To all interested massage aficionados...let's continue the discussion of Azteca Massage which was started on RedSnake. I believe it deserves a separate discussion thread because it is unique. It is the only Tijuana MP where real massage is available, and no sex is allowed. The archived posts on the RedSnake board are a great resource while they are still accessible. Let's add new posts and opinions here.

BTW....the regular posters on the RedSnake board had observed a bit of self-censorship. Though there is absolutely no sex at Azteca some of the therapists push the envelope, and sensuality can get very close to sexuality. It has been reported that some of the chicas will provide manual relief AKA a hand job for trusted clients. Please don't violate that trust. As the signs say in the massage rooms at Azteca: "please respect the therapist". Please don't post details of that nature on the public discussion board. That's what E-mail is for.

Bosco,
Well spoken! I have been a few times and only once in the past two years. I have been with Marta and her massage was excellent. Any suggestions for any other girls would be appreciated?

Also does anybody know what is going on with Cristy's being shut down and the former Wendy's being shut down on Sunday?

Marta is my favorite masseuse at Azteca. I missed her on my last 2 trips and ended up with Amanda both times (totalling 3 massages from Amanda now). She is one of the prettier thin gals. However, she exudes a lack of energy and seems to have short patience for communicating with language-challenged gringos.

Her lack of outward energy is consistent with a seeming lack of strength in the massage - her's are the softest massages I've had at Azteca. However, she is not unskilled and I find her massages to be very soothing and sensual...a perfect prelude to zona action. She goes for the sensual (e.g. emphasizes "feather touch" after she's completed an area), but without crossing the line. She also isn't shy and removes the towel at the very beginning of the massage - so you are fully exposed the entire time. Without the pretense and interference of the towel, she does give a more serious butt massage than any other masseuse I've been with at this place.

Oh yeah - quick note - the very sweet and pretty night receptionist told me she is learning massage and we may see her join the lineup. THAT would be something to look forward to!!

Erip,
I don't know if she is the night receptionist but Bettina works in the afternoon as the receptionist. She is very sexy IMHO and I would not mind a massage from her.

Also again thanks for telling me about the discount coupon in the yellow pages. I will continue to extract the coupon from the Tijuana directory.

El Cochino, between you and me, I don't think there's a coupon remaining in any of the phone books at the Villa Zaragoza . I need to change hotels. On a recent visit, I used the coupon and they accepted it and then returned it to me - good thing since there were no phonebooks conveniently available to deflower on the following visit. The Azteca ad in the 1999 Yellow Pages says that you will get the discount by mere mention of the ad. Don't know if they'll go for that anymore.

I don't know the names of the receptionists - they are both very nice and attractive. I believe Bettina is the day receptionist who is the manager of the facility. The night receptionist who I am referring to is younger, darker hair, slender but not ultra-skinny like the day receptionist/manager. Sometimes they are both there with the younger one taking the reception desk while the other girl takes care of other business. I have also asked the day manager (Bettina?) if she does or ever will do massages....unfortunately, not much hope for that.

Marta is my favorite. She is very pretty and sexy. Even though she does not speak English, we have been able to communicate a little each time by me practicing what I want to say at work with my Mexican friends, then saying them to her. She has gotten very comfortable with me and I think she is a very special person. I could fall in love with her very easily. I have had two recent double sessions with her. When she realized I was more than just an average customer and truly appreciated her, the level of service was raised. After all, she is like any other woman and enjoys to be appreciated. I love her smile when she catches me admiring her gorgeous body.

Another favorite of mine is Lola. She gives a good massage and is sexy.

It is good to see that some of the familiar names from RedSnake are still around...Erip, El Cochino, Daytimer, et al.

Erip...I agree with your comments about Amanda. She seems very placid and rarely has any sort of expression on her face. When I first met her she gave the deepest massage at Azteca. She used to be my favorite, I've had probably close to ten massages from her. I still enjoy her work and she has always responded to my body language during the treatment to optimize the experience. Nowadays, though, I have a 'been there, done that' feeling towards her. I don't mean that in a negative way at all and would enthusiastically recommend her to anyone visiting Azteca.

