
Sylvia Matzalan or Deyanira CC or Fernanda -Monterey or several others do not have Playmate type bodies.

I will be going to Rio to check out the scene there and we will probably be in agreement about some there but I prefer LOOKS LOOKS LOOKS over service any day. THe chick with the belly and the droppy tits from an agency that calls itself Karla "MODELS" would cause extreme anger in me if that is what showed up at my door. Fat chicks can easily be found in TJ and I would even take a thin Asian over a fat Latina any day.

PI girls would have to pay me to fly there and then pay me to fuck them.

(Message edited by Maximus743 on June 23, 2005)

As thin as Sylvia is, her body is too large for Playboy and her face is not her best feature. Playboy has been going for more of the natural look in the last few years and girls with cartoon boob jobs dont stand a chance. Deyanira maybe. I could list off about 6 or 7 girls that would definately make Penthouse ceterfolds but Playboy, I just dont see it. I agree with one of the posters above that Alejandra de GDL is pretty damn close to Playboy material. She just needs someone to do something with her hair. Amazing that she has two kids and no stretch marks.

Maximus,

Different strokes for different folks. Nope, never done a SG. Always went with chicas considered the stars of AB and CC. I still don't see a Playboy model in the group. Sorry. We've got different tastes.

In Rio I session with several girls who not only could be in Playboy but HAVE BEEN in Playboy. One of my longtime favoritas was in the April 2005 issue, and she is a stunner. All the Brasilian guys refer to her as Britany Spears but she much more attractive that BS, and I'll bet she gives a vastly superior BBBJTC.

Come on down to Rio. I agree that many of the Karlas Models garotas are not that attractive, but they fuck like crazed animals. More importantly, there are loads of stunners that do so as well. I actually will take performance and attitude over looks (within a reasonable range; I wouldn't fuck Master Bates girls with my worst enemy's dick).

I always shake my head when I see guys pass up a great sexual experience with a "lesser" looking girl just to chase after one with "better" looks. I'll take the average-looking Brasil 6-7 (which is an 8-9 in the rest of the world) who will fuck and suck me to the point of death, then let me rest up and do it all over again, over some augmented bitch who gives shitty service and has a shitty attitude. I figure I've done perhaps 40 chicas in TJ over the years, and exactly two - Tania and a chica from CC a couple of years ago - gave what I would consider good service. Of the remaining 38, 6-8 have been ok and 30 I would never consider going with again, for any price.

Of the 70 or so I've been with in Brasil, I would do at least 50-55 of them any time, any place, and the other 15 weren't that bad. I think I've had a total of two bad terma runs - one at 4x4, one at Monte Carlo - and have had some weird but still good sessions with Help/club/wherever garotas.

Max, I think what Safado, who probably qualifies for a PHD in mongering, and some of us are saying is, TJ is great - if you've never been anywhere besides Mexico. Go on a few trips, get some truly great sessions in, then go back and reevaluate your perceptions on TJ. Metalboots, the same for you, and for all of the TJ crowd. Put down the saltines and start eating Ritz crackers, you may just deserve it. Sure, you'll still go back to TJ, it's better than jerking off (barely), but I think you'll quickly find better uses for your money than subsidizing some illiterate beaner's crystal meth habit.

subsidizing some illiterate beaner's crystal meth habit

What a guy...

Blazers, It's been 10 months since I've been to TJ and all I can tink of is my next trip to LOS in October. I was thinking that I'd give TJ another roll, but you've talked me out of it.

"Put down the saltines and start eating Ritz crackers."

I eat Wheat Thins myself. And I totally agree with you about the insanity of ignoring an eager 6-7 for the emptiness of 9-10.

Maximus743, maybe some of the mongers could donate tips to the Thailand girls so they can fly you there and pimp you out. (Anything is possible). I dig the bodies of TJ girls. Not the fat ones, but the thick ones (some guys don't see a difference). I don't think a flame war will solve anything; it never does. Therefore, I want to contribute something useful...

Fuckos: Tell one of the waiters that you want a girl. They will tell her in Spanish (not a language spoken in most of Asia). My experience is the girls are VERY willing to get away from these guys.

Catocony...WTF is up with the "illiterate beaner's crystal meth habit" comment?????

Concarne,

It's fairly self-explanatory.

Self-explanatory = You're an ignorant redneck.

Yes, everyone who has met me would say I'm as country as can be.

