Running CH is an interesting job with some unusual costs and benefits. One of the more enjoyable benefits is the opportunity to travel more often than most. I've taken advantage of this benefit and have been able to travel quite extensively. I recently returned from an overseas trip.

One of the costs is the challenge of running a very high-maintenance site (planned to be detailed in the hopefully near future) that is essentially "open" 24 hours/day, 7 days/week, 365 days/year. Fortunately I have some assistance from HombreJR, but I still work virtually 365 days/year with the only times I'm not on the site within a 24 hour period is when I'm in transit to farther destionations. Nevertheless, I still manage to do some work nearly every numerical day of the year and have done so for the past four years. I would estimate I've missed a numerical date less than 10 times in the past four years. That takes a lot of dedication.

Another cost is a very strong need for privacy. For this reason you will not see a typical report by Hombre. Nor has anyone ever seen or will ever see a public posting of my intineraries. I've put a lot of effort into enabling remote administrtion of the site to make my travel transparent. When I work, I may be at home, at an internet cafe, or in an airport lounge.

However, recent activity has encouraged me to post Hombre's first trip report now that I've caught up with the backlog of work that stacked upwhile I was gone. It'll not be a typical trip report as it will be thoroughly vague on hobbying details. Instead I'm posting this as I thought it might be interesting insight for members to understand my perspective on running CH and traveling a lot at the same time. I also thought it'd be a good example of making the most out of a trip that goes wrong.

Frequent travel has streamlined and improved my preparation and strategies for travel. I've been lucky to have many of my trips run very smoothly. I guess the law of averages finally caught up with me on this trip.

Saturday
I finished my packing preparations Saturday afternoon, almost 24 hours before my flight and the earliest I have before a trip. Besides all the normal stuff that most people have to do to meet their local obligations (family, mail, etc...), I also have to "prep" the site to minimize the maintenance work that we do on a daily basis. Part of this includes extended account reviews (Hombre Plus, Hombre, Guest), preparation and queueing of daily photos for full vacation period, and confirming all necessary archiving is as up to date as possible. I also spent much of my Saturday doing additional research as I was visiting a country very rich for update potential.

A little tiff broke out on one of the chat boards. The flames were rather tame for CH and would normally not be much of a consideration for me at this point, however this situation was unique in that it was primarily between two highly liked and respected reporters from different sections of the site. Furthermore the timing was bad since I was flying out the next day. I PM'd ReporterA early Sat evening with my observation that his recent postings seemed unproductive and that his speculations on ReporterB were mistaken. I didn't not make the request, but ReporterA volunteered to drop the subject. A couple of flames followed from ReporterB's friends, but like he said, ReporterA didn't add fuel to the flames.

I anticipated this was the end of a relatively minor flame fest, so I continued with my preparations. I stay up most of the night both to get as much additional research done as possible and also to make myself tired for the plane rides ahead of me. They always go much faster when I'm asleep. Unfortunately, I start to feel that sense of physical unease that I usually do before I'm getting sick. I add a strip of Nyquil caplets, a strip of Dayquil packets, and a box of Sucrets to my bags. I also decide to get at least a little sleep to help fight it off, but only about three hours worth.

Sunday
When I woke up early Sunday I saw that the flame fest had not been fully averted. ReporterB had come back with another flame, but upped the ante by encouraging his friends to send unwanted PMs. I was pretty sure ReporterA was not going to shrug off the PM suggestion and I could see this developing into a section vs section flame fest, again an especially unwelcome prospect during a trip when I would have limited availability. After some careful consideration I decided to remove ReporterB's new flame with the PM suggestion, but left the other ones alone. I took as much care as possible in crafting a polite and diplomatic message to ReporterB informing him of my PM to ReporterA and that I didn't expect ReporterA to direct any more flames at him or to that section of the site.

I considered issuing a notification to my moderators to keep a closer eye on that section of the site, but instead I was optimistic that the situation was resolved. I decided to keep my traveling transparent (I've never notified my moderators when I traveled in the past). I then called for my cab pickup an hour later. Ninety minutes after that I'm boarding the plane to my hub city at about the same time ReporterB sends a response to my PM.

En route to my hub city I was feeling a bit more uncomfortable as I felt some kind of illness continuing to approach. I tried to think positive to help my body fight it off. During my last trip I started to get cold symptoms half-way through, but managed to fight it off without it progressing to a full-blown cold.