I have had one massage from Marta and remember it fondly. Having read all the compimentary posts above I must make a point of seeing her again. My current favorite is Lola. She works very deep, with an experienced technique that does not feel invasive. Others that work at that deep level can be undisciplined at times and it hurts. Amanda and Lola are primarily evening therapists.

I believe Marta is primarily daytime, am I right? One other day therapist I like is Connie. She goes about as deep as Amanda, and also does a good job of reading my body language to optimize my pleasure. Also, Connie's large breasts and short stature cause her to rub them in your face when leaning over you to massage your chest (while standing at the head of the table). Which brings me to...

Adrianna. I visited Azteca last Sunday evening. Since first seeing her a while back I had wanted to try her. She is young, cute, and relatively short, with a nice plump pair of tits. Unfortunately, she manages to keep them away from your face as she massages your chest. Quite a disappointment. Also, I must say that her massage isn't quite up to the skill level of the others I have mentioned. She is just 'OK' (IMHO). Apparently, she is a relative beginner. Visually she is an eye-catcher, though.

...Bosco

These chicas just love to get their melonas in your face when you are on your back and all of a sudden, there is a tent showing on the towel.
That has happened too many times

heh heh.

Rock

Bosco, you are right that Marta works daytime but she works day and night either Wednesday or Thursday. She told me she's off Sunday and Monday but I saw her there a couple of Sundays back. Lola seems to be there all the damn time.

I read your experience with Amanda with astonishment. You got the deepest massages from her and I have had my gentlest massages from her. I have never indicated to her that I wanted a soft massage - she has always defaulted to it. Could there be two Amandas?

How much do these massages cost? I have never had one in tj, but you guys make them sound like I am really missing out on something good. I usually get to Mex pretty late at night, are they open late?

The massages are $20 for about 45 minutes, and includes a shower. I am not sure about how late they are open, but I think they close before midnight. Perhaps one of the night time guys will tell us that.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that they are open past 10 PM.

Rock

Azteca is open until 11pm according to the sign on the door. But the massage appointment must START by 10pm, so they probably don't let anyone in after 10. The one time I began a massage after 9:30pm they had me pay before we started. Usually you pay afterwards. I assume they want to close out the till by 10pm.

Erip...let my elaborate a bit. I first met Amanda almost three years ago. At that time she gave the deepest massage at Azteca. I have always asked for a deep massage from anyone who works on me. She always did so. I was with her a few months back and she went deep without my asking. I'm sure she remembered my preference. Having said that, nowadays there are two or three chicas (ie Lola) who go deeper that Amanda. Perhaps Amanda is losing her enthusiasm. Three or four years of massaging naked men five or six days a week could wear out anybody.

A note on pricing...you can have two girls at the same time for $30. I have never tried this. Only one report on RedSnake ever mentioned this. I believe it was posted by Bingo in June, 2000. I definitely enjoy the sensual aspects of massage. Most of the chicas will mix in some level of sensuality once they get to know you. I suspect that with two chicas in the room at the same time each would feel inhibited about arousing the client in front of another masajista. I could be wrong, of course. Maybe I'll try it someday. If anyone does the 'double' please post a report!!

...Bosco

I had a massage from Marta this afternoon. She is fantastic. Her massage is relaxing and sensual. I must agree with the posters above: she is one of the best.

It's too bad she and Connie work the same schedule, I am forced to choose one or the other. Marta is prettier, Connie is stronger (when she wants to be), Marta has softer hands, Connie gives the better butt-cheek massage (just barely).

Choices, choices...Bosco

I stopped going to Azteca when they got popular and the wait time went up but I went back today. I was assigned Connie. She's probably the heaviest girl there but the massage was outstanding. The music from the downstairs disco is a major annoyance however. Even at 4:00 it was thumping.