I've had a bunch of stuff to add to this thread but kept putting it off until I got a decent break to sit down and write out my thoughts more fully. But I'm still busy, so I'm just going to add a bunch of short comments, at least that's my intention, we'll see how it turns out.

Starting from the top:

re: Blazers 1st post -
1. Thursday has gotten pretty bad over the last year or so. I've always hated Fridays and Saturdays, now it's difficult for me to do Thursdays and Sundays. Sundays lag because so many girls are worn out by Thu-Sat and do not show. Wednesday seems to be the only good day to me on balance, but my last two Wednesdays were pretty lame.
2. CC still has talent, but it is hurting. Sonia and Deyanira are among the hottest TJ has to offer and neither is high volume. Unfortunately, Sonia quotes high and both have subdued personalities.
3. I used to disagree and not have many problems with girl hoarders at CC, but with less talent I guess I am starting to notice it more now. I've seen it with white guys too, but it does seem to be more with some cliquish Asian groups (I don't know if they're Vietnamese) that spend hours with them.
4. LC and BT are rolls of the dice, when I see girls I like it either one, they always seem to be hoarded by locals for hours. More often than not, I can't find anyone I like, though.
5. HK is timing, sometimes the talent level is really good, but often it isn't. Overall HK is still good for rotation.
6. I've long thought Smith has stepped into the realm of cartoonish looks, amazingly she's still one of the most popular girls.

Oh, re: fat girls

There have been an influx of some attractive overweight girls recently. There's a really cute new blond at the back of HC by the name of Valeria (not yet in my roll calls). Erica (J) and her blond friend whose name I do not know hang at the front of HC. Lorena (F) is more Amazon than fat, but either way she's too big for many. Valentina has a gorgeous face, but she's just really plumped up over the past few months. I could go on and on, but many of the others I do not have names for or are not that new.

A related topics that I find surprising that has not been discussed much is the incidence of liposuction and tit jobs compared to the rest of the world. In the 10 or so countries I've visited, TJ is the clear leader with maybe Argentina a distant second. Percentage wise, I would guess 70%+ of TJ girls (90%+ if you limit to the popular girls) have tit jobs, liposuction, or both. In the countries I have visited, I would guesstimate below 15%, and much less for countries in Asia. In short, if she's not fat in TJ, it's usually because of surgery. Note that these procedures take physical and mental tolls on the girls, and consequently, their overall attractiveness.

My first overseas trip was to Thailand and the PI. I had an experienced travel buddy, but did not have a site like this one to prepare. I had a few spectacular experiences which well exceeded my TJ visits thus far, but I also had some problems. I loved Thailand, thought the PI was OK, but still enjoyed TJ pretty much the same. (although the girls did seem much fatter when I got back)

My next trip was to Costa Rica. This time I didn't have a travel buddy, but I did have a gameplan and some basic expectations from web research. This trip was a blast all around. I loved Costa Rica and found TJ a bit more disappointing when I returned. What I noticed this time was that the TJ girls wore too much makeup and looked too unnatural.

My Brazil trip ruined TJ for a while. Brazil set a new standard of tight bodies (even if some tits were small) and sexual aggressiveness that the previous destinations couldn't come close to. I often hear fans from Mexico, Asia, and almost everywhere else say "but I get DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc...where I currently go...how could Brazil possibly be better?" All I can say is that it has to be experienced to be believed. I'm also one of MANY world travelers that say the same thing.

Fortunately for me, I have since learned to adjust my expectation when I visit TJ (often) so that I usually enjoy myself most of the time. Getting laid by a slutty TJ girl is better than spanking the monkey at home, plus I get to update my count on my 4-digit quest.

To use a food analogy like I've used in the past, I don't go to Burger King looking for Filet Mignon. Although I prefer fine steaks by a wide margin, I still thoroughly enjoy my Big Macs because my expecations are in line with what BK serves.

Now if you're eating at fine steakhouses regularly or have too often, it can be a little more difficult to adjust your expectations, but it's completely doable and worth it if TJ is convenient for you. It will always beat eating cheeze and crackers at home.

I'll second Curious' agreement w/ what Porker said:
I have had some fantastic times in TJ, and I think they are still available, for the most part. But you have to put a lot of time, effort OR money into it, and you still ain't likely to get super-model quality looks. Asia is certainly a much better deal if you can manage to break free from the daily mongering bug that enslaves people to Mexico, like it did to me for several years. I'd comment about South America being better as well, but as yet I haven't had the privilege.