I arrived at the hub city and made it into the airline lounge about 4 hours later. I purchased a day pass on my laptop and log on to see the flame fest had grown, except now I was being targeted for not being responsive during the time I was in the air. The combination of circumstances managed to ignite me, making it increasingly difficult for me to read, much less type on the smaller keyboard of my slim notebook. I was further upset out of concern for the predicatable effect this was going to have on my health, and consequently my final trip for the year.

Part of me wanted to scream over the internet that I cannot access ClubHombre while I'm on a plane, but it wasn't an option. I would continue to maintian my traveling a secret for now. However, over the coarse of postings and PMs during my layover I would decide to break tradition and issue a request for increased vigilence to my moderators. My temperament wouldn't allow me to issue the request directly as I could get little done in that state, I didn't even get to check my email nor the Support Database as I would usually do. I just finished some moderating tasks when the announcement came that my flight was boarding, 10 minutes after my scheduled boarding time. I appeared to be last to board the plane by the time I got there.

From my seat I called HombreJR to ask him to make the email list request to the moderating team. I was a bit uncomfortable explaining the situation in this public location, but felt I had little choice. HombreJr also didn't have computer access at the moment and wouldn't for several more hours. He was going to try to spend more time monitoring the site and I told him I would try to get online as soon as I can after I arrived, not the most pleasant of ways to start my vacation.

The international flight wasn't one of my longest, but it seemed like it. I noticed what seemed to be like an unusally high number of people coughing. I'm not quite sure if it's usually like this or I was just noticing it because I was starting to feel worse myself.

Monday
It was Monday when I arrived at my destination. My symptoms were not at their worst yet, but I finally realized that the illness was going to be unavoidable. I would spend this entire trip at least partially sick. I wasn't happy about this at all.

My ride was ready and waiting when I arrived, so my trip to my lodging accomodations went smoothly. After an unusually long check-in, I hooked up my laptop for the dreaded but anxious return to the site. I wasn't happy with the additional flames, but I managed. I spent the next several hours working when I would normally be relaxing. I got what I could done and took some photos of the place before heading out to purchase a chip for my tri-band phone. On the way to the store I stopped by a nice view which I decided to take a photo of, only to discover during this short period of time in my pocket that my camera had broken, the switch to change from Play to Record no longer worked. I can't find the mobile phone store and instead spent the next hour fiddling with the camera. Fortunately, I was able to pry the camera partially open figure out how to work the switch using my key.

I took public transport to another part of town where I found my chip. I then visited a nearby spa with a wet sauna. I was hopeful that the heat and humidity would help with my symptoms, attitude, and overall health. I got a couple additional hours sleep at the spa and some relief, but it didn't 't work as effectively as I had hoped. I stopped by a McDonalds (my sense of taste is dulled) for dinner. I'll leave the reporting of the rest of my meals out as I would only eat elsewhere besides McD's several times during the rest of the trip, why spend more money when I can't enjoy the food much? I then returned to my room to do some more monitoring and work.

My libido is depressed, I'd estimate my health at about 60%, but I would still manage to have an enjoyable time that evening. I accomplish much less research-wise than I normally would, but I did what I could given my condition.

I worked again when I return at night. I normally am not on the site this much while I'm traveling. I generally don't consider it the best use of my limited time and usually far from necessary under normal circumstances.

Tuesday
My symptoms were worse (50%) and consequently I didn't sleep as well as I should have, but I still got out of bed rather quickly to return to the site. After doing some work for the day with intermittent returns to bed, I headed to the spa again. I didn't get as much relief as the previous day, but again I got some needed rest.

I feel the need to check the site again, but I didn't want to spend all this time in my room. I ended up stopping by three internet cafes, but all three had ClubHombre blocked. The filter at one cafe was so restrictive it even managed to block a news article I wanted to read about politics. I wasn't about to research the whole city, so I figured I was just going to have to work from my room.

Despite feeling crappy, I managed to pull off another enjoyable evening. I impressed myself somewhat by being able to pull it off without letting on that I was sick (to the best of my knowledge). My timing of medication, cough drops, and sheer will in repressing my symptoms seemed to work almost miraculously. I returned to my room after the short charade, obviously sick again.

