By popular demand, I'm moving this over to the Discus Forum:

BillyPV writes:

Maybe we should start a "Don't get busted" thread! You know, little tips that keep the wife or "significant other" from catching us? Here's one for all of you:

This may pertain more to mongers who see escorts or favoritas in the US (you know, local stuff). Did you know seat belts in cars can kill you? Well, actually the seat belt doesn't kill you, your wife does! I have seen more guys get busted for cheating on their wives because the seat belt on the passenger side has absorbed the perfume odor of some chic you had riding in the car with you! The webbing on the belts are pourous and when your wife hops in the car next to you and pulls that belt across her chest there is no way she is going to miss that smell! Think about. I know some guys who didn't, and they are paying dearly!!!!!

"Buckle up for safety"

The Senator writes:

I can think of several precautions that I take:

1.) Always wear aftershave! I've got maybe 20 little bottles in the medicine cabinet and after every shower I pick one and put a little dab here and a little dab there. I rotate the fragrances often sometimes wearing two or three different kinds per day. That way if I come home smelling like my favoritas brand my SO doesn't notice. You can also give your monger friends cologne sets for Christmas just to see their faces when they open their gift in front of their family.

2.) Make a regular habit of dropping off clothes at the cleaners so it's not unusual for you to have either dirty clothes or clean clothes in your car.

3.) At work:
a.) Work rotating shifts if you can so that your SO's not exactly sure what time you're working on any given day.
b.) Never answer your phone. Make people leave messages then call them back later. Your SO will eventually stop calling you in your office.
c.) Don't make a habit of calling your wife from the office.
d.) Take a job where you travel a lot.

4.) In your favorite TJ hotel:
a.) Bring a clean pair of clothes to change into after your last shower for the day. Leave your TJ outfit in your car and bring it to the cleaners the next day.
b.) Bring your own soap and make sure it's the kind you use at home.
c.) Treat yourself to NIX during your last shower. Give yourself your second treatment in the office showers.

5.) In your car:
a.) Always buy used cars so that if your SO finds a parking stub or someone's used underwear in your glove box you can claim that it must have already been there when you purchased the vehicle.
b.) Rotate a variety of scented Christmas tree style air fresheners from your rear view mirror.
c.) Buy a car with manual transmission. My SO drives an automatic and since she doesn't even know how to drive a stick shift she doesn't even keep a key to my car. This makes it real easy to hide stuff in your car if you need to.
d.) Take the bus or train to work every once in a while (or carpool with a monger friend) so that it's not unusual for your car to be at home while you are at work. Parking at the airport can get expensive.

6.) Financing:
a.) Have a monger credit card and ATM card that you keep in your office and have the statements send to a post office box.
b.) Have your payroll department put a set amount directly into your monger checking account every paycheck and then direct deposit the rest into your real checking account. This way I don't care how much money my SO spends as long as she keeps it in the black. Also, I'll still have my monger money in case my SO and I get into a situation where we're pinching pennies.
c.) Make sure your monger account doesn't earn any interest (you'd get maybe 1% at most) so you don't get a tax document from them.
d.) Make sure you are the one who does your taxes; or you're the one who deals with your accountant.
e.) Learn where the office keeps their paper shredder.
f.) Make sure that if you work with a monger buddy that you both handle finances the same way. For example, my yearly raise takes effect on September 1st , but my SO thinks it's the 1st of January.

7.) Make sure you have a couple of friends or co-workers who smoke or (and I wouldn't recommend this) smoke yourself in case you come home with that tobacco tinge that's so hard to get rid of or cover up.

8.) Establish a once a week or twice a month guy's night out that's non-negotiable. Sorry dear, I can't make it to your mother's house for dinner, tonight's poker night.

9.) Live in a different city from your meddlesome in-laws and siblings. Take a job in San Diego!

10.) I've never been questioned when I signed up for a work related community college class that meets one night per week 6pm-10pm; buy the text; drop the class; and spend that evening in ZN.

11.) Treat your SO like a queen and she'll give you a lot of leeway.

12.) Also, if your favorite chica likes a certain something special, like a certain brand of gum, buy some and keep it around the house. Give some to your SO too. Eventually she'll be picking up packs for you at the grocery store.

13.) Make a habit of taking your SO's car whenever the two of you go somewhere. You may need to buy her a car or give her your old one, but well worth the trouble IMHO.

14.) Don't even think of buying (or letting your employer give you) a cell phone or pager. Do you really want instant access? I know a certain monger who accidently and unknowingly hit redial after talking to his old lady. Buy phone cards instead.