And regarding attractiveness, note some of Wallstreet's statements who visited TJ AFTER traveling in Asia and Latin America:
I've only been to TJ once, last fall and I was surprised by a few things. I thought there were plenty of attractive doable girls, and I was shocked at the attractiveness of the SGs

Metalboots, as I mentioned in PM before, I was both surprised at your choice of Thailand and believe that you didn't have a strategy suitable to your needs. Sure, I think you followed the advice of some of the regulars, but I don't think they know your tastes and needs as well as I might.

Regarding choosing Thailand: Obviously you know you like Latinas, I don't recall a post from you describing much interest in Asians. Then why go to Asia when Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, and a number of other countries seem more suitable to your tastes? On top of that, why go somewhere a full day's flight away when you have only one week?

Your trip report suggested to me that you only checked out the go-go and beer bar scene. Knowing what I know of your tastes, I would have suggested the soapies and sideline girls. The look is a LOT different, more in line with Western standards, plus the girls need to keep their service standards up in order to continue working. IMHO, soapies are like the second best P4P experiences in the world behind Brazilian Termas. Going to Thailand without going to a soapy is like sending someone to TJ and having them only visit bars like Tropical and Las Chaveles (and bypassing AB/CC/HK completely). TJ vets might make the most of a BT/LC rotation, but you wouldn't send a TJ newbie to those places and have them skip the main bars.

Besides the above, there are also other factors you left out in this thread that are very relevant to what you've based your opinion on.

1. Something upsetting happened just prior to your trip.
2. You got food poisoning the first day.
3. You stopped looking after your 3rd experience.

Now I can confirm one observation in particular of yours. A hardcore party atmosphere like at AB and HK seems to me to be somewhat rare throughout the world. A more common barscene would be like at CC. Travelers to countries overseas are on average a lot different than your common border-walking TJ regular, less smoking, less drinking, and less yelling. This is particular might make TJ more appealing to you.

If you enjoy TJ, why not continue to enjoy it? I enjoy it too.

However, don't be surprised when you read about other people being disappointed in TJ after visiting other countries, this happens on EVERY website that discusses sex overseas that is not TJ-focused. If you want I can PM you a list of such sites, the TJ complaints are not unique to this one.

Yes, I was actually hanging with WS most of that night and we did see some hotties. It was my first trip in about a year.

Back in the 90s, you may remember the sister duo of Leticia and Vanessa. I actually took Vanessa's pic onetime and can't find it, but damn was that gal smoking (face and body), as was her sister. So yes, TJ did offer up some real gems.

oh...forgot to add...

Unfortunately, this site has too much of a different demographic to have any affect on TJ visits. In reality visitors to AB/CC and TJ in general will likely grow, possibly exponentially. With TJ being so convenient and the information on prostitution there so easy to find, that's the more likely result. Personally I can hardly stomach Thursdays now because of the crowds, it will get even worse as more and more locals learn about it...

Maximus said THe only thing that would be IGNORANT is WASTING THOUSANDS of dollars going to THailand against my evaluation of thousands of pictures and videos of Thailand and PI girls and going against Veteran World mongers who have counseled me who know my type.

Assuming that I am one of the "Veteran World mongers" that told you you shouldn't go to Thailand, I'll have to disagree with your statement about accurately being able to evaluate the level of talent in Thailand and the PI based on thousands or even tens of thousands of photos and videos. I'd feel confident that I could lead you to girls you'd like in numbers several times over what you could find in TJ, the difference is we might need to spend more time looking and we'd be hitting different places than many of the SEA regulars here. Definitely a different itinerary than MB had. The percentage of girls you were attracted to would be much lower, but the scale of available girls is probably more than you could realistically imagine, kind of like if you had an AB on both sides of the street the full length of Revolution.

Of course, I still wouldn't recommend SEA for you, but for a different reason than you probably think. It has more to do with your perceptions than with your taste in girls which I think you've told me I have a pretty good handle on.

You're already convinced that you wouldn't find what you like in SEA. Almost like unrealistic expectations, this viewpoint going into an Asia trip would have a substantial negative affect on your experience. If you go anywhere, you should go to South America, I'm not even sure why you would read any of the Asia threads or look though those photos.

If you were someone I knew with similar visual tastes but didn't have a strong bias and preconception against SEA, my recommendation would be different.