I'm a little bummed tonight because it's been two full days and I've still yet to research anyplace new, but I needed my rest and increased monitoring of the site.

Wednesday
Symptoms and health are about the same. I continued to check the site as religiously as before, but I soon decided not to let the site problems consume my entire vacation. I reminded myself that I do the best that I can on the site and why I was where I was. I withdrew from some of the arguing still going on privately and publicly and decide to let HombreJr manage like he normally would.

I made my daily visit to the spa and almost convince myself that I'm recovered while awakening from my post-sauna nap, but the symptoms soon returned after getting up. Still I felt better, at least partially from getting away from the negativity of the site administration and moderating issues.

Wednesday night I managed to research some new locations. This was great, but unfortunately during this research I inhaled far too much secondhand smoke. I knew what was going to happen, but in my focus and dedication on gathering this info I ignored it. I had a decent time, but I dreaded what I knew was coming the next day.

Thursday
As expected, my symptoms changed. Fortunately they didn't compound, but seemed to move from my sinuses to my chest. I still had a little congestion, but now the main problem was a penetrating cough aggravated by all the thick smoke from the night before, plus I was feeling weaker. I now felt about 40%. I felt too tired to go to the spa and didn't think the sauna would make much of a difference for my cough, so I spent most of the day in bed.

Fortunately, the additional bed rest helped. It took the entire day, but I made a turnaround by the evening to get back up to about 60%. I got some good additional research done this night.

Friday On
Over the rest of my trip I would get progressively better, but not to above 80% until the final day of my trip. Still, I was able to research all my primary locations while gathering some valuable information and enjoyable experiences.

I had a lot of work upon returning, but it was manageable and actually not as bad as it had been earlier in the site's history when things weren't as automated and processes weren't as refined.

This was my roughest trip to date, but I'm appreciative of the fact that I managed to salvage what research and enjoyment I could from a trip that started out so negatively while being sick the entire time. To this day I still have a slight lingering cough, but otherwise I'm pretty much at full health.

I guess it's at a safe enough point now to notify the moderating team that "HombreJr and I are no longer both on limited availability." That's about as close as I had HombreJr come to announcing that I was away on vacation.

Here's to the hobby, may your adventures run more smoothly than this.

So who did you screw ?

Hombre, I guess a lot of us, including myself, often take all that you and Hombre Jr. do on this board for granted. I'm glad we got a flavor for what you guys go through to keep this site up and running. Now I'm more motivated to do the little things to help, like prepping my photos before sending them in for posting in between STs :-)

I'm a member of a lot of boards and unexpected glitches and roughhousing are the norm there. I hope CH never gets to a point where the content is 90% flames/grandstanding and 10% content like many other boards. Thanks again for creating a forum that's addicting, a source of life-long friendships, and one of the best resources for our hobby.

Ditto Merlins sentiments. I remember well the transition you made from being TJ Hombre to becoming one of the most famous internet sites for adult male travel.

You have avoided many of the traps the other sites have fallen into and remain one of the best sites for information on traveling destinations on the internet. The occasional banter and infrequent colorful characters are a source of laughs for many. YOu have managed to maintain any flame wars at a respectable level.

Keep up the good work and may your next trip be more enjoyable.

As for the events while you were traveling, in a month or two they will be forgotten as we move onward in our quest for gorgeous women.

Where were you BTW?

Sandman

Hombre,

I would like to thank you for your hardwork and dedication. If it wasnt for your site, I would have never known that this whole other world existed.

Your site has changed my life in many positive ways. I used to have a problem in my life in that I spent entirely too much time (and cash) trying to find new dates and girlfriends. Each time I had a serious girlfriend, I would cheat on her and eventually she would find out thus ruining the relationship. I had too much curiosity and libido, it just wouldnt go away.

Now that I have been on some trips, I am fully under control. I can concentrate on my career, the world and a serious woman (no serious woman yet, haha). When and if a serious woman does come into my life, then I definately wouldnt cheat as my curiosities have been lived out at these foreign destinations.

I hope you feel better. I can relate to your sickness as it happens to me whenever I go on one of these trips. I have not ever had high fevers until I started visiting these foreign destinations. My advice to all is to find a doctor immediately when any symptons start to show. Many guys want to hold back going to the doctor, but its best to go immediately as these sicknesses tend to get worse not better.