The Senator

Excellent post,seems over the top but I do a lot of what the Senator suggests and more,I consider myself an expert at covering my ass because I have been doing it so long,which is not to say I will never get caught,the risk never goes away.
I have a steelcase file cabinet in the back of the garage which has a lock on one drawer,ONE key,it is with me at all times. The whole cabinet is mine so she would never touch it anyway but I keep pics,receipts,translator,diary,etc in there.
If you have a window of opportunity to go to the Zona,don't violate the window to often.
Example,if I'm home every nite,then that becomes what is expected,going out at nite frequently all of a sudden will raise suspicion. I leave for the zona after she is at work and return before she comes home,that is my window. FEW QUESTIONS ARE ASKED,THEREFORE few lies are told,no doubts, no suspicion,less risk. You can't be to careful,getting caught is not an option.
I always call her first if I 'm going to be doing something unusual or out of the norm,this builds trust......which you can violate later at your discretion.LOL. Calling her first preempts most problems as to where you are or what your doing.
Senator,that community college idea is priceless,I'm signing up next week.

Boy you sure sound like you have been spending many years with your SO. Thanks for the great info.

Many hostesses and strippers are SO stupid, they lay the perfume so heavy, sweat and rub themselves all over you sometimes and you come home reeking like you went to a perfume convention.

Women have a very keen sense of smell.
The best defense is an offense:
get some gas on the way home and Ooops,
spill some on you. Not many noses can overcome the gasoline smell to recognize any other odor.

Rock

Rock
MY wife is like a bloodhound,she smells everything, I keep a set of clothes in my vehicle and sometimes if she sees me leave,I change in the parking lot where I'm going,then change back to the clothes she saw me in when I left before going home,it's a pain in the ass,and sometimes I get lazy but a man has to do what a man has to do.
Take advantage of the showers in the rooms at AB and CC,if you dont trust the Chica while your in the shower,let her go first,then send her down while you shower. Actually never had to do that,Chica's I run with have all been great SO FAR,bless thier little brown skins.

Brothers,
This thread is A RIOT--absolutely hilarious. No, no, no, not because I'm laughing AT you, my brothers, not a chance of that--this is the brotherhood, after all. But I swear some of this stuff would make for the funniest comedy routine I ever heard. I guess I never thought much about it, but you married/involved monger bros must have to put a HUGE amount of labor into hiding the secret from the wife/SO--the AMAZING lengths to which you guys are going in order to keep coming to TJ is a great testimony to your dedication to the craft, and it makes for very entertaining reading for us non-encumbered/involved brothers. YOU GUYS ARE FUCKIN' INGENIOUS!! Party on, brothers, and may your secret stay eternally secret!

Senorpanocha, regarding the exchange of comments about wearing glasses in another thread, be very careful when you do wear them. It is easy to get makeup on them if you get too close.

Anyone ever use the new fabric deodorizers like Fabreeze?A little bottle could be useful.It covered the smell of cat piss that permeated a buddys convertable top and was making his driving life miserable.

senator; great thread, you cannot believe how many of those i have used ,# 11 is my favorite, i will print them and have them handy in case i forget or get careless, hehehe
hey taxibob, fabrese still leaves a hint of perfumed smell the SO will find it.

thanks again senator

I know a bunch of guys who want to go to an HC, a strip club, or see an escort in LA, but don't know how to explain a 3 or 4 hour absence after work to the "little lady".

Never fear, hockey & basketball season is here!!!!

Simply look at the schedules and see when the Kings or Lakers are playing at the Staples Center and you're home free! Just tell her a friend has an extra ticket and invited you. If you don't usually go to games, tell her a CLIENT invited you and bitch to her that you really DON'T want to go, but it's "business". The home games for both teams start at 7:30 and finish a little after 10PM. Simply tune in to a news channel on your car radio on the way home and you get the final scores!! It's a great way to "see the town" without staying out too late, AND having a great "cover story".

CAUTION: DO NOT tell your wife you are going to a Clippers game, because even SHE wouldn't believe that!!!!!

BillyPV

Ritmo

"But I swear some of this stuff would make for the funniest comedy routine I ever heard."

The Senator, Rooster, Feedbag and myself were lying around at the San Ysidro Travel Lodge one morning laughing our asses off one morning. The Rooster asked what would happen if our SOs suspected something. I told him "No matter WHAT they'd suspect, it would be one hell of a lot better than the TRUTH!!"

"I guess I never thought much about it, but you married/involved monger bros must have to put a HUGE amount of labor into hiding the secret from the wife/SO"

It's not labor, it's more like a strategy game!

"--the AMAZING lengths to which you guys are going in order to keep coming to TJ is a great testimony to your dedication to the craft, and it makes for very entertaining reading for us cumbered/involved
brothers. YOU GUYS ARE FUCKIN' INGENIOUS!!"