Funny, this was by far my shortest trip report out of 28 or so and it has had the most responses..even responses to responses..go figure

Based on Safado's $40 quote, I assume it's been a while since he's been to TJ.

Honestly, there are some stunners like Sylvia (D) |PHOTO| and Sara (A) |PHOTO| whose photos hardly do them justice. However on average they do wear a TON of more makeup and have artificially enhanced bodies where are hardly as common in the rest of the world. My main complaint when I return to TJ from overseas is that the girls look too fake to me, but after a couple of days I readjust and come to appreciate prostitutes that look more sluttish than then do in other countries.

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MB, I can see you've missed on many discussions regarding Asians vs Latinas as you might have surmised from the other topic I posted in earlier today linking to the photo topic. Usually it's always the SEA fans that are complaining about South American fans about a bias AGAINST Asians. I don't believe it's due to bias, but the actual numbers are clearly far more in support of that theory than users here preferring Asians over Latinas. However, since you used the word "agenda" I think I know who you've discussed this with to have come to that conclusion. As mentioned above, the arguments are similar on every non-TJ focused site, not just this one.

I just can't understand why my lovely and sweet Chicas from Mexico are seemingly always at the bottom of the totum poll here. This used to be a TJ site, and now it's a world site; which is fine, things change. I have read about piss poor sevice and attitude's being poor in comparrison to other destinations; thats fine too. You're right, I like the party attmosphere. I like Beer being tossed around, arms flayin' around, drunk chicas, loud chicas screaming at eachother about horriscopes and K-Mart catalogs, the greasey food and even the "seedy" Hong Kong Floor Shows with open fondling and groaping. (I especially like the groaping) I am more about a happy, energetic, young, sickly skinney chica then a perfect face; and can confirm that I have had good luck with attitudes of Mexican chicas. I adore them. I won't rant about American Girls, a total waste of my time, but I guess I feel "hurt" that my Mexican Girls are seen as so "Cheep and Low" here. Some of them are real sweethearts as well. I have gotten a SG (who will remain nameless) to do freakey things with me that only a drunken' whiteboy like me would request. She trusts me since we have been in the cama over 10X before. Lots of the AB HC chicas are indeed just brutal, like American girls, but maybe I should be happy I have been able to break thru the barriers of some of the SG's or CC chicas. (Yes, I still pay...)

Im here and on TJA thats it for the websites so I'll take your word that CH is not specifically predjudiced. You're right, why am I even questioning a "good time," I really like TJ and fit-in well. I drink moderatly to heavy when I'm there and Maybe in the near future Brazil will call me, and from the pics' and your experiences there it does look kewl! Nice young hard bodies with big butts and sickly skinney! True, I will miss the Music, Beer Spewing, Raunchy Floor Shows, Assorted Nuts for a dolla' and Tacos a Pastor or Asada, and chicas Yelling at the messero's to hury up to the table for a Ficha order as it happens in TJ, but I am not going to be a TJ only monger forever.




(Message edited by metalboots on June 25, 2005)

ClubHombre was spawned from Redsnake, and the early emphasis was on Mexico in general, TJ in particular. At this time, I would argue that it's primarily a South American and Asia board with good coverage of Central America, a little of Europe and a huge amount of historical Mexico information that hasn't seen much new in a while. That's not to say that CH is no longer a good place for info on Mexico - things don't really change that fast in Mexico, so info from a few years ago is still amazingly accurate.

However, what this means is that most of the new subject matter and the folks reading it are not focused on Mexico. I would argue that many of you got started in the hobby in Mexico (Asia for me), and just like anything else, you remember your experiences there that in retrospect do not compare to what you're currently involved in. All of us used to think that the ZN was awesome, but at this point, it's either old news or just not that great compared to the alternatives.

Yep...those were good times, but as Blazers noted up top, TJ is a great place for novices. Actually, I think it's mainly a convenient place for novices. I have fond memories of that early period in my mongering career, but would have been happier if I'd bypassed TJ and discovered some of the other places (Rio, San Jose, Buenos Aires, BKK, Pattaya, Cartagena, etc.) first. The only thing I recall fondly from TJ is the guys I met (good people) and some of the funny times with the chicas. But I really don't have fond memories of the sex other than in a purely nostagic "popped my monger cherry" sense.

And, yes, d'Artagnan, it's been awhile since I sessioned in TJ. Sessions are over $40 now (except with the SGs), which is another reason I pass on TJ. If I view $40 sessions to be a waste, you can guess what I think of $60 sessions. There are a slew of agencies with girls for 100 reais (about $40) for two hours in Rio, and those girls are every bit as into the sex as I am. Never once, truly, have I had that experience in TJ.