My opinion is that you should have a very low tolerance for those that choose to flame. Suspend them from the site for a month, issue strongly worded warnings, etc. There is no place for flames here and it really discourages people from posting trip reports.

We are all adults here. Therefore, we should be able to discuss our opinions in a mature manner. When someone posts a trip report or other message, each one of us should be able to respect it even though we may strongly disagree with the content.

I hope you feel better. Your work is strongly appreciated here and I hope this site will be up for many years to come. Many thanks once again.

where's the pictures?


" " Merlin's post.

ty bud.

-dm

Sorry to hear that your little getaway was so challenging. I guess we here on the board forget that you are a member of our community and not just a faceless administrator. Here's to hoping your next trip is a better one!

Val

Hey, you need a vacation.

Yeah Hombre, where did you go "spa:-)wning"? Enquiring minds want to know!

Merlin, no need for you or anyone else to adjust anything for photos. It's a little time consuming, but most of the preparation you would be unable to do as much of it is background data entry we need to do on our system. Well, the only thing that might be helpful is to make sure photos are titled and properly labeled. Making up names or trying to match them to names in copy adds time.

There is a lot of stuff that can be done which we could use volunteers for. I've actually long been trying to get that going, but that takes time and preparation too.

One generic thing we need help with is the creation of Guide Reports for areas that currently do not have guides. To pull up existing guides, click TripReports on the left menu, then click Guides along the top. Next click the Location button to sort by country and it should be easy to see which cities/countries we still do not have guides for. Even if not an expert, we encourage anyone and everyone to take a shot at writing a guide not currently existing for a country one has a reasonable amount of information on. Guides can always be updated and improved, but we need more starting points.

Ironeagle

I think my philosophy and techniques in moderation have served CH reasonably well. Moderation policy is a much more complex issue than most people realize. I utilize a mostly hands-off approach while balancing speech, legal, communal, and other issues in determining when and how to intervene.

A hardline approach is not my style at all and CH has done well without one. IMHO, the problems rarely arise out of policy, but from individuals who intend to disrupt, or do not understand how message forums should operate.

Re: the sickness, that's a very common problem that may affect all of us. I'll have to review the Men's Health sections. We could really use good information on prevention and dealing with colds/flu exposure while traveling. I forgot to write about it, but I had some difficulty dealing with the pharmacists on this trip.

TightFit

It's a funny (and not funny) thing.

I vacation much more than most people in the world, yet work almost everyday of my life and cannot get away from my work. There are also a number of other strong costs/benefits related to running CH. I enjoy many benefits that many men dream about, but I doubt most would be willing to pay all of the costs if they really understood them.

Hombre,

In my opinion, the best and worst thing is the cliques and groups of people. Its good that people can get together and have a good time. However, within those cliques are those individuals who are not mature and want to be disruptive. These individuals post obviously rude and confrontational messages in trip reports and on the general chat. When someone responds back to this disruptive individual, then an all out fight begins as that individual's gang wants to come out and defend this obviously disruptive individual.

You are in a position to observe every individual on this board and I know that you are a very intelligent mature man with keen insight. If you observe a pattern developing where a certain individual or gang is constantly being a disruptive force, wouldnt it be best to at least discuss the matter privately with that individual or gang instead of letting the situation develop more seriously?

I have witnessed on many occasions a pattern develop with certain individuals. When material is posted that these individuals disagree with, they reply back in a highly caustic manner. Ultimately, their gang starts to chime in as well.

I have been on many trips, but have not posted so many trip reports. The reason is because of the caustic messages that a few disruptive individuals post within the reports. These instances are indeed rare and isolated, but seem to have occurred on more than a few occasions especially recently.

For example, in my most recent report, one individual stated that the manner that I presented my report was "weird" and that I was "pissing in the wind" in stating my opinion in regards to the hotels. If I were a lot younger, I would have gotten truly angry and replied back in a profound manner. However, I kept my cool and carefully worded my response so as not to start an all out gang war.

Its hard for me to understand why these individuals, aged 40+, would desire to create flames and disruptive messages on a website that is mainly designed for single male entertainment. This isnt a political website, its about getting laid on the cheap in remote destinations in the world. If an individual cannot be at peace on this website, then I believe there is something truly wrong with that person and you should take some action or at least a kind tasteful discussion of your observations.