Reytj, I guess we were sitting there together in the waiting room - I was there at the same time and everybody in the joint was on line for Marta! Fortunately, I was first on line and escaped for a quick Torta while waiting...though I was tempted to skip the wait and go with Connie since she treated me very fine on a recent occasion. I guess I know who you are since I saw the dude Connie got assigned to at that hour. I was the guy sitting in the chair right next to the bathroom.

Anyhow, in general the wait at Azteca isn't too bad these days during non-prime hours UNLESS YOU ARE WAITING FOR MARTA!!! Being a client of her's surely brings a nuisance factor. Friday afternoon is prime. However, there were several masseuses available during much of the time, except most of the guys were hanging in there for Marta.

I had some laughs with her about the situation on Friday - her popularity is making her work her little ass off and even rush her massage to some minor extent. I got shorted on the back massage yesterday but everything else was up to her standard.

And yes, being massaged to the thumping of disco is preposterous. Problem is, where else in TJ can you go for this type of massage?

Too bad we can't open up our own MP in TJ, hire al the best girls. But then again, this is TJ and if we go and try to get a piece of the pie, we might wind up with a car bomb or get the shit shot out of us.
HA!

Rock

Long live NAFTA !

Actually Erip I was probably Connie's previous customer. When I got there there was only one other client-a gringo-waiting there. I was dispatched first presumably because the other guy was waiting to see Marta. When I left all the seats in the waiting room were occupied.

After calling to find out how long the wait would be I went to Azteca at 7:30 Sunday night. I was assigned Amanda. The massage was fine but her vibe not. I would say she was aloof at best and when I tipped her at the desk before leaving she didn't even acknowledge me.

BTW-Have the large signs requesting tips in Spanish and English always been in the rooms? This was the first time I noticed them although I have always tipped.

I saw those signs the first time I went there (early last year). I've always had good massages there (whether or not I felt good vibes or not).

Reytj, Amanda often seems like she's sleepwalking and is usually detached...typically doesn't look you in the eye when she receives a tip. Once, I tried to see if she could perk up and I tossed a couple of provocative comments her way...minor polite flirting. She perked up quite a bit - actually became what would pass as animated, for her. But my spanish wasn't good enough to follow through with the conversation, so it all crashed and burned again.

The "propina" signs have been there as long as I've been going to Azteca - close to 2 years. Surprised you haven't noticed them since they are directly under the "Please don't ask our therapists to fuck you" sign.

At one time Amanda was my favorite therapist at Azteca. After several visits she became pretty friendly in the room. But in the reception area she was always very subdued. The whole tipping scenario usually feels slightly uncomfortable to me. I typically am reaching across the counter and over another chica's head to hand the money to my masajista. Perhaps they are embarrassed about getting the big payoff in front of everyone in the reception area. I wouldn't mind giving them a propina in the room but after the massage they split from the room so quickly, and you don't see them again until you are on the way out.

Anyone had a massage from Valentina? (I am pretty sure that is her name) I saw her for the first time on Sunday January 21. She is young and cute with a generous rack. We were making some eye contact while I was waiting. In fact, I think I would have been with her except for the fact that I had requested my current favorita: Lola. Lola was great as always. But I can't help fantasizing about Valentina massaging my chest and rubbing her boobs in my face.

Hey Dr Planet

I heard you met Marta last week! Isn't she the hostest with the mostest? None of the other girls I've met there come close!

Hey Erip,

Is there really a "Please don't ask our therapists to fuck you" sign in that place? I've yet to check out any of the MP's but getting a pic of that sign might just make it worth it!

Hey Bosco..Can you take it fuerte from Lola?Damm...strongest chica I've ever had do me..

Redongdo, I was paraphrasing extremely LOOSELY.
The sign is more closely worded as, "The massage is nonsexual. Please respect our therapists".