Yeah! Our crew consists of engineers, scientists and military men. It's a good thing we like to chase chicas instead of rob banks!

However, I know a couple of Postal Employees that put us to shame!! These guys live on a higher plateau of mongerism!

"Party on, brothers, and may your secret stay eternally secret!"

Meet us for a beer some time! Like next week!

BillyPV,

I thought about the ball game thing this weekend. As it turns out, I've used that excuse before, but have taken it one step further. Go ahead and buy the cheapest seats in the arena. While you're in TJ tear the ticket so it looks used (leave the small stub in TJ) and put the larger piece (the part you usually keep) in your wallet and leave it there for a couple of weeks.

The Senator

Hey Senator,

That's taking to the next level. I love it! You know the LA Kings have seats as low as $19.50 and you can buy them at any TICKETMASTER location. When you get home simply throw the "stub" on your dresser or nightstand with your keys, change, etc. and the next day just leave it there so your S/O will be sure to notice it. A solid alibi for under $20 is such a deal, eh?

I took a newbie who I met over the internet to TJ this past summer when I was a newbie myself.We used the Padre game as an excuse. No problem for me and he had a great time but he made some mistakes in covering his ass. For instance he told his wife he went to the game AFTER he got home,never called her to say where he would be prior to meeting me in TJ. Next morning I get a call from him asking me to call his wife because she did not believe him.Turns out she is real suspicious type although he had never done anything like that before. Real nice guy but I immediately thought twice about having given him my number. So that night I finally get a hold of her and lie my ass off for him,I think I saved his butt, I can lay glib bullshit on if I have to.She is the same ethnicity as my wife so I Knew just what to say because My wife used to be exactly the same way when we were first married.Ironically,at that time I was not doing anything to anyone,anywhere, let alone fuckin whores in TJ!!. In her country ALL the men have mistress's,even her dad and brothers and brother inlaws.
Anyway this guy calls me the next day and basically said NEVER AGAIN WOULD HE GO THROUGH THAT,it really freaked him,so no more TJ! HAVEN'T heard a word since,weird part was this guy was almost my exact height and weight and he was Italian-American, like me, married to a PHILLIPINA,LIKE ME, loved baseball LIKE ME,we had all this in common and both started exploring TJ almost at the same time. Best part was he spoke fluent Spanish,and acted as my interpreter all night. I really could have had a bud to run with.

Boy, the shit we have to go trough, eh?

I've got a friend who uses Yahoo, Hotmail, and a couple of other e-mail services. His "home" address, the one the whole family uses, is through Yahoo. He'll send an invitation to a game to himself using his Hotmail account, knowing his wife will see the e-mail on their "joint-account"!

For all you single guys out there who are reading this stuff, sock it away 'cause you'll need it one day!

And don't forget to ALWAYS save your parking stubs when you actually go to the game!


Sr P

"I really could have had a bud to run with."

You should run with The Senator and I next Monday afternoon.

Shoot me an e-mail!

Billy

He sends himself an e-mail inviting himself to a game? ROFL!! Thats fuckin genius,I GOTTA meet that guy,what a nut! LOL.

Shadow


I'm there Monday. check your e-mail.

Question....

Can you buy an airline ticket and cancel it for full credit WITHOUT having to return the ticket? This way if you had to go on a "business trip" to, hell let's say Denver for 2 days, you actually have a ticket at home the 'ol lady sees?

If so, the possibilities are endless......

Billy

I know a guy who blew a few extra bucks by arrainging a layover in LA between San Diego and San Jose! He told his wife that he had a class at UCLA. His wife picked him up from the airport!

you guys think that is bad, when i first caught the tj fever, one day i went as far as dialing my home phone number from my cell, p/u the call, hide the cell under the couch and pretend to be talking to a buddy of mine whose car broke down in a town 2 hours away so that i could sneak a 3 hour trip into a saturday afternoon, of course the SO was in the other room or bathroom, somewhere where she couldnt hear the other person talking. after i went thru that i took a step back and realized that i was hooked, and decided that i would only go when i could and not when i wanted, it has been better since .

Billy
I have heard that you can cancell flights with Southwest and have up to a year to use the credit on a future flight.I only fly them when i have to and have not done this myself but you might check this out.Perhaps you could use the credit later to go check out other border towns like NL.
Taxibob

On most airlines you can cancell and change a flight if it is not a discounted ticket. The might charge you 75.00 or you have up to one yr to use it

Senator,
Great report. I knew great minds think alike. You've detailed everything from the top to bottom. Every base covered. You even showed how to dodge the dripping bullets & Grenades the wife throws out. Senator you know something else?
Eventhough, you showed how you can shave away trips to the Zona without getting caught IT takes a truly Monger to stand firm, maintain poise & posture and the ability to be confident in himself when he does it.
Couldn't have said it better.