Hombre,

This is somewhat unusual-to see a Trip Report from The Man, himself. I can understand your need to remain impeccably private. I do however, admire your deep dedication in keeping this site as probably the highest rated forum in legal/tolerated prostitution discussion.

I believe I speak for the majority of us "hobbyists" when I say your site is the best site around.

Ironeagle, as several comments are apparently referring directly to ME, I hope you don't mind my commenting:

one individual stated that the manner that I presented my report was "weird"

Not true. I said I thought it weird that you were taking secret video of girls and then covering faces of others when posting them. And I do think that. Apparently our opinions differ, but then again, maybe not, which is why you seem offended?

and that I was "pissing in the wind" in stating my opinion in regards to the hotels Trying to organize some sort of internet boycott against mongering-related businesses you perceive as charging "too much" strikes me as rather silly, and as I believe I pointed out, will not be very successful. But if it makes you feel good to try and try and turn this site into some sort of consumers' union, who am I to stop you?

Listen, you apparently have a thin skin, and I, for one, am sorry if you haven't felt welcomed. But just as you are free to post your opinions and obervations, others are quite free to express theirs. You act like someone bit your head off or something, and nothing of the sort happened. I'm not sure what exactly you're suggesting for a moderation policy here, but seems to me to be a "don't let anyone disagree with an Ironeagle post" or "everybody's gotta like Ironeagle". Sorry, dude, but if people aren't able to point out things they disagree about, this site is gonna be aswfully damned boring and of little relavence.

Porker,

Im not referring "directly" to you. If I were referring "directly", then I would mention your name specifically. The fact of the matter is that I am referring to you indirectly and your handle was never used in my original message. I figured you would probably get the hint and we wouldnt have to name names.

In regards to the video issue, I know your an intelligent mature adult male. I have clearly stated my points on this issue several times and maybe there is something that you are missing, so I will ask you directly. How can I violate the privacy of the women if I choose to just keep the videos for myself and not publish them on the internet? I would also like to point out that none of the women I photographed or videoed are "girls", as you put it, but over the age of 18 to the best of my knowledge.

Im not in anyway trying to organize an "internet boycott" against mongering related businesses. I just stated my opinion that I believe no one should patronize the Wild Orchid Inn for reasons of price. Is there any organized conspiracy on my part to bring down the Orchid? Haha. Obviously not. Im at the "pissing in the wind" stage right now, but I havent called up Cindy Sheehan or Michael Moore to stage a rally in front of the place. As well, I am a big fan of Consumers Reports and maybe Hombre should use their rating system for the girls, big red circle, big black circle, etc.

Your apology is very much accepted. I have read all of the trip reports on this board, sometimes a few times over if the women are good looking, and most of the chat posts. There have been many times where I have seen you posting messages that appear somewhat confrontational and caustic. It appears to me that you like starting fights and then you hope your buddies will defend your obviously rude behavior.

I just have this to say to you. If you like to start fights, dont do it on the internet. If you have the spine, then do it in person face to face. If you can't back up your words in person, then dont bother posting them up here. Where I come from, throwing up some hostile words up on the internet and not being able to back it up in person is simply the act of a coward.

Its not that us other hombres, who dont belong to your gang, have "thin skin". Its that some of us actually choose to stand up for ourselves over an obviously hostile post. If you had words with someone in real life and your nose got busted, no one is going to blame the guy who broke your nose. Everyone will blame you for instigating a fight.

OK, I'll say it AGAIN: I had no hostile words for you.

I also have no 'gang', there is no conspiracy here, and I have never ever encouraged anyone to stick up for me. No need to, I can stick up for myself perfectly well, and if I get tired of someone's posts the usual best course is to ignore them.

As far as 'bringing it' in person, I appreciate your concerns for my safety.

IE-- you need to take up meditation, it will do wonders... if that doesn't work, ask for a bong for christmas.

Porker-- I find it hilarious that people light into me saying I'm a porker butt buddy/gang. Apparently they never read the volumes of historical posts where went at each others throats (virtually of course).

Porker,

This is not a public message board. In fact this is a private message board that a few good men work very hard to maintain. These men probably dont make a profit off of it. As well, they have carefully researched every aspect and stay up nights trying to keep it up while the "members" are out having fun and getting laid.