Swadi...Lola does work deep, and she is skilled enough to know how to use her strength to get a relaxing effect. I have had one or two others try to go deep but they end up hurting me. BTW Amanda goes pretty deep as well, but she sticks too close to the standard Azteca 'routine' for my taste. I would still recommend her to anyone.
...Bosco

Gentlemen... How goes it? I wanted to post on a recent trip I took down to TJ. I had the posts here about Aztec and decided to try it out. Now, first let me say that I had never had a "professional" massage, so I was more curious than anything I guess. I went down during the day on a Friday (played hooky from work..) so I guess it was fairly slow. I waited about 5 minutes and then headed back. Not being totally sure what to do back there, I just stripped down to my boxers and waited. I was assigned Connie, I guess because I didn't ask for anyone specific. She proceeded to do her thing with a minimal amount of talking since I know porquito espanol and she doesn't speak english apparently. So, long story short, the massage was decent but I think I missed something somewhere. I know I have no basis for comparison, but I didn't find this experience erotic or exciting in any fashion. Does the masseuse make that much of a difference?

"Does the masseuse make that much of a difference?"

You can take the bus and get to work,
then again, you can drive a Porsche or Ferrari to work and in both cases, you get to work.
Same on the return home.

Does it make a difference if you take a bus or some other car?

Rock

I've tried a lot of the ladies at Azteca over the years, a relative new lady there is Angeles, blonde hair to the shoulder, quite a good massage (better than most) and she has a warm personality. Try her.

I was at Azteca last week and asked for Connie. The receptionist replied "no mas". Does anyone know where she went?

Xkansan..."no mas" most probably means she does not work there anymore. A friend e-mailed me recently asking about Connie. He had also gotten the "no mas" response. It sounds like she is gone. Too bad, she was one of the friendly ones, especially with repeat clients.

Is anyone familiar with Valentina? She is young, cute, slender lower body and bodacious boobs. She is tempting, but sometimes the newbies aren't real good at massage. I require a good massage, the looks are secondary. Also my current favorite works the same hours as Valentina and I don't want to upset her.

Marta told me last week that Connie just quit - she had enough of Azteca after 3 years working there. "Quit" often translates to "sabbatical" for many of these chicas, so I won't be surprised to see her return sooner or later.

I had my least satisfactory massage to date at Aztec. I was assigned Elizabeth. She's a gordita who says she's from Tijuas and has been working at Azteca for more than a year.

I like a vigorous massage but the tempo was off and a times I felt like I was being rolfed. Will not repeat with her.

BTW there was a different receptionist than the two I'm familiar with. I don't know where they get them but they're all attractive and friendly-something you can't say about the masajistas.

Lots of turnover all around there. The younger receptionist is no longer there (Bettina) - replaced by a very pretty, better English speaking chica. Bettina had a personality change in the last couple of months - she used to seem very happy and was real pleasant, but lately she's seemed very unhappy and serious - maybe some bad stuff for her on the outside. Also several new masajistas...mostly on the flaca and bonita side.

I had Elizabeth many months ago and actually got a first class massage from her, but with the least sensuality and personality of any I've been with there so I don't repeat with her.

My regular masajista is Marta but I've been going in on Tuesdays when she doesn't work, and was getting very high quality massage and sensuality from a young flaca named Theresa who I had great rapport with. She was a 3 year veteran but now is gone...they say never to return. When I ask for her, they sort of hold back giggles...when I press for detail they say she is sick, but will never return. Is that so funny? Anyhow, I'd like to know the real deal on Theresa...anybody clued in?

Got an OK massage with moderate sensuality from Lilly...she's been there a few months and is flaca and attractive. Also a hard massage from a brand new young flaca whose name I don't remember for sure...may have been Guadalupe. She was very shy and sensuality was zero...all deep tissue and avoided upper thighs altogether.