Valentino

Brother Shadow,
I would love to hear more of these stories over a beer in AB! Will let you know when my plans firm up for the Tgiving holiday weekend.

Brother BillyPV,
I agree with Bro. SP--the dude sending himself e-mails to invite himself to a game wins my GENIUS MARRIED MONGER STRATEGY OF THE WEEK award (which I have just invented).

You guys fuckin' rock.

Brother Ritmo,

I'd definitly buy ya a beer in TJ....you're nuts.

BTW when are you going to have TJHombre change your handle to "Brother Ritmo"?

Valentino

I bow in your general direction! If I ever got caught, I'd be fish food!


Ritmo

Last year, a bud of mine agreed to take his wife to her sister's house for Christmas. Everyone knows he can't stand his in-laws. She just happens to live in San Diego (we're in the Bay Area). Christmas night, The Senator, Dr Planet and myself are on my back porch smoking cigars and drinking good whiskey when this guy strolls in with a shit eating grin on his face. None of us can believe what we see


As it turns out, on Christmas Eve, he suggested that the girls go out and do their shopping and such. Of course, he slips across the border for about eight hours. Everyone's happy. Christmas morning, the nieces and nephews open their presents. Everyone's happy. He tells his wife that they should drive home to beat traffic. She has to work the following night so she likes the idea. Everyone's happy.

Brother Red,
You're ON, dude! I'm gettin' inta town around about Wednesday afternoon--don't know anything yet about where I'll be and when, don't even have lodgings yet, but details forthcoming when the home office knows more.

Speakin'a which--any of you brothas got good hotel recs? Checked out what's left at Redsnake for helpful info, but there ain't much there, or if it IS there, I didn't find it. I'm pretty much a TJ vet--used to be a San Diego local who went WAY too much, speak Spanish, feel comfortable (or as much as ya can!) in the zona--but I've only stayed overnight in hotels in TJ a few times (my tendency was to get a novia and go to HER place! MUCH cheaper!), don't know the lay of that land very well. Basically lookin' for tolerable conditions (no dead bodies in the room, etc.) at good price and proximity to zona--don't mind being IN zona, so long as the place is reasonably free of stories about mongers having doors beaten down and being robbed and sodomized! What's Cascadas run a night? If I'm in on Wed., how far in advance (if at all) should I try to reserve? Is it even POSSIBLE to reserve there? ANY details on this or other places most appreciated, my good brothers!

As of Wed. for me, my bros, the party is ON.
Your brother Ritmo

DUH! Brother Dumbass (aka Ritmo) just found the hotel info on THIS site (so into searching through Redsnake the obvious didn't occur to me)--got prices and some other useful stuff on Cascadas (including Brother Red's fascinating story of pleasure girls there that call YOU! SCORE!). Still would appreciate any info you Cascadas experts have on availability of rooms middle of week, security, etc. (am posting to Cascadas thread too, just for the benefit of my fellow brothers who prefer some order in their threads!)

Cascadas is $28/night with $10 key deposit. rooms are fairly clean with a/c and hot water with lousey showerheads. Great access to alley or street. Good security. Make sure you get 4 or 5 th floor and away from street. check in on alley side and tip the desk guy a couple of bucks. I never make reservations but he always tells me to come back around 2 to get room if filled. I usually check in Fri or Sat. No propblem with bringing girls and lots of club girls live there. met some in elevators and take them to my room. sometimes noisy.

All flights cancelled - No problem!

On Saturday evening, the Senator and I finished up a 2-½ day trip. We Stepped outside AB and into a nasty fog. I told The Senator "This is the WRONG fucking answer! We were supposed to have already left Long Beach by car and had to be home in San Jose by 11:00.

We took a cab to the border. The line to get through customs was all the way out past the cross walk! The Senator was still confident that we could get through and on to our flight. I was looking up for any signs of air traffic. We got through customs pretty quickly, grabbed a cab and headed to the airport. The cabby hauled ass! He told us that flights were being cancelled. The Senator thought he was bullshitting us. The cabby offered to take us to San Jose, but it would probably run $1000.00. I saw one plane in a holding pattern. It was not looking good.

We got to the terminal and there were no Southwest planes on the ground. We knew we weren't flying out that night.

It was decision time.

I said "Let's call the ladies and say you blew a hose in your car. Then we'll take the first flight in the morning."

The Senator said "No way!" And, that his SO would never believe that. "Besides" he said " we don't know when we'll get out of here."