I went to TJ a couple of years ago but couldn't bring myself to do it (i.e., pull a chica and head to the hotel). My standards are different now (not necessarily better, but certainly different) and I didn't find a single chica of interest despite looking for hours. So now I don't even waste the time driving down to TJ.

Well, in similar fashion, when I went to Monterrey the first few times, I was BLOWN THE HELL AWAY! The strip club girls are FAR hotter than the TJ girls (don't get excited Max, I mean CONVENTIONALLY attractive -- younger, firmer and more natural looking), and available at a fraction of the price if you don't mind fucking in a dark closet.

But after I went to Asia, as many others have said here, the Mexican girls seemed 1) FAT 2) OLD 3) REALLY, REALLY, REALLY expensive, and 4) They had HORRIBLE attitudes. YEAH, there's the odd Mexican chick that will promise you the moon and claim she wants your baby and TEASES YOU with a half-assed GFE, but half the time she's also insisting on BULLSHIT like a covered BJ. Terrific GFE with a true hottie is indeed still easily available in Monterrey, but, like in TJ, you invest in it with either time, ficha drinks, expensive outside the bar session fees, or, MOST LIKELY, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Re: Looks, Mexican GIRLS are almost universally EXCEEDINGLY attractive. But the 'carbo bomb' and the post-partem bomb are a deadly combination. By the time the average Mexican chick hits 25, she's waaaaay past her sell-by date. As D'art mentions, surgery tends to be the average Mexican bargirl's solution to such problems. Personally, I can't STAND the results of that strategy.

Unfortunately for US, the average chica in Mexico is exceedingly unlikely to enter the p4p scene until some life-altering tragedy occurs, something that rarely happens before her 20th birthday or first child. In Angeles City a 21 year old mother is approaching retirement age.

For those of you that think Mexico is the be-all and end-all of mongering, GOOD FOR YOU. You're fucked in the head, but as Kurt Cobain once said, "I think I'm dumb, but maybe just HAPPY!"

Porker, I wouldn't be quoting anything from Kurt Cobain.

Being serious for a moment, you are maybe one this board's best examples of someone who pretty much started in TJ and was a major promoter of the place. Then it became Monterray where I can remember long posts about how you would take the bus from Santillo, slum around as long as possible and then head home. And then came the day when you went to either AC or BKK. I forget which came first. But it changed you forever. And I am betting that you would never go back. Right?

Club Hombre evolved from Red Snake which itself was a spin off from a board that dealt mostly with the Reno/Carson City brothels. Red Snake was originally a user and a pro who got in a cat fight with the other pros on the Reno board. She wanted to continue talking about Nevada but no filthy disgusting talk about kissing and BBBJs and things like that. Red Snake, the guy, discovered TJ and history took a turn in the road.

Most of us have hopped on board somewhere along the way. I go back to the World Sex Guide which informed me that the massage parlors in Sacramento were more than just a massage. It was like taking a drug for the first time. You are a little hesitant and rightfully so. And then you have a great time. But you can never go back.

Indeed, we all have our histories. I stared with the old alt-sex-prostitution and ASP-TJ, migrated to WSG then to WSA and finally to CH. With those migrations my traveling radius also expanded, and TJ is just no longer on the route map I use.

Catocony....I am sorry that you cannot rise above your upbringing. I just hope that at some point you gave it a good try and that you are not hurting anyone with that attitude.

Too bad!

Concarne,

If I had any idea what you're talking about, I would be able to respond to you better.

d'Artagnan,
Just a quick word of thanks in your kind comments regarding fat girls. It makes me feel that I'm not alone in my admiration for the weight-challenged chica that many other countries have to offer.

BTW, I don't mind chicas of a heavy-set nature as long as their plump and pretty. For example, in Hermosillo, Sonora, I have seen some of the most hidious, disgusting, fat toothless beasts who actually had the audacity to try and proposition me for sex! You should have seen these women to believe it! I should have taken some pics at least just to prove there are some real vile, horrible females in certain other parts of the world.

But as for TJ, I've seen some very attractive heavy women there lately, One especially comes to mind who works the afternoon shift at AB, (can't think of her name off-hand) but she has a pleasant sweet sincere smile and a huge (and I do mean HUGE) ass.

Master Bates.