So with all of my favoritas but Marta now history, does anybody have any suggestions for a masajista who delivers a nice dose of sensuality along with a quality massage?

SV
Do you have a name associated with new girl?

OK it seems fitting that my first post on this new board will be about my favorite place in TJ.

I was there about a week and a half ago on a monday afterneen. I was told there was a 45min wait. While I was waiting another gringo came in and asked for Martha, but was told she wasn't in.

I had never seen the girl before. She was young, thin, and very attractive. Her massage was above average, and when she got to the upper thigh area, she wasn't she at all. When she was massaging my ass, Boy did I get the surprise of my life when put her elbow into my lower back and proceeded to (with quite a bit of pressure) run her elbow the entire length of the crack of my ass, over my balls, and then over my back of my penis (pinning it between the table and her elbow). The first time she did it the "over the balls" part was a bit painful, yet it was right in the middle of the "over the ass hole" part and the "down the back of the penis" part. I'm now a big fan of the move. she did it 3 times on each side.

My next vistit a few days later was the first time in many years that I asked for a certain masseuse at Azteca. I couldn't remember her name (as I still can't), but luckily she was standing next to the receptionist when I went in, so I just asked for her (and pointed at her). If your interested in a good description of her I will provide it in e-mail.

Chargers

I too would love to sample the "pinned penis" move this chica has. Please send her description to: epimetheus@mediaone.net

E

Chargers, if you want your email to automatically show up when you post, use the "Edit Profile" link to the left. Do not put anything in the box that says "Full Name", as that will show in place of "Chargers"

I'll change that tonight when I have more time. Until then my e-mail is

chargers32@hotmail.com

Requests can be sent there, so we don't clutter up the board with the requests.

Chargers wrote
"I had never seen the girl before. She was young, thin, and very attractive. Her massage was above average, and when she got to the upper thigh area, she wasn't she at all."
I'm guessing it's a typo and you meant to say shy but it is TJ.................
Taxibob

Chargers, I think I met her 2 Fridays ago, right at 10 am. I had asked for "Maribel", went to the first room on the left. But this 20-year old came in, said her name was "Mary"(?). Spoke no english. I advised her I wanted more effort on "Mi espalda y pierna"(sp?), meaning back and legs.
She, like you said, wasn't shy as she worked up the thighs. The elbow down the back seems to becoming an Azteca routine, at least with the last few for me. "Mary", possibly Maria or Marisa, did follow thru more down the cheeks.
She also did the "up the thighs, spreading them open" routine from the back and not just the front,like most do at Azteca.
Also opted for the $5 Bano Corporal, she wouldn't wash the package, but got over her shyness due to my lack of modesty

Xkansan

Nope, not the girl. I can't remember her name, but I know none of those was it.

Taxibob

Your correct, it should have been "shy". But on the other hand I guess I really don't know

Xkansan...I think I met the chica you refer to about a week ago. Her name is Mariah, as in "they call the wind Muh-RYE-uh". Except she pronounced it closer to the Spanish version of 'Mary' (Muh-REE-ya) but with the stress on the first syllable (MAH-ree-ah). The final 'ah' is so quiet that I didn't get a clear idea until she wrote it down for me. Her massage is good enough for me to repeat. I was thinking of asking her for a bano corporal, maybe I'll wait until she gets to know me for another session or two. Check your e-mail...Bosco

A couple of questions for you Azteca regulars. I've been getting my massages for the last few months from Lola because she has Hands of Steel and gives a good, deep massage. Not much to look at but serious about her massage. I tip her $5 on top of the $20. Now, I've become addicted to the place and it's my first stop when I get there. I'm not interested in a "sensual" massage. I just want to get the kinks out.

First, is there a better, deeper massage therapist at Azteca than Lola. I don't care about looks, just getting a great massage. Second, Lola always looks sullen when I give her the tip. Is $5 too cheap? Thanks for your advice.