So, we headed for the door just as they're announcing that all flights were cancelled. This gave us first shot at the rental cars. We were on the Avis shuttle sitting across from a couple from Sacramento who were in the same boat. We were shooting the breeze when the guy came to the conclusion "Hey, you guys aren't supposed to be in San Diego are you!?!" I turned red and we all laughed.

We walked straight up to the rental guy and told him we needed to rent a car one way to San Jose. He said "Yes Sir, what kind of car do your want?"

"A Ferarri" I said. The guy chuckled. The Senator told him that we needed the biggest, fastest thing he had. A Lumina was the best he could do. When it was time to sign me up as an additional driver, the guy asked me for my license. I said "The judge took it after my eighth DUI." The guy laughed again and punched in my license number.

The Senator got this serious look on his face and said, "Yeah, by the way is there a liquor store around here anywhere?" The guy busted up and we got out of there. As we were just getting to I-5, the Senator's Spider Sense started tingling. "Hey, you know we could be back at Miami in half an hour. I'm starting to like your plan more and more…"

"No, damn it! Get on the freeway and get us home before we get castrated!" The drive back was great! It was December 30th. That meant that every cop with vacation time was off because they would be working New Years Eve. We zipped through LA going between 65 and 90 MPH. It was amazing.

The drive also gave us a wonderful opportunity to reminisce about the trip and swap stories. As it turned out, this little chica from Miami Bar had made a hell of an impression on the Senator. I on the other hand was exploring the implications of having one of the most famous chicas ask for my e-mail address. One of the cool things about driving a Lumina at night is that it looks like a cop car. People get out of your way pretty quick.

The thought had occurred to us that long-term parking might not be open when we got to San Jose. My keys were in The Senator's glove compartment. It wasn't a problem though; we got his car and returned the rental. The guy at Avis said that they were closed and that he wouldn't be able to give us a receipt. When the Senator laughed at him, he got the idea and we were off!

We each got home around 2:30, kissed our SOs and went to sleep without a word!

I can't believe this crap, I would of taken the Lorena Bobbitt option and headed back to Miami.

PS: Two months ago I got my first Greek lesson in TJ. After all this years.

If Valentino's flight would of been cancelled he would of had a heart attack, you should see him when the plane is late by ten minutes.

Cityog - You Animal!!!

We're bold, Brother. But not as bold as you!

There must have been something in the stars, I got my first greek lesson in October. You met the chick when she was coming back for more in November.

It's funny you say that about Valentino. We were saying that if another bud of ours was with us, we'd have to put him in the back seat with a bottle of tequilla and a couple of valium.

Having your plane delayed is great, though, isn't it? Remember that time we got stupid drunk in the airport when our flights got delayed? Hard to believe it was a year ago!

PHHHHEEEEEEWWWWW,
Damn what a fucking story guys! You guys made me feel like the time my plane was delayed. I was shitting bricks. There was no way my S.O. was going to believe me what ever I told her. But you know what? You guys guys AGAIN displayed proper poise, coolness, and maintained while in a stressfull situation. I would have never thought of driving a rental car in a situation like that good job!

Shadow, Senator I must admit If you think were bad were just actually following your LEAD.

Valentino

PLUS PS, When is our next trip?

Ohh by the way I was in AB on Friday night for a couple of hours.

WHAT! We were in TJ from last Friday, 12/29/00, 1AM (really Thursday night, right?) until 6pm on Saturday, 12/30/00, 6PM. I spent a lot of time in Miami Bar Friday night, however. It was a spur of the moment trip. Sorry we didn't connect, but I was unavailable online from 12/23/00 until 1/2/01.

I'd like to (hell, I NEED to) go back soon.

The Senator

Senator,

"I'd like to (hell, I NEED to) go back soon."
The feeling is mutual SENATOR and as a matter of fact I believe one of our acquiantances is going prety soon. HE says, he wants to celetrate his B-Day in La Zona with a couple of his lady chicas.
I say lets meet him down there and throw him a
classical B-Day in AB. His B-Day is on Saturday. Any guesses who it is?????

Valentino

My guess would be Mr. Roman Romantico. Am I right?

SENATOR,
Right on the Nail......

Valentino

It was one year ago that I met you guys at AB, it is amazing what the internet will do. I still remember the look the Senator had when I approached him. Instead of asking him if he was The Senator I should of said "SUCKY FUCKY"

It is safe to say that almost all of us are either hitched or have live -in girlfriends. I for one am proud to be in a brotherhood of such magnitude!! Its cool to know that we are ALL watching each others backs. Whatever happens across that border, stays across that border. I compare the Zona to the same feeling I got going to Disneyland as a kid, it is for sure an E ticket attraction.