I like to think of this website as a house. You pay a cover (monthly fee) to get in and for that fee, you get to enter the house. Now just because you paid a fee doesnt mean you can trash the house and graffiti the walls.

In this case, Hombre is the owner of the house, this is his house. As its his house, I am going to watch my step and be careful with how I act. Im going to respect both Hombre and the house. Now if you have a disagreement while in the house or there is something you dont like, you either take it outside or speak in a manner that wont provoke a fight.

The trip reports are also not a public free for all where you can say as you please. These are stories of actual trips where good men spent their hard earned dollars and time to go on. Ultimately, most of the them had a lot of fun and just want to discuss it and make a memorial of their journey. They dont want to have your profane words stuck in their minds as a reminder of the trip.

I have seen you on many occasions insert an opinion that was worded in such a way where it was obvious it would cause a fight. In fact, I have spoken with a few other members who have fought with you on one occasion or the other. Like in my report, you chose to use the words "weird" and "pissing in the wind". The words you choose to use are sometimes biting and profane. That is really unfair to the person who wrote the report and to Hombre himself.

So I ask you kindly to think about the words you use when you decide to insert your opinion into a trip report. I have no problems with the other members. All the other members seem to word their responses in a non-fight provoking manner. While you might not take this board so seriously, Hombre obviously does and without him then there wouldnt be a message board. He is the one that is up nights trying to keep this boat afloat. As well, the rest of us members pay a fee to be here too and we dont want someone disrespecting our reports.

So all I am asking is to respect the other members and, above all, respect Hombre. Its his house. . .

Good point. Hombre, I'm sorry I called this sensitive man weird.

It would be easier for me if everyone was polite and diplomatic when they posted, but I don't expect it, I don't ask for it, and I don't think I'd like the end results. I think CH would be less interesting, not because of fewer flames, but because people were slowly and carefully constructing everything they wrote so as not to offend anyone. I usually do so in my own posts because I am in an administrative position and it's much more important for me to post as clearly and neutrally as possible. I also am inclined to post that way because of my personality which is careful, calm, and guarded. However, my posts take a long time for me to write and I doubt they provide much dramatic effect.

Here is some suggested reading for those that haven't been around since August 2003.

1. -Welcome To Club Hombre-: Club Hombre Policies: Moderation
2. -Off-Topic-: -Entertainment: Outside
---Why Use a Brazil Tour Guide

It's kind of ironic that there is suggestion of an "Asia Gang" now. Back in 2003, there was rumored to be a "Brazil Gang" that would supposedly gang up and attack anyone that disagreed with them. Anyone that posted a positive Brazil Guide experience or criticized flaming of a guide would automatically be included as part of this gang. Basically if your opinion wasn't anti-guide, you were a member of the Brazil Gang. There was no such thing as having an independent opinion if you even appeared to defend a Rio Guide.

I've been called a Brazil apologist before. If a few individuals want to call me a Asia apologist now, so be it. Those that have been around and those that take the time to read my position on moderation over the past couple years will see consistency, not favoritism.

I am not going to curtail honest disagreements or honest debate and I am not going to penalize those whose posting styles are not as diplomatic as my own.

I will look into complaints about other members, particularly trolling or excessive flaming, and provide honest feedback and take action where appropriate, but it has to involve a support request or email, I have neither the means nor desire to know when a member might be insulted or offended if I'm not notified.

Better to think of CH as a fraternity house. Come in and have fun, don't worry about tiptoeing and table manners. You obviously can't knock down the walls, but we're not going to kick you out for occasionally muddying up the carpet or scratching the wood furniture. The brothers are a diverse group, you won't get along well with all of them. Just try to keep in mind that it's usually personality, not personal, and that in the end we're all brothers with the same desires and goals.

I actually like the fraternity metaphor. As was the case when you first rushed a frat your frosh year, you gotta expect a little bit of hazing and ribbing by the "upperclassmen". But thinking back, how many of us would trade the experience because of some hazing. There are probably tamer and more genteel sights, but probably without the dynamic and open discussions as we have here.

I still think CH is not as uncivil as many other boards of the same purpose. I might have mentioned I even have an older lady on a Frequent Flyer chat that's been out to get me everytime I post :-) When you get a bunch of independent minded people together, you're bound to have some toes stepped on....but one my all time favorite saying goes.... beware of the toe you step on today as it may soon be attached to the ass you kiss tomorrow.