Matiz...
In my experience at Azteca, Lola is about as good as it gets in the massage dept. Although Marta also can deliver a pretty strong massage. There is another chica there that is also pretty good but her name escapes me at the moment. As far as the tip goes...$5 should be sufficient.

Matiz

Back on Redsnake there was a conversation about about how Lola left a few of the others, and I, in quite a bit of pain after her super hard massages. I like a hard massage on certain areas of my body, but not on every inch of my body. There are certain areas of my body where I felt really uncomfortable with her massage. But if YOUR happy with her massage, I would say your not going to to get a harder one from any of the other girls. It sounds like you found your masseuse match.

BTW $5 is my usual tip


Bosco

I'm not sure. Looking at the pronunciations of the girls name you posted, it might be the girl that I posted about. Although, it still doesn't sound quite right.

Matiz, Martha is most excellent but is on vacation through the end of this month. Her absence has given me the opportunity to discover Bellia who is really something special. She delivers great massages at all speeds - very talented hands. I'd go so far as to say that of the girls who are currently working, she's the best masseuse I've personally encountered at Azteca among the many I've had service from. Elizabeth is another technically proficient masseuse. FWIW, both Bellia and Elizabeth are gorda but certainly otherwise pleasant in looks and manner.

Lola isn't nearly as pleasant as you found out (and she had you questioning yourself when your tip was entirely appropriate). She and a couple of others at Azteca seem to follow some protocols about being as frigid personality wise as they can be - particularly when receiving gratuities (Amanda really takes the prize on this one - she makes Lola seem like Julia Roberts on Oscar night).

A few weeks back, Lola even had the huevos to ridicule my broken Spanish to the other girls after I had tipped her extra generously. She had given a massage to my hometown amiga who accompanied me to TJ one day. I had the good fortune that afternoon to get my first massage from Bellia since neither Martha or any of my other favoritas were available. Anyhow, when we departed, I tipped each of the ladies higher than standard, and explained to Lola in bad but understandable enough Spanish that the tip I was handing her was for the massage she had given to my amiga...I sloppily used some language like [this is] "para mi amiga". As we departed, I clearly understood her Spanish when she told the others behind the reception desk in a clearly mocking tone..."the tip is not for me, it's for his amiga..ha ha ha ha ha!". It would have been cool and funny if she had said it to me in a joking manner or with an impish grin to point out my lack of precision. But the intention was to riducule. Only the relaxed glow that Bellia had just laid on me prevented me from turning around to embarass Lola by saying something like, "doing the best I can sweetheart...at least I'm making an effort!" I could probably of said that in language she can understand.

OK, to a much more pleasurable matter: I have an interesting report on an Azteca masseuse. Azteca posters can Email me for the details. SV, you need not bother since it's the same report I sent you earlier this week.

Btw, Jennifer (the young hottie SV posted about) works only Fri-Sun according to the receptionist.

Erip, the only experience I've had at Azteca was with Lola and she was very pleasant, even playful. While bathing me in the shower she was a lot of fun and she also displayed an excellent attitude while massaging me. Regarding her massage, I'd recommend telling her where you do and don't want her to go deep as she was very open to requests when she worked on me.

Thanks for the information, guys. Perhaps I'll try some of the other chicas mentioned just as a change of pace.

Celtics, many of us know about the effect you have on women!! But seriously, I am only talking about her general demeanor outside of a massage session...and I've observed her literally dozens of times as she's received tips and otherwise around Azteca. I guess if there is any possibility that I would ever patronize her or deliver my friends into her capable hands (as I have many times), I will arrange to have the propina delivered during the hand/body bath.

"Celtics, many of us know about the effect you have on women!!" Ha, I wish! I have learned about the effect greenbacks can have on women, however!

"But seriously, I am only talking about her general demeanor outside of a massage session.." Who cares about how she is outside of the massage session...she wouldn't be my first choice to take to lunch, that's for sure!

Seriously, Erip, thanks for the informative reports on Azteca.