Talachero,
Were on the same frequency. When our crew goes down to Disneyland for a few days everything that goes down there stays down there. And if we take newbies we give them the same rules.

Valentino

ps. None of us are hicthed when we are down South

OUCH!!!!

I found out about a guy who just got seriously busted. Not only that, but his wife has read this board and this thread in particular. And beyond that, I think she posted today. (Yeah, I know. You're reading this too!) So far, this thread has been pre-occupied with Operational Security. It's definitely time to start talking about Communications Security.

If you are going to access this board from home, ALWAYS clear your browser's history file! Better yet, set your web browser's history to save zero days worth of history. If you're using Windows, you also have to clear the documents from your Task Bar.

The URL for this board is much more obscure than the old Redsnake URL. This is a good thing. If it does end up in your history, it's not too obvious. Try e-mailing the URL to your own web based e-mail account. That way you can always have it handy, but not keep it on your machine.

And always always always keep a sepate, secure password for fringe passwords!

Talachero said: "It is safe to say that almost all of us are either hitched or have live -in girlfriends."


Ha ha ha.

Thats rich.

Shadow- Already ahead of you with the history trail........thanks for the warning though!!

Shadow,

So did the Busted Guy's wife offer any good tips when she posted?

The single man in TJ is truly a happy man. No worries about having to go home smelling smokey, reaking of booze and or perfume. The rest of us have a problem. This is my solution. Don't go with single men if you are married. If you go with someone they must be married and have as much to lose as you do. For Gods sake don't tell any one your stories to be cool. You are cool by the mear fact that you go to the Zone. This should help keep things discreet in your immediate area.
Also if you are not computer literate and can't do simple history and cache cleaning, never fear. you should just look at lots of porno on your computer so that actual discussion boards like this get mixed in the fray. She will find out and think you are a perv, but just a harmless, pitiful perv. Not the full grown studley monger that you.

Here's one on financing I learn from a monger who attended the BAMC:

You get paid every two weeks (26 times per year), but your SO thinks you get paid twice a month (24 times a year). That leaves 2 full paychecks per year for mongering.

Enjoy, and don't get busted!

The Senator

That busted guys wife actually e-mailed me and wished me good luck and said i posted good advice about stds....(which was actually a rather sick joke about std's)
So i removed my e-mail address from my profile here. She probably still has my e-mail, but it's anonymous and maybe she deleted it. Yeesh! Gave me chills. I imagined I was corresponding with Lorena Bobbitt...
Here's a good one I'm pulling this time to not get caught:
I'm taking a geology class at the local college and told my wife that the prof is encouraging the class to go on a trip to look at extinct volcanoes, and the unique geology of Mexico on a field trip. This prof actually did this two years ago, but not this year, but she doesn't have any way of knowing that. Of course, I must go for the "extra-credit" I can get from the trip. lol
The trick is getting away from the house without her trying to see me off safely from the airport and wonder why nobody else seems to know me....
Last year I went to a fictional Las Vegas convention so I could party in Pahrump. With a last minute flash of Genius, I told her the company couldn't get all of the co-workers on the same plane so I had to take a seat on a later flight and it worked marvelously....she even picked me up from the airport when I got home!
I doubt that'll work twice...think, think,think what to do this time lol
I'll probably have to schedule my departure for when she has to be at work and cant' accompany me...
I'm gonna take my camera and take pictures of boring rocks and such to reinforce the story...I'm lmao just thinkig about me standing on the side of the road, taking pictures of some dumbass rock...

Hey Wolfvgang,

You could buy one of those plaster monkeys on a surfboard, bury it, then dig it up again like it's been there for a thousand years and tell her it's an artifact you discovered!

OMG..ROFL

Mr. Senator,

You also gaves a few tips on things we should have when we are Mongering. I remember us agreeing on an Id, A "side credit card" our Southwest Membership card and what else?

Valentino

I've been contacted by someone's wife. She would like me to confirm her suspicions that her husband is running wild in la zona. I believe that she is offering cash for photographic evidence of her husband's activities. I don't think this is a really good idea -me stalking someone around TJ and reporting back to his 'superior.' I guess, I'm asking the 'tribe' for advise. What would a 'noble' monger do?

Sure, some of you are thinking, how much cash. Or, has she sent a photograph of her husband. Or, does this WasabiMas guy have a network of spys in la zona that already have copies of the photograph. But, please, allow yourselves not to jump to any conclusions. This is a real situation that has 'popped-up' like a rabid 'e-stalker' on a seriously sick freak. And, we all know what a tonta grupa de las panochas they can be.

The cash question is almost valid. Being a 'moral' individual, I would wish not to be involved in such an endeavor. It is possible that I might be interested, if I had an axe to grind -with this particular individual. But ...I don't think so.

I've considered telling her to just blow the fucker away. But, she might do it. I wouldn't want to soil my karma with the death of some needle-dicked piece of dog fuck. All I could allow myself to do is suggest that she use one of the Mexican PIs listed in the TJ phone book.

Like I would pass around a picture of some asshole in a suit. Lady, who in the hell do you think I am? Send me you, and I'll take all your hate for that dirt-bag fuck-stick and throw it ...where it will do some good.

Tell her to F*** Off. It is also non of your business IMHO

Why the hell do you want to get involved in another monger's business and how the f__cked does she know you well enough to email you for details. DO you know her personally. Well all said and done, I second the motion and tell her to F*** off. You don't know what you're getting into and that could be a risk itself. If he ever found out you ratted to his wife, he might eventually get back at you one way or another. I know i would.

Or maybe he would pay me to identify the snitch? Didn't think about that! LOL
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This particular thread is a TROLL.

Geez, what don't you guys believe?

I suggested that she go to a professional. I wouldn't mind being involved with her. She seems pretty genuine, though pretty wrapped up in this thing. I do understand how she must feel. I'd like to believe she is going for the big divorce settlement. But, I think she may be taking this personally. Who knows what she really wants. Maybe she needs an affair. I'd be interested in cash. But, if she get's to freaky, I wouldn't want to be part of it. Again, gents, I suggested that she use a professional.

Fuck-off? My, that would be rude.

It is interesting. But, true, why would I want to concern myself in anyone else's business. I'm a little bored with this whole 'whoremonger' thing. But, I could use a few extra dollars. I'm really not worried about revenge. After all, revenge is in the hands of the Lord.

I wish it was a troll. I had considered not paying attention to any of it. But, I thought you others might be interested. Hey, maybe one of the 'basketball' guys would be interested in taking her on a tour that would include her husbands haunt while he was there. Gee, how could that happen.

So, I guess, if you are interested, feel free to e-mail me. We can discuss any of the particulars, in private.

Crazylezn-trust me. I've though about it all. And this is what I'm gonna do first.

Rock- Be careful not to be around anyone with an open flame when you douse youself with gasoline. Wouldn't want you to emoliate yourself for such a cause.

Hey I think that wasabi must be affecting your thinking. First of all if you're just joking around that's one thing, but if you are seriously considering screwing over one of us do you really think it's wise to broadcast it to everybody here. I imagine there are some pretty smart people here that would be really pissed off if you did something like that.

A wife of a "busted monger" contacted me recently as well, just to comment on an article I'd posted in men's health... I got the feeling she read the boards regularly... She didn't have too many kind words for her busted mongering husband (whose handle you would all recognise)
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Altogringo:
That same chica contacted me a few weeks ago for the same reason. She is insanely pissed off, anybody that talks to her for more than a minute is masochistic. lol
I posted about it a few weeks ago but i forget where.
Wasabimas:
Are you insane? Do like I did with above mentioned female: "thanks for the kind words, but I'm not interested in getting involved in such mess" Nobody is that strapped for cash, come on.

Dude, I have far bigger fish to sashmi. I can't believe a monger or mongers would get together and try to screw someone over off the board and on the street. There are some pretty serious legal consequences for that type of stalking. I can easily think of ...

Not to worry. I've suggested that this person seek professional support in their endeavor. Gee, call me Sr. Ayudido.

Had to laugh, my boss, who is forever ragging on me for being in love with my fave("why don't you find a girl here dude?")just called me on his way home to tell me that he got a totally nude couch
dance.I laughed,but then called him back and gave him some of the tips from this thread so as to help him out. Hey,I was unhappily married once(twice actually)we gotta stick together,right?
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WasabiMas,

Do you know what the stalking laws are like in Mexico/TJ?

MM

I will answer that question after my interpol contact in Jalisco returns my call. However, I do know the Mexican word for sushi is bait. And, I believe that is the scenerio we have here with the busted monger guy and his wife.

Yes, it has been an interesting study in human behavior. I suspected that this troll was devised by certain persons to weed out and identify would be snitches and other malcontents that are lurking or activly posting information at this site. And, like the inspector in Les Miserables, I will say, I kneeewww eeeett. You will have to wake up two days ago to put one over on old WasabiMas.

So, I guess we can put this one to bed. But, as I reflect on this case, I am sad to relearn that the is a persistant no thruth in lurking problem here at this site. Like I care.

Also, I would like to thank those whom have consulted with me on this case and others like it.

Tanakato, it is time to ... never mind. Well, no, it is time we go fishing.

OK fellows. Heres something I just discovered. ALWAYS make sure you delete the files from your temporary internet files folder! After logging on to this board, a file is put there called "topmenu". If you look at the details under internet address (you can change the width of the column) it shows your username AND password. Anyone who really wants to snoop (a s/o?) would not have a problem getting access to your account and monitoring the posts. If for some reason this file will not delete (dont laugh, it happened to me)move the temp internet file to the recycle bin and empty it from there. You cant just delete the temp internet file as it is a system file. Also make sure to delete anything in the subfolders under the file. A word to the wise.

There is even a better way if you are using MS Internet Explorer.
Right click your mouse on the IE icon on your desktop and choose "properties"
Go to the tab named "Advanced".
Scroll down to the section named "Security".
About the 4th box down is a selection; "Empty temorary internet files folder when browser is closed"
CHOOSE THIS OPTION.

No more worries mate.

Thanks, but
You still want to be carefull...i delete the stuff in all my temp folders anyway, because for some reason my system doesn't get rid of temporary internet files even though i've done that.

The guy who said "You single guys are lucky" - referring to the lack of necessity to cover your bases will enjoy this......

Background: I spend about $600/month on street girls, lately most 2 of them that work on different blocks: "M" & "G". "M" is my long-time favorita & "G" is my new novia (I've been to her place a couple of times, taken her brat to the park once, etc. We're talking about living together on weekends).

Anyway, I spent two hours (1-2pm) with "M", then left and encountered "G" at her hotel. "G" went into the hotel room to change (with the door open, no less) while I sat in the hall facing the entrance of the hotel, watching people go by on the sidewalk. "G" came out of the room for a few seconds to grab something from her purse, said something to me, then went back in. I looked up and "M" was walking into the hotel towards me, smiling. (Oh, SHIT !!!) I looked up and realized that "G" was just out of sight and likely to pop-up any second. I stood up and walked past "M" out of the hotel, motioned for her to follow me and stopped in the caseta (long distance phone business) next door. She kept pointing to "G"'s coca cola which I was holding. I asked her what she was doing here (she lives in the other direction) and she said she needed to make a phone call. As we were in the caseta, I said OK, here we are, and she said that she meant another one down the block. She declined an offer of a drink from the soda and went to the other caseta. (WHEW !). I went back into the hotel, moved the chair to where it couldn't been seen from the sidewalk. When "G" was ready, and we left - passing the caseta where "M" was calling, I made sure to follow here from about 8 feet away... I think that the next time I see "M", I'm going to tell her that I was waiting for a buddy of mine she has met. If the hotel desk clerk says anything to "G" and she asks me, I'll say that "M" was the wife of my buddy, and she thought I was waiting for him in a whorehouse.

The moral of this story;

Never linger in a whorehouse where you can be seen from the street.

Regards.

Pauncho

Whooped by SGs?

Man I thought I was pathetic!

Pauncho:

You're going to get busted; its inevitable...I had some incredibly close calls as well...i.e., walking out of a flop room at Cascadas with novia #1 and turning a corner to the Miami recepcion only to see novia #2 standing at the desk talking on the phone-- with her head down! gracias a dios...

I thought I was living a charmed life-- until it all came crashing down one afternoon...if you are playing two or more eventually your luck will run out...the Zona is too confined and the interconnections are too convoluted...it is impossible to mentally push every button that you will need to push in order to keep each relationship a secret from the other...

I realize that you may not be looking for advice, but if you are serious about either of these chicas you will need to make a choice before you lose them both...

YoungBrig

Pauncho

$600 a month on street girls, and your single? With the amount of time(& money) you must be spending down there, why don't you get a Mexican girlfriend. There are tons of nice Mexican women in TJ that would love to have that kind of attention from a American guy.

hi chargers

so true
i agree 100 percent

600 a month will include a apartment for her too and money for taking her out ect...

but some guys like different girls all the time

take care
milkman

I wouldn't suggest getting a apartment for the girl. Most nice Mexican girls aren't going to take your money for a apartment. And if they are the kind that would, your setting yourself up as a suggerdaddy who is going to pay all the expences. Find a girl that has a job and is paying her own way already. Or (and I don't want to sound like Westfargo but) a girl that lives at home with her parents. In most Mexican families it's normal for women to live at home until they marry, so it's not unusual to meet ladies in thier 20s living at home.

And I certainly didn't mean to say that you should be exclusive with the girl. I was suggesting that instead of $600 a month on SGs, maybe a fulltime girlfriend & $150 a month on SGs. It sounds like Pauncho is doing the same girls over & over anyway. Most Mexican girls will turn a blindeye to cheating as long as your not obvious about it.

Info is passed from girl to girl. My fav SG once told who I was fucking at AB the night before. Fortunately my SG was not working that night.